BBE Sonic Maximizer - Pedal vs Rackmount
adam79
the sound a bit.. nothing amazing.. I noticed that they make rack mounted
version. Has anyone compared the two? Any comments?
Thanks,
-Adam
ada...@toast.net
The Chris
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The rack ones are more suited towards a bigger range of frequencies... You
do realize that a guitar signal is a very limited sonic range. The rack
ones - like the 422 etc, are for mastering and mixing full-range stereo
signals.... at line level.
What did you get?? The Stinger, or is there something actually called the
'sonic maximizer pedal' now?
Rufus
I set up a rack mount one in the effects loops of two Mesa Lonstars
rigged stereo for a friend of mine a few week ago and now he won't play
any other way...
I think where you'll notice the most out of either the pedal or the rack
unit is in the effects loop, and not into the front of the amp.
Personally, I prefer the rack mount - I have one in my studio for mix
down, and plan to buy a second for use with my own stereo amp rig.
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- Rufus
The Chris
Sure - that's the way to do it... It rocks in a loop... and seems to take the
pillow off your rig :)
Geetar Dave
>
> Sure - that's the way to do it... It rocks in a loop... and seems to take the
> pillow off your rig :)
Yep. But I'll issue this caution. Every BBE user goes through the same
process of (1.) discovering it, (2.) starting to use it, and then (3.)
using it all the time, until it becomes "normal" and the unprocessed
sound seems to lack detail.
Then one day, you go hear a band play where another guitarists is
using a BBE, and you hear how thin and brittle it sounds, and then
(4.) you quit cold turkey and never go back.
Seriously.
Can I get a witness? Former BBE users, represent. Go on, tell 'em.
-dave-----:::
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Dr. Zontar
> Then one day, you go hear a band play where another guitarists is
> using a BBE, and you hear how thin and brittle it sounds, and then
> (4.) you quit cold turkey and never go back.
>
> Seriously.
>
> Can I get a witness? Former BBE users, represent. Go on, tell 'em.
I can't say I've ever used one. But I've heard a lot of guys with
mondo-rack systems that included maximizers. They pretty much all
sounded fake and overprocessed to me. But it could've been due to too
much compression and EQ, I don't know.
But I believe you.
- Rich
Ron Choma, Sr.
I just purchased my second BBE Stinger stompbox. I have one on both my stage
pedalboards. I
leave them on all the time. It is exactly like taking a blanket off of your
amp. They correct and put
all those audio frequencies right where they need to be and, they add
sparkle to the overall sound.
BBE sonic maximizers in whatever form (stomp or rackmount, mono or stereo)
are stellar products.
I also have their DI-100X direct box for going straight to the PA. Excellent
tool. Cleans up the output
signals the same way.
You only have to play with it off, then on to know how well they work.
Hearing is believing.
Ron
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Rufus
...ain't got there yet, and doubt I will. I like to color my sound dark
for the most part, and I can't see it ever sounding "brittle" even with
a BBE over it.
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- Rufus
Rufus
I see them living in PA racks most consistently...but I also see some
players use them.
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- Rufus
underwood.de.vu
>
> Sure - that's the way to do it... It rocks in a loop... and seems to take the
> pillow off your rig :)
I have a Aphex Aural Exciter in my loop of the Peavy Rockmaster. This
is cool if you play at home with low volume. You get the same fat and
crisp sound as with a very loud amp.
adam79
>
> Sure - that's the way to do it... It rocks in a loop... and seems to take
> the
> pillow off your rig :)
are you talking about putting the pedal through the amp's fx loop or the
rack mount? or either or?
thanks,
-adam
Rufus
Gotta use the FX loop to really hear the benefit. And you can trim the
highs back if you think you need to - there's a knob for that, at least
there is on the rack mount, which is the one I favor.
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- Rufus
adam79
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> Gotta use the FX loop to really hear the benefit. And you can trim the
> highs back if you think you need to - there's a knob for that, at least
> there is on the rack mount, which is the one I favor.
>
which rack mount model are you talking about.. if i'm not mistaken there are
two rack mount models.. in the mean time, i'm gonna try putting my pedal
through the FX loop and see if it sounds better.
thanks,
-adam
Rufus
The 482i - this one:
http://www.bbesound.com/products/maxim/482i.asp
This one has 1/4" connectors and is more than adequate for guitar rigs,
home studio use, or in a PA rig. I like it because of that versatility,
and suspect people the think the BBE process eventually sounds "brittle"
aren't taking the time to use the Lo Contour and amount of Process
controls to something that is appropriate to the application - you can
certainly over-employ any processor, including this one.
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- Rufus
The Chris
The 422 is the classic... Unless your loop is cool with pedal levels... I
don't know if you'll be impressed..
Rufus
Yeah - got one of those, and a HUSH CX-II. Gotta hold onto that old gear.
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- Rufus
The Chris
> The Chris wrote:
>> "adam79" <ada...@toast.net> wrote in news:13okm0k3btsns96
I never dug the Hushs... always cut off too much for me...
Rufus
I use it sparingly, and only in my studio. Like everything, you gotta
play with it until you get what you want out of it.
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- Rufus
The Chris
I had the Hush IIc or cx - the pedal... I turned that knob all the way to
the left, and didn't like it then. I feel, if you need a noise suppressor,
you're doing something wrong... I play with SO much gain and distortion...
but, I'm quiet as can be if I cut my guitar volume...
I used the Boss NS-2 for a while - that I liked...
Rufus
I've never used one in my guitar rig, but for mix down from multi-track,
or dubbing vinyl to digital the IICX has some benefits. The trick is to
tune it so you don't know it's there. And you have to tune it to the
noise floor, not the content.
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- Rufus
TODD TAMANEND CLARK
> I just bought a BBE Sonic Maximizer pedal. It brightens
> noticed that they make rack mounted version. Has
> anyone compared the two? Any comments?
I've used the rack mount BBE Sonic Maximizer on my
huge synthesizer rig for eighteen years, but I've never
tried it on my guitars.
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