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Example Songs Using The Various Modes?

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MB

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Mar 10, 2003, 11:07:24 AM3/10/03
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In a effort to "get a feel" for the various basic modes,
I'd like to put together a list of oh, say 5 well
known songs that serve as examples for each of
the seven modes.

It would be great, especially for a novice like me,
if at least some of these example songs were very
basic and/or very slow so as to facilitate learning.

Examples where the bass lines are distinct and very
representative of the mode would be appreciated. I
figure some of you who teach bass must already
have several good examples.

Ionian I - (Regular Major)
Dorian ii - (Blues Minor)
Phrygian iii (Spanish Minor)
Lydian IV - (Jazz Major)
Mixolydian V - (Dominant Major)
Aeolian vi - (Pure Minor)
Locrian vii - (Diminished)

Also, examples of the following scales in use by
bass players:

Pentatonic major
Pentatonic minor

Finally, a question. Since the seven basic modes are
all based around a 7-note scale (with different
"starting" positions), are there similar "modes"
- other than major and minor - based around
the pentatonic (5-note) scale? e.g "pentatonic
Mixolydian"

Neil N

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Mar 10, 2003, 12:03:19 PM3/10/03
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What style, and what era, even what artist would you prefer?


Cheers,
Neil N.

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Neal Pollack

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Mar 10, 2003, 12:25:51 PM3/10/03
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Wow! As long as you're taking requests, I'd like to jump in here. How
'bout standards from the '40s and '50s? Cole Porter, Irving Berlin,
Billy Strayhorn, Harold Arlen; '60s samba and bossa nova--Antonio Carlos
Jobim.

Thanks,

Neal


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Edward G.

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Mar 10, 2003, 2:13:20 PM3/10/03
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'It's Too Late' - Carole King -- Phrygian
'My Cherie Amour' - Stevie Wonder - Mixolydian

That's how I play them, anyway.

Edward G.

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pound the evidence. When the law AND the evidence are against you, pound the
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MB

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Mar 10, 2003, 4:31:31 PM3/10/03
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Neil N wrote:

> What style, and what era, even what artist would you prefer?

I open to nearly all musical genres that I'm aware of and probably most
of those I'm not aware of.

I'm partial to older music but for the goal of learning, anything written within
the last 4,000 years would be OK....


MB

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Mar 10, 2003, 4:36:07 PM3/10/03
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Edward G wrote:

> 'It's Too Late' - Carole King -- Phrygian
> 'My Cherie Amour' - Stevie Wonder - Mixolydian
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> That's how I play them, anyway.

Thanks, Ed. You have helped me officially start my list.


Gregory Rochford

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Mar 10, 2003, 5:29:46 PM3/10/03
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'So What' - Miles Davis -- Dorian (right?)

One of those songs every bass player should know.

gr

Shamhat de Leon

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Mar 10, 2003, 6:15:24 PM3/10/03
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In article <3E6D11D9...@sbcglobal.net>,
Gregory Rochford <gregory...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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> 'So What' - Miles Davis -- Dorian (right?)
>
> One of those songs every bass player should know.

This is a very difficult tune to make compelling and entertaining. Every
time I hear it performed, it's relatively boring compared to other jazz
standards, and every time I've heard it played an a jam, someone has
gotten lost each time they went to Eb.

On the other hand, if you can pull it off, you're guaranteed 64 measures
of solo at the beginning and the end.

-Donna

Neil N

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Mar 10, 2003, 6:21:39 PM3/10/03
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Sure , it's called "The Real book"

No charge :^)

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Gregory Rochford

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Mar 10, 2003, 7:01:33 PM3/10/03
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I don't disagree, but he wanted a song to illustrate the use of modes,
and this is one! Another one mode song is 'Softly As in a
Morning Sunrise'.

best
gr

Tom Comber

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Mar 10, 2003, 6:37:33 PM3/10/03
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Check out Marcus Miller's version of it on his recent "Ozell Tapes" live
CD. Starts off fairly traditional, but then they funk it up. Good stuff.

Neil N

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Mar 10, 2003, 7:21:32 PM3/10/03
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Hmmm older music, songs are old nowadays in weeks aren't they?

From largely the rock world of the past twenty years or so...

Lydian : "Freewill" starts with a great lydian line
Also Simpsons theme song

Mixolydian: STP "Interstate" starts with a textbook Mixo riff

Dorian: super funky dorian melody: Average white band "pick up the pieces"

Natural Minor and Major: Almost all Christmas carols work great for
this...Examples,
Minor : God rest Ye Merry gentleman
Major: Jingle Bells
Both : We three Kings ( starts minor, then relative major for chorus)

Another Aeolian: "Crazy train" by Ozzy (also mods to relative major, I
wonder if Ozzy was caroling when he wrote that?)

Locrian : "Enter Sandman" is basically as Locrian as it gets

That is a start...

Phrygian i can't think of.


Cheers,
Neil N.


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Shamhat de Leon

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Mar 10, 2003, 7:33:49 PM3/10/03
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In article <3E6D21BD...@lasikadnetworkZEROSPAM.com>,
Tom Comber <t...@lasikadnetworkZEROSPAM.com> wrote:

> >>'So What' - Miles Davis -- Dorian (right?)
> >>
> >>One of those songs every bass player should know.
> >
> >
> > This is a very difficult tune to make compelling and entertaining. Every
> > time I hear it performed, it's relatively boring compared to other jazz
> > standards, and every time I've heard it played an a jam, someone has
> > gotten lost each time they went to Eb.
> >
> > On the other hand, if you can pull it off, you're guaranteed 64 measures
> > of solo at the beginning and the end.
> >
> > -Donna
>
>
>
> Check out Marcus Miller's version of it on his recent "Ozell Tapes" live
> CD. Starts off fairly traditional, but then they funk it up. Good stuff.

In case anyone else cares, "The Ozell Tapes" is listed as not available
until late April on Amazon, but thanks to someone's review comment I
found it on marcusmiller.com right now--and for a lower price, too.

-Donna

MB

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Mar 10, 2003, 8:49:27 PM3/10/03
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Gregory wrote:

> I don't disagree, but he wanted a song to illustrate the use of modes,
> and this is one! Another one mode song is 'Softly As in a
> Morning Sunrise'.

Thanks, yes - I'm not necessarily looking for songs I like - I really
just want to focus on listen to (and for) various modes. Every
song that serves as an example is OK, from Jingle Bells to
21st Century Schitzoid Man.

Also, per the reference to "one mode song", is it common to actually
change modes in a song?? in Jazz?


zoot

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Mar 10, 2003, 9:50:39 PM3/10/03
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:21:32 GMT, "Neil N" <Xdono...@rogers.com>
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>Phrygian i can't think of.

Windmills of Your Mind by Dusty Springfield

Zooty

Gary Rosen

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Mar 10, 2003, 11:38:31 PM3/10/03
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"MB" <m...@nemec.com> wrote in message news:Hgbba.34499$3D1.2126@sccrnsc01...

There are gazillions of songs that change from major ("Ionian") to
minor ("Aeolian") and back, or vice-versa. Not to throw cold water
on the whole idea, but I would say most of the time it is more
useful to learn songs in terms of their chord progressions rather
than worrying about modes. The exception is long one-chord
jams like "So What" which has already been mentioned a few times
here.

- Gary R.


Neil N

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Mar 10, 2003, 11:47:16 PM3/10/03
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: Thanks, yes - I'm not necessarily looking for songs I like - I really

: just want to focus on listen to (and for) various modes. Every
: song that serves as an example is OK, from Jingle Bells to
: 21st Century Schitzoid Man.

Hmmmmm.... ok enuff is enuff.

EVERY SONG IS AN EXAMPLE.

: Also, per the reference to "one mode song", is it common to actually


: change modes in a song?? in Jazz?

:

Yes and yes , it's fundamental to "jazz"


Cheers
Neil N.


jazzman

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Mar 13, 2003, 4:59:30 AM3/13/03
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I think you'll hear at least 5 modes used by the soloists in 'So What'.

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