Gary Upton, (Upton Basses) stop stealing my work!!
Bob Gollihur
issue, but received no response, and the site remains. Perhaps putting
the issue out in the open will cause him to do the right thing.
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Dear Gary -
I am shocked and hurt to find out that you are copying the content of
my Double Bass Links Page at
http://www.gollihur.com/kkbass/basslink.html and posting them,
verbatim, on your new www.2xbass.com web site. These links are lifted,
word for word, including my personal comments, from my Links page at
http://www.gollihur.com/kkbass/basslink.html (mirrored at
http://www.urbbob.com/basslink.html), as are the rest of your entries.
I cannot believe you would do this and just don't know what else to
do- I would prefer to avoid calling upon legal remedies, so perhaps a
public plea will set things right.
I started sharing my favorite Double Bass sites on the net in 1996,
growing it to over 700 entries, and I have put countless hours (I'm
probably into weeks and months now!) into maintaining it and
responding to the many email cries for help it continually generates.
I have written and coded every word into HTML by hand. Over time I
have added some adverts for my own stuff, to help justify the many
hours I put into it to myself; after all, I list hundreds of other
businesses that also do what I do, including your own bass business. I
have never received an email commenting on the ads-- except I do
remember your email asking if you could place an advertisement on my
site. I guess if I'd accepted an Upton Bass advertisement, your site
would not be necessary. I have no business or personal rivalry with
you, Gary, and no desire to start one. Remove this rival site you
created by copying my work.
The content of my site is copyrighted, and beyond of the violation of
law, it is an ethical violation I find far worse. My hard-earned
resource is there for everyone to use for eight years now, freely
accessible and mirrored on two servers, and there is no need for you
to duplicate it for your own obvious purposes.
Gary Upton, (Upton Basses) remove my work from your site!
Bob Gollihur
Eclectic Bass, personal bass page -
http://www.eclecticbass.com/bass.html
My Double Bass LINKS page -
http://www.gollihur.com/kkbass/basslink.html (mirrored at
http://www.urbbob.com/basslink.html)
Wordsmith Associates Music- http://www.urbbob.com
PS: Appropriating the good name of the longtime 2xbass listserv group
for your own commerical use is in bad taste IMHO.
Todd H.
>
> The content of my site is copyrighted, and beyond of the violation of
> law, it is an ethical violation I find far worse. My hard-earned
> resource is there for everyone to use for eight years now, freely
> accessible and mirrored on two servers, and there is no need for you
> to duplicate it for your own obvious purposes.
>
> Gary Upton, (Upton Basses) remove my work from your site!
Yikes. Good for you in asserting your copyright. His stealing of
your work is pretty egregious.
Folks who copy things verbatim without consent (and especially without
consent and without crediting the original author!) are in clear
violation of law and ethics.
Gary, you should voluntarily remove your plagiarism and copyright
violation before you move Bob to asserting his legal copyright (and
undeniably winning).
Best Regards,
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TDodge
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> I sent this email to Gary at In...@uptonbass.com hoping to resolve this
> issue, but received no response, and the site remains. Perhaps putting
> the issue out in the open will cause him to do the right thing.
>
today. If we can get within 120 ft of this guy, we
can severely injure him with large vegetables!
What a low thing for anyone to do.
I don't intend to make light of the theft of such a
body of work. You're the go to guy for URB, and
everyone here has known that for years.
Brian Running
> today. If we can get within 120 ft of this guy, we
> can severely injure him with large vegetables!
> What a low thing for anyone to do.
> I don't intend to make light of the theft of such a
> body of work. You're the go to guy for URB, and
> everyone here has known that for years.
120 feet! 120 feet?! Come on, T, I can throw a pumpkin that far. I'm a
little disappointed. Tell me you're not going to be satisfied with just 120
feet.
James L
Here's Gary's info in case anyone's interested:
upton bass
gary upton
16 mary street
griswold, CT 06351
US
Phone: 860-334-6458
"Bob Gollihur" <b...@gollihur.com> wrote in message
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Klokster
I say we kick his ass.
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Dude
I'll pay you $100 if you can do that...not a gourd but a typical sized pumpkin.
Now if you said that you could blow one out your ass 120 feet I'd believe you
but not "throw".
Steve "Dude" Barr
http://www.TheDudePit.com
John Templeton
"James L" <u...@ftc.gov> wrote in message
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> We should all send emails kindly suggesting he remove it.
>
> Here's Gary's info in case anyone's interested:
>
> upton bass
> gary upton
> 16 mary street
> griswold, CT 06351
> US
> Phone: 860-334-6458
>
>
> >
> > I am shocked and hurt to find out that you are copying the content of
> > my Double Bass Links Page at
> > http://www.gollihur.com/kkbass/basslink.html and posting them,
> > verbatim, on your new www.2xbass.com web site. These links are lifted,
> > word for word, including my personal comments, from my Links page at
> > http://www.gollihur.com/kkbass/basslink.html (mirrored at
> > http://www.urbbob.com/basslink.html), as are the rest of your entries.
> > I cannot believe you would do this and just don't know what else to
> > do- I would prefer to avoid calling upon legal remedies, so perhaps a
> > public plea will set things right.
> >
>SNIP
> > Gary Upton, (Upton Basses) remove my work from your site!
> >
> > Bob Gollihur
> > Eclectic Bass, personal bass page -
> > http://www.eclecticbass.com/bass.html
> > My Double Bass LINKS page -
> > http://www.gollihur.com/kkbass/basslink.html (mirrored at
> > http://www.urbbob.com/basslink.html)
> > Wordsmith Associates Music- http://www.urbbob.com
> >
> > PS: Appropriating the good name of the longtime 2xbass listserv group
> > for your own commerical use is in bad taste IMHO.
>
Perhaps you should set something up that will deter these invasions. Ask
around, I'm sure there's some little treat that you could embed in your code
that would make his computer unhappy.
DGDevin
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>
> Perhaps you should set something up that will deter these invasions. Ask
> around, I'm sure there's some little treat that you could embed in your
code
> that would make his computer unhappy.
Ummmm, there are some legal problems with that, or so I've been told. Ditto
with heavy weights set up to fall and crush burglars, bloody law won't let
you use those either.
But a cease and desist letter handed to one, that tends to ruin the
recipient's digestion, and faced with the likelihood of losing in court and
coughing up a bunch of money.... With a good case, a contingency lawyer in
the violator's home state is easy enough to find too, don't even have to be
out of pocket much.
Boom
>recipient's digestion, and faced with the likelihood of losing in court and
>coughing up a bunch of money.... With a good case, a contingency lawyer in
>the violator's home state is easy enough to find too, don't even have to be
>out of pocket much.
Good luck getting a lawyer to handle a case like that. What are the
damages? Someone's going to click on this copycat website more than
the original? No lawyer would ever touch it.
I took a look at both sites and the one guy has some legit beefs. But
it's not going to hold up in court because it's not similar enough and
the guy can easily say he sourced the links himself. And even if it
did hold up, the damages are so minor that the only ones to make any
money would be the lawyers. I think the only thing he can do is
badmouth the guy, which he seems to be doing.
Nigel Goodwin
polite email resolved the problem, but my next course of action would
have been a complaint to his web host and ISP.
Have you tried that?.
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Nigel Goodwin
C.Farmer Ltd.
Matlock
DOGGIE104
>From: Klokster robis...@loser.net
>Date: 10/1/2003 10:18 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3F7B98ED...@loser.net>
We have to find him first. ron
Brian Running
> for all the work, but it has sown the seeds for an
> adult sized trebuchet. Some of my cohorts are talking
> about a serious machine. The competition is Saturday;
> I'll post the results. (if we win)
That's what I wanted to hear -- I know you're a torque and horsepower guy,
those "seeds" will be sprouting soon.
Todd H.
> He may have based his initial lists on yours, but that just the
> way you do those sorts of things (it's called research :))
The comments and the organization of the links are what are pretty
obvious...
> So I don't think that it's quite as bad as you are making
> it oiut to be.
How much time/resources have you spent creating intellectual property
on the 'net only to have someone else inhale all of it and relabel it
as their own original work? I'm guessing "none."
Jordan
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Bottom posting at its worst!!
Bob Gollihur
hope and expect we can continue as friends. He indicates that he did
not have any malicious intent. He apologized and the 2xbass.com site
was taken down.
As far as I am concerned, the matter is closed. Please return your
seats and tray tables to their fully upright position and resume
business as usual.
And thanks for your support.
Bob Gollihur
Eclectic Bass, personal bass page -
http://www.eclecticbass.com/bass.html
My Double Bass LINKS page - http://www.urbbob.com/basslink.html
DGDevin
"Boom" <m...@nnn.com> wrote in message
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> Good luck getting a lawyer to handle a case like that. What are the
> damages? Someone's going to click on this copycat website more than
> the original? No lawyer would ever touch it.
I know a fellow who had the same problem, but he had embedded ownership
indicators in the material the other website "borrowed," and since it was a
commercial venture, he got his lawyer on it and the other site took down his
material pretty fast.
DGDevin
news:qHk5nzHbm$e$Ew...@cfarmerltd.co.uk...
> I had a problem where someone copied a large section of my website, a
> polite email resolved the problem, but my next course of action would
> have been a complaint to his web host and ISP.
>
> Have you tried that?.
Good point, if the ISP thinks they're going to be dragged into a copyright
case, they'll probably take action, most ISPs have copyright provisions in
their terms of service.