Who's the Fastest Guitar Guy of All Time?
Patr...@onix.com
Who do you think is the fastest guitar player of all time. Forget
taste, forget scales, forget personality, forget genre. I'm talking
out and out speed here. As manyt notes in as little time as possible.
I'm throwing my vote in for Tony Macaplpine. Sure, he's a tad bit
gerenirc, but I think speedwise he's just a tad faster than Yngwie...
traye veillon
ehd
I agree. I've seen Buckethead and it wasn't pretty. We drove two hundred
miles to see him when he was with the Deli Creeps and opened for an
anonymous band at the I-beam in S.F. More importantly, he sets a new
standard for the creative use of Walt Disney theme music and slasher movie
aesthetic. The question is: is this really what the world needs now?
Ed
Patr...@onix.com wrote:
>Who do you think is the fastest guitar player of all time. Forget
>taste, forget scales, forget personality, forget genre. I'm talking
>out and out speed here. As manyt notes in as little time as possible.
>I'm throwing my vote in for Tony Macaplpine. Sure, he's a tad bit
>gerenirc, but I think speedwise he's just a tad faster than Yngwie...
Al DiMeola gets my vote. He's mind-numbingly fast. And cleaner than
a lot of your modern "shredders"
check out my homepage and guitar links at http://www.cajunnet.com/~epguidry
Mr Triscuits
Fast AND in control? Without a doubt the Steve's: Howe and Morse.
Steve Nielsen
On Thu, 05 Dec 1996 03:26:31 GMT, Patr...@onix.com wrote:
>Who do you think is the fastest guitar player of all time. Forget
>taste, forget scales, forget personality, forget genre. I'm talking
>out and out speed here. As manyt notes in as little time as possible.
>I'm throwing my vote in for Tony Macaplpine. Sure, he's a tad bit
>gerenirc, but I think speedwise he's just a tad faster than Yngwie...
Definitely Al Dimeola.
Steve Howe's pretty fast, too
and nobody answered me - where the hell is Steve Howe?
Jeffrey Potoff
> >taste, forget scales, forget personality, forget genre. I'm talking
> >out and out speed here. As manyt notes in as little time as possible.
> >I'm throwing my vote in for Tony Macaplpine. Sure, he's a tad bit
> >gerenirc, but I think speedwise he's just a tad faster than Yngwie...
>
I vote for Paul Gilbert. You just can't beat the drill solo !
Jeff
Kenneth Liberti
I would have to say that the fastest guitarist of all time would have to
be Al DiMeola.
Matt
I saw one mofo on a how to video named Michael Angelo. He's definitely one
of the fastest. That guy was fast and theatrical! Entertaining, but I
could only stand about 5 minutes of it.
He's good, but then again, sword swallowers are good, but I don't care
much...
I think people try to qualify musical ability with two main schools of
thought: feel and technique. I submit that the point when a tune goes past
the point of music into the spectrum of technical wizardry, the tune
becomes disinteresting. The threshhold is different for everyone, which
makes all this pandemonium about "soul" versus speed sometimes interesting,
but terribly, terribly moot.
Matt
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Graham Boyes
for my money steve vai
ReelMusic
> and nobody answered me - where the hell is Steve Howe?
>
Steve Howe is now back with Yes, and they just released a live/studio CD
called
'Keys to Ascention' thats very good....
ReelMusic
Mr Triscuits <step...@erols.com> wrote in article
<32A73A...@erols.com>...
> Fast AND in control? Without a doubt the Steve's: Howe and Morse.
>
Amen, my two favorite!
Visigoth
I'll go with Gilbert too. Check out the song "I Understand Completely"
on The Guitars That Rule The World Compilation. Ouch, my fingers hurt
just listining to it!!!
In actuality, there is a guy who holds the record in the Gueniss Book
Of World Records. I'd tell you, but I don't have a copy handy.
Mentally Yours,
V I S I G O T H
Mike
> > >gerenirc, but I think speedwise he's just a tad faster than Yngwie...
> REH video, the guy manages to make the guitar sounded like a chainsaw!
> And I'd also put Joe Stump up there along with Yngwie.
>
> Jock Teja
Not. Steve Vai it the fastest MoFo. Period
--
Later,
Mike
"I fart in your general direction."
George Kirk u
traye veillon (tr...@usa.net) wrote:
: In article <32a6404d...@207.44.0.14>, Patr...@onix.com says...
: >
: >Who do you think is the fastest guitar player of all time. Forget
: >taste, forget scales, forget personality, forget genre. I'm talking
: >out and out speed here. As manyt notes in as little time as possible.
: >gerenirc, but I think speedwise he's just a tad faster than Yngwie...
: I put my vote in for Buckethead.
Paul Gilbert without a doubt. I've heard and seen him play some stuff
that would have left Yngwie (one of my faves), Vinnie Moore, and Tony M.
in the dust. Scary stuff.
If you want out of the heavy metal realm, Al Di Meola.
George
tes...@infohouse.com
Mr Triscuits wrote:
>
> Fast AND in control? Without a doubt the Steve's: Howe and Morse.
I don't know...have you heard John McLaughlin?
Hector
Brad Bechtel
The fastest guitarist I've ever seen (regardless of speed, taste or
personal preference) was Shawn Lane at the Guitar Player 25th Anniversary
Concert in San Francisco.
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Jock Tejapaibul
> >gerenirc, but I think speedwise he's just a tad faster than Yngwie...
Jock Tejapaibul
GIULIO DAL BON
Mr Triscuits (step...@erols.com) wrote:
: Fast AND in control? Without a doubt the Steve's: Howe and Morse.
Remember: Vinnie Vincent hasn't sped up his tapes. So he's the fastest
guitar player alongside Shawn Lane
Mauricio Gobbi
Fastest: Frank Zappa - avareged about 4 albums/year released
Slowest: Eric Johnson - one album every 6 years
I am sure that this is probably accurate if what is being
considered is the ratio - number of notes played per time.
charlie sweeney
geeze, i thought this would be a really dumb thread, and you folks
come up with al and steve. think i'll go listen to both and get back
to you with an opinion in about 10 years. it's a tough job but
someone's gotta do it.
p.s. gotta listen to all those steve's-better make it 20 yrs.
p.p.s. great comment matt!
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My vote goes for "The Great Kat" --- her album "Beethoven on Speed"
includes a Guiness World Record attempt at "Flight of the Bumblebee",
sorry, but I don't know if it made the record book or not....
But I gotta admit --- it was pretty wicked. I think there were 256th
notes in there!
What's that, a hemi-demi-semi-quaver?
Later
be well
wolf
iwasa...@aol.com
Al Di Meola & Malmsteen are two that came to mind 1st for me. A guy that
can cook though is Jesse Cook. Great jazz, classical & flamenco guitarist.
Check him out if you havent already.
GIULIO DAL BON
Visigoth (visi...@netzone.com) wrote:
: Jeffrey Potoff wrote:
: >
: > >
: > > In article <32a6404d...@207.44.0.14>, Patr...@onix.com says...
: > > >
: > > >Who do you think is the fastest guitar player of all time. Forget
: > > >taste, forget scales, forget personality, forget genre. I'm talking
: > > >I'm throwing my vote in for Tony Macaplpine. Sure, he's a tad bit
: > > >gerenirc, but I think speedwise he's just a tad faster than Yngwie...
: > > I put my vote in for Buckethead.
: > I vote for Paul Gilbert. You just can't beat the drill solo !
: >
: > Jeff
: I'll go with Gilbert too. Check out the song "I Understand Completely"
: on The Guitars That Rule The World Compilation. Ouch, my fingers hurt
: just listining to it!!!
: In actuality, there is a guy who holds the record in the Gueniss Book
: Of World Records. I'd tell you, but I don't have a copy handy.
: Mentally Yours,
: V I S I G O T H
I disagree because in an old interview Paul Gilbert said that some guitar
parts in "I understand completely" were sped up artficially just for fun
expecially in the last part of the song.
K.C.
I would probably have to vote for Vinnie Vincent as one of the fastest.
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Carl Fiadino
..And the best part of that is, Zappa's 4 albums per year,
were "good" albums, as opposed the the 6 years in the making
lump of turd that Johnson put out.
Carl
jom...@aol.com
It's either Carl Lewis (Telecaster) or Jesse Owens (Epiphone Zephyr Deluxe
Regent).
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Jeffrey Potoff
GIULIO DAL BON wrote:
>
> I disagree because in an old interview Paul Gilbert said that some guitar
> parts in "I understand completely" were sped up artficially just for fun
> expecially in the last part of the song.
Sped up or not on record, I've heard some of this guy's live stuff and
it's FAST !
Jeff
George Kirk u
I haven't heard Stump's latest, but I own his two other albums, and
although he is very fast, he is nowhere as clean as Yngwie...then again,
the production on his albums isn't exactly the best either.
Listen to Paul Gilbert's track on "Guitars That Rule The World"...I
forget the name of it...when you hear the acoustic cadenza on it, you'll
realize how fast he really is, never mind that Mr. Big drill bullshit.
Bob Lynch
My vote goes to Allan Holdsworth, as always. If you can find a copy of
his album Road Games (not available on CD), check out the second solo he
takes on "Was There?" Scary...
adam cook
kirk...@mach1.wlu.ca (George Kirk u) wrote:
>I haven't heard Stump's latest, but I own his two other albums, and
>although he is very fast, he is nowhere as clean as Yngwie...then again,
>the production on his albums isn't exactly the best either.
I saw this guy and had him as a teacher for a week at Berklee last
summer. He's unbelievable. He can play off the metronome at any speed
possible, and is clean too. He doesn't even play his fastest on
record because it's so ridiculously fast it's uncomprehendable. Quite
simply, there's nobody faster.
Mauricio Gobbi
Good point Carl, but I didn't really want to get into the
inherent subjectiveness that goes along when you say that
this is better than that. I personaly think that Frank
Zappa is one of the greatest and overlooked -musicians- in
this century, and that Eric Johnson's albums are like Foreigner
meets John Tesh with a guesting guitar chops player. Now,
that Eric Johnson's album releaseing rate is about 1/20
of Frak Zappa's, that's a fact, and facts are facts.
mg
Jeff Preston
In a previous article, bly...@pfmc.net (Bob Lynch) says:
>My vote goes to Allan Holdsworth, as always. If you can find a copy of
>his album Road Games (not available on CD), check out the second solo he
>takes on "Was There?" Scary...
I don't think of Allan being all that fast, in context of
sheer speed -- I think I have heard several metal guys who
can "out-note" the man (if we were to "get regulation," and
break out the ol' radar gun). I do, however, believe that
no one can thread notes together the way Allan does -- not
at the speed Allan does it. What lines that guy lets loose
off the top of his head!
Jeff
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mmmm errrr
live holdsworth was debilatating, but also fripp (lark's tongues 3 intro)
wrecked me as well. maybe early vivian campbell? or mclaughlin, or vai,
definitely shawn lane, don't know 'bout gilbert
Mike Odom
Have you ever heard Al DiMeola on Race with the Devil on a Spanish Highway?
This was 1976 boys. Nobody is faster than that.
Mike
In article <32A893...@netzone.com>, visi...@netzone.com says...
Mike Odom
Remember that all of Eric's work becomes better with each
listening. Buy or rent a copy of the Hot Licks video of EJ
called "Total Electric Guitar" and then tell me you don't
think is is one of the greatest!
Mike
In article <58f649$s...@bcs3.bccom.com>, fia...@bccom.com says...
Ray Gjergja
There's no way that anybody can tell whether one guy is faster than the
other just by listening.Some solos appear faster than others even if they
are not,because they were played cleaner,because of different sound and
so on,even if you slow things down to half speed it's not that easy to
tell.
I have not heard Buckethead or Lane ,but Mike Scacchia from Ministry and
Rigormortis is ridiculously fast and obviously Yngwie would have to be
right up there
Ray Gjergja
>
>My vote goes for "The Great Kat" --- her album "Beethoven on Speed"
>includes a Guiness World Record attempt at "Flight of the Bumblebee",
>sorry, but I don't know if it made the record book or not....
>
>
>But I gotta admit --- it was pretty wicked. I think there were 256th
I don't care what notes were in there ,but that wasn't even all that fast,
I remember that album [ crap ].That was her whole thing SPEED and it
turned out that she really wasn't all that fast.
Ray Gjergja
Giulio,do you know something we don't . Speeding up one's tapes should be
considered a criminal activity, what creeps do this????
Doug
Trick question everyone.
The original post never made mention of which notes, just how fast.
Now we're only talking about sheer tremolo picking. (Even on a single
note) Many of us can probably tremolo pick as fast as these guys.
The biggie is, note phrasing, melody, and how clean? That's another
story.
Read on guitarists.........
Doug
Bob Lynch
This is true, but that solo is still mighty blazin' for a few seconds.
--Bob
Mauricio Gobbi
Mike Odom wrote:
>
> Remember that all of Eric's work becomes better with each
> listening. Buy or rent a copy of the Hot Licks video of EJ
> called "Total Electric Guitar" and then tell me you don't
> think is is one of the greatest!
>
> Mike
>
I bought it and sold it. It didn't teach me anything. He doesn't seem
to know music theory when he talk about chords, and, at one point he
says he uses the pentatonic for solos but sometimes he adds a
second and a sixth to the scale and in his words: "which
makes another scale that probably has a name but I am not sure...".
It turns out it's the major scale (or the doric mode if you're
in Am or the Lidian mode if you're in G or the Aeolian mode
-minor scale- if you're in E). Now, a guitar player who doesn't
know what the major scale is shoudn't be releasing instructional
videos, and calling them Total Electric Guitar. He spends most of the
time talking about obvious techniques like strumming, fingerstyle,
mutting, stuff that everyone should know not because one was tought,
but because these things are natural if you are a guitar player.
C'mon, if you don't know how to mute the strings you're not playing,
you don't play guitar, you make noise. The rest of the tape is a
show off on how he can play just like all the best players in
the world. Do you want some instructive instructional video?
Get the most advanced Robben Ford ones, Larry Carlton, Joe Diorio,
or, best of all, learn by yourself.
mg
Greg Jones
In article <32a6404d...@207.44.0.14>, Patr...@onix.com writes:
|> Who do you think is the fastest guitar player of all time. Forget
|> taste, forget scales, forget personality, forget genre. I'm talking
|> out and out speed here. As manyt notes in as little time as possible.
|> I'm throwing my vote in for Tony Macaplpine. Sure, he's a tad bit
|> gerenirc, but I think speedwise he's just a tad faster than Yngwie...
I don't like his playing but Paul Gilbert has to be listed among the
fastest guitar players. He did some amazing leads on the "Bump Ahead"
Mr. Big cd. Lousy songwriting and I didn't like his tone but the guy can
pick fast and cleanly!
Gary McGill
iwasa...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Al Di Meola & Malmsteen are two that came to mind 1st for me. A guy that
> can cook though is Jesse Cook. Great jazz, classical & flamenco guitarist.
> Check him out if you havent already.
Someone said it before, and repeat it for you all.
The fastest guitar player in the world is fellow named
Shawn Lane.
I don't care about it, I'm indifferent to it, it doesn't, as a pursuit
hold a candle to achieving harmonic tone colour, but for playing fast,
Shawn Lane's nervous system is such that it allows him to be the very
fastest guitar player in the world.
I know that some of you have your personal favourites and champions and
all that nonsense.
Here's a list of the slower guys than shawn lane, ok?
Impelliteri
Malmsteen
Gambale
Holdsworth
Morse
Johnson
Satch
Vai
Gilbert
Feldman
Blues Saraceno, or Darlene from Roseanne, take your pick...
Even my friend, Arthur Rhames.
blah
blah
blah
Does everyone understand this now?
Can we just put it to rest?
g.
(-.-)
\`/
Carl Fiadino
Do you want some instructive instructional video?
>Get the most advanced Robben Ford ones, Larry Carlton, Joe Diorio,
>or, best of all, learn by yourself.
>mg
..Or the Ray Gomez instr. tape. You can find it for $20.00
and it's worth it.
Carl
Joseph Grossman
Nobody you know, maybe.
I saw Stump opening for Yngvie at the Paradise in Boston 2-3 years ago.
Let's just say that both had good chops and could play real fast. Who
was faster?? Who really cares??
All I can say is that I didn't run out and buy either one's album.
-jg
David N. Barnett
jul...@vega.unive.it (GIULIO DAL BON) wrote:
>Mr Triscuits (step...@erols.com) wrote:
>: Fast AND in control? Without a doubt the Steve's: Howe and Morse.
>
>Remember: Vinnie Vincent hasn't sped up his tapes. So he's the fastest
>guitar player alongside Shawn Lane
I'd have to add Vinnie Moore to this list, although Shawn Lane would
have to get the nod for sheer gratuitous speed just for the sake of
it.
--dnb
Ray Gjergja
>Someone said it before, and repeat it for you all.
>The fastest guitar player in the world is fellow named
>Shawn Lane.
And how exactly have you come to this conclusion,Have you actually slowed
all these guy's fastest solos to 1/2 or 1/4 speed and counted how many
notes per second they played at the fastest point of the solo?????
Mark Weissman
RICHARD ALBANESE
>Subject: Re: Who's the Fastest Guitar Guy of All Time?
>Date: 10 Dec 1996 07:45:18 GMT
>>
>>My vote goes for "The Great Kat" --- her album "Beethoven on Speed"
>>includes a Guiness World Record attempt at "Flight of the Bumblebee",
>>sorry, but I don't know if it made the record book or not....
>>
>>
>I don't care what notes were in there ,but that wasn't even all that fast,
>I remember that album [ crap ].That was her whole thing SPEED and it
>turned out that she really wasn't all that fast.
wow, i thought i was the only sucker who bought into all the b.s. hype about
that Great Kat album. not only was it not that fast, but it was also
ridiculoulsy sloppy.
(aside: I bought the cd after reading a very descriptive
promotional ad from one of those cd clubs which made it out to seem like
the ultimate guitar album. after one listen to the cd, i was so pissed
about the ad that i quit the cd club)
For whatever it's worth, the fastest i've heard has gotta be Michael Angelo
(off some cheese-ball '80's glam album by Nytro). ...and i've heard most of
the players mentioned thus far--Yes, even Yngwie ;)
and please don't flame me about 'feeling', that wasn't the question i'm
responding to...and, no, i'm not saying he's my 'favorite' guitarist, either.
George Kirk u
adam cook (ac...@tiac.net) wrote:
: kirk...@mach1.wlu.ca (George Kirk u) wrote:
:
: I saw this guy and had him as a teacher for a week at Berklee last
: summer. He's unbelievable. He can play off the metronome at any speed
: possible, and is clean too. He doesn't even play his fastest on
: record because it's so ridiculously fast it's uncomprehendable. Quite
: simply, there's nobody faster.
Wow! That must have been something...actually, in the last few days I've
been really listening to his albums again, and he is pretty clean, it's
just the production isn't that great.
How did you like Berklee? I'm doing Modern Guitar Method by Bill
LEavitt....great book!
George
Gary McGill
Good call.
I'll explain it for you.
I can usually discern the notes to play them myself.
Shawn's undiscernability comes not from playing sloppy, but playing so fast, for so
long.
Gambale is almost that fast, but that economy picking thing of his is a parlour trick,
by comparison.
Shawn just muscles through the whole deal.
Sounds like you have your dander up about this, Ray, so I'll tell you again, that as an
issue, it doesn't concern me too much.
I heard everyone that I mentioned, and I'm sorry I didn't mention Jennifer Batten's very
superb two-handed flight of the bumble bee thing, but again, that's two hands. Shawn, to
his own admission, almost exudes an apologetic vibe about the whole thing. He "blames"
it on his nervous system.
This whole thing is like um, Barbara Streisand.
How, you may ask?
Well it's like this....
We all know she's won all the awards.
We all know that she's a superstar.
She directs.
She acts.
She sings.
She's a perfectionist.
She has literally beat everyone to death with her talent.
Enough already.
Go home, enjoy your 1/4 of a billion dollars, and let us enjoy another flavour.
Saturation.
To crystallize the whole thing, it's just saturation. We can't take any more of Barbara.
And likewise, We can't take any more of this speed demon over that speed demon, and
frankly, it's so insane, that it's perhaps boring. Phrasing, now, is where it's at...
Shawn Lane is ahead of us in this area too.
He is an accomplished pianist, and percussionist.
A real drummer, not just a guitar player playing drums.
With that margin of ability, you know something very special is up with this person.
-I'm not even a Shawn Lane fan.
...just objective.
That's enough out of me...
g.
Cruise16
Can't believe no one has mentioned Gary Moore......
With Thin Lizzy and solo, Gary can blaze when need be, stay in control,
and still throw all those awesome 'sounds' into his solos most of the
time.
IMHO, the best there is.
Visigoth
Guido The Sicilian Land Shark
Gary McGill <gmc...@multiboard.com> wrote:
iwasa...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Al Di Meola & Malmsteen are two that came to mind 1st for me. A guy that
> can cook though is Jesse Cook. Great jazz, classical & flamenco guitarist.
> Check him out if you havent already.
Someone said it before, and repeat it for you all.
The fastest guitar player in the world is fellow named
Shawn Lane.
I don't care about it, I'm indifferent to it, it doesn't, as a pursuit
Just curious, who gives a flying fuck?
BTW, if this guy is that fast, his girlfriend must have a battery recharger for
her vibrator.
Ciao
Guido
"they're vampires, psychos don't explode when sunlight hits
them, I don't care how crazy they are"
Ray Gjergja
>I'll explain it for you.
>I can usually discern the notes to play them myself.
>Shawn's undiscernability comes not from playing sloppy, but playing so
fast, for so
>long.
>Gambale is almost that fast, but that economy picking thing of his is a
parlour trick,
>by comparison.
>Shawn just muscles through the whole deal.
>Sounds like you have your dander up about this, Ray, so I'll tell you
again, that as an
>issue, it doesn't concern me too much.
Not really,I'm just curious.Usually if you can clearly discern notes the
guy is not playing that fast,but then again maybe your ears are in much
better shape than mine.The bottom line is that to lay claim to the title
of the fastest guy that somebody would have to be able to squeeze around
20 notes in a second or be able to play 16th notes at 300 beats per.sec.
I heard gambale and just briefly heard Lane on one of those instructional
tapes and they were both doing that one note per string thing and neither
one sounded even close to that.Obviously that was my perception as I
didn't really stop to measure anything.
Steven E Sklar
What a topic! Of course it's pointless, unless one actually measure all
the guitarists and counted notes...Anyone gonna try?
Silliness aside, I've seen quite a few speedsters, and I think that if
one went by notes played per unit of time, Stanley Jordan is the
"fastest" I've ever heard. Maybe a bit sloppy, and dropping the time,
but I haven't heard anyone play more note on a guitar in a single evening.
Kinda like piano: Jerry Lee Lewis could pound out more notes with his leg
and forearm than Art Tatum ever did, but so what?
Music is a virtue; speed is not. But for what it's worth, the fastest
CREATIVE guitaris I've ever heard is McLaughlin. He seems to have taken
"traditional" (one hand pluckin', one hand fretting) flatpicking about as
far as possible. Totally scary, and creative/expressive. There are
players that seem to use velocity to express what they need to get out
within a finite lifetime, and others that just like to hear themselves
spoo (see the Real Frank Zappa book for the lowdown on spoo...).
Players like McLaughlin and Holdsworth manage to say something while
executing their incredible technique, and to me, that's what counts. And
McLaughlin can play the most gorgeous slow, haunting stuff, and that can
be harder than constant tremelo picking. Like other things, it's the
meat, not the motion.
Don't forget, every time some folkie sits on the porch and strums
6-string chords in first position, that's Really Fast!
Is music a sport?
--
Steve "I can sing 3 notes at the same time" Sklar
Big Sky/University of Minnesota
email: skla...@gold.tc.umn.edu
Big Sky Home Page:http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/g616/skla0003/Big_Sky.html
Austin
In article <E24p0...@info.uucp>, kirk...@mach1.wlu.ca says...
>
>I haven't heard Stump's latest, but I own his two other albums, and
>although he is very fast, he is nowhere as clean as Yngwie...then again,
>the production on his albums isn't exactly the best either.
>
>forget the name of it...when you hear the acoustic cadenza on it, you'll
>realize how fast he really is, never mind that Mr. Big drill bullshit.
>
>Hey, Paul sped that acoustic part up too MAN!
Ray Gjergja
>What a topic! Of course it's pointless, unless one actually measure all
>the guitarists and counted notes...Anyone gonna try?
The original poster clearly stated that this was just about speed and
nothing else and as long as we all keep this in mind and do not take it
too seriously there's nothing wrong with this topic.It pretty much has
nothing to do with music,it's a purely physical aspect of guitar playing
that does interest some people [ like me ].
Sooyoung Han
Mike Odom
Go out and buy a copy of Al DiMeola's "Elegant Gypsy".
Listen to the song called "Race with the Devil on a
Spanish Highway". No one plays faster than that.
On the next song, "Mediterranean Sundance" Al plays
just as fast, on an acoustic guitar! Prove he doesn't
need to rely on cheep tricks(hammer-ons & pull-offs)
to achieve speed. Al picks every note. He won the
Guitar Player's reader poll for Best Guitarist in
1976 for his efforts on this album. Check it out.
Mike
In article <58s8v8$j...@taurus.bv.sgi.net>, guid...@sea001.seaww.com says...
J Orman
<<<Go out and buy a copy of Al DiMeola's "Elegant Gypsy".
Listen to the song called "Race with the Devil on a
Spanish Highway". No one plays faster than that.
On the next song, "Mediterranean Sundance" >>>
Yup, one of my favorite albums.... Al definitely burns. But consider
that, in his own inimitable way, Frank Zappa could really rip some unique
lines...
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Yes, unique is where I'd put my finger on the Zappa issue. Frank was
without a doubt one of the most musically literate rock guitarists ever,
and he had very weird taste; However you rate his technique, how many
rockers claim Webern as a musical influence? His taste was certainly
unorthodox, but at least he made it his business to know what he liked
very well. In terms of avante garde rhythms and scales, he was an
extremely passionate experimenter. Just try to count some of his meters.
Must have been murder on his sidemen.
Since the oddball 20th century classical music (some disagree with
calling it music; I have doubts myself sometimes) he was so facinated
with itself enjoyed only a small, if devoted audience, it seems logical
that he should have done the same.
Hector
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> <<<Go out and buy a copy of Al DiMeola's "Elegant Gypsy".
> Listen to the song called "Race with the Devil on a
> Spanish Highway". No one plays faster than that.
> On the next song, "Mediterranean Sundance" >>>
Al DiMeola is a fantastic guitar player...in fact...I like the fact he
plays MUSIC
and not just speed, BUT when it comes to pure SPEED...that guy that did
that version of 'Somewhere Over the Rainbow' is without question the
fastest I've ever
seen...I forgot his name though...
anyhow...his Scales are faster than my SWEEPS...it's almost too much...
He does have an instructional video out based purely on techique and
speed...
although speed and a clean technique are nice...nothing beats musical
talent.
I guess this message turned out pretty lame considering I can't remember
his name...oh well...please...someone help me...
kc3
Cullen
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Mike
"I fart in your general direction.";)
"When in doubt, whip it out!"
Leptonica
For speed alone, it's Michael Angelo (who plays the same "scale" for every
solo)
For the fastes tastefull licks, I think Shawn Lane is the fastest I've
heard.
poopy
In article <01bbe957$ecc54b40$3513...@ken.themall.net>, lo...@themall.net
says...
>
>
>
>
>> <<<Go out and buy a copy of Al DiMeola's "Elegant Gypsy".
>> Listen to the song called "Race with the Devil on a
>> Spanish Highway". No one plays faster than that.
>> On the next song, "Mediterranean Sundance" >>>
>
>Al DiMeola is a fantastic guitar player...in fact...I like the fact he
>plays MUSIC
>and not just speed, BUT when it comes to pure SPEED...that guy that did
>that version of 'Somewhere Over the Rainbow' is without question the
>fastest I've ever
>seen...I forgot his name though...
>
>anyhow...his Scales are faster than my SWEEPS...it's almost too much...
>
>He does have an instructional video out based purely on techique and
>speed...
>
>although speed and a clean technique are nice...nothing beats musical
>talent.
>
>I guess this message turned out pretty lame considering I can't remember
>his name...oh well...please...someone help me...
>
>
>kc3
***NoCarrier***
Yep i would have to say he is!......!!!!
Jeff
ReelMusic
>
> If you want out of the heavy metal realm, Al Di Meola.
Certainly Al...and I'll add Steve Morse and Allan Holdsworth....
shredgod
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> > If you want out of the heavy metal realm, Al Di Meola.
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> Certainly Al...and I'll add Steve Morse and Allan Holdsworth....
Jeff Preston
In a previous article, jcro...@taurus.oac.uci.edu (Jeremy Michael Crosbie) says:
>I think if one asks "who is the fastest guitarist of all time", playing clean
>also needs to be a parameter. For that, Al Di Meola takes the cake.
You seem to be saying "clean" equals "staccato," as the other
two guitarists mentioned (Morse and Holdsworth) are exceptionally
clean players.
Jeff
--
Jeremy Michael Crosbie
I think if one asks "who is the fastest guitarist of all time", playing clean
also needs to be a parameter. For that, Al Di Meola takes the cake.
In article <01bbed30$bd443e80$1f4ba5ce@default>,
Harald Kildal
The fastest player I have heard is Malmsteen, especially if you are talking
about picking speed. I don't like most of his songs though.
Vegard
Ian Knox
Check out Doc Watson ... His speed _AND_ clarity are truely superb!
But he probably doesn't play the kind of music you listen to ...
Ian Knox
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The only real answer to this question
is undoubtedly : " WHO CARES!!?"
"al919@yf...@ndgphoenix.com
In a previous article, jcro...@taurus.oac.uci.edu (Jeremy Michael Crosbie)
says:
>I think if one asks "who is the fastest guitarist of all time", playing clean
>also needs to be a parameter. For that, Al Di Meola takes the cake.
You seem to be saying "clean" equals "staccato," as the other
two guitarists mentioned (Morse and Holdsworth) are exceptionally
clean players.
Jeff
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Certainly Al...and I'll add Steve Morse and Allan Holdsworth....
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I think if one asks "who is the fastest guitarist of all time", playing clean
also needs to be a parameter. For that, Al Di Meola takes the cake.
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Yep i would have to say he is!......!!!!
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-> Certainly Al...and I'll add Steve Morse and Allan Holdsworth....
How about Bireli Lagrene? I have never heard anyone to rival
dimiola till bireli.
The Maestro.
Fulltone
My vote goes to the Road-Runner, although Speedy Gonzalez might give a run
for his money.
Jeff Preston
In a previous article, strat...@aol.com () says:
>Furthermore, why do so many people spend so much time bashing other
>people's music. If you don't like it, dont listen to it. This is a
>newsgroup for guitarists, not trash talkers.
Actually, this is a newsgroup for any idiot who can load an AOL
trial disk, no matter how badly we might wish it otherwise.
Jeff
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In article <59jjuu$a...@news.ysu.edu>, al...@yfn.ysu.edu (Jeff Preston)
writes:
>Actually, this is a newsgroup for any idiot who can load an AOL
>trial disk, no matter how badly we might wish it otherwise.
Dear Jeff:
I just want to clarify something. Did you notice my e-mail address before
you made this comment? Or were you making a more general statement?
Having already graduated from college, I no longer have the access to
DePaul University's computers. Perhaps if I still did, I wouldn't be
using AOL to do my posting.
I can understand the general sentiment against AOL. I too am sick of
reading shit posted in the newsgroups by fifteen-year-olds who are
probably sitting at their computers with their pants around their ankles.
You must also understand that there are plenty of intelligent people using
AOL... people who contribute intelligent material to the newsgroups; and
also people who really know their stuff.
I consider myself a very experienced guitar player (been playing 23
years), but I'm pretty much a rookie on the net. If the mass concensus is
that AOL is ruining the internet, I'd really like to hear about it. I
welcome comments from anybody that feels that my money would be better
spent with a different provider.
One final comment. If every self-proclaimed guitarist that posts on the
alt.guitar newsgroup would use the hours of time that they spend trashing
other people's hard work on better learning their own instrument, I think
that the quality of communication in the newsgroups would increase
exponentially. It's very disappointing spending an hour of online time to
download my newsgroups only to find twenty postings saying "Kenny G must
die." Kenny G doesn't even play guitar (as far as I know). Why is his
name even mentioned in alt.guitar?
Sorry to have posted such a long message. It's just very frustrating to
have such a great resource as Usenet ruined by people who feel it
necessary to contribute useless nonsense.
Pete
Graeme Nicholson
In article <E24p0...@info.uucp>, kirk...@mach1.wlu.ca (George Kirk u) wrote:
> Listen to Paul Gilbert's track on "Guitars That Rule The World"...I
> forget the name of it...when you hear the acoustic cadenza on it, you'll
> realize how fast he really is, never mind that Mr. Big drill bullshit.
Paul admitted that the acoustic part of that track was faked, I'm afraid.
Something to do with his "sense of humor," I dunno. Still a shit hot
track though.
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In article <19961215132...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, jor...@aol.com
(J Orman) wrote:
> Yup, one of my favorite albums.... Al definitely burns. But consider
> that, in his own inimitable way, Frank Zappa could really rip some unique
> lines...
Zappa was unnecessarily messy. I believe his main gift to the world was
inspiring and eventually presenting Steve Vai to the world. Apart from
that, you've got a back catalog stuffed with about 400* hours of
unlistenable nonsense. I like my unlistenable nonsense to have violence
and technique, and so there is Buckethead.
*This is a fictional number
Floyd Thursby
ChasH wrote:
>
> The only real answer to this question
> is undoubtedly : " WHO CARES!!?"
... beedily beedily beedily beedily beedily beedily beedily ...
--Floyd
D. St. Pierre
I have to give the nod to John McLaughlin. Listen to Birds of Fire and
see if you don't agree. Di Meola, McLaughlin and Paco DeLucia have done
a couple of acoustic album that everyone should have. It's true that
all three can burn up the fret board, but I have to give the award to
Mr. McLaughlin.
I must admit that a lot of players can play fast, but either they never
really show it on their albums, you have to experience them live; or
they are a complete unknown. One of the fastest guitar players I ever
seen was a crazed lunitic that used to walk around town with a guitar
playing burning leads constantly.
Darrel Strumer is an example of someone who can burn but rarely shows
it. Listen to his work with Jean Luc Ponty and then listen to his
Genesis stuff. You'd have a hard time tellin its the same guy.
Photobrd
So far, you all have picked very fast guitarists, but nobody has picked
the FASTEST one. And Stevie Ray Vaughan is it. If you do not believe me,
I encourage you to see one Vaughan's videos. Or one of the tributes. After
all, There is a reason for tributes dedicated to him. NOT to Vai. Not to
Al Di Meola. And no tributes to Zappa. Definately Vaughan exceeds all.
Trust me, I've heard him. He's a genius.
Jeff Preston
In a previous article, phot...@aol.com (Photobrd) says:
>So far, you all have picked very fast guitarists, but nobody has picked
>the FASTEST one. And Stevie Ray Vaughan is it.
[...]
>Trust me, I've heard him. He's a genius.
Trust me: you haven't heard many guitar players. Go study.
Jeff
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PHIPSI5150
Isn't this the Fastest thread?....Not the most overrated thread?...SRV
belongs in the most overrated thread.....I believe that tributes usually
come out after you're dead...like SRV, or been around for along time, and
influenced many people (like Kiss (for better or worse) or Deep Purple)
maybe that's why Vai doesn't have one.
I agree with the choice of DiMeola, however the fastest I have ever
actually seen was Frank Marino. Nothing fancy, kinda sloppy, but he
screamed.
Barry Hollander
Without a doubt, Carl Lewis. Word is he only knows about three chords,
but man, that guy can *motor*!
-B
Jehan Sappideen
Just for interests sake:
About a year ago in the british guitar mag total guitar, they had an
examination of the fastest passages recorded by Satriani and Malmsteen.
Satriani's fastest clocked in at 15.4 notes/second (hammered on), while
Malmsteen scored 16 notes per second (PICKED!!). But it dont necessarily
mean they're good?!!!
Bob Welsh
But Stevie Ray was not as peed demon. He was no faster than any of the
rest of those of his genre - greats all - including Clapton, Hendrix,
Guy and the others. But he was never a speed demon.
That being said I'd rather listen to SRV than most of the players who
ARE speed demons...
Gandalf 89
Either Vai or McLaughlin would be the fastest, though they are both
MUSICIANS, which is something to remember.
Roberto Suarez Soto
Well, I think Satch is MUCH better than Yngwie (though I Like Y. very
much too). Speed rules,
and rules a lot, but Yngwie becomes boring, and Satch has always
something interesting and different to
tell. IMHO, Yngwie is a great guitarist, but not so good musician.
Satch, Vai, and many others, are
as good musicians as guitar players. We must remember that a guitar is a
MUSICAL instrument, to play
music, not to practice sport.
Sorry for the off-topic, I know it's "The Fastest" ... but I'm a devote
Satrianic follower :-) ...
My vote for the fastest does go for Yngwie.
Roberto Suarez
robe...@redestb.es
Dr-J*
I'd have to say that from the old school one couldn't bypass John
McLaughlin or Pat Martino. Martino was such a sustained caffiene speed
kind of sound. McLaughlin was pretty fast on the RIGHT-hand.
Most of the bluesers hammer or pull-off to "speed" it seems.
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