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Size of Allen Key for Squire P-Bass

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Steve Freides

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Nov 4, 2011, 2:05:40 PM11/4/11
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Lords and Ladies, I just picked up a used Squire P-Bass, a relatively
recent vintage, I assume.

Any idea what size Allen wrench might go in there? Metric or English?

Thanks very much.

-S-


Douglas Lubahn

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Nov 4, 2011, 2:38:37 PM11/4/11
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I assume for the truss rod?
Pretty sure it's 'Merican SAE 3/16"
(after all, England does use the Metric system.:)
But just fer shit's-n-giggles, head to Lowes or Home Depot and buy the
full sets of each.

Like this fer instance.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100646806/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
One can NEVER have enough tools.

If it ain't SAE, them try the 5(?) Mm.
Whatever, make sure it fits TIGHT(without pounding it in, of course)
so as to make sure it doesn't round out the nut.
If you do that, you will frown.

Brian Running

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Nov 4, 2011, 2:54:27 PM11/4/11
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> Any idea what size Allen wrench might go in there?  Metric or English?

Every Fender I have uses a 3/16" hex in the truss rod.

Steve Freides

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Nov 4, 2011, 4:43:37 PM11/4/11
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Brian Running wrote:
>> Any idea what size Allen wrench might go in there? Metric or English?
>
> Every Fender I have uses a 3/16" hex in the truss rod.

Thank you both. All my allen key sets are actually metric (bicycles),
so I'll pick up an English set that includes a 3/16".

-S-


Douglas Lubahn

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Nov 4, 2011, 5:08:01 PM11/4/11
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Puhleeeze!
Don't say "English set", when you mean SAE AMERICAN, that's in inches.

Europe (and that includes England...Uk (english) as well, ARE METRIC!

3/16" of an inch is an AMERICAN Size... SAE! (Society of Automotive
Engineering)

Who knows what the Mexicans or Japanese use when assembling a Squire, or
the steel quality of the nut you want to turn, or what tolerance it was
machined to?

eadg

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Nov 4, 2011, 8:06:05 PM11/4/11
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"Douglas Lubahn" <TheD...@bass.gov> wrote in message
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> Steve Freides wrote:
>> Brian Running wrote:
>>
>>>>Any idea what size Allen wrench might go in there? Metric
>>>>or English?
>>>
>>>Every Fender I have uses a 3/16" hex in the truss rod.
>>
>>
>> Thank you both. All my allen key sets are actually metric
>> (bicycles), so I'll pick up an English set that includes a
>> 3/16".
>
> Puhleeeze!
> Don't say "English set", when you mean SAE AMERICAN, that's
> in inches.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_units

>
> Europe (and that includes England...Uk (english) as well,
> ARE METRIC!
>
> 3/16" of an inch is an AMERICAN Size... SAE! (Society of
> Automotive Engineering)

Using caps makes this all the more ridiculous.

> Who knows what the Mexicans or Japanese use when assembling
> a Squire, or the steel quality of the nut you want to turn,
> or what tolerance it was machined to?

Why not find out? Take a vernier caliper guage and MEASURE
the f******.
3/16" is 4.8mm (1/16 = 1.6mm) so a 5mm hex will not fit and a
4mm hex will swivel. As a brit my first tools were imperial
but embracing decimals (as I had to in 1970 uk) is hardly
rocket science, and how much is a set of metric Allen keys
btw? expensive enough to gamble with the wrong tools instead?

--
SR


Jay S

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Nov 4, 2011, 10:17:01 PM11/4/11
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"Steve Freides" wrote in message news:j91iph$arr$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
just a thought, but if you have a local music shop maybe you could stop in
and see if they have one.
At my shop I have a shopping bag full of the damn things. I think they're
multiplying.

Jay S

--D-y

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Nov 4, 2011, 11:30:29 PM11/4/11
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My local real hardware store sells loose allen keys. Great to have a
set but also good to have a few loose ones sprinkled around-- like
with bikes, every instrument can have a "spares bag" that just goes
with it.
"Semper Paratus"
--D-y

Douglas Lubahn

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Nov 5, 2011, 7:39:52 AM11/5/11
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Home Depot has both full sets together for about 15 bucks.

Steve Freides

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Nov 5, 2011, 8:21:59 AM11/5/11
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Lighten up, puhleeze. I spent years working on bicycles, and our terms
were simply Metric and English - we all knew what we meant.

Thanks, everyone (save this guy) again. I'll be picking up a couple of
loose 3/16" allen keys today at the local hardware store (not Home
Depot, which I don't patronize. Guitar Center and Home Depot are two
large chains which I choose to ignore in favor of the local hardware
store and the local Sam Ash). I was actually at the hardware strore
_twice_ yesterday because I was messing with the gutters, leaders,
downspouts, and the like on our house, and meant to pick these up on my
second trip but, middle age being what it is, I just plain forgot - but
I did remember the topsoil my wife wanted.

<sigh>.

-S-


DGDevin

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Nov 5, 2011, 4:07:04 PM11/5/11
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"Steve Freides" wrote in message news:j939p8$2lj$1...@speranza.aioe.org...


>> Who knows what the Mexicans or Japanese use when assembling a Squire,
>> or the steel quality of the nut you want to turn, or what tolerance
>> it was machined to?

> Lighten up, puhleeze.

Unlikely, he gets some kind of emotional reward out of being a jerk.

> Thanks, everyone (save this guy) again. I'll be picking up a couple of
> loose 3/16" allen keys today at the local hardware store (not Home Depot,
> which I don't patronize.

Get ball-end, easier to use. That's what Fender provides with at least the
deluxe models, a 3/16 ball-end T-handle 10" long.

Larry Knechtel

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Nov 5, 2011, 6:14:18 PM11/5/11
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So was I wrong when I said 3/16" inch when I told him, and how to find
the BEST DEAL?

No!
I was SPOT ON, and you dorks don't know a good deal when when you see it!

Why didn't Steve know what to buy or consider, when it took me a mere 15
seconds to find it on the internet?

"I don't use Home Depot" <--Steve

Who cares?
I just gave an EXAMPLE of where to purchase an ENTIRE SET, for a
great price, Metric, and SAE!

Then some other jackass started in with "british standard" that has NOT
been a standard since, well ever!

Reminds of Jaguars, beer, and Lucas wiring.... the prince of darkness.















eadg

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Nov 5, 2011, 8:31:44 PM11/5/11
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"Larry Knechtel" <TheD...@bass.gov> wrote in message
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Sooner a jackass than an ignorant redneck. Clicking the link
I provided to wiki in my reply points out the fact of the
matter;
"The US customary system, which is historically derived from
the English units which were in use at the time of
settlement."

>
> Reminds of Jaguars, beer, and Lucas wiring.... the prince
> of darkness.

Reminds me of that 12 toed banjo player in
'Deliverance'...are you by any chance related?

-
SR


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