Goodnight.
It's a drug. I'm addicted.
--
----Every once in a while I think out loud, "Damn, I love this shit...."
I've definitely noticed that my bass cabinets feel as light as a feather
when I'm bringing them back into the house at 3:00 AM. But putting them in
the car before the gig is brutal.
I'm usually more concerned about getting pulled over.
Mike
Mike
================
Why?
I feel the exact opposite. The loadout is the worst part of the gig.
When I get home I don't even unload my car. Only my bass comes inside
with me. I am usually sore, stiff and wired.
We often say we play for free, but we charge you for having to cart
our gear around.
----Being completely sober at 3am is difficult for me?
But you have to be. Otherwise you're drinking at work.
For my own part it's usually because I am dead tired and often have
been drinking at least a little bit, not ideal conditions in which to
be driving home late. Add these to the facts that the roads are
typically not that crowded in the wee hours and cops will pull you
over late at night just to have something to do, and, yes, the
escalating traffic stop is a valid concern. In the best
circumstances, its just an inconvenience, a delay in getting home and
to bed; in the worst, it's a major problem. Up until now, I have only
encountered cops that weren't in the mood for any extra trouble, and
upon learning I was a musician on my way home from a gig, simply told
me to be careful the rest of the way, but sometimes weird shit happens
and there you are.
Edward G.
Baltimore, MD
FWIW, I don't like the schlepping in any direction, which is why I
rail against unnecessary stuff (at least to myself q;-b). It's a game
of economics: the more energy you spend hoisting and heaving, the less
you have for the finer aspects of the work. There are no extra points
for breaking your back or burning out too early. It's a marathon, not
a sprint.
My equipment never feels heavier than it does on the last trip into
the house from the car. Sometimes I'll even leave the cabinet in the
car overnight, thinking 'if someone really wants to steal this boat
anchor, they're welcome to it'.
Edward G.
Baltimore, MD
As MegaSwing noted below, sometimes cops like to check out, for no
good reason, cars that are out driving around at 3:00 am. I usually
have 2 beers and plenty of water during a gig, so not impaired, but
the risk is there. I worried more about getting pulled over when I
drove the band van. A beat-up white van w/ a ladder rack on it,
around these parts, usually means a Mexican behind the wheel. Cops
love to pick on the Mexicans.
Anyhow, you knew what I meant when you asked "Why?".
Mike
>> When I get home I don't even unload my car. Only my bass comes inside
>> with me. I am usually sore, stiff and wired.
> My equipment never feels heavier than it does on the last trip into
> the house from the car. Sometimes I'll even leave the cabinet in the
> car overnight, thinking 'if someone really wants to steal this boat
> anchor, they're welcome to it'.
I always leave everything except my basses in the car, and unload all
the other stuff the next day.
I'll do that when my deductible is lower. Right now, $500 would hurt. A lot.
> I'm usually more concerned about getting pulled over.
Absolutely! That, and hitting deer.
The cops love to lurk not far from bars, clubs, dance halls, etc., at 2am.
So, don't give them a reason to be anything more than a brief annoyance.
>> I always leave everything except my basses in the car, and unload all the
>> other stuff the next day.
>
> I'll do that when my deductible is lower.
Why would you ever do that? Your gear is light as a feather at 3am --
did you forget that already?
You know what I meant by that. If you say otherwise:
1) You're not as smart as I think you are.
2) Business is slow.
I have a very small amp and light cabinet. They and my bag of cables/
accessories lives in my trunk. They never leave. Now that my
daughter is old enough to sit in the front seat AND I can no longer
store gear on the first floor due to a recent move, my cabinet rarely
leaves the backseat. It's only 40 pounds, but I'm still not going to
haul that 40 pounds up a flight of stairs at 3 am, or even noon.
I live above a local hardware store, so my car is parked in a lit
parking lot with video surveillance. Mine is the only car there at
night. Daytime is an irregular stream of hardware customers.
> You know what I meant by that. If you say otherwise:
>
> 1) You're not as smart as I think you are.
>
> 2) Business is slow.
Okey dokey. Whatever you say, Doug.
>> The cops love to lurk not far from bars, clubs, dance halls, etc., at 2am.
>
> So, don't give them a reason to be anything more than a brief annoyance.
Sure thing, Doug. Thanks for the advice!
Stop being a lawyer when you post here. Jeez....
Thanks for the compliment. However, the advice will most certainly be lost
on people whose primary reason for playing gigs is to drink.
FYI, the cabinet is the only thing that I ever leave. Everything else
is easy to walk with --by design.
Edward G.
Baltimore, MD
One of the benefits of the state wide anti smoking ban is that I can
now do this without having the car smell like an ashtray the next
morning.
Before that I had to religiously unload em and stick em in the storage
area in the garage before goin to bed... which often sucked. But at
least no trip down the stairs!
--
Todd H toddh.net myspace.com/bmiawmb
You have it backwards: My primary reason for drinking is to play gigs.
Best way to find other musicians. q;-b
Edward G.
Baltimore, MD
----Please, we play classic rock.....gigs *are * my "going out"....
There's a band like that around here. Their ads say "We're playing at
(whatever) club this Saturday. Come on out & get shit-faced with us."
They sound that way.
Sounds like a classy scene.
Edward G.
Baltimore, MD
Edward G.
Baltimore, MD
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They play some decent places, but they bring their own atmosphere: El
Slobbo
Then comes the gig hangover.
Pt
I agree.
Pt
best
gr
----We don't....we've got all the gigs we can handle....BTW, you don't
have to be shit faced to catch a DUI....
----Sounds like they're better than most bands ....
----Our primary reason for playing gigs is to have fun and make a little
pocket money.....a couple beers certainly goes along with having fun in
my book....
Gigs aren't necessarily a measure of quality.
Everyone's tolerance level is different. But I would wager that most bands
who sound like crap:
1) Are beyond "a little buzz"
2) Don't know how bad they sound
> Then comes the gig hangover.
I haven't had one of those since they banned smoking in bars and
clubs...
--- Derek
--
Derek Tearne - de...@url.co.nz
Vitamin S - improvisation from Aotearoa/New Zealand
http://www.vitamin-s.co.nz/
Seriously? Second hand smoke would give you a headache the next day?
Note: Not looking for a flame war - just curious if it's a figure of
speech or not.
--
Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
- Anonymous
There are still civilized companies out there...
--
Les Cargill
> Seriously? Second hand smoke would give you a headache the next day?
> Note: Not looking for a flame war - just curious if it's a figure of
> speech or not.
Why not? Stale, condensed second-hand smoke is foul. Are you
suggesting it is somehow hypo-allergenic?
Edward G.
Baltimore, MD
> Derek Tearne wrote:
> > Pt <pea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Then comes the gig hangover.
> >
> > I haven't had one of those since they banned smoking in bars and
> > clubs...
>
> Seriously? Second hand smoke would give you a headache the next day?
> Note: Not looking for a flame war - just curious if it's a figure of
> speech or not.
Seriously.
I used to get headaches after frequenting particularly smokey venues
regardless of whether I'd consumed alcohol or not - and the first time I
had a 'hangover' having not consumer any alcohol was a revelation.
Eventually that stopped - I guess my body developed a tolerance for a
certain amount of smoke - it would be interesting - in an abstract kind
of way - to see if it happens again now I've been able to avoid
encountering tobacco smoke in any concentration for a number of years.
I'm saying that I've never had anyone tell me the next day that they
suffered a hangover simply from breathing second hand smoke for an
evening. I have allergies, but they have never given me anything
remotely like a hangover. Remove me from the allergen, and my body
returns to normal rather quickly.
So, it's not a dumb question.
> I used to get headaches after frequenting particularly smokey venues
> regardless of whether I'd consumed alcohol or not - and the first time I
> had a 'hangover' having not consumer any alcohol was a revelation.
>
> Eventually that stopped - I guess my body developed a tolerance for a
> certain amount of smoke - it would be interesting - in an abstract kind
> of way - to see if it happens again now I've been able to avoid
> encountering tobacco smoke in any concentration for a number of years.
Have you ever smoked? I know a few former smokers who say that
second-hand smoke bothers them physically much more than smoking ever
did. I've known these people well enough to know that they weren't being
the stereotypical reformed smoker types. Could just be that they always
felt like shit and never knew the difference.
I know lots of people who've gotten headaches, sore throats and stuffy noses
from hanging around smokers. Is it an actual hangover per the strict
definition? Of course not.
But I'll bet you'll pursue this issue for at least another 20 messages.
> MegaSwing wrote:
> > On Nov 12, 6:59 pm, Jim Carr <newsgro...@azwebpages.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Seriously? Second hand smoke would give you a headache the next day?
> >> Note: Not looking for a flame war - just curious if it's a figure of
> >> speech or not.
> >
> > Why not? Stale, condensed second-hand smoke is foul. Are you
> > suggesting it is somehow hypo-allergenic?
>
> I'm saying that I've never had anyone tell me the next day that they
> suffered a hangover simply from breathing second hand smoke for an
> evening.
I feel almost certain that I've mentioned this more than once on this
very newsgroup.
You'll probably have to prove it, and have the proof notified.
> I feel almost certain that I've mentioned this more than once on this
> very newsgroup.
I'm 100% positive that I told people that I think standard notation is
superior to tab, but look where that got me.
Or notarized, even. :-)
>Driving along. late at night, I thought just how much of a high one is
>on..not like a succesful day at work, this is more than that, it is
>that inner feeling that only the stage can give you, the adrenalin
>that drives you, the feel that all is well in the world, 'know what I
>mean?
>
>Goodnight.
And then you have a flat tire. And the spare is flat, too. When you
finally get home, the sun is up and birds are singing.
It's all good, though.
;o)
----They are around here.... maybe you'd like to come on out and catch a
show....I'm sure they'll have tea there....
----If people are leaving en masse, that might be a sign....
Drunk people are very poor judges of quality.
Edward G.
Baltimore, MD
----Usually the management and staff aren't drunk, however....which is
probably why we get return gigs despite lack of a "following"...
They're judges of a different quality. I've played
with people who just couldn't get it across to drunks.
--
Les Cargill
Have you ever played to a smoke filled environment?
--
SR