Michael Schenker sound?
Ross M Stites
Schenker use a V->wab->Marshall 1987 (50W non-master). Depending on
which JCM you use, you can get very close or can't get in the ballpark.
Like most of the greats, most of it's in his hands!
Ross
>Hi there,
>A play a gibson flying V through a Marshall JCM,
>and I get lots of different incredible sounds.......
>But I cant get the sound of Michael Schenker.
>He mostly uses some effects, but I dont know which
> Who can help me,
> thanks,
> Vincent..........
rob...@my-deja.com
pedals settings etc
>
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stit...@amethyst.tc.umn.edu (Ross M Stites) wrote:
> "Vincent......." <Bentem...@casema.net> writes:
>
> Schenker use a V->wab->Marshall 1987 (50W non-master). Depending on
> which JCM you use, you can get very close or can't get in the
ballpark.
>
> Like most of the greats, most of it's in his hands!
>
> Ross
>
> >Hi there,
>
> >A play a gibson flying V through a Marshall JCM,
> >and I get lots of different incredible sounds.......
>
> >But I cant get the sound of Michael Schenker.
> >He mostly uses some effects, but I dont know which
>
> > Who can help me,
> > thanks,
> > Vincent..........
settings etc go to www.asahi-net.or.jap/~vr9m-ark/michael/michael.htm
click on miscellaneous
Ross M Stites
>In article <stite001....@amethyst.tc.umn.edu>,
>stit...@amethyst.tc.umn.edu (Ross M Stites) wrote:
>> "Vincent......." <Bentem...@casema.net> writes:
>>
>> Schenker use a V->wab->Marshall 1987 (50W non-master). Depending on
>> which JCM you use, you can get very close or can't get in the
>ballpark.
>>
>> Like most of the greats, most of it's in his hands!
>>
>> Ross
>>
>> >Hi there,
>>
>> >A play a gibson flying V through a Marshall JCM,
>> >and I get lots of different incredible sounds.......
>>
>> >But I cant get the sound of Michael Schenker.
>> >He mostly uses some effects, but I dont know which
>>
>> > Who can help me,
>> > thanks,
>> > Vincent..........
>> if you go to r b arakis site he has a list of the eqipment used
>pedals settings etc
>>
Can you give us the actual link. I couldn't guess it from what you gave.
Thanks,
Ross
Greg Gamble
>
> Hi there,
>
> A play a gibson flying V through a Marshall JCM,
> and I get lots of different incredible sounds.......
>
> But I cant get the sound of Michael Schenker.
> He mostly uses some effects, but I dont know which
>
> Who can help me,
> thanks,
> Vincent..........
DiMarzio Super Distortion in the bridge posistion and A Dimarzio PAF Pro
in the neck position.Heres a tip you can try to get close to his lead
sound,from the late 70s and 80s.
Since the JCM 800 has a limited amount of pre-gain you need some
help.Try picking up a Boss OD3 or a Super OD.That will give you some
added boost into the front of the amp without coloring the guitars
natural sound.Tweak the settings that sound good to your ears,but make
sure the tone isnt too raspy.Also make sure you dont add too much
drive(from pedal) as you dont want the guitars signal clipping at
input.You also need a good Wah pedal,say a crybaby or a vox.Plug your
guitar into the Wah first and then the OD unit.With the neck pickup
selected,volume all the way up,and the tone nob between 6&8,crack the
Wah open about halfway.Move it ever so slightly up or down,and you will
find the "sweet spot". You should then hear the open "AAHH" vowell
sound.From there you can go about tweaking the amp>Make sure starting
out your preamp volume is on 10.This should give you the basis for that
elusive sound I have the impression you are looking for.However,without
a Bradshaw rack and tens of thousands of dollars worth of gear working
simultaneously with the help of a tech doing program changes for you,its
really hard to get a high profile players sound down these days.
oss da la vega
Ross M Stites
[snip]
>simultaneously with the help of a tech doing program changes for you,its
>really hard to get a high profile players sound down these days.
Greg,
Check my other post on this. I just found a recent interview with
Schenker and he apparently still gets his sound with the Gibson V,
Crybaby, and a Marshall 1987 with a touch of echo here and there -
no racks, no funky effects. I think most people would be surpised how
many of their heroes get the best tones from a guitar into a non-master
amp with no/little effects.
Ross
Greg Gamble
system.I thought his sound was a little over-processed,unless it was the
weed I was smoking.However, MSs tone was noticably different while he
was doing the mid 80s pop-metal as opposed to the livid style of
Euro-metal he is mosted noted for,and from a period in which his best
work will be remembered.Congrats to him for going back to the basics,and
re-defining his true nature as a visionary guitarist with few peers.
Greg
PS_can you name me guitarsts who you suspect may have been influenced or
have integrated MS's stylings into their playing??I can think of a few.
Gary Moore
John Norum
John Sykes
Malmsteen
Randy Rhodes
Steve Vai
Brian May(no kidding,they used to hang Queen opened for the
Scorps,way back when)
George Lynch
Uli-Jon Roth (oops,just kidding,Michaels mentor De Facto)
rush...@my-deja.com
HALFWAY POSITION...thru a good TUBE amp....you can sound close to
schenker. course,live he uses a little echoplex as well.setting THE AMP
to little treble,and lots of MIDS and 1/2 way on the BASS....this
helps.also--set the tone control on the DS1 pedal completely CCW.that
gets rid of the screechy treble---and makes the distortion sound smooth!
good luck---------------brian
you,its
> really hard to get a high profile players sound down these days.
>
Vincent.......
Greg Gamble <rads...@globalco.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
38D79E...@globalco.net...
> PS_can you name me guitarsts who you suspect may have been
influenced or
> have integrated MS's stylings into their playing??I can think of a
few.
> Gary Moore
> John Norum
> John Sykes
> Malmsteen
> Randy Rhodes
> Steve Vai
> Brian May(no kidding,they used to hang Queen opened for the
> Scorps,way back when)
> George Lynch
> Uli-Jon Roth (oops,just kidding,Michaels mentor De Facto)
.......dont forget ''Ad van den Berg", and then especially listen
to his solo in the song: ''Burning hearth", by the band also called
''Vandenberg'', He must have practiced years to get this typical
Michael solo!
He has got the exact Michael sound, only its impossible to
get the same feeling and timing als M., but he comes close,
I never heard anyone getting so close to M.
Vincent...........
by the way I previously owned a JCM 800
now I play a JCM 2000 dsl 100,
and I do own a Wah, but a cheap one.........
but I will experiment!
rob...@my-deja.com
stit...@amethyst.tc.umn.edu (Ross M Stites) wrote:
> "Vincent......." <Bentem...@casema.net> writes:
>
> Schenker use a V->wab->Marshall 1987 (50W non-master). Depending on
> which JCM you use, you can get very close or can't get in the
ballpark.
>
> Like most of the greats, most of it's in his hands!
>
> Ross
>
>
> >A play a gibson flying V through a Marshall JCM,
> >and I get lots of different incredible sounds.......
>
> >But I cant get the sound of Michael Schenker.
> >He mostly uses some effects, but I dont know which
>
> > Who can help me,
> > thanks,
> > Vincent..........
> if you go to www.asahi-net.or.jap/~vr9m-ark/michael/michael.htm then
click on miscellaneous
rob...@my-deja.com
stit...@amethyst.tc.umn.edu (Ross M Stites) wrote:
> "Vincent......." <Bentem...@casema.net> writes:
>
> Schenker use a V->wab->Marshall 1987 (50W non-master). Depending on
> which JCM you use, you can get very close or can't get in the
ballpark.
>
> Like most of the greats, most of it's in his hands!
>
> Ross
>
> >Hi there,
>
> >A play a gibson flying V through a Marshall JCM,
> >and I get lots of different incredible sounds.......
>
> >But I cant get the sound of Michael Schenker.
> >He mostly uses some effects, but I dont know which
>
> > Who can help me,
> > thanks,
> > Vincent..........
> rob
the bridge and a custom/sh5 at the neck as for his amp set up in a
recent interview he said that he now got enough tone from the marshall
amps he uses now to do away with using the cry baby,at the moment he is
using 2xjcm 800 50w 2205 with 912m cabinets,he also uses a boss dd3
digital delay,boss ce5 chorus and a marshall switch box i assume this
is used for channel switching the usual amp settings are (master
presence 10,volume9.2,reverb5, (boost)
bass9.2,mid5.9,treble0.8,volume7.5 and gain9.2. i hope this information
helps at the moment i am using an ibanez through a fender stage 185 and
find the sound i get to be pretty close
Vincent.......
My flying-V in the neck pick up position, tone at 7
(but the bridge pick up also delivers a good, rough and edgy
M. sound, esp. for the rythm)
the wah half open, lot of gain on the amp(ultra gain, lead 2)
middle at 9, treble at 5, bass at 8, reverb at 6
I dont have a Boss, but I do have a MXR, but I dont think
a JCM 2000 should use an extra OD..........
now I only need a chorus..........
(and Michaels style, but thats hard to get!!!!)
I will experiment further, thank you all a lot so far,
Vincent..........
<rush...@my-deja.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
8b8ev1$lir$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> I FOUND THAT IF YOU USE A BOSS DS1 PEDAL AND A VOX WAH,SET IT AT
ABOUT
> HALFWAY POSITION...thru a good TUBE amp....you can sound close to
> schenker. course,live he uses a little echoplex as well.setting THE
AMP
> to little treble,and lots of MIDS and 1/2 way on the BASS....this
> helps.also--set the tone control on the DS1 pedal completely
CCW.that
> gets rid of the screechy treble---and makes the distortion sound
smooth!
> good luck---------------brian
> > Vincent....... wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > A play a gibson flying V through a Marshall JCM,
> > > and I get lots of different incredible sounds.......
> > >
> > > But I cant get the sound of Michael Schenker.
> > > He mostly uses some effects, but I dont know which
> > >
> > > Who can help me,
> > > thanks,
> > > Vincent..........
