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Muso

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Jan 25, 2010, 1:28:51 PM1/25/10
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When I paid $50 for my Burswood Dreadnought awhile back, it had been
marked down fron $100. When I recently did a web search, however, I
learned that Burswood now has a website, and that I could replace my
dreadnought for $47 + $8 shipping. I am amazed. I don't know how
they do it. This has certainly got to be the lowest-priced
Dreadnought on the planet.

Mike Mandaville
Austin, Texas

ed s

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Jan 25, 2010, 1:44:17 PM1/25/10
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how do they do it ? = POS maybe.... e

Master Betty

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Jan 25, 2010, 6:53:35 PM1/25/10
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"ed s" <esha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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++++

Child labor?


Arlowe

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Jan 25, 2010, 8:27:57 PM1/25/10
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Muso explained :

I had a look at harmony central & here is what they say about that
guitar:
http://tinyurl.com/yeuxanj

You have to read some of these reviews, they rate this guitar very
poorly...the ones that rate it high are so bloody sarcastc...
really worth reading for a laugh :)

--
"imaginary guitar notes & imaginary vocals exists only in the
imagination of the imaginer...and ultimately who gives a fuck
anyway..."


Tony Done

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Jan 25, 2010, 9:38:23 PM1/25/10
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"Arlowe" <bare....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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<g> I like that, especially the two 10s.

Writing of cheapos, these were on sale in the US for about $50:

http://www.gretschguitars.com/americana/

The reviews weren't that bad:


http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Acoustic+Guitar/product/Gretsch/Americana+Series/10/1

I tried a few in the local store, and thought they would be very good for
lap steel, and not that bad for conventional playing with little work. I've
read stories about bridges coming off though.

Tony D

Muso

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Jan 26, 2010, 12:10:02 AM1/26/10
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On Jan 25, 6:38 pm, "Tony Done" <tonyd...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> "Arlowe" <bare.ar...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> news:mn.d2eb7da1f...@gmail.com...
>
>
>
>
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> > Muso explained :
> >> When I paid $50 for my Burswood Dreadnought awhile back, it had been
> >> marked down fron $100.  When I recently did a web search, however, I
> >> learned that Burswood now has a website, and that I could replace my
> >> dreadnought for $47 + $8 shipping.  I am amazed.  I don't know how
> >> they do it.  This has certainly got to be the lowest-priced
> >> Dreadnought on the planet.
>
> >> Mike Mandaville
> >> Austin, Texas
>
> > I had a look at harmony central & here is what they say about that guitar:
> >http://tinyurl.com/yeuxanj
>
> > You have to read some of these reviews, they rate this guitar very
> > poorly...the ones that rate it high are so bloody sarcastc...
> > really worth reading for a laugh :)
>
> > --
> > "imaginary guitar notes & imaginary vocals exists only in the imagination
> > of the imaginer...and ultimately who gives a fuck anyway..."
>
> <g> I like that, especially the two 10s.
>
> Writing of cheapos, these were on sale in the US for about $50:
>
> http://www.gretschguitars.com/americana/
>
> The reviews weren't that bad:
>
> http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Acoustic+Guitar/product/Gr...

>
> I tried a few in the local store, and thought they would be very good for
> lap steel, and not that bad for conventional playing with little work. I've
> read stories about bridges coming off though.
>
> Tony D- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Hmm... about the bridges coming off, the Americana evidently has a 24"
scale, with a pinless bridge, and ships with light strings. In order
to get more volume, more than one of those reviewers replaced the
light strings with mediums, and one of them mentioned that when he
replaces strings again, he will be going heavier still. I think that
it would probably be a good idea for that fellow to drill and ream the
bridge for bridge pins.

Tony Done

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Jan 26, 2010, 12:45:40 AM1/26/10
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"Muso" <MikeMan...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Very good point that I hadn't noticed. It is true that they sound thin and
"stringy" with the original strings. and I thought of heavier strings as a
matter of course.

Tony D

Tim C.

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Jan 26, 2010, 3:22:36 AM1/26/10
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:28:51 -0800 (PST), Muso wrote in post :
<news:c9850a2f-5981-4b40...@r10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> :

It's even more impressive when you think that the US$ is worth next to
nothing nowadays. ;)

--
Tim C.

Charmed Snark

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Jan 26, 2010, 12:54:26 PM1/26/10
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Master Betty expounded in news:hjlau1$85d$1...@news.eternal-september.org:

> "ed s" <esha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6b1ea30a-cd2f-4b7c-8eb0-
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> On Jan 25, 12:28 pm, Muso <MikeMandavi...@aol.com> wrote:
>> When I paid $50 for my Burswood Dreadnought awhile back, it had been
>> marked down fron $100. When I recently did a web search, however, I
>> learned that Burswood now has a website, and that I could replace my
>> dreadnought for $47 + $8 shipping. I am amazed. I don't know how
>> they do it. This has certainly got to be the lowest-priced
>> Dreadnought on the planet.
>>
>> Mike Mandaville
>> Austin, Texas
>
> how do they do it ? = POS maybe.... e
>
> ++++
>
> Child labor?

No black hat is included, though.

Snark.

Charmed Snark

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Jan 26, 2010, 1:00:33 PM1/26/10
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Tony Done expounded in
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..

After the modding and a possible "crack 'n sproing event" later with the
heavier strings, you may end up back to the normal price, or worse..

The "lowest cost is the law" might work for Zellers or Wallmart, but it
seems rather unwise when it comes to musical instruments. Surely there is
a ton of choice above the bottom of the trough without breaking the bank.

Snark.

Tony Done

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Jan 26, 2010, 2:17:22 PM1/26/10
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"Charmed Snark" <sn...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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Sure is, but I mentioned these Gretsches because I thought they has a very
good sound, in a specific way, regardless of price. Not a clunker by any
means.

Tony D

one_riff_brian

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Jan 27, 2010, 9:35:27 AM1/27/10
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The obvious questions are: Is it any good? By what standards? What
have you got to compare it against? What makes the difference between
cheap and nasty, and cheap and cheerful? I'd expect a bare minimum of
stable tuning, decent tuners, and a buzz-free fretboard factory setup
at any price-any less is just going to be frustration. Any more falls
into the categories of Live Without It. Tweak It. or Upgrade.

I've got one of these:
http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Round-Back-Acoustic-Guitar-by-Gear4music/5XM

for pub environments (liquids in open containers, people with
compromised judgement and coordination), and I play the better
sounding Eko Ranger at home.

I've seen these marked down to £49.97 on the shelves at Tesco. Should
I, shouldn't I........

Muso

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Jan 27, 2010, 11:52:52 AM1/27/10
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On Jan 27, 6:35 am, one_riff_brian <brianhughe...@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> On Jan 25, 6:28 pm, Muso <MikeMandavi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > When I paid $50 for my Burswood Dreadnought awhile back, it had been
> > marked down fron $100.  When I recently did a web search, however, I
> > learned that Burswood now has a website, and that I could replace my
> > dreadnought for $47 + $8 shipping.  I am amazed.  I don't know how
> > they do it.  This has certainly got to be the lowest-priced
> > Dreadnought on the planet.
>
> > Mike Mandaville
> > Austin, Texas
>
> The obvious questions are: Is it any good? By what standards? What
> have you got to compare it against? What makes the difference between
> cheap and nasty, and cheap and cheerful? I'd expect a bare minimum of
> stable tuning, decent tuners, and a buzz-free fretboard factory setup
> at any price-any less is just going to be frustration. Any more falls
> into the categories of Live Without It. Tweak It. or Upgrade.
>
> I've got one of these:http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Round-Back-Acoustic-Guitar-...

>
> for pub environments (liquids in open containers, people with
> compromised judgement and coordination), and I play the better
> sounding Eko Ranger at home.
>
> I've seen these marked down to £49.97 on the shelves at Tesco. Should
> I, shouldn't I........

That looks kind of like an Ovation. Glen Cambel used to play one of
those. Right now my Burswood is in limbo, because I need to get some
fret wire. I replaced the fingerboard, and installed some steel frets
which were okay for awhile, but steel frets are more difficult to
level than the standard copper alloy ones. In the meantime, though,
I'm just waiting for my next mowing season, and tinkering around on my
keyboard.

ed s

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Jan 27, 2010, 12:22:41 PM1/27/10
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> keyboard.- Hide quoted text -

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U should have bought something decent in the first place, then you'd
be playin.
Ya know if you take into acouint the time you play an instrument
( assuming you actually do, and enjoy it). The original purchase price
drops to pennies per hr in the long run. Get a good guitar as soon as
you can and don't waste your time with crap. 2c ed s.

Muso

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Jan 27, 2010, 1:10:52 PM1/27/10
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> you can and don't waste your time with crap. 2c ed s.- Hide quoted text -

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Ed, the fingerboard replacement was a modification, and not a repair.

Sean

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Jan 27, 2010, 2:32:27 PM1/27/10
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ed s wrote:

>
> U should have bought something decent in the first place, then you'd
> be playin.
> Ya know if you take into acouint the time you play an instrument
> ( assuming you actually do, and enjoy it). The original purchase price
> drops to pennies per hr in the long run. Get a good guitar as soon as
> you can and don't waste your time with crap. 2c ed s.

I completely agree. I paid about $3000 for my current acoustic about 10
years ago. I reckon an average of about 50 hours of pleasure per month.
So it's cost me around 50 cents a day to enjoy this fine instrument, and
that price of course gets lower as time goes on.
I've probably put about $250 worth of maintenance into it, so I guess
that adds a couple of bucks a month.

Hell, I used to spend almost ten bucks a day on smoking, and I don't
even want to think about what I spent on single malt scotch per month
before scotch and me broke up. The guitar is a bargain!

ed s

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Jan 27, 2010, 2:45:36 PM1/27/10
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> Ed, the fingerboard replacement was a modification, and not a repair.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

Should have bought what you wanted in the first place. ( pretty
drastic mod, by the way I hope the figerboard isn't wider than the
neck..., perhaps it's ebony and mother of pearly inlays ?? should look
great )- ed

Muso

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Jan 27, 2010, 6:02:27 PM1/27/10
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> Should have bought what you wanted in the first place. ( pretty
> drastic mod, by the way I hope the figerboard isn't wider than the
> neck..., perhaps it's ebony and mother of pearly inlays ?? should look
> great )- ed

When I bought my Burswood, what I wanted was my first full-sized
dreadnought, and that's what I got. After I had played it for awhile,
what I wanted was a fingerboard which was wider than anything which
was available on a steel string guitar, and now I have that too.

Tony Done

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Jan 28, 2010, 1:46:25 AM1/28/10
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"Muso" <MikeMan...@aol.com> wrote in message
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How wide is the fingerboard?

FWIW, as simple and not-too-expensive fix for anyone wanting a wide neck is
a 12-string with six-string nut fitted.

Tony D

ed s

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Jan 28, 2010, 11:23:23 AM1/28/10
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So did you add wood putty to fill the difference between a normal neck
and the now super wide fretboard. Must look stunning ( post a
pic!) .. ROTFLMAO -
Ya know when I bought my first guitar ( a MIA Strat ), and started to
play I though Ohh my, the necks is to thin I can play that chord
without my fingers hitting the unwanted string ( prehaps I bought the
wrong guitar ? )- Then I learned to play it..........no problem...e

one_riff_brian

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Jan 28, 2010, 3:23:20 PM1/28/10
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> I've seen these marked down to £49.97 on the shelves at Tesco....


I forgot to insert a link- it was this Strat copy package on the
shelves

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.207-6814.aspx

Should I, shouldn't I........

I did. I got the last shop soiled display model for £30 this morning,
tweaked it a bit this afternoon, and I'll be playing it at the Open
Mic tonight.

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