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Installing tremolo bar on stratocaster

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emrlaw

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Mar 22, 2008, 10:01:11 PM3/22/08
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I've had a strat for about 2 years and I've never installed the whammy
bar on it. I thought I'd give it a try now, but I'm not sure how to
do it. I assume I just screw it in, but isn't there supposed to be a
small spring in the hole? I don't see one in mine. Any help would be
appreciated!

The Repair Guy

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Mar 22, 2008, 10:41:34 PM3/22/08
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emrlaw <emr...@att.net> wrote:

Just take one from a ballpoint pen or something similar.
All it does it put a little tension on the arm so it doesn't
slop so much.

The Repair Guy
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Squier

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Mar 22, 2008, 11:25:01 PM3/22/08
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> emrlaw <emr...@att.net> wrote:


if you have deluxe MIA strat (or similar) you just pop in the trem arm.
no spring needed.

if you have vintage style screw in trem then you really do not need
the little spring. the spring just adds some tension or stiffness
to the trem arm so it doesn't spin around and will (sort of) stay put
where you want it. You can use any little spring in there to do this.
I know people that use those little pickup mounting springs for this
or lots of people don't bother with the spring at all.

Sac Dave

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Mar 22, 2008, 11:29:09 PM3/22/08
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"emrlaw" <emr...@att.net> wrote in message
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It just pushes in or screws in When installed push down - pull up - retune
push down - pull up - retune push down - pull up - retune push down - pull
up - retune or get Locking tuners


Dauntless

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Mar 23, 2008, 12:37:37 AM3/23/08
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Use plumbers tape on the threads of the bar and it'll stay where you want
it.

--
Dauntless

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pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly
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Keith Adams

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Mar 23, 2008, 6:19:14 AM3/23/08
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Plumbers tape will work for a couple of minutes. The whammy bar will be
pushed forward and back as well as up and down. The forward and back will do
it in before long.

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Russell

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Mar 23, 2008, 6:23:21 AM3/23/08
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This is the best solution. I've been doing this on strats since the mid 60's
as soon as I found out how easy it is to strip the thread.
Do it from the first installation don't wait until the arm starts to flop
around

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Russell

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Mar 23, 2008, 7:09:34 AM3/23/08
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In the 60's wammy bars were a bit of a novility and you found that it was
used practicly ever 2nd note. These days it does not seem to be used as
frequently. Keep a roll of tape in the guitar case and use it when
necessary. The problem begins when the arm becomes loose and players give it
another turn or two eventually stripping the thead.

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Gary Amedee

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Mar 23, 2008, 8:38:40 AM3/23/08
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I cut the eraser off a pencil and put in a suitable sized slice and it works
great.


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Larry

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Mar 23, 2008, 11:15:51 AM3/23/08
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If it is a Mexi-Strat, then no. There is no spring. Only the American
standard has the spring, and it will not fit into a Mexi-Strat.

I think the most common anti-movement cure is to wrap the threads with a
healthy layer of plumbers white teflon tape. You'll have to remove and
replace it every now and then, but it gets the job done.

I've not found a spring that fits yet.

My self-made Gilmour Strat has the arm sawed off by about 2 " and the
reduction in weight inertia pretty much took that whole problem away.

And btw... If you haven't tried that, you should. There is definitely
something to it.

-Larry

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Nil

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Mar 23, 2008, 11:24:40 AM3/23/08
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On 23 Mar 2008, "Larry" <no...@none.com> wrote in alt.guitar:

> My self-made Gilmour Strat has the arm sawed off by about 2 " and
> the reduction in weight inertia pretty much took that whole
> problem away.

Did you reattach the plastic tip after you cut the arm down, or do you
just go without?

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The Repair Guy

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Mar 23, 2008, 5:41:39 PM3/23/08
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Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

>I let my bar loose enough to hang with gravity at 6 oclock.
>No player I know that uses a wam bar tightens theirs to
>one position.

I do. I use mine all the time, and I don't like having to
fumble around for it. Mine can be pushed out of the way,
but it stays where I put it.

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The Repair Guy

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Mar 23, 2008, 6:11:55 PM3/23/08
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Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

>Well on a Strat it's in the way of the knobs and switch.
>It's not a fumble for me to grab it when I need it then
>let it go and more of a pain to push it out of the way
>then pull it back when I need it. I know exactly where
>it is when it hangs so no guess work.

I'm probably just lazy. I played a Charvel for a while,
and it had a bar I couldn't tighten enough. It fell straight
down, and it seemed like I was forever reaching for the
damn thing. I don't play with it under my hand like Beck,
but right next to my hand. Usually I grab it with the third
finger & pinky for vibrato, more fingers for dive bombs...

Don Evans

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Mar 23, 2008, 6:03:12 PM3/23/08
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Meat Plow wrote:


> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:09:34 +1100, Russell wrote:
>
>> In the 60's wammy bars were a bit of a novility and you found that
>> it was used practicly ever 2nd note. These days it does not seem to
>> be used as frequently. Keep a roll of tape in the guitar case and
>> use it when necessary. The problem begins when the arm becomes loose
>> and players give it another turn or two eventually stripping the
>> thead.
>
>

> I let my bar loose enough to hang with gravity at 6 oclock. No player
> I know that uses a wam bar tightens theirs to one position.
>
>
>
>>
>>

>> "Keith Adams" <keith...@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:47e62f27$0$22842$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
>>> Plumbers tape will work for a couple of minutes. The whammy bar
>>> will be pushed forward and back as well as up and down. The forward
>>> and back will do it in before long.
>>>
>>> "emrlaw" <emr...@att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:132c84c2-ee26-47f6...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>> I've had a strat for about 2 years and I've never installed the
>>>> whammy bar on it. I thought I'd give it a try now, but I'm not
>>>> sure how to do it. I assume I just screw it in, but isn't there
>>>> supposed to be a small spring in the hole? I don't see one in
>>>> mine. Any help would be appreciated!

I do. I use the spring ... works really well. I can have it out of the way
and still not need to go "fishing" for it when I need it. I do use it a
lot, which might effect my opinion.

Don


RichL

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Mar 23, 2008, 6:14:21 PM3/23/08
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Meat Plow <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:09:34 +1100, Russell wrote:
>
>> In the 60's wammy bars were a bit of a novility and you found that
>> it was used practicly ever 2nd note. These days it does not seem to
>> be used as frequently. Keep a roll of tape in the guitar case and
>> use it when necessary. The problem begins when the arm becomes loose
>> and players give it another turn or two eventually stripping the
>> thead.
>
>
> I let my bar loose enough to hang with gravity at 6 oclock. No player
> I know that uses a wam bar tightens theirs to one position.

The whammy on my Kahler hangs at 6:00, loose, like yours. I could
tighten it more but I prefer it that way. On the other hand the one on
my Burns Brian May Red Special is held in place by friction so I can't
let that one hang. No choice. Same thing with the Bigsby on my Gretsch
Tennessean. So I'm used to having it both ways. I'd prefer it hanging
loosely, though.


nm...@wt.net

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Mar 24, 2008, 2:38:23 AM3/24/08
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On Mar 23, 3:41 pm, The Repair Guy <repairguy1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Me too, but I can make mine work either way.
Mine is not even threaded, or the stock bar for
that matter. The original threads are shot, and
I just made my own bar, and shim it with tape
or whatever. I can push it in tight, and it will stay
in place, or I can pull it out a tiny bit, and it will
drop down. I usually prefer it to stay in the general
area, vs dropping down. The act of having to bring
it back up takes time I'd rather not waste, and so
far, I don't use the "Vai" method of drawing the
bar back behind the bridge and bending it backwards.
I usually like it staying fairly parallel with the strings,
and not dropping. If I want it down, I can push it
out of the way.
I can't use a stock strat trem at all. It's useless to me.
I've never seen a single one that would stay in tune
worth a hoot the way I use one.
So if it's stock, I take the bar off.. :(
I've got to have something more modern.
At least a Floyd Rose, or whatever...

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