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Joe Befumo

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Apr 26, 2007, 3:25:20 PM4/26/07
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http://www.rootwerx.com/music/cheat-sheets/default.htm

Thought some might find these helpful.

Joe


jthread

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> http://www.rootwerx.com/music/cheat-sheets/default.htm
>
> Thought some might find these helpful.
>
> Joe
>
Some good tunes.


oasysco

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Apr 26, 2007, 6:47:34 PM4/26/07
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Nice work and a good resource.

Greg

Hud

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Apr 26, 2007, 9:03:50 PM4/26/07
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"Joe Befumo" <j...@nospam.befumo.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.rootwerx.com/music/cheat-sheets/default.htm
>
> Thought some might find these helpful.
>
> Joe
>

Some of those songs will be fun to try and play. Thanks for posting.
Here's a site I like to visit. It's similar.
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/~aparsons/guitar/guitar1.html


John Brose

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Apr 27, 2007, 8:07:08 AM4/27/07
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Thanks. Anybody else know of sites like these.....?

john

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Derek

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Apr 27, 2007, 10:12:26 AM4/27/07
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You can find lots of stuff like this in books for sale at your local
music store.

Lumpy

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Apr 27, 2007, 1:44:07 PM4/27/07
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But those are legal and probably edited for
accuracy. And I'd have to pay for those.


Lumpy
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raymo

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Apr 27, 2007, 2:55:42 PM4/27/07
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"Derek" <de...@ycoaoffice.com> wrote in message
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> You can find lots of stuff like this in books for sale at your local
> music store.

That's true, but not all in the one place; you'd likely have to buy dozens
of books to
get such a wide cross section.

But I think that's beside your point. I'm pretty sure that a *legal* way of
doing this would be to omit the words/melody (not seen in this example) from
the chord progression, eg just have the first word from each verse/sentence
in the song at the beginning of the chord progression.

If you do that, it's just a bunch of chords that could really be any song.
Plus you're not giving away the copyrighted melody or reproducing lyrics
(this would have to obtained in the official publication).

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Hud

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Apr 27, 2007, 8:12:11 PM4/27/07
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"Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message
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For some stupid reason I did not realize sites posting song lyrics and
chords are illegal. Never even gave it a thought. I know tab sites are
being shut down left and right because of copyright infringement. Obviously
it's the same thing. So much attention is focused on tab sites, illegal
downloading and recording copyrighted material without paying royalties that
I failed to use my noggin to see the obvious parallel with sites posting
words and chords. Ignorance is no excuse. What's right is right, and
what's wrong is wrong. That being said, I have a question. If I buy a song
book and sit at home and try to play the songs with a recorder on so I can
hear how I sounded, is that illegal too? What if it's a family function and
someone else is recording me with a camcorder? Common sense tells me that
it's ok as long as the audio/video footage is for personal use and not
posted on the net or anywhere else. Is that right?


RichL

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Apr 27, 2007, 8:27:11 PM4/27/07
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Right. We've been through this before (I was on the receiving end that
time). But you probably didn't catch that. If it's strictly for personal
use, you're fine. Family function is probably OK too as long as whoever
records it doesn't distribute the recording.


Spud

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Apr 27, 2007, 9:01:05 PM4/27/07
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While posting melody and lyrics is illegal, posting chords and chord
progressions is not.
I figure as long as you don't post lyrics in their entirety, one should be
ok, for now.


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Bam

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Apr 28, 2007, 9:15:18 AM4/28/07
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> Right. We've been through this before (I was on the receiving end that
> time). But you probably didn't catch that. If it's strictly for personal
> use, you're fine. Family function is probably OK too as long as whoever
> records it doesn't distribute the recording.
>
>
On another "note" what if I personally wanted to send you a recording of
me playing a cover for you to critique. That would be wrong. Correct?


Big Daddy

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Apr 28, 2007, 9:26:40 AM4/28/07
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"Spud" <sp...@spamtrap.com> wrote in message
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> While posting melody and lyrics is illegal, posting chords and chord
> progressions is not.
> I figure as long as you don't post lyrics in their entirety, one should be
> ok, for now.

you say it's illegal, but has any court precedence ever been set? As far as
I know the things like guitar tabs infringement has never been tested in
court...the threat of a lawsuit causes most sites to just remove them (of
course I'm new to the scene so don't know that for positive).

Just seems to me to be a big difference between big money believing that
something is illegal and threatening legal action because of that, and the
court system actually agreeing with it. We've seen these types of cases
before, especially in the "fair use" area.


RichL

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"Bam" <b...@gig-gamers.com> wrote in message
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I personally wouldn't see a problem with it. Others may disagree.


Hud

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I really don't know.....


Joe Befumo

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Apr 29, 2007, 4:04:34 PM4/29/07
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Oh well, try to do something nice for people...

Thanks for pointing out the legal liability. I'll be taking that page down
directly.

Joe
http://www.rootwerx.com


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ythread

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From what I understand it's OK until you try to make money on a cover. If
not Soundclick would be getting their asses sued off.


ythread

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Apr 29, 2007, 7:18:45 PM4/29/07
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Another victim of agb paranoia. I'd probably do the same thing. :)


Ernie Willson

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Apr 29, 2007, 8:49:44 PM4/29/07
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Sorry you are removing your page. What a pity. I can't believe that any
recording company could be interested in action that is this small. It
seems to me that they would be looking for big time "offenders".
EJ in NJ

Paul

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Apr 29, 2007, 9:17:05 PM4/29/07
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Ernie Willson wrote:

> Sorry you are removing your page. What a pity. I can't believe that
> any recording company could be interested
> in action that is this small. It seems to me that they would be
> looking for big time "offenders".

I would have thought it'd be better to do what was right rather than
what you might be able to get away with.

Paul

Lumpy

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Apr 29, 2007, 9:24:56 PM4/29/07
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ythread wrote:
> From what I understand it's OK until
> you try to make money on a cover.

Oh boy!


Lumpy
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Yes but no blue notes. Just blue hairs.

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jthread

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jthread

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Apr 29, 2007, 11:22:02 PM4/29/07
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"Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message
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> ythread wrote:
>> From what I understand it's OK until
>> you try to make money on a cover.
>
> Oh boy!
>
>
Sorry about the double post.

Are you trying to be cute or can you site some statute?

jthread

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"Paul" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
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Has this group been invaded by the boy scouts?

Paul has his honesty badge he gets a cookie!


Big Daddy

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Apr 30, 2007, 8:59:49 AM4/30/07
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"Paul" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
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who defines what is "right"?


Lumpy

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Apr 30, 2007, 10:39:56 AM4/30/07
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ythread wrote:
> > > From what I understand it's OK until
> > > you try to make money on a cover.

Lumpy:
> > Oh boy!

jthread:


> Are you trying to be cute or can you site some statute?

Oh boy again!

jthread

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"Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message
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> ythread wrote:
>> > > From what I understand it's OK until
>> > > you try to make money on a cover.
>
> Lumpy:
>> > Oh boy!
>
> jthread:
>> Are you trying to be cute or can you site some statute?
>
> Oh boy again!
>
>
That's what I thought.


Paul

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Apr 30, 2007, 10:51:21 AM4/30/07
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Ever heard of the Golden Rule ?

Paul

Lumpy

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Apr 30, 2007, 10:57:42 AM4/30/07
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ythread wrote:
> > > > > From what I understand it's OK until
> > > > > you try to make money on a cover.

Lumpy:
> > > > Oh boy!

jthread:
> > > Are you trying to be cute or can you site some statute?

Lump:
> > Oh boy again!

jthread:


> That's what I thought.

I'm runnin' out of oh boys.
But since you're new, ignorant, and have the
ethics of a turd, here's one more for you.

Oh boy.


Lumpy
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www.lumpymusic.com


Derek

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Apr 30, 2007, 1:38:23 PM4/30/07
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> jthread:
>
> Are you trying to be cute or can you site some statute?

Perhaps you are not knowledgable or have not been on this site much
the past year or more. There are all kinds of sites being shut down
due to copyright infringement. The law is pretty clear about lyrics
and melody being reproduced.

Chord progressions are not copyrightable. Posting or recording
copyrighted material without paying proper licenses is illegal.
Reproducing said material is illegal. This topic has been a regular
one here, so if you are interested, you could run a search.

jthread

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Apr 30, 2007, 2:10:58 PM4/30/07
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"Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message
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> ythread wrote:
>> > > > > From what I understand it's OK until
>> > > > > you try to make money on a cover.
>
> Lumpy:
>> > > > Oh boy!
>
> jthread:
>> > > Are you trying to be cute or can you site some statute?
>
> Lump:
>> > Oh boy again!
>
> jthread:
>> That's what I thought.
>
> I'm runnin' out of oh boys.
> But since you're new, ignorant, and have the
> ethics of a turd, here's one more for you.
>
> Oh boy.

>
Since you're kind of a jerk. - Cite the statute or shut the fuck up you
creepy old piece of shit. I've been in this newsgroup a lot longer than you
but I just don't have diarrhea of the keyboard like you do. You're one of
the reasons I don't post much because you always have something harsh to say
or you want to post a picture of one of those petri dishes you try stick
your shriviled old cock in.
>
BTW: It looks like you have had a stroke when you keep saying Oh Boy. Keep
doing it. I like it.

jthread

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"Derek" <de...@ycoaoffice.com> wrote in message
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Ditto for you you piece of shit.


Derek

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Apr 30, 2007, 2:26:29 PM4/30/07
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jthread wrote:

>Ditto for you you piece of shit.

Oh boy! Now there is a well thought out response. Be sure and use
that line next time someone tries to assist you.

jthread

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Apr 30, 2007, 2:29:42 PM4/30/07
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go jack off

If you can cite the law that says we can't post cover songs for our own use.
Shut the fuck up.

Try reading the post before you jump in.

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Lumpy

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Apr 30, 2007, 3:53:49 PM4/30/07
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Derek wrote:

> Oh boy!...

Sorry, Derek. I own the copyright on the "Oh boy"
phrase. Expect to hear from my barber or my
tree trimmer, whichever one is available.

Charmed Snark

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Apr 30, 2007, 11:58:00 AM4/30/07
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On 30 Apr 2007, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in
alt.guitar.beginner:

> ythread wrote:
>> > > From what I understand it's OK until
>> > > you try to make money on a cover.
>
> Lumpy:
>> > Oh boy!
>
> jthread:
>> Are you trying to be cute or can you site some statute?
>
> Oh boy again!
>
>
> Lumpy

I smell a wumpus!

Snark.

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Derek

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Apr 30, 2007, 8:18:46 PM4/30/07
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jthread wrote:

>go jack off

>If you can cite the law that says we can't post cover songs for our own use.
>Shut the fuck up.


>Try reading the post before you jump in.

I did read the post before I entered. Can you cite the law that says
you can't have sex with your sister? Since you can't does that keep
you from doing it? I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt
and assume not.

Such links have been posted here in recent months, which is why I
suggested running a search on previous related threads. However, you
seem to want to verbally attack rather than find out what the reality
is.

Derek

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Lumpy wrote:

>Sorry, Derek. I own the copyright on the "Oh boy"
>phrase. Expect to hear from my barber or my
>tree trimmer, whichever one is available.

Hmm, send the tree trimmer. I began shaving my head about 15 years
ago, so your barber won't be able to get much from me.

Sean

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Try counting to ten before you click send, eh? You would never say that
to anyone's face, would you? Especially when all he did was politely
express an opinion. If you WOULD say that to someone's face during a
discussion, then you might want to consider getting some counseling. I'm
not saying that to get in your face; I'm quite serious. Think about it.
What kind of society would it be if people screamed in rage and hurled
epithets at each other during discussions? I don't see why it should be
any different in a newsgroup.


--
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ythread

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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 now suck my dick you piece of shit
> --
> http://www.soundclick.com/seanholland


Lumpy

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jthread wrote:
> > Ditto for you you piece of shit.

Sean:
> You would never say
> that to anyone's face, would you?...

I would. I'm not afraid to express my opinion to
anyone, in person, in newsgroups, or anywhere else.

> ...If you WOULD say that to someone's face


> during a discussion, then you might want to

> consider getting some counseling...

I would never tell someone to consider "getting
some counseling". Who am I to judge that if someone
else doesn't walk/talk/act like me that they are
mentally ill or in some other manner "not right?"

jthread might be a totally worthless splash of
brothel spooge, but if he wants to call someone
a piece of shit, that's his right. ESPECIALLY in
an alt newsgroup.

I love you. Live is groovy. Nobody will ever
say anything bad and hurt you.


Lumpy
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Yes. I'm cleaning your bathroom bowl.
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Sean

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Lumpy wrote:
> jthread wrote:
>>> Ditto for you you piece of shit.
>
> Sean:
>> You would never say
>> that to anyone's face, would you?...
>
> I would. I'm not afraid to express my opinion to
> anyone, in person, in newsgroups, or anywhere else.

Get out! You would not.


>
>> ...If you WOULD say that to someone's face
>> during a discussion, then you might want to
>> consider getting some counseling...
>
> I would never tell someone to consider "getting
> some counseling". Who am I to judge that if someone
> else doesn't walk/talk/act like me that they are
> mentally ill or in some other manner "not right?"

Sorry. My mistake. It's just that where I live the only people who
scream obscenities each other are in an uncontrollable rage, probably
drunk, and probably about to get their heads kicked in out in the
parking lot. I apologize if I in any way insulted your culture.

>
> jthread might be a totally worthless splash of
> brothel spooge, but if he wants to call someone
> a piece of shit, that's his right. ESPECIALLY in
> an alt newsgroup.
>
> I love you. Live is groovy. Nobody will ever
> say anything bad and hurt you.

Fuck off.

>
>
> Lumpy


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Lumpy

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Sean wrote:
> Fuck off.

See? Now you're acting like the big girls.

Takes a real man to wear the big panties.

Sean

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Lumpy wrote:
> Sean wrote:
>> Fuck off.
>
> See? Now you're acting like the big girls.
>
> Takes a real man to wear the big panties.
>
>
> Lumpy

Aha. No sense of humour, eh?

--
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Lumpy

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Sean wrote:

> Aha. No sense of humour, eh?

Nonsense. Here's three of my favorite jokes:

.......

Man walks into a bar.
OUCH!

.......

Bob Dylan

.......

What's green and sings?
Elvis Parsley.

Lumpy
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Sure. Which country would you like?
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Derek

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May 1, 2007, 11:16:19 AM5/1/07
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Yeah, this is a safe place where guys like jthread can spout that sort
of nonsense. I feel quite confident he wouldn't do that in person. If
he would/does, no doubt he is one miserable, angry, bitter
individual.

We are probably providing a service, by allowing him to vent his
frustrations in a consequence free environment. This way he doesn't
kick the dog or beat his wife/girlfriend (hopefully). If this is the
case, then jthread, let'er rip pal, we are here for you.

Sean

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Lumpy wrote:
> Sean wrote:
>
>> Aha. No sense of humour, eh?
>
> Nonsense. Here's three of my favorite jokes:
>
> .......
>
> Man walks into a bar.
> OUCH!
>
> .......
>
> Bob Dylan
>
> .......
>
> What's green and sings?
> Elvis Parsley.
>
>
>
> Lumpy

Very nice.

Carrot walks into a bar. Bartender says, "Sorry buddy, we don't serve food."

--
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Sean

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Well, when you put it that way, I might change my mind. Anyway, there's
always the kill file option.

--
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Ed Maier

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May 1, 2007, 9:26:04 PM5/1/07
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Lumpy wrote:
> Sean wrote:
>
>
>>Aha. No sense of humour, eh?
>
>
> Nonsense. Here's three of my favorite jokes:
>
> .......
>
> Man walks into a bar.
> OUCH!
>
> .......
>
> Bob Dylan
>
> .......
>
> What's green and sings?
> Elvis Parsley.
>
>
>
> Lumpy

A dog with a bandaged foot walks into a saloon and says, "I'm lookin'
for the man that shot my paw."

Ed Maier

RichL

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LOL!!! Now that's a good one!

Horse trots into a bar and the bartender says, "Why the long face?"


Charmed Snark

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On 02 May 2007, "RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Some lepers are playing hockey and they have a face off in the
corner.

RichL

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"Charmed Snark" <sn...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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A little Canadian flavour there, eh?


Charmed Snark

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> A little Canadian flavour there, eh?

Beauties eh?

Ed Maier

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And in other news today, a man trying to be the first one to ever walk
around the world......drowned.

Ed Maier

Sean

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RichL wrote:
> "Charmed Snark" <sn...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message

>> Some lepers are playing hockey and they have a face off in the


>> corner.
>>
>> Snark.
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
> A little Canadian flavour there, eh?
>
>

Ok, for you Yanks: The leper football game was interrupted because there
was a hand-off.

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