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better chorus pedals??? : Ibanez BC-9

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Chris Castellow

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Mar 13, 2001, 9:03:34 PM3/13/01
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can someone explain this pedal? is it two settings for each output,
therefore creating a variation for each stereo signal sent out, or is it two
settings for the same output, creating something similar sounding to placing
two chorus pedals in line with each other?

thanks,

chris

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> BC-9 is the right answer sista! you go girl! :) hmm... the Arion stereo
> chorus..that was my very first chorus pedal..the back of a rocking chair
did
> that plastic puppy in! Lemme know when you get tired of yours! :)
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> Kate Ebneter <ebn...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> > John Bankston wrote:
> > >
> > > What are some of the better chorus pedals?
> > >
> > > I know this question has been asked many times over. But since Google
> has
> > > taken over Deja News it's hard to do meaningful searches on past
msg.'s.
> > >
> > > From what little I've read, it seems a lot of people really like the
TC
> > > Electronics SCF pedal. It also seems that the only Boss pedals people
> like
> > > are actually the older models such as the CE-2. What are some other I
> > > should be aware of? Thanks.
> >
> > I've never understood why people rave about the TC and rant about the
> > new Bosses, since, IMHO, they both have the same problem -- too sterile.
> >
> > Anyway, some other alternatives: The old DOD 690 Chorus (stereo), the
> > Arion Stereo Chorus (I just got one of these, and yes, it is nice), the
> > Fulltone Choralflange. I'll also second the Analog Man Clone Chorus
> > recommendation. And the old Ibanez BC9 Bi-Mode Chorus...
> >
> > Kate Ebneter
> > Collector of Noise Toys
>
>


Tavo Vega

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Mar 12, 2001, 9:49:23 PM3/12/01
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email me and I'll give you the 411, I love mine.

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Chris Castellow

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Mar 16, 2001, 3:58:47 PM3/16/01
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thanks for the reply. very informative. like i said, i am keeping my eyes
peeled for one. hopefully i can find a reasonable one on ebay (yeah
right!).

thanks,

chris


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> SHEEZZ!!! I've been busy buying a new mesa amp! :) :) Forgive me for
> procrastinating...I with exhale the virus of crypticus choralus (bc-9)..
The
> ibanez BC-9 is a somewhat rare ibanez 9 series pedal and has a higher
price
> tag, like most of those sparkley versions. Realize I am speaking from a
> working musician/effects nutt/soldergun monkey standpoint and not
attempting
> to be Mr. Science here so.. :^}
> The BC-9 has two chorus modes, and while it has two output jacks it is
only
> stereo (the second output being out of phase with the first <i think 180
> degrees> or mono output)both circuit are coming through both inputs to put
> it more simply. It possesses Two Speed/rate pots and two width pots.
> Circuit "A" has double the speed/rate (moderately speedy that is) of
circuit
> "B".
> Both circuits function synchronously If either of the width knobs is turn
up
> to any degree. This being said, you can operate each chorus circuit
> independant of the other by turn down ones circuit's width knob to "0"
> (actually 7 o'clock) and the other engaged circuit to any desired
> width/depth. At lower width/depth settings it actual functions like more
of
> an effects mix control after its turn up a bit before the half-way mark
you
> can hear the sweeps depth increase dramatically.
> So the pedal is offering you two seperate chorus sounds in the same box as
> independent effects or synchronous.
>
> with both on at the same time the sounds can be very lush at low depth or
> totally wacked out warblewash if you desire.
> Now for the differences between circuit "A" and circuit "B".
> Circuit "A", just as a quick reference for those unfamiliar with Ibanez
toys
> sounds closest to an EH Small clone((IMO)) in its detuned and somewhat
> delayed chorus sounds. It also will go at a very quick speed in comparison
> to most analog chorus pedals,save EH toys. Again more along the lines of
the
> EH Small clone and polychorus, perhaps not so metallic in tone. It will
also
> easily comp the boss Digital dimension's eighties hairband tone perfect
with
> any overdrive/distrotion pedal. If you desire such Van Halen/Skidrow
> fantasies..... (("I dont feel dirty")) heheh
> I use the "A" circuit only for its Superb watery Vibrato tones. It is my
> best buddy for any kind of Fender Vibrotone SRV things and or Dave Gilmour
> doppola washes. wtih a delay and tubescreamer It kicks A, its the bomb,
its
> dope, its phat, its rad, its bitchen,its wack shite, it smokes,etc... you
> understand my fondess. :)
> Okay Circuit "B" is most closely related to the Boss CE-2 (think alex
> lifeson of rush, robert smith of the cure, prince(not too long there
though)
> any way. It is a more tame and jazzy sound with a slower rate but great
> depth. It is simply the
> Ibanez CS-9 chorus with a little more delay (kinda like Dan Huff and Steve
> Lukathers Tri-sonic-whatever chorus).
>
> This pedal is a bit more radical than most chorus pedals and offers a big
> palette of tones to play with. I use both a Bc-9
> chorus and a CS-9 on my pedal board next to eachother sorta w/ a TS-9
> between them and a Fulltone FD2 in front of all of them. The CS-9 for
subtle
> clean chording and arpegiating triads (mini inside chords if you will) and
> the BC-9 for my faking hammond b3 tones with overdrive and crazy bloody
> valentine/sonic youth warbles with fuzz and phase(PT9).
> One of my favorite bands is The Violet Burning and they are totally into
> layered textures of delay,trem, and chorus with feedback so this fits the
> bill for me. If I couldnt have this pedal I would have an EH small clone
(or
> clone-clone from mike) and a Boss CE-2 (i need another anyway cheap) side
by
> side.
>
> I have sold one of these (mint)for up to $240 (not on ebay dammit) to
> collectors, but have kept my beater of a BC9 (found it for $35) near to my
> heart....
> Should I tell you the secrets of the trim pots that lie beneath the skin
of
> the 9 series pedals and are awaiting tweakin
> 'g for absolute mayhem??? :) :)
>
> BTW,,, here's the Ten-ish series of the Bimode Chorus available on ebay
> currently. A whole friggin lot cheaper than a
> mint BC-9, and as well a few photos of other such tasty goodies:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1416440388
> http://www.sonicflux.com/pics/ibbc9.jpg Photo of the BC-9 Brad's site
> http://www.geocities.com/dr_daktari/images/Folder_9serie_02.jpg The
Ibanez
> CS-9 Chorus..Dr.D's site
> http://www.geocities.com/dr_daktari/images/Ibanez_fam1.jpg another photo
of
> sexy 9 series lovers.. Dr. D's site
>
> Tom Heetjes needs to post his URL for the Ibanez toys he possesses, He has
> the disease but hides it with discretion. :)
> I care not what others think of my drooling behaviors. :) well..maybe I do
> just a little.. :) Be nice..


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> Chris Castellow <KAMI...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message

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> > well, this guy hasn't even emailed me about the pedal. surely someone
> > (ahem. . . Kate?) could describe how this pedal functions. so if
you've
> > ignored this post so far and have something to say, then please speak up
> > because i am very curious about this pedal.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > chris
> >
> > "tom heertjes" <to...@chello.nl> wrote in message
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> > > Goaty76 :
> > > >
> > > > why not post your answer so that we can all learn from it?
> > >
> > > The BC9 has some secret settings ,that sound extraterestial,no-one
> > > but a happy few is supposed to know about this.
> > > The wired turtle risks being expelled from the BC9 club ;-)with
> > > his info,naturally if its only to get more BC9 members that another
> > > thing..
> > >
> > > Tom.
> >
> >
>
>


Tavo Vega

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Mar 15, 2001, 12:41:45 PM3/15/01
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I found TOM's site again!!! You must go there and wORSHIP the beauty. I use
the small w in worship for fear of idolatry. :)
http://members.chello.nl/~t.heertjes/index.html Thanks Tom!!!
TV

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Tavo Vega

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Mar 15, 2001, 8:46:25 PM3/15/01
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did you get the ebay link for the bimode chorus??? some one has one for
cheap but its the BCL or something, basicaly a ten series version of the
BC-9.. fyi

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Chris Castellow

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Mar 17, 2001, 12:29:34 AM3/17/01
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yeah, i saw it, but i can't say that i am a big fan of the "L" or 10 series
ibanez pedals. i figure that "good things come to those who wait." i'll
see what i can find. . .

thanks,

chris

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Tavo Vega

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Mar 16, 2001, 3:55:05 AM3/16/01
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You have it right!!

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Chris Castellow

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Mar 15, 2001, 8:54:25 AM3/15/01
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well, this guy hasn't even emailed me about the pedal. surely someone
(ahem. . . Kate?) could describe how this pedal functions. so if you've
ignored this post so far and have something to say, then please speak up
because i am very curious about this pedal.

thanks

chris

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> Goaty76 :
> >

> > why not post your answer so that we can all learn from it?
>

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