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Leonarb

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Jun 29, 2003, 12:41:58 AM6/29/03
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I haven't played guitar in a long time. I recently bought an Ovation accoustic
guitar (the Pinnacle) which has pickups built in and can be used with an amp.
I thought an accoustic guitar would be easy for me to casually pick up and play
every once in a while, but I considered a mexican Fender Strat with a small 15
watt Marshall amp. It would have cost about the same as the Ovation by itself.

I was going to return the Ovation and buy the Fender but now I'm thinking of
buying the Fender strat in addition. I've noticed though that they sell amps
specifically for accoustic guitars. If I buy the Marshall amp for the electric
guitar will it work okay with the Ovation? Any issues with doing this? I
certainly don't want to buy two amps.

This all started out as just an attempt to get away from the computer and have
another hobby. I don't want to spend a lot of money.

Mike

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Jun 29, 2003, 11:46:17 AM6/29/03
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When you go to buy the strat and amp, why not bring the Ovation
and give it a go plugged into the Marshall? (clean channel) I think you'll
be pleased. Save the crunch and effects for the Strat.

We have an Ovation Celebrity I occasionally plug into our
Line 6 Spider 210. Sounds fantastic.

Good Luck

Mike


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Michael Lyons

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Jun 29, 2003, 12:27:11 PM6/29/03
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"Leonarb" <leo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Good question. I just got a Martin acoustic/electric (000CXE) and a Fender
Acoustasonic 30 but I am going to bring the amp back and upgrade to
something more powerful. I was thinking of getting the Acoustasonic Jr
that's 80 watts. However, I'd like to get an electric guitar (maybe a Strat)
too so I am wondering the same thing myself. What would be the best choice
for an amp that could do acoustic and electric.

The thing I liked about the Acoustasonic was that it was a nice all-in-one
solution for my acoustic needs at least, with a mic channel as well as
string dynamics and chorus features. I suppose this may still be an
excellent choice if I was to get an effects unit of some kind for use with
the electric guitar.

On the other hand, maybe a low end Marshall would be something to check out.
I wonder if they make any amps that include a mic channel along with
instrument inputs. Looks like I will be visiting my local Guitar Center
sometime soon... :-)

I'll be watching this thread to see what people have to say about the
options available when you like to play both acoustic and electric.

Michael


The Colemans

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Jun 29, 2003, 6:39:26 PM6/29/03
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"Michael Lyons" <ml1...@NOSPAM-attbi.com> wrote in message
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I think a normal amp can do the job, and even do it very well, under the
right circumstance.

The first problem with a regular amp is obvious, most of the time.. larger
speakers, and no piezo or other high frequency driver.

Acoustic amps always have that extra capacity for highs and presence...
guitar amp have a speaker which often doesn't get above 5KHz.
A piezo alone will extend to 29KHz.

However.. just because the guitar is not putting out quite a full range it
doesn't mean it sounds bad.

Your mileage may vary.
Or earage.

A guitar amp will still sound good enough for practice, even with others.
and I've known a lot of guys who didn't use an extra amp onstage that used
acoustic and electric..it was a good practical solution for them.

some will tell you that most of the time you would be hearing your guitar
through a monitor system onstage, anyway. Most people seem to run their
acoustics right into the board.. better mix, no extra amp..

So for me.. the guitar amp is ok.
Probablyl want to try a few and see what's best..

Twang!

Tony Meloche

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Jun 29, 2003, 7:21:09 PM6/29/03
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Good stuff, and I agree. When I have played pickup-equipped
acoustic through my Fender Princeton SC, I get excellent results, but I
admit it does sound best through a dedicated acoustic amp.

One other idea: A dab (and I do mean just a "dab") of chorus really
makes ampified acoustic tone blossom on any amp. Chorus pedals are not
expensive (my amp has chorus built in - many others do, too). But if
you want a dual-duty amp, go for one that is famous for it's "clean"
tone (almost any Fender, to name one brand). I don't think a Marshall
would be a good choice for amplified acoustic, though I'm sure there are
folks that get good results that way.

The Old Guy


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Al Ashram of Dimura

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Jul 2, 2003, 5:22:32 AM7/2/03
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>...I've noticed though that they sell amps
> specifically for accoustic guitars.
Were I faced with the question about accoustic amplification I would investigate what amplifiers professionals
accoustic player were using for live and recording applications. That information is not difficult to find.

> This all started out as just an attempt to get away from the computer and have
> another hobby. I don't want to spend a lot of money.

I share your feeling and am surprised at the number who insist on plugging their instrument into their computer and
spend hundreds on guitar software. I do like Jammer Pro, however.

daverite

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Jul 2, 2003, 2:24:36 PM7/2/03
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About a year ago I really wanted 2 guitar items. I had never owned a
proper amp or an acoustic guitar. I bought a Marshall AVT50 to play my
electric through and also bought a Washburn acoustic the same day. I
even joked with the salesman "I'm not intending to use them together,
HA HA." The Washburn had a pickup so on a whim I plugged it into the
Marshall. To my suprise it sounded fantastic through the clean
channel!

I would recommend checking out standard electric guitar amps and take
your Ovation along to see which one bridges the gap the best.

-Dave

Sachin

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Jul 2, 2003, 6:37:08 PM7/2/03
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I may be wrong on this, but I don't see any reason to have an accoustic
guitar plugged into an amp UNLESS you're playing in a gig/band where
you want the amplification....

An accoustic guitar amp till few years ago was expected to "only amplify
the sound without modifying/destorting it" .. I think only Fender came up
with these Accoustasonic amps (Jr and the bigger one) which allow a alot
of reverb etc ...

If you want the effects, why use accoustic guitar anyway ?

(Incidentally, I did buy accoustasonic Jr when I started learning .. just because
I found it easier to follow what i was playing when it came from a distance..
I didn't use it much and is just sitting idle
... and I've a cool Les Paul and an electric amp)

--Sachin


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Michael Lyons

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Jul 2, 2003, 11:27:06 PM7/2/03
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"Sachin" <jo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I may be wrong on this, but I don't see any reason to have an accoustic
> guitar plugged into an amp UNLESS you're playing in a gig/band where
> you want the amplification....

I can. Because it sounds great. I have an Acoustasonic 30 that I use as a
practice amp at home and I love it. I play three different Martins through
it and the sound is great. I like the way a little chorus and reverb
enhances the beautiful sound of a good acoustic guitar. I still like playing
unplugged too but sometimes it's a lot of fun to play through the
Acoustasonic.

> If you want the effects, why use accoustic guitar anyway ?

Because I want the sound of an acoustic with chorus and reverb, not an
electric. It's a very different sound. I love playing acoustic through an
amp, especially an amp designed for acoustic guitar. I used to have an old
Peavy tube amp that was kind of similar to a Fender Twin Reverb - I don't
remember now what model it was. I got a Digitech effects unit and used to
have a lot of fun screwing around with effects and an acoustic guitar which
at the time was a Martin D-1 with a Martin thinline under the saddle pickup.
In the end though, the only effects I used seriously with it were reverb and
chorus and it sounded really good. I thought it was just me who liked this
kind of sound until I became aware of the Acoustasonic amps and saw that
they come with reverb and chorus effects. It was interesting to find I
wasn't the only one who thinks an acoustic with chorus sounds really good.

I'm very happy with my Acoustasonic and I think it enhances the sound of my
guitars very nicely when I use it. Want me to take that Jr. off your hands?
;-)

Michael


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