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Just Me

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Dec 20, 2009, 2:51:40 AM12/20/09
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Marko Amnell

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"Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnZGrbRdpJA&feature=related
>
>
> And don't you forget to conserve your GODDAMN WATER.
>
> Don't forget?

Heh, not bad you incorrigible deadhead...

And one Youtube music post deserves another. Here is the song
"Butterfly Mornings and Wildflower Afternoons" from the wonderful
and underappreciated movie "The Ballad of Cable Hogue"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYaItNsVlz0&feature=related

Just Me

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Dec 20, 2009, 6:07:05 AM12/20/09
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On Dec 20, 4:13 am, "Marko Amnell" <marko.amn...@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
> "Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> f79174db-6f0f-4a3f-ba55-fea443884...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnZGrbRdpJA&feature=related
>
> > And don't you forget to conserve your GODDAMN WATER.
>
> > Don't forget?
>
> Heh, not bad you incorrigible deadhead...
>
> And one Youtube music post deserves another. Here is the song
> "Butterfly Mornings and Wildflower Afternoons" from the wonderful
> and underappreciated movie "The Ballad of Cable Hogue"...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYaItNsVlz0&feature=related

You Scandinavian SOB, that was wonderful! How do you dig something
like that up?
--
JM

Marko Amnell

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Dec 20, 2009, 12:31:44 PM12/20/09
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I searched for it because, well, it's impossible to watch
Sam Peckinpah's film "The Ballad of Cable Hogue"
without being struck by that haunting song. The song
"Tomorrow is the Song I Sing", played during the
opening sequence of the movie, is also memorable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNqfKqYfRb0&feature=related

Mark

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Dec 20, 2009, 1:35:50 PM12/20/09
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Now finally I know what talentless
pieces of shit listen to.
--
Mark inventor/artist/pilot/guitarist/scientist/philosopher/
scratch golfer/cat wrangler and observer of the mundane.
And much much more including wealthy beyond anything you can imagine.

Marko Amnell

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Dec 20, 2009, 2:21:26 PM12/20/09
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"Mark" <blueri...@yahoo.com> kirjoitti
viestiss�:4b2e...@news.x-privat.org...

Ummm, let's see. Jerry Goldsmith composed the
score for the movie and he won four Emmies,
an Oscar and was nominated for 17 Oscars.
Let's hear how many prizes the anonymous "Mark",
Usenet poster and "wealthy beyond anything you can
imagine" has won. Heh.


Lord Valve

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Dec 20, 2009, 4:47:55 PM12/20/09
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Marko Amnell wrote:

Umm....

I'm reminded of the scene in "After the Fox" where an
Italian film critic - called in with several others of his
ilk, as expert witnesses - is dragged out of the courtroom,
raving about the director of some horrid piece of celluloid
excrement as "a primitive genius, an undiscovered treasure"
and whatnot. The other film critics, if I recall correctly, cast
many apologetic glances toward the officers of the court.

Please.

Some lame-ass tune (which is obviously a blatant ripoff of
"Wabash Cannonball") played for a gaggle of drug-addled
losers ain't all that excitin'. Follow it up with two C-grade
folk tunes and we're definitely on the downhill side of art,
as music goes. If it wasn't for that great set of tits, I'd
consider the whole schtick a complete waste of my time.

Lord Valve
Musician

Just Me

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:21:12 PM12/20/09
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On Dec 20, 3:47 pm, Lord Valve <detri...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> I'm reminded of the scene in "After the Fox" where an
> Italian film critic - called in with several others of his
> ilk, as expert witnesses - is dragged out of the courtroom,
> raving about the director of some horrid piece of celluloid
> excrement as "a primitive genius, an undiscovered treasure"
> and whatnot.  The other film critics, if I recall correctly, cast
> many apologetic glances toward the officers of the court.
>
> Please.
>
> Some lame-ass tune (which is obviously a blatant ripoff of
> "Wabash Cannonball") played for a gaggle of drug-addled
> losers ain't all that excitin'.  Follow it up with two C-grade
> folk tunes and we're definitely on the downhill side of art,
> as music goes.  If it wasn't for that great set of tits, I'd
> consider the whole schtick a complete waste of my time.
>
> Lord Valve
> Musician

How can you call yourself a "musician" and say a damn thing like that
about a Chuck Berry song? You should be arrested, tied up and forced
to smoke a brick of Panama Red before you are deemed rehabilitated and
no longer a threat to American culture.
--
JM

Marko Amnell

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:30:08 PM12/20/09
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"Lord Valve" <detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Well, you seem to be suggesting that Sam Peckinpah's
film is similar to "some horrid piece of celluloid excrement."
That would be a very unfair judgement. Peckinpah often
called "The Ballad of Cable Hogue" his favourite film and
said he identified personally with the main character. It's
interesting that Peckinpah was able to make a movie with
so little violence, basically a comedy. Many critics now
consider the film to be an underappreciated gem.

The duet scene with "Butterfly Mornings" is a bit cheesy,
but the song fits the characters, setting and mood of the
film perfectly. No one said it's great art, but the song has
humanity and a hummable tune.

Lord Valve

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:34:35 PM12/20/09
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Just Me wrote:

If that's "culture," you can keep it.

It's *obviously* a ripoff of "Wabash Cannonball." Maybe
you can't hear it. (I wouldn't be surprised.)

BTW - *fuck* Chuck Berry - he did time for carjacking,
and was busted for having cameras in the womens' bathroom
in one of his restaurants. Also convicted as a peeping tom.
A real piece of shit, he is.

Lord Valve
Culture Warrior


Lord Valve

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:38:06 PM12/20/09
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Marko Amnell wrote:

Excuse me?

I suggested no such thing. I'm suggesting that anyone
who thinks tripe like those three tunes is something
special is a tonedeaf clod. Sorry if I was unclear.

> That would be a very unfair judgement. Peckinpah often
> called "The Ballad of Cable Hogue" his favourite film and
> said he identified personally with the main character. It's
> interesting that Peckinpah was able to make a movie with
> so little violence, basically a comedy. Many critics now
> consider the film to be an underappreciated gem.

I've seen the film. I liked it. So what?

> The duet scene with "Butterfly Mornings" is a bit cheesy,
> but the song fits the characters, setting and mood of the
> film perfectly. No one said it's great art, but the song has
> humanity and a hummable tune.

It's crap.

Lord Valve
Musician


Mark

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:50:07 PM12/20/09
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On Dec 20, 1:35 pm, Mark <blueriver...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Now finally I know what talentless
> pieces of shit listen to.
> --
> Mark inventor/artist/pilot/guitarist/scientist/philosopher/
>          scratch golfer/cat wrangler and observer of the mundane.

> And much much more including wealthy beyond anything you can imagine.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Just Me

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Dec 20, 2009, 7:08:05 PM12/20/09
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"Obviously" a rip-off in the same way that this . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKmaq-v1OKM&feature=related

. . . is a "rip-off" of *Johnny B. Goode*?

Well, he been having Fun Fun Fun, till Daddio come to take his T-Bird
away. And we goin' to do that just like this . . .

Anyone but a complete musical illiterate knows there is no such thing
as a "rip-off" in music, especially not with a folk-based idiom like
Rock n' Roll. If it were otherwise, you could dig up a hundred songs
that were "ripped off" to put the Wabash Cannonball on the road. In
fact, it was adapted from an earlier song called "The Great Rock
Island Route". But if you try to compare Chuck Berry's "Promised Land"
to Acuff's damn near (or downright) waltz-time version of the Wabash
Cannonball . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ggvZJRx4G0

. . . in which there isn't so much as a hint of the 4/4 boogie that is
totally the base of Berry's song, well maybe you should try digging
some of that hay straw out your ears.

>
> BTW - *fuck* Chuck Berry - he did time for carjacking,
> and was busted for having cameras in the womens' bathroom
> in one of his restaurants.  Also convicted as a peeping tom.
> A real piece of shit, he is.

Hm. Sounds like he would have made great material, morally speaking,
as a running mate for William Jefferson Clinton.

But then like, since when did moral standards of any sort have the
least thing to do with Rock n' Roll? If you knew anything about music
you'd know that rock 'n roll's big mama, Jazz, and bad ol' papa, Blues
were both born in a whore house.

But you got to be born in a barn, with a hayseed stalk sticking out
your mouth to say . . .

> BTW - *fuck* Chuck Berry

There is no such thing as rock n' roll as we know it without Chuck
Berry. The Stones and Beatles and the Dead knew that, but you don't.
You don't know that. That's why you can't dig the Dead, you got no
roots of rock in your soul, and no kind of ear for tradition on your
head.

Chuck Berry was a fan of Country music, in fact he was often accused
by lovers of the Blues of being a country musician. The melody of
Wabash Cannonball may well have had some, at least, unconscious
influence in the composition of Promises Land, but what came out in
the end, was totally transformed into something hip and new--but you
don't know that.
--
JM
>
> Lord Valve
Culture Clod

Jim

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Dec 20, 2009, 7:32:27 PM12/20/09
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On Dec 20, 4:30 pm, "Marko Amnell" <marko.amn...@kolumbus.fi> wrote:

>
> Well, you seem to be suggesting that Sam Peckinpah's
> film is similar to "some horrid piece of celluloid excrement."
> That would be a very unfair judgement. Peckinpah often
> called "The Ballad of Cable Hogue" his favourite film and
> said he identified personally with the main character.

Forgive me, but I thought it was about a man who
wouldn't hand over the remote control to his wife.

Thomas Stevens

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Let's ask Mark!

Mark(ie) on Mark(ie):

Retired aka lazy, bored and too stupid to do shit anymore - "I've since
moved on to guitars, turbojets, alternative energy, and Victory
gardens."~sci.physics

Obese - "I have my own weight issues...5'3", 375 lbs."
~misc.news.internet.discuss

Troll/Forger - Admitted ~rec.aviation.piloting

Philosopher - "Most people live lives of quiet desperation."
~alt.support.depression.manic

BiPolar FukkNutzoid - "Its really less about how we got this way, and
more about who we're going to become." ~alt.support.depression.manic

Claims To Be Uber-Wealthy - "It's only $500,000 dollars..."
~misc.writing

Brilliance...In His Own Mind - "But what makes me a creative genius.."
~misc.writing

Founder of Art Academy - "Nor was it when I founded a school of the arts
in my name..." ~misc.writing

National Politician and Grand Entreprenuer - "convincing the chairman of
the bank and head of the
Georgia Republican party to fly to Washington, D.C. and within 3 days
bring me a Small Business Admin.check for 350 thousand dollars."
~misc.writing

Loved By Celebrities - "Mark Who Was Invited By Elvis To Graceland"
~signature several newsgroups

Cuntsman - "Some cute little brunette named Tammy steal her boyfriend's
car and credit cards and put me up on the 14th floor of the "Yachtsman"
for a week in Myrtle Beach, while spending thousands by day, and
smoking the sheets by night." ~misc.writing

Zoological Scientific Genius - You did know that in Junior high school I
memorized the Latin genus of all the snakes in North America? I was a
herpetologist by age 15...

Teenaged Painter - ...the same time I began to sell my cubist paintings.
~rec.aviation.piloting

One Person Anti-Terrorist Usenet Nutzo - "Look here boyo...if you or
anyone else puts a muslim propaganda post here, I'm gonna put 10 posts
against it. If you put ten, I'll put a hundred. If you put a hundred,
I'll put a thousand. So tell your sandnigger friends they're
responsible for the ANTI campaign that follows". ~misc.writing

Google Profile - "I am a Renaissance Man. I'm still attempting things
people think are impossible. I'm a dichotomy, a soft diamond, a
militaristic saint, and always a very wise fool...with a Giant penis."

Lord Valve

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Just Me wrote:

The Beach Boys *absolutely* stole their opening lick from "Johhny B. Goode,"

The crime is made all the more egregious by the fact
that that lick is the only one Chuck Berry knows. How
dare they heist upChuck's one-and-only riff? Plagiarism
*sucks* - but you go right on ahead and defend it, sweety.

> Well, he been having Fun Fun Fun, till Daddio come to take his T-Bird
> away. And we goin' to do that just like this . . .

Is that English, or are you attempting to communicate in Ebonics?

> Anyone but a complete musical illiterate knows there is no such thing
> as a "rip-off" in music, especially not with a folk-based idiom like
> Rock n' Roll.

Tell that to George Harrison re "My Sweet Lord." <oops>

> If it were otherwise, you could dig up a hundred songs
> that were "ripped off" to put the Wabash Cannonball on the road. In
> fact, it was adapted from an earlier song called "The Great Rock
> Island Route". But if you try to compare Chuck Berry's "Promised Land"
> to Acuff's damn near (or downright) waltz-time version of the Wabash
> Cannonball . . .

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ggvZJRx4G0
>
> . . . in which there isn't so much as a hint of the 4/4 boogie that is
> totally the base of Berry's song, well maybe you should try digging
> some of that hay straw out your ears.

Ahem.

The Acuff version is in straight four. In fact, I don't believe I
heard even a single triplet in the whole shebang. If you're
going to make absolutely ignorant statements like "damn
near (or downright) waltz-time" this rumble is gonna be over
before it gets far enough along to be interesting. And - FYI -
the definitive version of "Wabash Cannonball" has always
been considered to be Boxcar Willie's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pleovx3k894

Also, if I may be so bold, in straight four. WTF is
"damn near" waltz time? 2.73/4? 3.1416/4? You fucktard.

> > BTW - *fuck* Chuck Berry - he did time for carjacking,
> > and was busted for having cameras in the womens' bathroom
> > in one of his restaurants. Also convicted as a peeping tom.
> > A real piece of shit, he is.
>
> Hm. Sounds like he would have made great material, morally speaking,
> as a running mate for William Jefferson Clinton.

I'm sure he's being considered for a position with the Obama crime team/dog
and pony show, seein' as how they've never met a crook they didn't like.

> But then like, since when did moral standards of any sort have the
> least thing to do with Rock n' Roll?

Indeed. And it's plain yours are quite low. Perhaps nonexistent.

> If you knew anything about music
> you'd know that rock 'n roll's big mama, Jazz, and bad ol' papa, Blues
> were both born in a whore house.
>
> But you got to be born in a barn, with a hayseed stalk sticking out
> your mouth to say . . .
>
> > BTW - *fuck* Chuck Berry
>
> There is no such thing as rock n' roll as we know it without Chuck
> Berry.

More's the pity.

> The Stones and Beatles and the Dead knew that, but you don't.

Let's just say that I don't give a dead rat's ass one way or the other.

> You don't know that. That's why you can't dig the Dead, you got no
> roots of rock in your soul, and no kind of ear for tradition on your
> head.

Damn. I think I'm gonna cry....anyone got a Kleenex?

> Chuck Berry was a fan of Country music,

Chuck Berry was a fan of watching women take a shit through a hole in the
craphouse door:

http://www.roanoke.com/extra/wb/173117

He also did time on a Mann Act beef for pimping a 14-year old girl.
How very fitting that his only #1 hit was entitled "My Dingaling."

> in fact he was often accused

Indeed he was, and often found guilty, too. That's why he spent so much time
in the Greyrock Hotel..

> by lovers of the Blues of being a country musician. The melody of
> Wabash Cannonball may well have had some, at least, unconscious
> influence in the composition of Promises Land,

Ooops.

> but what came out in
> the end, was totally transformed into something hip and new--but you
> don't know that.

How fortunate a soul am I, to be educated (and at such small cost) by an
expert of your mettle. Domo arrigato, sensei.

I shall retire to lick my wounds, bruised and battered
by the force of your intellect and expertise. Perhaps
I shall seek solace in some inferior music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH10P42aaGY

Please note that this is a real-time recording, played
from beginning to end with no punch-ins, edits, double-
tracking and the like. There is only one musician
(Mr. Biggs) playing. Forgive me for pointing these
things out, but after all, you *did* seem to be slightly
confused about what constitutes a waltz.

You fucktard.

Lord Valve
Organist

JJTj

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Dec 21, 2009, 12:49:39 PM12/21/09
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>> Well, he been having Fun Fun Fun, till Daddio come to take his T-Bird
>> away. And we goin' to do that just like this . . .

That song always reminds me of a concert by Edgar Winter, and the
opening act did an obscene melody of Beach Boy SOngs:

"..little groupie, little tease. Calouses on both your knees.."

"..and she'll have fun fun fun till her daddy takes her vibrator away.."

The guy was great, I have no idea who he was, but the whole crowd
was in stitches. Even did the Zappa song "Brown shoes don't make it"
on ACOUSTIC guitar alone. Word for word, the whole song. AMAZING.

>Tell that to George Harrison re "My Sweet Lord." <oops>

hehehehehe. Great point.

>> > BTW - *fuck* Chuck Berry - he did time for carjacking,
>> > and was busted for having cameras in the womens' bathroom
>> > in one of his restaurants. Also convicted as a peeping tom.
>> > A real piece of shit, he is.

Didn't he offer to show up at any show, for $500, as long as they had
a band who knew the songs, a Dual Showman w/JBLs, and plane fare?

Boston Music hall, I'm a young kid, couldn't drive yet, but my mom
would drive us kids anywhere we needed. Brother James to NE Dragway,
me to concerts. She's a gem, would wait in the car. I got passes
for the show, lying that I was with RS mag, and she's in the parking
lot waiting for the show. Chuck is walking up to the car, knocks on
the window, and asks her where the b/stage door was. Mom tells him.

Show's over, I get back, mom mentions this guy with a guitar, overcoat
and very polite, did the above. I mention to her, I saw him enter the
door, that was Chuck Berry. "Oh I knew it was him" she said. "That's
the only reason I rolled down the window" We both laughed. A year or
so later, I run into him at another show in Revere, MA. and mentioned
the whole thing. HE recalled it at once, and said "ya mom is hot".

CB made more $$ of 2 riffs at best, but yeah, he was scum, had major
IRS problems, but he always put on a good show, every time.

>> But then like, since when did moral standards of any sort have the
>> least thing to do with Rock n' Roll?

Morals? Rock n Roll? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> > BTW - *fuck* Chuck Berry

Don't forget the hippies and that whole music scene..

>> There is no such thing as rock n' roll as we know it without Chuck
>> Berry.

You got to be kidding..

>> The Stones and Beatles and the Dead knew that, but you don't.

The Stones after "Live'r then you'll ever be" suck donkey, the Beatles
after Sgt Pepper blow, and the Dead sucked without drugs. Mind ya, ALL
are talented musicians, but that's all just my opinion... Flame away.

>Let's just say that I don't give a dead rat's ass one way or the other.

That's all my opinion is anyway <:)>

>> You don't know that. That's why you can't dig the Dead, you got no
>> roots of rock in your soul, and no kind of ear for tradition on your
>> head.

Ya right, sorry you sound like you have no clue at all.

JJTj


Well, my Baby's sick and I don't know what to do..
YES!, my Baby's sick and I don't know what to do..
She's got twist fever, and a double case of guitar blues.

Well, she twists on the highway, twisted in the swimming pool.
she twists on the highway, twisted in the swimming pool.
She twist's her breakfast..twist right off to school.

WELL, Twist on, Baby..twist me one time more..
YEASH!, Twist on, Baby..twist me one time more..
Well, she can twist in the air, and twist right down to the floor.

She got Twist Fever...
She got Twist Fiev.r...
She got Twist Feel...
..OH..!.. Feverl.......yeah..and...

She got Twist Fever...and I just can't leave her alone. OY!

Well, I took her to a doctor..goina find out what to do..
YESS!, took her to a doctor..goina find out what to do..
Well, the Doctor couldn't fix her..cause her Doctor is a Twister too.

..well..but...

She got Twist Fever...and I just can't leave her alone.

..ohh...ohhh.ohhh..what?

She got Twist Feel
oh, She got Twist Fever
yes, got Twist Fever
OH...Feel..
we got Twist Fever
And I just can't leave her alone...

Just Me

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Dec 21, 2009, 1:25:33 PM12/21/09
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On Dec 21, 10:32 am, Lord Valve <detri...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Just Me wrote:

> > > It's *obviously* a ripoff of "Wabash Cannonball."  Maybe
> > > you can't hear it.  (I wouldn't be surprised.)
>
> > "Obviously" a rip-off in the same way that this . . .
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKmaq-v1OKM&feature=related
>
> > . . . is a "rip-off" of *Johnny B. Goode*?
>
> The Beach Boys *absolutely* stole their opening lick from "Johhny B. Goode,"

Opening lick? If that's all you can hear being borrowed from Berry in
that song, you better go back to your fugue-ing Bach and stay there.

>
> The crime is made all the more egregious by the fact
> that that lick is the only one Chuck Berry knows.  How
> dare they heist upChuck's one-and-only riff?  Plagiarism
> *sucks* - but you go right on ahead and defend it, sweety.

Get off it with this "lick" schtick and go back to your harpsichord if
this is all you know about basic guitar boogie accompaniments, which
are not "licks" as such are most generally understood for lead
patterns. It's the entire underlying boogie rhythm pattern (rhythm
patterns are not "licks") being borrowed here by the Beach Boys from
Berry for this and many another of their songs. Berry got it from
Jimmy Reed, and John Lee Hooker, among others. Though Berry was the
first to totally rev it up and rock it.


> Ahem.
>
> The Acuff version is in straight four.

Typical to hear this from a rote-learned, classically trained organist
with a metronome implant for his sole sense of rhythm, and who thinks
there's something actually like, mathematically cut and dried about
meter. For him, there is. He knows no better--not from that chart that
must be ever before his face. For an improvisational player, it's
nothing of the kind. In C & W (Texas Swing esp.) you have all these
shadings of meter which have the wonderful capacity, by means of
syncopation to cross the metrical barrier between 4/4 and 3/4, thus to
create e.g. the "Shuffle". You can count a shuffle either way, 4/4 or
3/4 and if you can't hear that in Acuff's W.C., you better stay off
the C & W and Texas Swing bandstand, baby, cuz that's how I learned
the way to play a shuffle, on-stage at a damn VFW beer hall, as a 4/4
rocker subbing for a C & W leadman. Till that day, like you, I didn't
know a shuffle from a Chattanooga Shoe Shine. If you can't hear the
difference in meter between that Waltzing Mathilda of an Acuff
"Cannonball" and Berry's up-tempo totally 4/4 "Promised Land" I
suggest you turn in your ears at the scrap-yard so that they might be
recycled into the Japanese toy manufacturing industry -- circa 1956.

Silly wet-behind-the-ears Child, who don't so much as recognize
"Promised Land" for a Chuck Berry hit and some of the sweetest lyrics
ever penned in Rock n' Roll . . .

I left my home in Norfolk Virginia,
California on my mind.
Straddled that Greyhound, rode him past Raleigh,
On across Caroline.

Stopped in Charlotte and bypassed Rock Hill,
And we never was a minute late.
We was ninety miles out of Atlanta by sundown,
Rollin' 'cross the Georgia state.

We had motor trouble it turned into a struggle,
Half way 'cross Alabam,
And that 'hound broke down and left us all stranded
In downtown Birmingham.

Straight off, I bought me a through train ticket,
Ridin' cross Mississippi clean
And I was on that midnight flyer out of Birmingham
Smoking into New Orleans.

Somebody help me get out of Louisiana
Just help me get to Houston town.
There's people there who care a little 'bout me
And they won't let the poor boy down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aykoGVMdlSA
--
JM http://mackiemesser.zoomshare.com

Just Me

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On Dec 21, 11:49 am, JJTj <up yers.con> wrote:

>
> Ya right, sorry you sound like you have no clue at all.

For somebody born 9 months after the day yo' mama rolled down that car
window for Chuck Berry--you sho' ain't hip.
--
JM http://whosenose.blogspot.com
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com

Just Me

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Dec 21, 2009, 1:38:42 PM12/21/09
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Lord Valve

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Dec 21, 2009, 1:52:18 PM12/21/09
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Just Me branded himself irretrievably as a musical ignoramus :

> > Ahem.
> >
> > The Acuff version is in straight four.
>
> Typical to hear this from a rote-learned, classically trained organist
> with a metronome implant for his sole sense of rhythm, and who thinks
> there's something actually like, mathematically cut and dried about
> meter. For him, there is. He knows no better--not from that chart that
> must be ever before his face. For an improvisational player, it's
> nothing of the kind. In C & W (Texas Swing esp.) you have all these
> shadings of meter which have the wonderful capacity, by means of
> syncopation to cross the metrical barrier between 4/4 and 3/4, thus to
> create e.g. the "Shuffle". You can count a shuffle either way, 4/4 or
> 3/4 and if you can't hear that in Acuff's W.C., you better stay off
> the C & W and Texas Swing bandstand, baby, cuz that's how I learned
> the way to play a shuffle, on-stage at a damn VFW beer hall, as a 4/4
> rocker subbing for a C & W leadman. Till that day, like you, I didn't
> know a shuffle from a Chattanooga Shoe Shine. If you can't hear the
> difference in meter between that Waltzing Mathilda of an Acuff
> "Cannonball" and Berry's up-tempo totally 4/4 "Promised Land" I
> suggest you turn in your ears at the scrap-yard so that they might be
> recycled into the Japanese toy manufacturing industry -- circa 1956.

Goodness.

I think I'll let someone else respond to this. I mean,
fish in a barrel and all that.

> Silly wet-behind-the-ears Child, who don't so much as recognize
> "Promised Land" for a Chuck Berry hit and some of the sweetest lyrics
> ever penned in Rock n' Roll . . .

It's poo.

BTW - here's a link to me playing some "classical" organ
with the Derek Trucks Band back in 2005. Of course, I
was reading it off a sheet. (Not.) BTW - it isn't "nearly a waltz"
either. Had a lot of fun - never having played the tune before,
there are of course rough edges - but the 1100-strong Saturday
night crowd didn't seem to mind too much. Have a nice day.

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=23099

Click on "Feel So Bad" on the righthand side of the page;
it'll stream.

Just Me

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:25:50 PM12/21/09
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Due to the total lack of class evidenced by this poster (and others)
in their nasty subject editing habits, I am replying only to
alt.guitar, where apparently this manner of no class display is
perceived as laudatory and commonplace.

Surrender duly noted.
--
JM

Lord Valve

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:31:54 PM12/21/09
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Just Me wrote:

PwN3d.

LV

Mark

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:34:56 PM12/21/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:32:18 -0700, Lord Valve wrote:

> Chuck Berry was a fan of watching women take a shit through a hole in the
> craphouse door:
>
> http://www.roanoke.com/extra/wb/173117
>
> He also did time on a Mann Act beef for pimping a 14-year old girl.
> How very fitting that his only #1 hit was entitled "My Dingaling."

Still he was my hero.

Lord Valve

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:58:42 PM12/21/09
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> Just Me wrote:
>
> > Due to the total lack of class evidenced by this poster (and others)
> > in their nasty subject editing habits, I am replying only to
> > alt.guitar, where apparently this manner of no class display is
> > perceived as laudatory and commonplace.

BTW - didn't you start the thread below?

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"apparently this manner of no class display is
perceived as laudatory and commonplace."

Indeed.

JJTj

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Dec 21, 2009, 5:23:05 PM12/21/09
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>> Ya right, sorry you sound like you have no clue at all.
>
>For somebody born 9 months after the day yo' mama rolled down that car
>window for Chuck Berry--you sho' ain't hip.

Oh wow..that hurt..

The 1st sign of a person who lost..

..lame ass insults that have no effect on the subject..


JJTj

Just Me

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:45:44 PM12/21/09
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Stephen Cowell

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Dec 21, 2009, 7:07:53 PM12/21/09
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"JJTj" <up yers.con> wrote

> Didn't he offer to show up at any show, for $500, as long as they had
> a band who knew the songs, a Dual Showman w/JBLs, and plane fare?

Chuck Berry has never given a damn what amplifier
he played through. Never... not in the slightest.
__
Steve
.


Just Me

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Dec 21, 2009, 7:15:39 PM12/21/09
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I was blasted on half a quart of tequila. That's my excuse. What's
his?

Lord Valve

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Dec 21, 2009, 10:05:34 PM12/21/09
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Just Me wrote:

> I was blasted on half a quart of tequila. That's my excuse. What's
> his?
>

I see.

So, you not only don't know shit from apple butter when
it comes to music, you're a lush - and probably can't play
your way out of a wet paper bag. A drunk no-blower.
No wonder you can't tell a shuffle from straight four.
Shuffle off to Buffalo, Matilda - we're done here.

Lord Valve
Musician


Just Me

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Dec 21, 2009, 10:16:12 PM12/21/09
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Wrong_Note_Rod

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Dec 22, 2009, 10:41:40 AM12/22/09
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it sure seemed that way on the Hail Hail Rock and Roll movie.

BUT I coulda sworn at one time I read he did have some sort of amp
requirement in his contract riders. I cant remember what it was. Fender
Twin or "equivalent" or something like that.

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