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"Spanish Romance" what tuning is used?

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Mentalguy2k8

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Apr 20, 2011, 11:42:26 AM4/20/11
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Caught a little of this on BBC this morning, it's Milos Karadaglic plugging
his new album (looks good) and playing "Spanish Romance".

It's obviously not standard EADGBE, anyone have any ideas what it is? I'm
guessing at some kind of open E minor tuning (assuming the lowest string is
E). Am I close?

Here's a video of it (he starts playing at about 3:40)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mClNKEdj-PE

JimT

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Apr 20, 2011, 12:29:26 PM4/20/11
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My guess would be standard tuning. What is making you think it's
something different?

Jim

Nil

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Apr 20, 2011, 12:51:11 PM4/20/11
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On 20 Apr 2011, JimT <jth...@toast.net> wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mClNKEdj-PE
>
> My guess would be standard tuning. What is making you think it's
> something different?

It is in standard tuning.

Lumpy

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Apr 20, 2011, 1:18:29 PM4/20/11
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Nil wrote:
> It is in standard tuning.

It is in sub standard tuning.


Lump


Nil

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Apr 20, 2011, 2:56:50 PM4/20/11
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On 20 Apr 2011, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in
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> Nil wrote:
>> It is in standard tuning.
>
> It is in sub standard tuning.

I consider it to be in hyper-standard tuning.

Pt

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Apr 20, 2011, 3:45:33 PM4/20/11
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The guy has chick fingernails and uses plastic strings.

Pt

Tony Done

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Apr 20, 2011, 4:13:42 PM4/20/11
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"Pt" <pea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pt

<g> I've got chick fingernails and wear gloves at work to protect them. When
did you last use 13-56 strings?


Tony D

Stephen

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Apr 20, 2011, 5:35:17 PM4/20/11
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The minor sound is because he's playing in a minor key (A minor). Get
out your guitar, tune it up to Milos (use his top string as a reference)
and experiment with playing some of his simpler lines. Or play an Am
and an E7 chord from time to time and see if you can hear when he's
playing the same chord.

--
Stephen
Ballina, NSW

daveA

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Apr 20, 2011, 8:28:54 PM4/20/11
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The easiest tuning for it is standard tuning. The only possible
playable alternatives would be to retune the 4th and 5th strings, and
nothing there would make it easier to play. Regards, daveA

Pt

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Apr 20, 2011, 11:20:23 PM4/20/11
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Last time I jammed with Lumpy.

Pt

Lumpy

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Apr 21, 2011, 1:27:13 AM4/21/11
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Tony Done wrote:
> ...When did you last use 13-56 strings?

When I had a hand injury and temporarily had to
put lighter strings on my guitar.


Lump


Tony Done

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Apr 21, 2011, 3:04:32 AM4/21/11
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"Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message
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"Heavier is better". I have actually tried 14-58 (part of a 7-string set) on
my tricone, but there didn't seem to be any gain in tone for the loss of
dexterity. I'm currently using 12-59, which seems like a good compromise
given that resos tend to be weak in the bass, but they are crappy and
expensive Thomastiks, so I might go back to 13-56 on the next change. I
don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but resos seems to have a soft
action compared with flattops, the strings feel one size down to me.

Every time string gauge comes up, I think of the old jazz players who used
massive strings (16s?) on their archtops and played 4 chords to the bar.

Tony D

Lumpy

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Apr 21, 2011, 11:24:38 AM4/21/11
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Tony Done wrote:
> ...I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but
> resos seems to have a soft action compared with flattops...

They've got that big floating hubcap/frisbee under
the bridge.


Lump


the_cat

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Apr 21, 2011, 12:08:28 PM4/21/11
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On Apr 20, 3:13 pm, "Tony Done" <tonyd...@bigpond.com> wrote:

Yeah I call BS on that - If you didn't paint them RED you might not
need the gloves!( to hide them!). And since you said gloveSSS - we can
assume both hands!! hahaha. Aren't they carbon-fiber or nylon
something indestructable anyway? : ) - e

Tony Done

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Apr 21, 2011, 3:54:17 PM4/21/11
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"the_cat" <esha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<g> It is absolutely true. A fair bit a what I do involves handling bags of
grain, compost, plant pots etc, and I wear roping or gardeners gloves to
protect my nails. To much like Michael Jackson if a I just wore one - Folks
would start to wonder, but I've been wearing a pair of gloves for so long
for medium weight jobs that no-one comments any more. I also suffer from
vitiligo (just like Michael), and the worst affected area is the back of my
hands, so gloves protect them from the sun.

Tony D

the_cat

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Apr 21, 2011, 4:01:00 PM4/21/11
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On Apr 21, 2:54 pm, "Tony Done" <tonyd...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> "the_cat" <esham...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I hope your wife/gf isn't a monkey!! - carry-on. <g> e

Tony Done

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Apr 21, 2011, 5:11:25 PM4/21/11
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"Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message
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Do you believe in differences is action hardness as a general phenomenon? I
recall reading an article by Thomas Humphrey, the classical guitar luthier,
in Acoustic Guitar mag, in which he discussed having to adjust the action
hardness on his guitars, because some found it too soft. There seems to be
variation among my acoustics, but I wonder whether it is really just due to
other factors like action height, string tension and neck width and profile.

Tony D

Lumpy

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Apr 21, 2011, 6:20:07 PM4/21/11
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Tony Done wrote:

> Do you believe in differences is action hardness as a general

> phenomenon? ...

Absolutely it's a factor in the amount of pressure needed to fret
a note.

If the bridge moves/flexes a bit, it affects the fretting
pressure. Archtop vs solid body. Whammy bar vs hard tail.
Reso biscuit hubcap vs whatever.

There's also a component with instruments with tailpieces
vs stop bridges. With a tailpiece instrument you've got
another ~6" of string length BEYOND the scale length.
Tension to produce a tone is the same with a stop tailpiece
BUT that added few inches of string will stretch as the string
is fretted, bent, picked etc.


Lump


daveA

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Apr 23, 2011, 9:41:00 AM4/23/11
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I like "Spanish Romance" with a lot of funky bends. An interpretation
without bends would hurt my creativity. Regards, daveA

Learnwell

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Apr 25, 2011, 2:13:39 AM4/25/11
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It is in standard tuning. E minor for the A section and E major for
the B section.

There are more than a few settings of this tune.This one is not
exactly the same, but is close to the Sophocles Pappas version. You
can get that for about $2.95.

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