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Ben Kaatz

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Nov 23, 2002, 4:02:30 PM11/23/02
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Greetings,

I've never had any effects, just bought boss gt-6, and have never posted
anything to a newsgroup. Questions:

Is there an esay way to find out how your favorite artist creates the
guitar sound on your favorite song? Example: Jerry Garcia on the song
Estimated Prophet, of Eric Clapton on Badge? Is there a website. Are
there books? If you don't know what effects can make what sounds...is
there a good place to start?

Is there an easy way to search this newsgroup for gt-6 info, or do you
just have to look thru all of the SUBJECT lines on all of the postings.

All advise, and your patience with the newbie, is appreciated.

BK

Andy Hoe

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Nov 23, 2002, 7:45:27 PM11/23/02
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"Ben Kaatz" <kaa...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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Don't know about the stuff you mentioned first, but to find info from this
group on the gt-6, go to http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en
and enter what you want to search for (e.g. gt-6) and what group you want to
search in (e.g. alt.guitar.effects)
Andy


geetar67

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Nov 24, 2002, 1:49:01 AM11/24/02
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Man, if there were an 'easy' way to find out how your favorite artist got
his sound... Ben, basically, even if you completely replicated the setup he
used, found out the exact settings for everything, it still might not sound
like it. First get familiar with the sound of effects yourself and then use
your ears. There are ways to find out about setups and settings, like Andy
said about searching on Google Groups. I usually search alt.guitar.* and
rec.music.makers.*

Well, here's a quick and dirty attempt to describe some common effects. The
topic could fill a book or two or twenty, so don't take it as the end-all.
These are very general, and as you've never used effects before I won't
explain electronically what's happening since you mostly want to know how it
sounds.

CHORUS: emulates more than one guitar playing the same part, by simulating
the small differences in tuning, timing and intonation that would naturally
occur if there were actually more than one. Usually used for a fuller,
thicker, or shimmery sound. Play with the rate and depth adjustments to see
what they change.

DELAY: generates an echo. You can adjust how quickly or slowly, and how many
repeats. Some allow you to adjust whether the echoes degrade more and more
over time.

FLANGER: can sound like chorus, but at some settings sounds more watery or
swirly, at others like a jet whoosh. The drums on "Kashmir" by Zeppelin are
flanged, you can hear it most on the cymbal hits and drum rolls. Keep in
mind that's just one setting too. Play again with rate and depth.

PHASER: also works somewhat like chorus and flanger, but more like a
"wow-wow-wow" than swirly or whooshy. Again, rate and depth.

COMPRESSOR: this is often more subtle than the others. Basically, it takes
the loudest part of your guitar signal (usually the note attack) and the
quietest (usually the tailing end of a decaying note) and makes the
difference in loudness between the two smaller. It will make your sound a
bit less aggressive, since the initial attack is brought down some, but you
also get more sustain, as the decaying note stays louder longer. It can a;sp
even out playing that is too inconsistent in volume from one note to the
next, for example, but it's no miracle cure. It's often used in front of
distortion, but it on a clean sound it can add some fatness.

These are just some basics to start with. Why don't you just try turning
only one of them on at a time to hear what they really do? After your ear
gets used to their characteristic sounds, you'll recognize them more and
more on your favorite records.

Hope this helps,
Arch

kaa...@pacbell.net

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Nov 24, 2002, 2:45:11 AM11/24/02
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Thank you so much for the info. I have been reading posts on this
newsgroup, and experimenting with the gt-6 for hours and I think I'm
getting the hang of it. I'm very curious about people sharing patches
and uploading and downloading them to the GT-6. I'll have to find out
more about that.

I saw one post that laid out a patch for a specific songs and was
wondering if that kind of sharing was common. Haven't found anymore
yet. You help is greatly appreciated. Good night.

John Stax

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Nov 24, 2002, 3:58:10 PM11/24/02
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try http://groups.google.com

they have user groups for all kinds of stuff.. amps/effects etc.. in effects
groups users share their patches and maybe someone might have a patch you
like.

just do a search on gt-6 and you may find some user groups..


Ed

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Nov 24, 2002, 7:23:35 PM11/24/02
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Try this site Ben, it has a list of artists and what effects setup they use.
You can use the info to choose the effects to prog on the GT-6.

http://www.guitargeek.com/toprigs.php

Also these GT-6 sites are worth visiting.

http://www.warlocksworld.net/gt6/

http://www.bossgtcentral.com/

And join the yahoo gt6 group at...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GT-6/

Download GTmanager there's a link on warlocks site.

Ed.


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kaa...@pacbell.net

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Nov 25, 2002, 12:04:08 AM11/25/02
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Thanks for the info ED. Things with the new unit are really rolling
along now.

Does anyone know if you can run a music source throught the GT-6 and
play along with song? I miss this feature offered by the Korg
product. Might have to keep my PX-4.

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 00:23:35 -0000, "Ed" <edhu...@nopentlworld.com>
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