Nut width Hohner Guitars

[Bigguy]

I'm trying to find out the nut width on the Hohner HC300 series and the Hohner Chorus
series full size Drednaught guitars. Anyone here know?

Thanks,
EJ in NJ

[David L. Martel]

EJ,

The Chorus series has a 1 3/4 " nut What's an HC 300? There's an HC 30 O
series. Since it's a clasical I'd bet it's 1 7/8"

Dave M.

[Bigguy]

Thanks for the reply..

Two things..

1) Sorry.....I incorrectly said HC300, actually I meant the HW300.

2). Did you measure the Chorus width or get it from the Hohner adverts? I ask this because I bought a Hohner Essential plus
over the internet . The Hohner adverts listed the nut width at 1 3/4, but it actually measured 1 11/16. I had to sell the guitar
because I could not adapt to the thinner nut.

The real reason for the question is that I want to buy a steel string dred with a
mahogany top, sides and back. The nut width should be 1 3/4 or more. The Chorus and
the HW300 are listed as all Mahogany, but I cannot find the width for the HW300
anywhere. It may not be made anymore.

[esha...@yahoo.com]

Had to sell due to 1/16 of an inch.( between 6 string - thats .0104 inches each ) ... wow .. could not adapt.

Talk about excuses..( don't change string gauge, or you'll blow the budget)- Good luck - E

[Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke]

esha...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Had to sell due to 1/16 of an inch.( between 6 string - thats .0104
> inches each ) ... wow .. could not adapt.

Took the words out of my mouf.

Big, fat guys play mandolin.
Tiny kids play upright bass.
They don't make excuses for their lack of practice.


Lump

[David L. Martel]

EJ,

> 1) Sorry.....I incorrectly said HC300, actually I meant the HW300.

I can't find that guitar on the internet. There is an HW-300 G. It's a
cheap dred. Wasn't able to find the nut width with a quick Google.

> 2). Did you measure the Chorus width or get it from the Hohner adverts?

Neither, I found the nut width in a guitar review.

I ask this because I bought a Hohner Essential plus
> over the internet . The Hohner adverts listed the nut width at 1 3/4, but
> it actually measured 1 11/16. I had to sell the guitar
> because I could not adapt to the thinner nut.

Sorry, try before you buy. Buying guitars on the internet is dumb. If it
feels funny or sounds bad in the shop do not buy it. The specs on a guitar
tell you far less than 30 mins of your repertoire on a real guitar
You need to practice on various guitars with various nut widths. You
never know when you may be expected to use a strange guitar.

Dave M.

[Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke]

David L. Martel wrote:

> ...Buying guitars on the internet is dumb.

Nonsense. Buying guitars built by CAD CAM methods functionally
eliminates any kind of "this one sounds better than that one"
between models.

This is particularly true if you're considering an extreme
low end model such as a Hohner. We're talking about a guitar
that sells for about $125 here, not a $8k handmade.

And double particularly true if you think that you "can't play"
a guitar because it has a 1 11/16 neck instead of a 1 12/16 neck.


Lump

[David L. Martel]

Lumpy,

Be nice, Santa is watching.

Dave M.

[Bigguy]

Apparently you don't understand the situation. I have played my two classical guitars with
2 inch and 2 1/8 inch nuts for ten years. I have been able to adjust to my two Seaguls
(steel string/spruce top) with 1.8 inch nut widths, and cannot seem to adjust any
further. The reason I am considering the Hohner is that I want an all Mahogony guitar
(for the sound) and cannot find any with my width requirement except for the Hohner, or
a $1000.00 Martin. As a professional you may be able to justify a $1000.00 guitar. Even
though I can afford one I cannot justify it.

From your comments I believe your experience is with steel string guitars which have nut
widths from 1 9/16 inch to 1 11/16 inch. Perhaps you should get down to your local store
and try playing a complicated piece on a classical before you conclude that nut width is
non issue.

[Tony Done]

<g> Not that we agree on much, but I'm going to do a Lumpy thing here.
What's this talk of "justify"? It sounds a bit defeatist to me. Much
of the stuff we buy is because we like it, not because we need it -
you only have to look at the variety of consumer products to
appreciate that - it just depends how you prioritize your spending. A
cheap all-mahogany guitar might turn out to be a clunker, in my
experience they need to be very lightly built to sound good, and that
doesn't equate with cheap. Even the Martin 15 series sounds overbuilt
to me; it seems to be built to a spruce-top spec.

If I was looking for a cheap steel string for fingerpicking, I would
be looking first at cedar tops, they seem to go well with laminated
b&s.

Classical guitars have wide necks to deal with the high action and
string excursion required for good performance. Steels strings
generally have a much lower action and can be played comfortably with
a narrower string spacing. Are you sure you can't live with a narrower
spacing if a good set up has been done?

Tony D

[Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke]

Bigguy wrote:

> Apparently you don't understand the situation.

Sure I understand.

You suck as a musician if you are forced to play a $100
guitar with a 1 11/16 neck.

You're a fabulous musician if you play a $100 guitar
with a 1 3/4 neck.


Lump

[esha...@yahoo.com]

back on topic... 1/16".. yep. e

[Bigguy]

Tony Done <tony...@bigpond.com> wrote:

>On Dec 20, 12:29=A0pm, "Bigguy"

<ewill...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> "Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke" <lu...@LumpyMusic.com>
wrote:
>>
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>>
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>> >David L. Martel wrote:
>>
>> >> ...Buying guitars on the internet is dumb.
>>
>> >Nonsense. Buying guitars built by CAD CAM methods
functionally
>> >eliminates any kind of "this one sounds better than
that one"
>> >between models.
>>
>> >This is particularly true if you're considering an
extreme
>> >low end model such as a Hohner. We're talking about
a guitar
>> >that sells for about $125 here, not a $8k handmade.
>>
>> >And double particularly true if you think that you "can't
play"
>> >a guitar because it has a 1 11/16 neck instead of a 1
12/16 neck.
>>
>> >Lump
>>
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Thanks for your comments. I had a seagull with cedar top. Nice guitar. The reason for the
mahogony is that, to my ear it sounds better..as best I can describe it ..kind of earthy and
smokey.

As for justification ..I already have a good deal of cash tied up in guitars. If I could find
one for around $400.00 then I'd bite.

EJ in NJ

[Bigguy]

"Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke" <lu...@LumpyMusic.com> wrote:

Touche

As a musician I am trying...very trying...far from fabolous. Ten years and still don't know
much. I do know what my hands can do. I am not hung up on a reasonable price..say
$400.00, but I won't buy another guitar that doesn't fit my size or my musical taste
regardless of price. IMO a Mahogony guitar is more suitable to my purposes, since I
already own Cedar of Spruce ones. If I could find an all Mahogony Dred with 1 3/4 nut (or
wider) for about $400.00 I'd buy it on the spot.

When will you try playing a classical??

Regards,
EJ

[Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke]

Bigguy wrote:

> When will you try playing a classical??

I can't play a classical. I'm a black metal celtic rapper only.


Lump

[esha...@yahoo.com]

Ohhhh classical .. do ya need the footstool as well,, I'd play classical but I can't find a foot stool that's the right height.. and I need one with a whammy bar..cause I can't adjust to a guitar without one.. well maybe I could ,, oh yeah I do have a classical in the pile.. hahahah Ed.

[Tony Done]

Just a thought that came to me from past Usenet advice. If you really
have trouble with steel string necks, get a 12 string and have a 6-
string nut put on it. You might (or might not) suffer some loss of
tone due to the (possibly) heavier bracing, but that's about it.

Tony D

[esha...@yahoo.com]

That is a good idea. ed

[Tony Done]

<g> I can't remember whether I deserve credit or not, but I once
bought a 12-string that had been played for many years as a 6-string.
So I might have had the idea independently of anyone else.

Tony D