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feadhel

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Apr 7, 2002, 11:31:04 AM4/7/02
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I saw on another thread about reading notation that there is such a thing as
a chord chart -- what does it look like and how do you read it?

Somebody hep me!

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Todd H.

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Apr 7, 2002, 1:35:25 PM4/7/02
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"feadhel" <fea...@SPAMHATERcomcast.net> writes:
> I saw on another thread about reading notation that there is such a
> thing as a chord chart -- what does it look like and how do you read
> it?

They come in various forms. In my book, it's a mix lyric sheets with
numbers on them where the chords change, or just handwritten sheets
of paper with the chords written

Intro:
B A G F#

Verse D vamp

Chorus:
B A G F#

Verse

Chorus

Solo
Verse
CHorus

End: [chords or lick described somehow]

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jazzman

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Apr 7, 2002, 2:25:04 PM4/7/02
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It is just a map of the song using measures/stave.

They will typically show the chord changes and where the changes occur in a
measure. Sometimes you'll see unison riffs written out, too.


Jim

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eadg

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Apr 7, 2002, 2:59:07 PM4/7/02
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feadhel <fea...@SPAMHATERcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> I saw on another thread about reading notation that there is such a thing
as
> a chord chart -- what does it look like and how do you read it?

They come in many forms so it's never specific.If it's a piece of paper (or
a beer mat) and it's got a sequence of chords on it ie: Em / / / Am / / / Em
/ / / B7 / / / Em / / / etc, it's a chord chart.
The idea is to help the bass player to expand on the basic information
he/she is given,providing said bass player understands chords that
is,otherwise you could end up playing root notes all the time like Adam
Clayton and bore ppl to death.

>
> Somebody hep me!

I'll lend you an 'l',that's help ;-)

SR

Todd H.

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Apr 7, 2002, 3:07:01 PM4/7/02
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Your mom <Iam...@this.address> writes:
> And sometimes they are just lyrics with Chords written above them, no
> indication of time or measures.
>
> Those are more of less worthless if you don't already know the song.

It beats nothing. At least in the rock/blues context covers that are
done people have usually at least heard, so they'll kinda know the
"when" but not the "to what" of the chord changes

> I have one band leader who is good for laying these kind of charts
> on me....anyone have a good suggestion on how to break him of it?

I hand out CD's with the tunes on em. If I accompany that with a
chord chart (as I usually do), I feel like I'm going above and beyond.
I'd be kinda put off if someone wanted a whole scored
measure-for-measure chart from me.

Now originals, on the other hand, I agree--lyrics based chord charts
certainly don't describe all you need!

Best Regards,

Todd H.

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Apr 7, 2002, 5:24:14 PM4/7/02
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Chef Boyardee <Iam...@this.address> writes:
> Oh, and I left out that this is mostly original or unpublished
> music...
>
> I'd RATHER just get the CD (or a guitar only worktape) than just be
> handed a chord chart ...Armed with a CD I can lay down a number chart
> for myself fairly fast. My situation is the opposite with this
> cat...I get a chart and no tape. I usually translate with a pencil as
> we go....

Agreed. Yeah, if it's original and there are split measures odd
meters and stuff, you've got document the whole thing or just work off
a recording. No argument there!

Jón Fairbairn

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Apr 7, 2002, 6:38:40 PM4/7/02
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"eadg" <acebas...@ntlworld.com> writes:
> feadhel <fea...@SPAMHATERcomcast.net> wrote in message
> >
> > Somebody hep me!
>
> I'll lend you an 'l',that's help ;-)

I thought he just wanted to be put in the know. Hep cats go bananas,
don't you know.

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Hawkeye8th

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Apr 7, 2002, 7:35:17 PM4/7/02
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>From: "eadg"

>The idea is to help the bass player to expand on the basic information
>he/she is given,providing said bass player understands chords that
>is

An interesting comment.....especially considering the recent discussion re: the
importance of learning guitar before bass.

Hawk

AmyAmy4734

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Apr 8, 2002, 12:00:38 AM4/8/02
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You don't have to learn guitar to understand chord structure. In fact, it is
probably easier to visualize chords if you learn them on a piano.

aks

>Do you have to know guitar to know chord structure?
>
>Anyone want to give me guitar lessons?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


John Shaughnessy

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Apr 8, 2002, 2:58:27 AM4/8/02
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I played a big money Jewish wedding gig last year. Being a Gentile, I am
vaguely familiar with the Horah(?). About 30 seconds before the gig starts,
the band leader hands me his "Jewish" book. He tells me "Yeah we do a medley
of about 10 tunes. Oh by the way you know Hebrew goes from right to left,
don't you?" I open the book as he counts off the first tune, and the whole
freakin' thing is in Hebrew!

Needless to say, the charts were less than worthless; I just followed the
guitar players hands and root/5th-ed my ass off.
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Clive -

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Apr 8, 2002, 5:17:41 AM4/8/02
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Speaking as a jazzer who does a fair few depping gigs with complete
strangers
and playing tunes I've never played before...chord charts are indispensible.
All the bands I've ever worked with on this basis use chord charts for the
rhythm
section parts.
They provide the basic map of the tune and it's up to the player to decide
to best route
to take, using experience in putting lines together and listening to the
main chordal
instrument. Being able to see the piano player's left hand helps too!
For a newbie it is difficult to get your head round until you start to build
a knowledge
base of lines.
For covers etc learn the lines from the CD and relate to the chord
chart...it soon starts
to make sense.

Clive
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> On Sun, 07 Apr 2002 18:25:04 GMT, "jazzman" <jaz...@attbi.com> wrote:
>
> >It is just a map of the song using measures/stave.
> >
> >They will typically show the chord changes and where the changes occur in
a
> >measure. Sometimes you'll see unison riffs written out, too.
> >
> >
> >Jim
>

> And sometimes they are just lyrics with Chords written above them, no
> indication of time or measures.
>
> Those are more of less worthless if you don't already know the song.
>

TAPKAE

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Apr 8, 2002, 5:28:39 AM4/8/02
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John Shaughnessy believes this old wives tale:

> I played a big money Jewish wedding gig last year. Being a Gentile, I am
> vaguely familiar with the Horah(?). About 30 seconds before the gig starts,
> the band leader hands me his "Jewish" book. He tells me "Yeah we do a medley
> of about 10 tunes. Oh by the way you know Hebrew goes from right to left,
> don't you?" I open the book as he counts off the first tune, and the whole
> freakin' thing is in Hebrew!
>
> Needless to say, the charts were less than worthless; I just followed the
> guitar players hands and root/5th-ed my ass off.


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eadg

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Apr 8, 2002, 9:05:17 AM4/8/02
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Chef Boyardee <Iam...@this.address> wrote in message
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> Do you have to know guitar to know chord structure?
>
> Anyone want to give me guitar lessons?

Learning guitar is'nt necessary (but I did anyhoo),piano is just as good.The
main thing is to be able to recognise what chords are by ear as well as by
sight.
I had a software programme called (I think) Guitar Calculator Pro that would
be a help in listening to different chord voicings.You just picked the chord
you wanted to listen to and pressed play...voila!

SR

Just done a google on 'Guitar calculator Pro' and got the site.The addy was
missing so I could'nt post the link,sorry.Give it a go,it's worth the $20.


Roland Woditsch

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Apr 8, 2002, 9:50:23 AM4/8/02
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what will you do if someone give you a
chinese book :-))

Roland

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Sam W.

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Apr 10, 2002, 4:51:44 AM4/10/02
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> Just done a google on 'Guitar calculator Pro' and got the
site.The addy was
> missing so I could'nt post the link,sorry.Give it a
go,it's worth the $20.
>

http://www.guitarcalc.com/

Sam


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