Acme Low B-2 vs Eden D210XLT

Jeffrey Ong

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Jun 19, 2001, 12:41:07 PM6/19/01

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I have an Eden D210XLT (and an Eden WT400 Traveller head).

To me, the D210XLT sounds great, except when handling the B string. It
doesn't give out that "thump" gratification a 1x15 can. This contradicts
lots of reviews I've read about how good the D210XLT's bottom end is.

I've just read some write-ups and reviews about the Acme Low B-2. Most are
written by people who previously own high-end gear like Ampeg, SWR and Eden
and have since sold them and are happy with the Acme. Most also swear that
the Low B-2 gives a better low end than a 1x15.

My question - if the Acme is that happenin', why isn't it being associated
with big name bassists? Are there technical/sonic factors (like it being
power-hungry) that might contribute to that? From what I know, there are a
number of things that go well for the Low B-2, eg, it's cheaper and lighter
than the D210XLT.

Jeff

Kreso

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Jun 19, 2001, 3:09:57 PM6/19/01

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I have two Acme LowB2 boxes with QSC PLX2402 and they really sound great,
but on the open air or big halls you can't hear them and if you put them
loud they fart on low strings, but they really sound excellent. In the club
you're not sure is that sound only from Acme's or the PA is already on, and
you realized that's only Acme.
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Night Donkey Central

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Jun 19, 2001, 6:03:54 PM6/19/01

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Hey Jeff,
I own an old B4, and I love it. It is not fully punchy, but does not back
down from five string depth. It is very power hungry. I'm running a
1400mackie, with the ACME B4 and a generic 2x10 on top, and it's not really
running at 4ohm, more like six. It is a wall of bass though. If you go for a
B2, get two of them.
Get a good power amp, you should be running about 500/600 watts into each at
4ohm. Stack them on their ends and you'll have a nice wide dispersion of
bass.
Have you tried Euphonic Audio?

Good luck.

Mike Furlong
Night Donkey Central

and yes they are lighter, I almost ripped open my nutsack trying to lug a
peavey 4x10 upatairs the other day, and my ACME has never left me feeling
too spent.

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Brad Johnson

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Jun 19, 2001, 7:04:23 PM6/19/01

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What kind of bass are you using, Jeff.

I use a single D210XLT live and it kicks, especially with my fives. I had an
Acme Low B2 for about a month and to me it's forte was low end reproduction (to
a degree). I didn't like the sound of it as far as mids and highs. I use an AMP
BH-420, EQ set flat. Gets much louder than required.

For me the Eden sounded better. Punchier than the Acme, sounded more like a
bass guitar cab than a PA speaker. I use mine with several low B's (pre-Gibson
Tobias 5, Fender MIA Jazz Deluxe 5, Zon Legacy Standard fretless 5, Lakland
55-94, Elrick New Jazz Standard fretless 5, Surine Protocol 7, Clover BassTard
5). Never breaks up, easily gets punch, very articulate without sounding thin.

I can't imagine what's going on with yours.

Brad
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mark

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Jun 19, 2001, 7:19:49 PM6/19/01

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that's some arsenal there, buddy...
hard to make those basses sound bad, eh?
m

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Brad Johnson

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Jun 19, 2001, 8:12:27 PM6/19/01

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I just got lucky with the arsenal, Mark. I have more ;^) I just seem to be in
the right place at the right time... with sufficient funds :^) I mentioned them
mainly to show I've used my Eden cabs with a variety of basses...even a P type
(G&L SB1) that I didn't keep...and they always deliver. Recently I checked out
a small Epifani....when will it end? ;^)

I didn't like the way most of my basses sounded through my Acme...except for a
Yamaha TRB6II that sounded very good through it...and weak through my other
rigs. I had trouble consistently dialing in a pleasing sound with a Trace
Elliot rig so I use an amp I don't have to dial at all. I look back at my
tri-amp days and have to laugh at myself.

There are days when I'm not happy with the sound I expect from some of my
basses but I realize that's more on me than them. OTOH each has their own
nuances and to me that's the beauty of them.

Thanks,
Brad

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