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KB

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Nov 28, 2009, 5:55:25 AM11/28/09
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Can you plug a V-amp 2 directly into a 1 x 12 cab?

TheChris

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Nov 28, 2009, 6:14:33 PM11/28/09
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"KB" <n...@spam.com> wrote in news:4b110183$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au:

> Can you plug a V-amp 2 directly into a 1 x 12 cab?
>
>

It's not powered... All of these items put out line level (-10)

You'd need a power amp to use it with a cab.

hwan...@gmail.com

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Dec 10, 2009, 12:18:21 AM12/10/09
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On 11월29일, 오전8시14분, TheChris <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
> "KB" <n...@spam.com> wrote innews:4b110183$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au:

>
> > Can you plug a V-amp 2 directly into a 1 x 12 cab?
>
> It's not powered... All of these items put out line level (-10)
>
> You'd need a power amp to use it with a cab.

V-AMP2 Sucks...

KB

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Dec 13, 2009, 3:19:44 AM12/13/09
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> V-AMP2 Sucks...

Your opinion and thanks for that, but I quite like mine.....
But I was not asking for opinions on V-amp 2 just if I could plug it into a
1x12 cab....
So really your post is irrelevant and a complete waste of your time....

underwood

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Dec 14, 2009, 7:35:20 AM12/14/09
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As TheChris writes, the V-Amp 2 is a modelling preamp and needs a
power amp or amp with power-amp input to work with cabs.

I've played a friends V-Amp Pro and except for the latency time it
isn't that bad for the money. But I've to say that I've played it with
a modified Marshall MR9200 (2x 35W Class A Power Amp) thru 4 single
1x12" Cabs (Marshall 1912) with a Gibson Les Paul.

greets
Jürgen

TheChris

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:36:56 PM12/14/09
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underwood <underwo...@googlemail.com> wrote in news:5c7e49ca-0771-
4b2e-9e6f-9...@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

> As TheChris writes, the V-Amp 2 is a modelling preamp and needs a
> power amp or amp with power-amp input to work with cabs.
>
> I've played a friends V-Amp Pro and except for the latency time it
> isn't that bad for the money. But I've to say that I've played it with
> a modified Marshall MR9200 (2x 35W Class A Power Amp) thru 4 single
> 1x12" Cabs (Marshall 1912) with a Gibson Les Paul.
>
> greets

> J�rgen

What do you mean by 'latency time'?? Does it glitch between patches? I
had a Bass V-Amp Pro (that I really liked) and I don't remember that.
But, I didn't change patches that much live - I used it for Acoustic
shows.

underwood

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Dec 15, 2009, 4:31:46 AM12/15/09
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On Dec 15, 3:36 am, TheChris <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
> underwood <underwood.de...@googlemail.com> wrote in news:5c7e49ca-0771-
> 4b2e-9e6f-981b9caf3...@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

>
> > As TheChris writes, the V-Amp 2 is a modelling preamp and needs a
> > power amp or amp with power-amp input to work with cabs.
>
> > I've played a friends V-Amp Pro and except for the latency time it
> > isn't that bad for the money. But I've to say that I've played it with
> > a modified Marshall MR9200 (2x 35W Class A Power Amp) thru 4 single
> > 1x12" Cabs (Marshall 1912) with a Gibson Les Paul.
>
> > greets
> > J rgen
>
> What do you mean by 'latency time'??  Does it glitch between patches?  I
> had a Bass V-Amp Pro (that I really liked) and I don't remember that.  
> But, I didn't change patches that much live - I used it for Acoustic
> shows.

no, I mean the time between playing a string and hearing it in the
speakers. Depending on the programms and effects I use, I hear a delay
from up to 30ms.

TheChris

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Dec 15, 2009, 9:24:37 AM12/15/09
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underwood <underwo...@googlemail.com> wrote in news:89603ef7-ce08-
4ec0-ac10-e...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

Are you sure about that? It's not like it's a MIDI controller... Maybe
my hearing isn't that good - but I have MIDI controllers, and I know
what that's all about...

Good thing I got rid of it! :)

--
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underwood

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Dec 16, 2009, 7:48:23 AM12/16/09
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MIDI Controllers have not a big latency time, they have not to send
lots of data. Or do you mean Guitar-To-MIDI-Systems like AXON? These
have a big latency time because they have to analyze the played string
first, before sending the MIDI-Note Data to the MIDI-Device.

With bass guitars it's eaven bigger because the frequency is lower and
it tooks more time to analyze it, than the higher frequencys of the
guitar.

But back to topic. The V-AMP works with a DSP. The signal from the
guitar is digitized first (AD), procesed with the DSP and then
converted back to an analog signal (DA). This delays the signal.

Use the V-AMP with a normal Amp together or if you have no second amp,
set your V-AMP very quite that you could hear the strings of your
guitar directly and you will notice the delay.

I have the same problem when I'm using Guitar RIG for PC. But this
depends on the used Soundcard and the CPU Power of the Computer.

I haven't played other modelling amps, but maby they use faster AD/DA
Converters and faster DSPs to have lower latency times.

greets
Jürgen

TheChris

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Dec 16, 2009, 8:56:38 AM12/16/09
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underwood <underwo...@googlemail.com> wrote in news:0d0fa8e1-8c3e-
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> J�rgen
>

I'll take your word for it, but, I have never noticed that with any
modeler... I had no ide the whole signal went through a DSP..

I'll stick to my POD 2.0 - which I consider to be the king of the hill!

Jim

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Dec 16, 2009, 6:28:39 PM12/16/09
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I'll just comment that the delayed attack was one reason I didn't buy
one, years ago, when guys raved about it. I did buy one for my nephew.
Had to fix it, of course. I think Behringer means "built to break" in
German. And Bugera must mean "don't look now, but it's really a
Behringer." ;^)

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