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Fender Roc Pro 700

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Phil Allison

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Jun 26, 2010, 11:09:45 PM6/26/10
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** Hi,

just been looking at the insides of a Fender Roc Pro 700 SS combo.

It had a nasty problem that caused intermittent low volume - traced to
overheating 16 volt zener diodes and scorched tracks in the low voltage PSU.
Sorted that out by mounting the zeners on a tag strip supported off the PCB
and wiring them back to the appropriate spots.

When first testing the amp afterwards, it seemed the "Tube Drive" channel
was dead - then it suddenly came good for no reason. This process was
repeated each time I switched the amp off for a minute or two and back on.

Then the penny dropped, there was a *time delay* built into the amp that
mutes THAT channel for about 25 to 30 seconds after switch on. I can see
it on the schem built around U3A.

Not a word about it in the owner's manual.

The deliberate time delay has to do with the 12AX7 tube's operating
characteristics - plus the fact it is used in diode mode rather than
triode.

Very cunning of Fender.


.... Phil


WB

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Jun 27, 2010, 8:26:14 AM6/27/10
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On 6/26/2010 10:09 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
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> Very cunning of Fender.
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Big Fucking deal.

You never say a nice thing about anyone here
then you post this useless turd of information.


Phil Allison

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Jun 27, 2010, 10:03:20 AM6/27/10
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"Wanker Bullshit Artist "

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>> Very cunning of Fender.
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> Big Fucking deal.

** Shame you deleted the whole context -

must all be waaaaayyy over your thick, pointy fuckwit head.


> You never say a nice thing about anyone here ...


** Fraid that is not any kinda obligation on posters.

Cos this NG is utterly fucked with brain dead trolls.

Like you.


> then you post this useless turd of information.


** Not one tiny bit useless if you are a practising service tech OR you
have even the slightest interest in the subtler points of design relating to
commercial guitar amps OR you have a fucking clue of any kind.

Leaves brain dead retards like you right out.

And all guitar players.

Wot a boring cunt you are - WB

.... Phil

WB

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Jun 27, 2010, 11:48:51 AM6/27/10
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*plonk*

Hook, line, and sinker.

I was right on. That was an easy point to prove.

Phil Allison

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Jun 27, 2010, 10:15:09 PM6/27/10
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Wanker Bullshit Artist "

Like you.

And all guitar players.

Piss off.


.... Phil

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