eden cabs
Perron
which cab to buy for it. The amp is 400W rms in 4 ohms and 240W rms in
8 ohms. I was thinking of buying a 4 ohms cabinet because I can't afford
to buy two 8 ohms and I want the full power of the amp. Any suggestions?
I'm hesitating between an Eden D-410T and a D-212XLT. I know the D-410T
has 540W rms and the D-212XLT has 400W rms, but I saw on Eden's website
that the frequency response of the D-410T is "+/- 2db 80hz to 14khz,
-6db @ 50hz" and of the D-212XLT is "44 hz to 14 Khz +/- 2db". Is this
very significative? Since I play a lot of slapping on my 5-string bass,
should I go for one of these or another Eden cabinet? (Maybe the
D-410XLT even if it's a lot of money..! ) Thanks a lot for your help,
you guys are very helpful! Cya
Mark107
Go to the store and play thru a bunch of cabinets, side-by-side. I have a
WT400, love it. Bought a 410xlt, hated it. Let your ears decide, preferably
while still in the store with your money still in your pocket.
Yes, 4-ohms is the way to go. The WT 400 will cut a loud gig at 4 ohms, at 8
ohms, you will run out of headroom fast.
-Mark Dann
Michael Nelson
>Hi there, I own an Eden WT-400 Traveler Plus and I'm still not sure
>which cab to buy for it. The amp is 400W rms in 4 ohms and 240W rms in
>8 ohms. I was thinking of buying a 4 ohms cabinet because I can't afford
>to buy two 8 ohms and I want the full power of the amp. Any suggestions?
>I'm hesitating between an Eden D-410T and a D-212XLT. I know the D-410T
>has 540W rms and the D-212XLT has 400W rms, but I saw on Eden's website
>that the frequency response of the D-410T is "+/- 2db 80hz to 14khz,
>-6db @ 50hz" and of the D-212XLT is "44 hz to 14 Khz +/- 2db". Is this
>very significative? Since I play a lot of slapping on my 5-string bass,
>should I go for one of these or another Eden cabinet? (Maybe the
>D-410XLT even if it's a lot of money..! )
First, don't rule out an 8 ohm cabinet. The Eden D-210XLT and D-410XLT and
D-212XLT are all VERY efficient boxes, and I think you'll be suprised how
loud they'll go with 240 watts. And that leaves you the future option of
adding another 8 ohm cabinet should you want to. More on that later...
Personally, I think that if you're only gonna have one cab and can afford
it, either the D-410XLT or the D-212XLT would be the way to go. Mind you, I
haven't heard the 212, but Bob Gollihur sure seems to love his, and I
greatly respect his opinion (search Dejanews for his posts about it).
But are you sure you want to deal with the weight and the lack of
flexiblity? The D-410XLT weighs something like 98lbs... that's a major load
to hump. And the D-410T doesn't sound nearly as good as the XLT, to my
ears. Not nearly enough bottom end. I wouldn't use one without having an
18 or a 15 on the bottom... and then you've got even more weight to hump.
I originally had a WT-400 plus two D-210XLT cabinets. That combination of
those two 210XLTs has at least as much bottom as a 410XLT, possibly more.
But I wanted more bottom. Something about 10" speakers sounds to me like
there is something missing in the low end, no matter what the specs say.
So I sold one of the 210s and bought a D-118XL. WOW, did I ever get more
bottom! The 118XL is a subwoofer, and it sounds like one. There is
literally a stiff breeze blowing out of those four big rectangular ports
when you get the volume up. Talk about pantleg-flappin' bottom! I liked
that rig because of the flexibility. But I never really liked the D-210XLT
by itself. I guess I'm too much of a traditionalist (and I play country),
and I always felt there was something missing when just using the 210. So
I'd hump that big old 118 along. Magnificent sound, but a lot of shit to
lug. And you really can't use the 118 by itself, the frequency range is
pretty truncated at about 2.5KHz.
A month or so ago I sold the WT400 and bought an Eden Navigator preamp and a
QSC PLX-1602 power amp. The great Eden sound continued, but the rig was
even bigger and heavier.
After reading Pat Lyman's rave reviews of the D-115XLT and doing some email
correspondence with him about it, I bought one today. Took it over to the
practice studio where my rig is, and slid it in in place of the D-118XL and
gave it a high-volume workout. The D-115XLT has less extreme bottom end
than the 118, but still far more than the 210. And when I ran the 210
together with the 115 in stereo they complimented each other really nicely.
Each seems to fill in what the other lacks. And due to my traditional
taste, I REALLY like the sound of the D-115XLT all by itself. And it's LOUD.
I guess the point of all this long story is that I feel buying a 4 ohm
D-410T is a bad choice. It's big and heavy but doesn't have the bottom that
a D-410XLT has. But because it's 4 ohms, you can't add a different cab like
an 18 or a 15 to get a different sound... the WT-400 won't work into less
than 4 ohms.
So, I'd say that if you are bound and determined to get a 410, at least get
an 8 ohm D-410XLT so you can later add another cab with a different sound if
you want to. Personally, I'm really delighted with the 210/115 combination.
First gig with it will be Saturday night, so I'll know better after that.
Michael
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Michael Nelson San Francisco, CA nel...@seahunt.imat.com
Bassist for: "The Kountry Kays" mic...@kountrykays.com
Adam
been plenty loud enough at every gig I've played. If it needs to be much
louder than that, then there is usually a PA involved and that solves the
volume problem. I'm looking in the future to acquire either a 210XLT or the
Metro 210 Combo. I don't really like lugging the 410 around. I've got a
Civic and it's a pain in the ass(and back) to transport frequently. I would
definitely recommend the 8 ohm so you do have the option of adding another
cabinet when you need to. When I get my next piece(combo or 210) I plan to
take the 210 to rehearsals and small gigs. That'll be plenty for me. Hope
this helps.
Adam
Perron <perron....@videotron.ca> wrote in message
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> Hi there, I own an Eden WT-400 Traveler Plus and I'm still not sure
> which cab to buy for it. The amp is 400W rms in 4 ohms and 240W rms in
> 8 ohms. I was thinking of buying a 4 ohms cabinet because I can't afford
> to buy two 8 ohms and I want the full power of the amp. Any suggestions?
> I'm hesitating between an Eden D-410T and a D-212XLT. I know the D-410T
> has 540W rms and the D-212XLT has 400W rms, but I saw on Eden's website
> that the frequency response of the D-410T is "+/- 2db 80hz to 14khz,
> -6db @ 50hz" and of the D-212XLT is "44 hz to 14 Khz +/- 2db". Is this
> very significative? Since I play a lot of slapping on my 5-string bass,
> should I go for one of these or another Eden cabinet? (Maybe the