Bassman vs Sovtek mig50
djan...@my-dejanews.com
Princeton Chorus,and I need more volume. I don't like the sound of my fiddle
through a pre-amp, so I'm looking for a loud clean amp, preferably all tube.
I think 50 watts is enough power. I don't want the amp to be overdriven at
all to get my volume; distorted fiddle sounds wretched. I've heard the
Sovtek mig50 compared to the Bassman 50 watt head, and I've heard that
Sovteks are loud. Is the Bassman as loud? Which might sound better? Might I
get better sound from a mig100 or 100 watt Bassman, given the extra headroom?
Any other suggestions? The amps mentioned are in my price range (used).
Thanks in advance.
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BenjaminF
From a reliability perspective, I'd go with the bassman.
100 watts will give you more headroom, you might need the
volume. I'd like to say nice things about the Sovtek Mig 100
(I had one, yes it was loud ) but it had some serious mechanical
failures non techies wouldn't be able to fix.
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Jeppard3
musicman amp is probably a good way to go. I get some great crunch out of my
bassman, so it may not be what you need. The mig 100 is a serious high gain
amp. definitely not a good choice for clean. The mig 50 is similar to a
bassman. clean to a point, but there are reliability problems that are mostly
due to component choice. ( I hate the pots they use, for one ). Any of these
amps, however, will play louder than the princeton chorus you are currently
using.
>django99
> I play electric violin with a bowtronics pickup, currently through a Fender
>> Princeton Chorus,and I need more volume. I don't like the sound of my
>fiddle
>> through a pre-amp, so I'm looking for a loud clean amp, preferably all
>tube.
>> I think 50 watts is enough power. I don't want the amp to be overdriven at
>> all to get my volume; distorted fiddle sounds wretched. I've heard the
>> Sovtek mig50 compared to the Bassman 50 watt head, and I've heard that
>> Sovteks are loud. Is the Bassman as loud? Which might sound better? Might I
>> get better sound from a mig100 or 100 watt Bassman, given the extra
>headroom?
>> Any other suggestions? The amps mentioned are in my price range (used).
>> Thanks in advance.
Jim Eppard
e&e audio
Boom's Farm Productions
Applehead Recording
BenjaminF
>
> If its loud & clean with low distortion you're looking for, a twin reverb or a
> musicman amp is probably a good way to go. I get some great crunch out of my
> bassman, so it may not be what you need. The mig 100 is a serious high gain
> amp. definitely not a good choice for clean.
Actually I found the Mig 100 did an excellent and very loud clean. It was the
high gain channel that was hideous. The overall construction of the amp
was very good , big beefy transformers, ceramic tube sockets, nice heavy
metal chassis, good case construction. IMHO, they made a serious mistake
when they skimped on the quality of a few very important parts, namely
the pots and switches. I'd take a Mig 100 anyday to form the basis of
a rewired custom amp replacing all the pots and switches and substituting
higher quality resistors and caps within.
> The mig 50 is similar to a
> bassman. clean to a point, but there are reliability problems that are mostly
> due to component choice. ( I hate the pots they use, for one ).
The pots are garbage. PCB with the resistive element on it affixed to a
plastic
shell with 4 melt points that tend to give way. Sovtek amps could really use
some Ceramites or something decent. The internal PCB was also phenolic resin
in mine as opposed to fiberglass.
> >django99
Mookie2112
>Princeton Chorus,and I need more volume.
I'd try to find a used 100 watt Trace Elliot (or comparable) acoustic amp. I
think tubes are not a good choice for your "special" application.
Mook
Jeppard3
> high gain channel that was hideous.
*Mine ( mig100h) is a single channel model. The high gain characteristic is
why I bought it. That and the fact that it cost 25% of a mesa...I have many
other amps that do the clean thing better, but none that do the distortion
thing quite the same.
STRINGBEND
>Princeton Chorus,and I need more volume. I don't like the sound of my fiddle
>through a pre-amp, so I'm looking for a loud clean amp, preferably all tube.
(MHO) The most natural sounding amplified fiddle I heard the women was playing
through a Fishman amplifier.
>distorted fiddle sounds wretched.
If your playing 'Django' I suppose you're right but David Lindley's work with
Jackson Browne (the early years) was pretty cool tone in my book. (I think he
was using a tweed Deluxe when I saw him... years ago).
If you can stomach the extra weight you'll certainly get more headroom from a
100w amp - hey, how 'bout a used silverface Twin - loud and clean just like you
want!
Take care,
STRINGBEND
Scott McKnight
>>I play electric violin with a bowtronics pickup, currently through a Fender
>>Princeton Chorus,and I need more volume.
>
>
>I'd try to find a used 100 watt Trace Elliot (or comparable) acoustic amp. I
>think tubes are not a good choice for your "special" application.
>
>Mook
>
I'm just guessing but I would tend to agreee that tubes aren't really
necessary, and that (therefore) a decent SS amp would work. I've seen
some old Yamahas (e.g., G100 212) going cheap (~$100) that would
probably work, be less expensive, lighter, and more reliable. I play
guitar and have warehoused my G100 212 in favor of tube amps. But if
I really wanted total clean I might break the Yamaha out again. It's
given me no problems in nearly 20 years of fairly hard use.
-Scott McKnight
BenjaminF
Mine said Made in St Petersburg Russia. Does yours?
I'm thinking there might be a differance between
the early ones and the later ones (other than time
of manufacturer, damn trolls in here looking for a
cause yah know).
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Vincent Calcaterra
I play a Jensen 5 string with a Barbara bridge pickup though, so our
sounds
will be quite different. Do you like the sound you are getting with the
Princeton Chorus? If so, you would probably also like a Twin. I have a
1967 Blackface Twin that I've tried to use for several years. Personally
I don't like the "Fender" sound for violin, but if you like the
"Bowtronics" sound with the Princeton, you would probably also like the
Twin. I personally don't like 12" speakers, and the tone stack on the
Twin
doesn't do it for me, but I run a five space rack with a custom speaker
system, so you and I would probably aggree to disaggree!! ;>)
You might also try a Dual Showman head with a two twelve or a two ten
cabinet. It has all the power of a Twin, but in a head so it won't kill
you
to carry it. (like the Twin will!)
good luck,
-vince
djan...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> I play electric violin with a bowtronics pickup, currently through a Fender
> Princeton Chorus,and I need more volume. I don't like the sound of my fiddle
> through a pre-amp, so I'm looking for a loud clean amp, preferably all tube.
> I think 50 watts is enough power. I don't want the amp to be overdriven at
> all to get my volume; distorted fiddle sounds wretched. I've heard the
> Sovtek mig50 compared to the Bassman 50 watt head, and I've heard that
> Sovteks are loud. Is the Bassman as loud? Which might sound better? Might I
> get better sound from a mig100 or 100 watt Bassman, given the extra headroom?
> Any other suggestions? The amps mentioned are in my price range (used).
> Thanks in advance.
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