best wah?
Billy Cole
sold right now? I'd like something with an "auto-wah" feature as well. Does
Digitech make one? Thanks,
-billy
Snapper
the Vox (i forget the numbers after that). some brands you might want to
look at: Clyde, Budda, Vox, Dunlop, Coloursound. and if you want a different
wah sound, check out that Parachute Wah, funky.
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The Chris
that's pretty much standard fare. There's the 95Q - or something like that -
it has a knob that lets you chose you filtering. But I also have the Boss
AW-2 Auto Wah - and that thing totally rocks!!! Not only is the wah sound
great (and you can set it as an automatic thing) but the Envelope Follower
stuff is amazing too. The first couple of gigs I used it on I just left the
rate at some arbitrary setting, and it really just added this aire of
'progressivness' to my playing since I wasn't hitting every beat (which is a
hard habit to break). My ears couldn't tell the difference.
In article <zqrS6.19165$%a.13...@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com>, "Billy Cole"
Daniel R. Haney
> I haven't looked in a year or so, but what's the most liked wah pedal being
> sold right now?
Gotta pass on this one.
> I'd like something with an "auto-wah" feature as well.
Mutron III+. Accept no substitutes.
-drh
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Analog Mike
> Mutron III+. Accept no substitutes.
Huh? How about a real mutron-III?
Check www.mu-tron.org for the real story.
Regards, mike ~^v^~ aNaLoG.MaN ~^v^~
Mike "at" analogman dot com http://www.analogman.com
Check out my effects Forum: http://www.delphi.com/guitar
Jack A. Zucker
Pat Martino Joyous Lake thing because it just couldn't keep up. Now it's the
bee's knees.
Similar story with the Electro Harmonics crap. I remember a buddy bringing
over a Mesa Boogie and absolutely blowing away the tone I was getting with
my Traynor tube amp and Electro Harmonics Big Muff pedal.
Guess what? Now the Traynor's fabulous and the Big Muff's a collector's
item.
What happened to the music? Have we all given in to the baseball card
syndrome?
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Analog Mike
>Funny - The original sucked when I bought an original. It couldn't do the
>Pat Martino Joyous Lake thing because it just couldn't keep up. Now it's the
>bee's knees.
Did you ever actually have one or are you just stirring things again? The old
ones ABSOLUTELY KILL any reissues or other envelope including the lovetone. If
you think otherwise you are PLAIN WRONG. I have owned several of every variant.
Jack A. Zucker
> Zucker wrote:
>
> >Funny - The original sucked when I bought an original. It couldn't do the
> >Pat Martino Joyous Lake thing because it just couldn't keep up. Now it's
the
> >bee's knees.
>
> Did you ever actually have one or are you just stirring things again? The
old
> ones ABSOLUTELY KILL any reissues or other envelope including the
lovetone. If
> you think otherwise you are PLAIN WRONG. I have owned several of every
variant.
>
Yes, I had one and it couldn't do the Pat Martino Joyous lake thing. It
couldn't keep up with my playing. How do *YOU* know I'm plain wrong? I love
it how all these guys around here have all this clairvoyant knowledge...
Jaz
Daniel
Richard
> "Analog Mike" <analo...@aol.comfortable> wrote
> > Zucker wrote:
> >
> > > Funny - The original sucked when I bought an original. It couldn't do the
> > > Pat Martino Joyous Lake thing because it just couldn't keep up. Now it's
> > > the bee's knees.
> >
> > Did you ever actually have one or are you just stirring things again? The
> > old ones ABSOLUTELY KILL any reissues or other envelope including the
> > lovetone. If you think otherwise you are PLAIN WRONG. I have owned several
> > of every variant.
>
> couldn't keep up with my playing. How do *YOU* know I'm plain wrong? I love
> it how all these guys around here have all this clairvoyant knowledge...
The problem is that you've extrapolated from a single unit to all units,
whereas Mike has owned "several of every variant." You know how
notoriously variable "vintage" effects are from unit to unit.
What did Pat Martino use, BTW?
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Tavo
> Who's Pat Martino?
He's the Lead guitarist of Godsmack! Come on now! dontcha know anything. :)
:)
TV
ps. Jack, let me fix you up a vox wha with a fulltone inductor and RP2 pot.
then add just a pinch of fatness from a tubescreamer and the fx will ride ya
like a duck on a june bug!
Jack A. Zucker
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> Who's Pat Martino?
I hope you're kidding. It's like asking who's Jimi?
Check out www.patmartino.com
Jack A. Zucker
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I'm game. I love my Fulltone FD II and Fulltone Clyde but I'm always open to
try a new piece of gear! :-)
Daniel
Daniel
Miles O'Neal
> The problem is that you've extrapolated from a single unit to all units,
It's his gifting.
Miles O'Neal
> Did you ever actually have one or are you just stirring things again? The old
> ones ABSOLUTELY KILL any reissues or other envelope including the lovetone. If
> you think otherwise you are PLAIN WRONG. I have owned several of every variant.
He could have just gottena bad one. or he could
just be in his own reality. Who knows?
Jack A. Zucker
>
> > The problem is that you've extrapolated from a single unit to all units,
>
Here we go again, making assumptions. I must have run through 10 of them at
Washington music.
Richard
darrell
Tavo <tavoc...@linkline.com> wrote in message
> ps. Jack, let me fix you up a vox wha with a fulltone inductor and RP2 pot.
> then add just a pinch of fatness from a tubescreamer and the fx will ride ya
> like a duck on a june bug!
Hey TV -
You ever try the Teese RMC-1? It's supposed to be pretty close to what you just
described.
darrell
Richard
> You ever try the Teese RMC-1? It's supposed to be pretty close to what you just
> described.
I use a RMC-MOD board, which I understand is the same board as is in the
RMC-1. I'm really happy with it, although I also bought a CLYDE about a
month ago.
I like them both, but I have to say that if I could only keep one of
them, it'd be the CLYDE.
darrell
Richard <hud...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> I like them both, but I have to say that if I could only keep one of
> them, it'd be the CLYDE.
Hi Richard -
Care to elaborate on the differences? Isn't the Clyde adjustable tone-wise?
thanks,
darrell
Chris G.
own a small Traynor tube amp combo and sold it, not because it didn't sound
good, but because it produced an overdrive and clean sound that I didn't
have much use for in the type of music I make. With the Big Muff they
became especially collectible after so many alternative rock bands started
using them for extremely heavy fuzz sounds...what I call a "Death Fuzz"
sound such as that used by the band "Smashing Pumpkins" on some of their
albums. Played through a big halfstack it gives a nice "wall of sound"
kinda tone. Before I heard that band I would have tried out a Big Muff
and called it total crap. However after I heard what could be done with it,
it opened up new doors for me. Now I love my Big Muff...although not as
much as my EH Microsynthesizer pedal...now THAT pedal makes some truly
viscious sounding fuzz tones along with other neat or wierd tones. Anyways,
always remember that one man's crap tone is another man's dream tone. As
for the best Wah pedal....ah..my favorite was my old D'Armond "Thunderbolt"
Wah/fuzz pedal. I was sooooo stupid to sell mine. Aaaarg!
Chris G.
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Chris G.
unless it happens to come on the Radio. You have to remember that not
every guitarist listens to that type of music.
Chris G.
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Richard
>
> Richard <hud...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> > I like them both, but I have to say that if I could only keep one of
> > them, it'd be the CLYDE.
>
clips with the same guitar and amp/settings (a Strat and BF VibroChamp,
probably), doing the same things with both wahs.
I've been meaning to do this for a while, anyway. I'll try to do it
tonight and will post them once I have.
darrell
Richard <hud...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> I think the best way to answer that is just to post a couple of short
> clips with the same guitar and amp/settings (a Strat and BF VibroChamp,
> probably), doing the same things with both wahs.
I think that's an excellent idea and look forward to hearing what you get. BTW -
I have a SF VibroChamp myself.
thanks a bunch,
darrell
Zorro
> Funny - The original sucked when I bought an original. It couldn't do the
> Pat Martino Joyous Lake thing because it just couldn't keep up. Now it's
the
> bee's knees.
>
> Similar story with the Electro Harmonics crap. I remember a buddy bringing
> over a Mesa Boogie and absolutely blowing away the tone I was getting with
> my Traynor tube amp and Electro Harmonics Big Muff pedal.
>
> Guess what? Now the Traynor's fabulous and the Big Muff's a collector's
> item.
>
> What happened to the music? Have we all given in to the baseball card
> syndrome?
>
Funny ..the direct relationship between scarcity and value. I've got an old
VOX
Bass-booster in my box of junk ........maybe it's "time" is about to arrive.
I've used it
as a pre-amp, on occasion.
ProAnalog
He's Jacks daddy!
Thanks,
Scotty
http://www.proanalog.com
sco...@proanalog.com
"Today, the part of Al will be played by a tall, dark, sinister, ugly man"!
Daniel
>He's Jack's daddy!
Would that make him the Jack Daddy?
Daniel
Daniel
syndrome?
I know it's hard to believe Jack, but some people don't like jazz, and some
people love how their Big Muff sounds. And some people really make music with
their crappy Big Muffs. There ARE better ways to say something doesn't work for
you than saying it sucks.
Daniel
Jack A. Zucker
Come on folks. If we have to be PC here, what's the use?!? :-)
Jazz has nothing to do with my comments about the big muff. I was into Jimi,
Eric, and Duane as well as Martino and Wes...
Daniel
here, and making generalized statements about gear. For example, I don't like
jazz so therefore Pat Martino sucks.
Daniel
Tavo
Lots of diversity here on A.G.E. and its fun to wrestle in our diatribes
dontcha think?? :)
Sometimes muscians that are not theory trained(unlike alot of jazzboxers),
look to their fretboards with a blackholed, bubble nebula hope. Its naive
but the spirit is still fed, the mind is expanded and the throngs are
entertained!
Its like my 80lbs.Akita Dog, Kozo. When she was a puppy and the sprinklers
in the front
lawn would pop up on hot summer days, she would stare at them with amazement
and then lunge trying to bite the hell out of them! She couldnt figure out
was was going on to save her little soul, but She was staying cool and
getting her thirst quenched big time...
Whatever the means to spawn the interest,discipline, and education is well
worth getting
all wet about! :)
peace,
Mr. Rodgers...heh...
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Jack A. Zucker
impressionism does Monet suck too?
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ProAnalog
>impressionism does Monet suck too?
>
Actually, Singer Sargent was the man for me in that era. Monets early stuff
was quite stellar, but towards the end when it was a monochromatic wash of pink
and cobalt blue, I just cringe in pain!
Manet, now that's an impressionist IMHO.
Daniel
you said to me about the Mutron III. You said, and I quote "It couldn't do what
I wanted. So I guess that means it sucked."
It's the same exact thing, except I don't believe it.
Daniel
Kerry Smith
Kerry Smith
Kerry
Kerry Smith wrote in message <3b20...@rsl2.rslnet.net>...
Kerry Smith
one guitar anyway?
Kerry
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Ender1616
in the same genre as all those other groups. say it ain't so! otherwise i'll
have to go over there and repeatedly whack you over the head with effects-laden
vocals and a whooshing delay loop.
-mike
peace- mike
(yes, i am the same guy as mgintz)
Kate Ebneter
>
> Funny ..the direct relationship between scarcity and value. I've got an old
> VOX
> Bass-booster in my box of junk ........maybe it's "time" is about to arrive.
> I've used it
> as a pre-amp, on occasion.
Which model? It might already be worth serious dinero...
Kate Ebneter
Collector of Noise Toys
Tavo
me
for not listing them aphabetically. :)
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Stu
> There ARE better ways to say something doesn't work for
> you than saying it sucks.
Put that at the top of the FAQ!!! It makes sense
to say "it doesn't work for me" or "using my setup..."
more times than not, it's not PC, it's just reality and I give more
credibility to someone who says it that way than "it sucks".
I think Rick basses are horrendous, and Lace
Sensor Strat pickups are by far the crappiest pickups
I have ever tried, but then I listen to Paul McCartney
on the former and Eric Clapton using the latter and
they get wonderful tone.
Stu
Ender1616
peace- mike
Dan in Quebec
My favourite wah is the wah on the Morley Fuzz/Wah model SLDW. The
variable fuzz is not good and with both effects on at the same time....it's
"SQUEALING FEEDBACK CITY" . But using only the "wah", it's fantastic. Very
smooth, very linear, mucho wah, plus it's adjustable. The pedal works on 18
volts D.C. ...two 9 volt batteries...but they seem to last forever and are
easy to change.
Does anyone else in this group have this pedal?
Old Geezer in Quebec
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>
>
> "Daniel" <son...@aol.comedancing> wrote in message
Montie Merciless
take it the wrong way.It's really a shame because there are alot of
intellegent people on this site and you would think they could take it
stride like me and tavo.
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Jack A. Zucker
PC when it comes to gear. I'm not a professional reviewer so please forgive
me rendering an imprompu, unbiased opinion. Folks around here would do well
not to let their gear interfere with their emotional well being. That way
when someone says their gear sucks, they won't feel slighted.
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Daniel
in the reviews I read. Now we know what "sucked" means to you, so there it is.
Daniel
Daniel R. Haney
>> Mutron III+. Accept no substitutes.
>
> Huh? How about a real mutron-III?
> Check www.mu-tron.org for the real story.
Christ on a crutch.
<rant>
If a HAZ Labs Mu-Tron 3/3+ is a "fake", it's because
the originators vacated the field and left a vacuum
TWENTY YEARS AGO. These "vacua" in the marketplace
are why we have so many boutique pedal manufactors
now -- these people loved the originals, lamented
their passing, then made improved versions with their
personal aesthetic stamp in them.
A 20 yr old pedal is just f*kkin OLD. I'll take a Teese
or a Fulltone wah over an original Vox/Thomas/etc. any
day of the week. They're just better.
Having repaired three flavors of original Mu-Tron III
and owned both the HAZ Lab Mu-Tron III and III+, and I
prefer the HAZ Labs. They are cleaner sounding, quieter,
and better built. The originals just sound dirty. If you
like dirt in the signal, that's your business; it's easier
to selectively add distortion than to remove it. An old
Mu-Tron III or a Dynacomp makes that selectivity hard to achieve.
Hank at HAZ Labs doesn't make big bucks from the Mu-Tron III+.
He builds the MuTron because he likes them.
As for a Mu-Tron of any stripe "sucking," I observe that
not everyone has the right sense of their own dynamics
and phrasing to articulate a Mu-Tron well. I took a half hour
getting the hang of a Mu-Tron, most of my friends took less.
Some people never got it, excellent musicians that they were.
</rant>
-drh
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Jack
>
> "Analog Mike" <analo...@aol.comfortable> wrote in message
> news:20010605123819...@ng-mn1.aol.com...
> > Zucker wrote:
> >
> > >Funny - The original sucked when I bought an original. It couldn't do the
> > >Pat Martino Joyous Lake thing because it just couldn't keep up. Now it's
> the
> > >bee's knees.
> >
> old
> > ones ABSOLUTELY KILL any reissues or other envelope including the
> lovetone. If
> > you think otherwise you are PLAIN WRONG. I have owned several of every
> variant.
> >
>
> Yes, I had one and it couldn't do the Pat Martino Joyous lake thing. It
> couldn't keep up with my playing. How do *YOU* know I'm plain wrong? I love
> it how all these guys around here have all this clairvoyant knowledge...
>
> Jaz
Probably couldn't keep up with your attitude, Jaz. You really don't
like much of anything, do you? The original Mutron III is definitely a
better piece than the re-issue. Part of the thing is you have to learn
to work with it to get the best out of it. One thing that will screw-up
the ability to get a good reaction out of the Mutron III is having to
hot of an input level. Too high, and you'll lose the envelope follower
ability. Probably the best axe to use with the original is a Strat. When
I worked for them in the 70's, the M III was setup for a Strat and Twin
Reverb. Ain't saying any other guitar and amp won't work, that's just
what we used at Musitronics (the original manufacturer).
Did get to try the reissue and really didn't care for the sound. It
might be okay if one takes the time to fiddle with the switch settings
inside, but you can't really do that in a music store.
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Jack
Daniel:
The gospel according to Jack A. Zucker says that everything sucks
(except that burned out jazzer Martino).
Jack
>
> > Richard wrote:
> >
> > > The problem is that you've extrapolated from a single unit to all units,
> >
>
> Here we go again, making assumptions. I must have run through 10 of them at
> Washington music.
Originals or reissues? Makes a difference. Like I said in another
post, I didn't have the ability when I tried a reissue in a music store
to fiddle with the switches on the inside of the reissue. They are
supposed to have an effect on the sound and setup of the box.