Hartke vs. Eden
Joan Tucher
Ok so I am tired of my current rig (we won't talk about that) and I want
a new one.
The trouble is which to get so I have narrowed my search to hartke/eden
which is
better? The eden 410xlt goes for about 900-1000 bucks and I have seen
the hartke
4.5XL for about 650-700 bucks. I want to know the major differences on
these two cabinets. I have heard enough form high pressure commission
salesmen, and I really want to know the differnces from other players.
thanx
Jason
Michael Lippe
You did not mention the amp you want to drive the cabs with. In any case, I
think the Eden is a far superior rig. The tone flexibility and general
warmth is just plain better on the Eden. I find the Hartkes to be real edgy
sounding, almost shrill. You simply can't beat the tonal range and depth
with great highs that Eden has. Just my opinion.
--
Mike >:-)_~
"...and that's all I need...well, maybe that too..."
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John Roesli
Concur,
I played the crap out of one of the 2x10 Eden cabinets a few weeks
back. Amp was also Eden, but not sure of model. Barring religious
devotion to anything material, the Eden gear is the best I have heard
in some time.
John R.
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MrBazoo
>The trouble is which to get so I have narrowed my search to hartke/eden
>which is
>better?
Eden makes some fantastic high power cabinets (D410XLT - 700W RMS). The Eden
sound is punchy, completely managable, and capable of withstanding/producing
any sound you can dream of without distorting. FYI, I am running ~400 watts RMS
into each D410XLT cabinet, and we rarely run a direct line in a show from my
amp, no problem. From personal experience, I have blown a Hartke cabinet from
time to time. But, maybe I did not have enough cabinets running at the time.
My 2 cents...
Eric Moesle
I don't think you can go wrong with either, at least so long as you stay
away from the Hartke "Transporter" series.
I own a Hartke 4.5 XL, a Hartke 210XL, and a few weeks ago bought the Hartke
215 XL - use them in various configurations depending on the gig. Have
never had a problem with them, and have used the 4.5 heavily for five years
now.
I've played the Edens in stores - very nice, and do sound a little warmer
than the Hartke's, and they have the gain limiting diode's, which Hartke
does not, which protects the unit from damage by absorbing some of the
excess energy when needed. IMO, all high-end cabinets should have this
feature.
All that being said, I still prefer the Hartkes over the Eden. I like the
bright attack of the Hartke's for live performance - the extra presence
really helps it cut through aloud band without the need to kick up the
treble, avoiding harshness.
But probably the biggest reason I like them is that they stay VERY
consistent in differing weather conditions. From cold to warm, dry to
humid, they're character stays the same. I used to use JBL drivers, and
they sounded "mushy" when subjected to extreme humidity and instant temp.
changes (i.e. out of a two day sleep in the back of a truck in winter,
directly into a warm club with only minutes to being played). I took the
Hartke's to the Caribbean, and they sounded EXACTLY the same as they did in
Ohio just prior. Had a buddy there at the same time with a Peavey 4x10, who
complained that the extreme humidity turned his sound into mush, and that he
could literally "feel" the moistness on his paper-coned drivers.
Overall, I still feel the better quality units are the Edens. From what
I've heard, Eden is pretty easy to reach for replacement parts should the
need arise. Hartke, on the other hand, is very protective about issuing
replacement speakers, as it doesn't want its drivers in other people's
cabinets. Makes it a bit troublesome to get a replacement driver in a
reasonable amount of time.
Both are excellent units. MOST IMPORTANTLY, play through them both, and see
which one's sound characteristics you like most. If possible, try them out
at a gig under the same sonic conditions you will typically be playing in.
What will sound good in your home will sound differently on a stage with a
loud band.
Best of luck.
Tom Hester
Eden, absolutely. I just wish I could afford such luxury.
The Hartke XL series is fine, but the eden just knocks the pants off
anything produced by Hartke. Just make sure the cabinet you buy can handle
the wattage coming out of your amp. I owned a Hartke 4x10XL cab about four
years ago and ended up blowing a speaker every so often. And by God, stay
away from the transporter series!
Joan Tucher wrote:
> Ok so I am tired of my current rig (we won't talk about that) and I want
> a new one.
> The trouble is which to get so I have narrowed my search to hartke/eden
> which is
Alex Carter
Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a Yamaha E1010 chorus/delay
unit?
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t.t.f.n
Alex
Barry_...@bc.sympatico.ca
> Eden without a doubt. I bought it because it sounds truly better then any other bass amp on the mark. I've been playing for a living for 11 years. Eden's best I've heard. I got the 4'10 abd the 2'10. A friend wanted to trade his hartke 4'10 for my 2'10. No chance. HOPE IT HELPS.
Bar