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What amp head did Carlos Santana use at Woodstock?

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Robert Poss

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Aug 5, 2003, 11:31:10 PM8/5/03
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Just saw a film clip from Woodstock for the first time in many years. I
noticed that Carlos Santana was plugged into an amp head that looked like a
GBX or a Jordan or a Standel or something a bit unusual. It wasn't just a
rectangular box shape, and clearly not a Fender, Acoustic, Sunn, etc.
Anyone know what head this was? (Just curious. Though I think his tone has
never been as good as it was with that SG Special and that amp....)

R.P.

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RICK12DR

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Aug 6, 2003, 3:42:57 AM8/6/03
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>Subject: What amp head did Carlos Santana use at Woodstock?
>From: Robert Poss rmp...@pipeline.com

I always assumed Carlos was using like 3 or 4 Fender Twins, with Altec 12s in
them.
No doubt he had them modded heavily...

Gtski

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Aug 6, 2003, 7:12:09 AM8/6/03
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"Robert Poss" <rmp...@pipeline.com> wrote in message
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Check that film out again and notice how stoned he was.... and how
he kept those amp JUST on the VERGE of feedback....
to me, that is one of his *trademarks*....

IMMHO the 'original' woodstock film is a "must-see" for new bands...
It's an education in-and-of-itself....

gtski


Teleologist

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Aug 6, 2003, 8:25:00 AM8/6/03
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I don't know what he used at Woodstock, but I saw them at the Kenetic
Playground in Chicago about that same time and he was using 2 Twin
Reverbs each with a Dual Showman bottom as an extension. He played the
SG all night and they sounded great - about the loudest band I've ever
heard! Santana was opening for Led Zepplein at that gig and when Zep
came on the volume dropped considerably! Page was using 2 Solid State
Acoustics(the black/blue ones with the horns on top) and he sounded
great too - course we were pretty stoned by then....

The Kenetic Playground was a converted theatre/ballroom that was roughly
square with a high ceiling. The band I was in at the time played there a
number of times and the place had decent acoustics - 5-6 on my Dual
Showman was plenty to fill the place and you didn't need reverb. After
the Sanatana/Zep show, they condemned the balcony because the Acoustic
Bass amps John Paul Jones was using(2 of them) shook it so bad they
feared it might collapse if a lot of people were up there.


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Joe

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Aug 6, 2003, 11:26:15 AM8/6/03
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Robert Poss <rmp...@pipeline.com> wrote in message news:<BB55EEB7.1BD6C%rmp...@pipeline.com>...


I believe it was a early Gallien Krueger solid state amp that he
bought specifically to play at Woodstock and/or other large outdoor
festivals.

tomkatf

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Aug 6, 2003, 11:56:14 AM8/6/03
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Robert Poss

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Aug 6, 2003, 12:25:25 PM8/6/03
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On 8/6/03 11:26 AM, in article
3ea84bc6.03080...@posting.google.com, "Joe"
<casset...@aol.com> wrote:

> Gallien Krueger


Yup. Thanks.

1969: The GMT 226A, the most powerful amp of its day, goes to Woodstock with
Santana.

http://www.gallien.com/ABOUT_GK/Innovations/innovations.html

Ednovak

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Aug 7, 2003, 2:01:33 AM8/7/03
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>The Kenetic Playground was a converted theatre/ballroom that was roughly
>square with a high ceiling. The band I was in at the time played there a
>number of times

Hey, what band were you in? I went to a few shows there, but my memory is
nowhere near as good as yours. The best show I saw there was The Flock.
Ed.

Blkojo

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:45:36 AM8/7/03
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>From: edn...@aol.com

>The best show I saw there was The Flock.

Jerry Goodman, pre-Mahvishnu Orchestra. "Ha, ha" said the clown.

Teleologist

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Aug 7, 2003, 8:44:52 AM8/7/03
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In article <20030807020133...@mb-m26.aol.com>,
edn...@aol.com says...
> >The Kinetic Playground was a converted theatre/ballroom that was roughly

This playbill might bring back some memories -

http://www.roadhogs.net/laflamme/iabd/IABDimages/kinetic.jpg

Hint - we played the June 6th-8th dates, weren't Vanilla Fudge, and the
Sunday gig turned into a big blues jam when 'someone' showed up missing
a few members of his band.

How about those ticket prices??? Imagine paying $5 to see Zep or the Who
:-)))))

robert

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Aug 7, 2003, 9:47:48 AM8/7/03
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"Teleologist" <So...@nomail.com> wrote in message
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Hi,
Those ticket prices were a great feature for growing up during the
'60's-early '70's. If my memory serves me correct, $7.50 (all seats) to
catch the Stones. (and I thought that was high!) $6.00 got me into "The Band
of Gypsy's.
Many shows had 3 bands, the opening act was usually local talent, the
balance being name acts or the middle band would be a "introducing" of a
lesser known. Many times the middle act would steal the show. My
introduction to blues bands featuring a huge guitar came this way, Albert
King opening for Canned Heat....Freddy King opening for Rod Stewart (Faces).
The "bill" you posted showed Arthur Brown, a unique performer, he put
a lot of energy in his singing. similar to Screamin' Jay Hawkins. His song
"Fire" was most popular, I liked the flip side of that 45... his cover of "I
Put A Spell On You".
Beautiful Day was a common performer on the west coast, David
Laflamme's electrified violin work was great."White Bird" and "Wasted" (on
either the "Marrying Maiden" or "It's A Beautiful Day" album, I can't
remember) were crowd pleasers.
Thanks for posting the "bill", I have several and always enjoy
seeing 'em......
Cheers,
robert


Miles O'Neal

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Aug 7, 2003, 10:25:44 PM8/7/03
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 07:44:52 +0000, Teleologist wrote:


> This playbill might bring back some memories -
>
> http://www.roadhogs.net/laflamme/iabd/IABDimages/kinetic.jpg
>
> Hint - we played the June 6th-8th dates, weren't Vanilla Fudge, and the
> Sunday gig turned into a big blues jam when 'someone' showed up missing
> a few members of his band.

David LaFlamme showed up early?

> How about those ticket prices??? Imagine paying $5 to see Zep or the Who
> :-)))))

I saw the Who *and* Skynyrd for $5
in 1973 at the Omni in Atlanta. Not
sure what the real price was, we got
mine from a seriously stoned "scalper".
Guess he scalped his own self!

[First time I saw Skynyrd. They blew
me away, and scared the Who. Not many
folks could have done that last bit.]

Ednovak

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Aug 7, 2003, 11:07:11 PM8/7/03
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>The best show I saw there was The Flock.
>
>Jerry Goodman, pre-Mahvishnu Orchestra. "Ha, ha" said the clown.

Yeah, when those horns came back after the soft part and the bass build-up,
whoo boy!
I haven't heard any Rotary Connection in many yrs. Used to have the LP with
"Amen." What a blast from the past.
Ed.

Gtski

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Aug 9, 2003, 3:47:29 PM8/9/03
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"Miles O'Neal" <m...@rru.com> wrote in message
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WOW.. ! ! ! ! What a great playbill.. ! ! ! !

Dig Buddy Rich - Joe Cocker - The Who... ! ! ! ! ! Sheesh..!!!!

I bet both *other bands* were standing close in the wings to
check out Buddy Rich and his band..! ! ! !

THEY... WERE... SMOKIN . ! ! ! ! ! !

The last time I saw Buddy Rich was around 1980.... the man
NEVER stopped playing for his entire show.... he would solo
right through the end of one tune... call a 'number' (tune number)
and solo right into the begging of the next tune...
He played one-handed rolls faster than other drummers could
play two-handed....

He only stopped playing between the set and the encore....

WHEW..! ! ! !

gtski

Phil Farano

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Aug 9, 2003, 9:22:19 PM8/9/03
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"I bet both *other bands* were standing close in the wings to
check out Buddy Rich and his band..! ! ! !"

Reply:
Best damn drummer on the face of the earth.
I have all his records from the '70s & '80s.

My memory recalls a re-make of a 1955 album called "The Monster".
The most incredible coordination of hands & feet I ever heard.

He had a club on 34th street between 7th & 8th Ave in NYC.
It had an INCREDIBLE state-of-the-art sound system.
I frequented that club many times.
Saw Buddy hit his old pal Mel Torme "The Velvet Fog" in the face
with a birthday cake.

Buddy also played the St. Regis Hotel.

I introduced my brother to jazz & big-band music (Led Zep, too).
On one occasion I brought my younger brother to see Buddy at the St. Regis.
He, my brother, began to study the drums & made music his major when he
attended college.

Thank you for bringing back fond memories.
I think I'll go & fire-up some of those 33rpm beauties (I haven't played in
quite a while),
light a cigar & crank that horn playing section to the max. LOL!

Phil Farano
Ampmedic
Buddy Rich freak.

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