Drugs In The Music Industry
Jon Best
RichboyTP wrote:
>
> Shutup. You sound like some 10 year old kid saying "NO! NO! DRUGS ARE BAD!" I
> smoke pot, and many of the things you said are myths. Pot does not kill brain
> cells. Period. Pot makes people excel at music and creativity is also very
> high when you are smoking. I do think its stupid to show up at a studio
> stoned, though.
Hmm. Pot does kill brain cells, just not as many as alcohol or a number
of other drugs. And, yes, there are a great number of myths about pot,
but the fact is, it's harmful to your health. Maybe less than other
drugs, but don't paint it all rosy. I smoke sometimes, and I support
legalization, but come on- it's not the perfect drug. As for
creativity, I think it can loosen you up to be more likely to express
what creativity you have, but just as often I think it just makes people
believe they are being brilliantly creative. :)
Jon Best
FASLTAFF
Dave
> Hmm. Pot does kill brain cells, just not as many as alcohol or a
> number
> of other drugs. And, yes, there are a great number of myths about
> pot,
> but the fact is, it's harmful to your health. Maybe less than other
> drugs, but don't paint it all rosy. I smoke sometimes, and I support
> legalization, but come on- it's not the perfect drug. As for
> creativity, I think it can loosen you up to be more likely to express
>
> what creativity you have, but just as often I think it just makes
> people
> believe they are being brilliantly creative. :)
>
> Jon Best
> FASLTAFF
I can tell musician drug stories for hours. Some highlights include a
guitarist classmate in high school who did heroin, got AIDS, and died
before the general public had any idea what AIDS was. I was in a awful
wedding band where the bandleader kept everyone around by feeding them
coke after each gig. I left that band to join another where the
guitarist would cut lines on the PA speakers between sets. Another was
dealing out the window behind the stage during the set. Etc., etc.
I do not play with individuals who do drugs. It may limit who I play
with, but everyone knows I won't tolerate this childish behavior.
8^) Dave
Dave
RichboyTP wrote:
> BTW, I agree with the part on alcoholism. My dad is an ex-alcoholic,
> and i know
> that is must have been pretty devastating for you, especially the
> guilt you
> must have felt.
A guitarist friend of mine died of alcoholism.
8^) Dave
Dave
Kent Crow wrote:
> On 7 Oct 1997, RichboyTP wrote:
>
> > Shutup. You sound like some 10 year old kid saying "NO! NO! DRUGS
> ARE BAD!" I
> > smoke pot, and many of the things you said are myths. Pot does not
> kill brain
> > cells. Period. Pot makes people excel at music and creativity is
> also very
> > high when you are smoking. I do think its stupid to show up at a
> studio
> > stoned, though.
> >
> > Tim
This musician grew up with many pot smoking individuals. Now at the33, I
can assure you that pot definitely affects the brain. The individuals I
know that have been smoking pot for 15-20 years are adolescent in their
behavior and outlooks on life.
8^) Dave
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In article <19971007212...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
rich...@aol.com (RichboyTP) wrote:
> Shutup. You sound like some 10 year old kid saying "NO! NO! DRUGS ARE BAD!" I
> smoke pot, and many of the things you said are myths. Pot does not kill brain
> cells. Period. Pot makes people excel at music and creativity is also very
> high when you are smoking. I do think its stupid to show up at a studio
> stoned, though.
>
> Tim
You don't sound too much smarter, Tim. The fact is, weed hits everyone
differently. I have many dopehead friends who I knew before they began
smoking, and it has made them stupid, irritating, and anything but
creative. I also know a few people who are at their musical best when
they're doped up. The only sure thing is that it's nobody's place to tell
anyone else how to live, including whether or not to smoke pot.
--
Please refrain from breeding.
~Ricardo
RIGHT ON DAVE, Why would a person kill themselves before their time?
Drugs and Alchohol are not cool!
~Ricardo http://dev.scoop.com:8080
~Ricardo
BMinc wrote:
>
> *Public Service Announcement* - Sorry, but I've got to get this off my chest.
>
> Maybe it's me and I just need to vent, but probably not. When you reach a
> certain level in music, you're supposed to be a professional; you would think
> that people who have record deals (and those on their way to getting one)
> would have at least some idea how to organize their own affairs and maybe get
> through the day with their shit somewhat together. Especially when they, or
> worse yet, someone else who backs their project, is about to pay some serious
> money to hire a studio and make a recording. Yet time after time musicians
> show up at the studio stoned. And while this is pretty irresponsible
> behavior, it doesn't even begin to compare with what goes on at the clubs.
> If I run a label and I sign your band, I'm going to be investing way more
> time and money in your career than you can probably begin to imagine. I don't
> expect you to repay me by running around in a haze of pot smoke (or any other
> kind of smoke) screwing things up. It's not good for your career and it's not
> good for you and it's not good for me. It's just not good for anybody. And
> do you think that engineers who have spent years studying for electronics
> degrees and refining their craft appreciate the opportunity to inhale your
> sidestream smoke and kill their precious braincells? Do you think your A&R
> guy is going to be happy when s/he finds out that your band is splitting up
> because everyone in it is too apathetic and baked to actually write songs
> anymore? The point is, there is a greater cost involved with getting high
> than you might at first think
> Alcohol and drugs are killing our industry. Think about it - how often
> has your favorite singer OD'ed? Sometimes people brag about it like it's
> cool. With the world as screwed up as it is, couldn't we focus our efforts
> and resources a little more effectively than this? If every addict (or
> recreational user) in pro audio quit for just a couple of months and pooled
> all the money they were wasting on drugs and booze into a benefit fund, we
> wouldn't need Farm Aid concerts. If each member of your local small town band
> put the same money aside in a band account and let their brains de-fog for a
> while, they would see that they actually do have enough spare cash lying
> around to release a CD, or at least to fix the van and get to their next gig.
> Don't think this could actually work? Try it sometime - a little personal
> discipline can go a long way. Well, right about now somebody out there in
> cyberspace is reading this disinterestedly with a joint or a beer in their
> hand and having a really good laugh thinking about what a total geek I must
> be. Well, go right on laughing, the next paragraph is for you.
> There was a guy named Jerome singing backup on a CD I produced recently.
> He was an independent contractor with a group of backup singers that was a
> kind of a modern doo-wop outfit. He was an excellent singer with a great
> voice (as were the other musicians) and their whole sound was really
> happening. The group was hired and we went into the studio. I was a little
> annoyed when they showed up late, but I dealt with it and chalked it up to bad
> directions. The session went OK, and we got some good takes in spite of some
> of the vocals being a little out of control. The next session they were also
> late. In addition, they were also unprepared with their vocal arrangements
> (which was kind of their department because they as a group had been given
> creative control over this area so that their "sound" would go down on the
> record). I wasn't even sure if the tape we gave them to work from had ever
> been listened to, and this time Jerome's singing was somewhat more erratic
> than the first session, but overall not that bad. So I (and the solo artist
> who had hired both me and Jerome's singers) dealt with it. When the session
> was over, the artist and I began to notice the Bud bottles lying around in the
> bushes outside the studio. They were the BIG ones, not the regular size.
> Jerome had been taking numerous breaks during the session and now we knew why.
> Naturally, we weren't too keen on having Jerome back for more sessions but I
> think he ended up singing for us one more time before the mixdown phase of the
> project commenced. In the end, his group definitely lost opportunities and
> work because of the drinking. I felt bad for them, because it wasn't really
> their fault, but of course there was nothing I could do about it, and by now
> we had decided it was time to stop dealing with it. A couple of months went
> by and I got pretty absorbed in the many details of producing the record. You
> can really get lost in those things at times and not pay that much attention
> to the outside world. Well, one day I got shocked back to reality by a phone
> call from the solo artist. He told me that Jerome had recently died of
> medical complications associated with alcoholism.
>
> Any thoughts from anyone out there would be appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Douglas W. Craig
> President
> Bewildering Music, Inc.
>
> bm...@aol.com
> http://members.aol.com/bminc/homepage.htm
Thank you for this grand introspective on Drugs and Alcohol, not the
stuff made for man or woman... God Bless you Mr.Craig...
My band, "Manskinny and the Big Boys" are drug and Alcohol free,
dispite what the pictures show, budwiser glasses on the stage, there
truely was and always will be water or coke (soda kind).
~Ricardo See us at: http://dev.scoop.com:8080
John Ginnings
A new scarey statistic for all who smoke pot, your 10x more likely to
kill yourself after prolonged use of Pot. The THC builds up in your brain
and starts affecting your memory then for long time smokers creates a
sort of semi-dillusional state. Like all mind altering drugs it's a false
feeling like when you trip LSD what happens after your trip? You feel
numb and sometimes can't think it just depends on how it was made. Long
term affects and effects are detremental to you. I'm not trying to upset
anyone who uses Pot for spiritual guidance or recreation.It's just that
these are well known facts
and I speak from experience and education. But in truth it is your choice
no matter what.
DBY
Let's face it. Nothing beats a super-charged cup of nitro joe to get the
creative juices flowing!