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TheChris

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:52:08 AM11/19/09
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I remember in the not too distant past...We were talking about delay
units (pedal or rack) that featured 'trailing delays'... Which means,
when you turn OFF the unit, the delays fade out, as opposed to just
stopping.

I know that some of the newer Boss pedals do it (DD-7??) but, am
surprised that 1000 other things DON'T do it.

Even when I was 15 years old, I rigged my Memory Man with an A/B pedal
and a Y-Cable to get it to trail off... Why isn't this more common?

End of diatribe... Anybody have any leads.... (that don't trail off.. :)

Thanks.

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WB

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:40:28 AM11/19/09
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TheChris wrote:
> End of diatribe... Anybody have any leads.... (that don't trail off.. :)
>
>
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Likely they stopped adding capacitors that slowly decayed
the power off cycle ... saves $ .01 per unit.

Geetar Dave

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:25:07 AM11/19/09
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I'm a long time user of the DD-5. I realize it's old, and that its
converters aren't that great.

So I bought two DD-7's a year and a half ago, when they first came
out. I thought they sounded great in the demo videos. I tracked down a
Roland/Boss representative to find out if they had 24-bit processors
(they do). This was when DD-5's were going for almost $200 on Ebay,
and I had 5 of them. I use three on my main pedalboard, and was
looking to replace them with better converters ASAP (and make a few
bucks on those "vintage" DD-5's in the process).

As for the DD-7 delay trails. Oh, sweet baby Jesus, they broke my
heart. The DD-5 and DD-6 trail off naturally. On the DD-7 it sounds
like there's an invisible soundman pulling down the fader too fast as
they are trailing off. I couldn't believe it. I used them once, and
sold them as fast as I could. Luckily, I had only sold one of my
DD-5's.

So, if you want good delay trails, I would steer clear of the DD-7.
Maybe a mod will come out later for it. But as of it's initial
release? Booooo.

-dave-----:::
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TheChris

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:05:57 PM11/19/09
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LULU <lulupa...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:ef9d1c38-319c-4447-a390-
aa5766...@z3g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

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>
> On Nov 19, 6:52�am, TheChris <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I remember in the not too distant past...We were talking about delay
>> units (pedal or rack) that featured 'trailing delays'... Which means,
>> when you turn OFF the unit, the delays fade out, as opposed to just
>> stopping.
>>
>> I know that some of the newer Boss pedals do it (DD-7??) but, am
>> surprised that 1000 other things DON'T do it.
>>
>> Even when I was 15 years old, I rigged my Memory Man with an A/B
pedal
>> and a Y-Cable to get it to trail off... Why isn't this more common?
>>
>> End of diatribe... Anybody have any leads.... (that don't trail off..
:)
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher Bellhttp://www.myspacecom/bellboudreaux
>
>

> Chris . . .
>
> . . . here's an interesting workaround for signal cutout using a
> Boston delay pedal. It's supposed to work on any delay pedal. The
> trailing effect can be switched off or on. I don't know if this guy's
> still on YouTube or not. This was posted back in January.
>
> Good Luck,
> Lulu : )
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywQyAizbtOQ
>
>

I did see this yesterday..... I couldn't get past the Japanese... and
the alligator clips :)

TheChris

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:10:03 PM11/19/09
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Geetar Dave <e...@one.net> wrote in news:d2c349ce-edf1-433f-a95a-
686fb9...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

I think I'll look for a DD-5.... But, I'm surprised there aren't more
rack units that do it..

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Les Cargill

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:22:46 PM11/19/09
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??? Just make the "engage" switch an SPST that stops
sending (read: shorts) to the unit's input when it's
"off". Cost $0.00 per unit....

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The Interceptor

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:46:12 AM11/20/09
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"TheChris" <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CC85A3...@188.40.43.213...

>I remember in the not too distant past...We were talking about delay
> units (pedal or rack) that featured 'trailing delays'... Which means,
> when you turn OFF the unit, the delays fade out, as opposed to just
> stopping.
>
> I know that some of the newer Boss pedals do it (DD-7??) but, am
> surprised that 1000 other things DON'T do it.
>
> Even when I was 15 years old, I rigged my Memory Man with an A/B pedal
> and a Y-Cable to get it to trail off... Why isn't this more common?
>
> End of diatribe... Anybody have any leads.... (that don't trail off.. :)
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Christopher Bell
> http://www.myspacecom/bellboudreaux

My Digitech Digidelay will finish the last bit of "repeating" after you
switch it off. Is that what you mean?

Brett


TheChris

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:48:54 AM11/20/09
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"The Interceptor" <this...@willnotwork.com> wrote in news:4oCdnYH-
R6QbHJvWnZ2d...@westnet.com.au:

Yes.... I think I've read about that one...

Thanks.

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Geetar Dave

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Nov 20, 2009, 11:54:31 AM11/20/09
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On Nov 20, 6:46 am, "The Interceptor" <thisem...@willnotwork.com>
wrote:

>
> My Digitech Digidelay will finish the last bit of "repeating" after you
> switch it off.  Is that what you mean?
>

The tap-tempo on that is like the Boss DD-6, IIRC. You have to hold it
down to put it into tap mode, then tap, then hold it down to get out
of tap mode. Correct me if I'm wrong. I have looked at MANY delay
units, and sometimes I get them confused.

That functionality is why I couldn't wait to get rid of my DD-6, and
replaced it with a second DD-5.

I use delays a lot, and the ability to tap tempo, without monkeying
around too much, is important to me. The advantage of the DD-5 is that
it "listens" to the tap tempo even when the delay is turned off. So
every time I turn one on, it is in perfect sync with the song tempo
(as long as I have been tapping my foot in time, that is).

But if you're not doing a lot of syncopated delay echoes, the DD-6 or
the DigiDelay are great.

There is a Chinese company called NuX ("New Ex"). I think they are
also called Cherub. Anyway, they make a bunch of pedals that look
really good, including a digital delay called the MD6, I think. You
can see them on Ebay. I don't know anything about them other than that
the delay looked pretty cool. But I haven't been brave enough to pay
for one to try it out.

-dave-----:::
www.myspace.com/geetardave

TheChris

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:08:49 PM11/20/09
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Geetar Dave <e...@one.net> wrote in news:8a788e80-4cc0-43a4-8749-
56515e...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com:

IMO, my POD did the BEST tap tempo... Just as you described... And the
wah was to die for :)

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Geetar Dave

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:29:33 PM11/20/09
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On Nov 20, 12:08 pm, TheChris <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> IMO, my POD did the BEST tap tempo... Just as you described... And the
> wah was to die for :)
>

I only use my POD for studio work, and then only when I need to be
quiet. So I have never tried to use it live. But yeah, the delay IS
good. The Line 6 DL-4 is of course quite good (though it doesn't
"listen" to the tap when it's turned off).

Alas, If Line 6 would take advice from me, they would make a "DL-5"
that would:
(1.) let you use any/all your patches simultaneously.
(2.) have a global tap-tempo (tap it, and it stays at that tempo for
every patch until you change tempo).
(3.) tap "listens" when unit is bypassed.

There are a couple of other features I could include, but I would be
ecstatic about JUST this.

-dave-----:::
www.myspace.com/geetardave

underwood

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Nov 21, 2009, 3:27:20 AM11/21/09
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Hello,

take a look at the eventide time factor. It could be setup for
trailing delays.

A good reverb with trail option is the line 6 verbzilla. Has a simple
delay too!

greets
Jürgen
underwoodblog.blogspot.com

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