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Vinny

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Mar 5, 2003, 1:08:40 AM3/5/03
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Just out of curiosity, I'm looking at the specs of an epiphone & gibson les
paul standard. It looks like they are made of the same materials, except
epiphone has chrome hardware and gibson has nickel. The pickups are not the
same either. Why is the epiphone so much cheaper?


Chess Player

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Mar 5, 2003, 3:44:11 AM3/5/03
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"Vinny" <Vin...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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You just answered your own question, friend. :) Seriously, if you can't
tell the difference then you should definitely be looking at Epiphone
instead of Gibson IMHO. The Gibsons are better quality parts, have a better
sound, and a better feel to them, but for many people the Epiphone feels and
sounds just the same.
Brian


No Busking

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Mar 5, 2003, 6:40:47 AM3/5/03
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Hardware, quality of construction, quality of materials used (wood and
electronics), finish (polyurethane vs. lacquer), thickness of the maple cap,
and strutting value for that magic name on the headstock. Gibsons are made
in the USA in their own production facility, Epiphones are contracted out to
Asian mass-production factories. The construction-quality difference
*should* be substantial, although in practice that's not always been the
case. Gibson appears to be making pretty good instruments at the moment,
though.

There IS a noticeable difference between the two, and it becomes obvious
when you play them side by side. Still, Epiphones aren't bad guitars, and
pickups and hardware can be upgraded to make them really nice instruments.

My favorite Epiphone electric is the 335 Dot copy...great value for money.

Cheers,

Mike Pugh


David Lloyd

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Mar 5, 2003, 9:03:52 AM3/5/03
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Cheaper materials, Far East construction, cheaper construction
methods.

Epiphones are good guitars, but your average Gibson is better than
your average Epiphone.

David Lloyd

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Mar 5, 2003, 9:03:57 AM3/5/03
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"Vinny" <Vin...@optonline.net> wrote in message news:<Ivg9a.672030$HG.132...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...

...Oh, and the word "Gibson" has a certain value itself.

7ball

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Mar 6, 2003, 12:23:51 AM3/6/03
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> ...Oh, and the word "Gibson" has a certain value itself.

This is a primary point that many people have mentioned... I don't mean to
say that Gibsons aren't better overall, I just mean they trade TOO heavily,
at times, on that name alone. The best comparison I can make offhand is
Sony, who's computer monitors are identical in quality to Viewsonic monitors
in the same product bracket, and yet cost $100+ more. I'm sure this, at
least in part, is why many people have opted for Epi's with mods in mind
rather than pay the exorbitant prices that Gibson insists on charging, for
no better reason than they can. (Don't get me wrong, I'm all for one using
what they have - in an honest way - to make more money, but I also believe
in shopping around.)


Gary Avrett

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Mar 6, 2003, 1:27:43 AM3/6/03
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I have had epiphone and now gibson. BIG difference in quality and feel. The
Gibson hardware is much better. The pickups are better. However, the necks
are pretty darn good on an epi and for the price they are a good deal.
Another difference is the finish. Gibson is laquer and Epi is poly.
The Epi Elites are a different matter. They are reported to be very quality,
even as good as or maybe better than the Gibson on some models.

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JJNeet1

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Mar 8, 2003, 1:29:51 AM3/8/03
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I'm still playing an Epiphone EA250 (like a Dot,or the Epiphone version of
a Gibson ES 335) that I bought brand new about 1974 or 1975.I may keep it
forever.The tuneing keys are not too good,but the neck is very good.After all
these years its still almost perfect(one very small chip in the finish).I once
had a Gibson SG,but I've never played a Gibson ES 335 to compare to my
Epiphone.I did recently try out a Jay Turser version of a thine-hollow body,and
I was very impressed with the neck and action,though I didn't play it through
an amp.
I suggest you play a Jay Turser and compare to the Epiphone and
Gibson.Ideally you should play them all side by side without looking at the
brand name on each one-you might be surprised at the results.I also tried out a
Dean thin-hollow,and didn't care for the action and neck.

Jon Neet

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