Duane Allman/Dickey Betts Pickups?
Ned Carlson
On Sun, 12 Apr 1998 00:28:45 -0600, chris...@hotmail.com wrote:
>Does anyone know what pickups they had in their Pauls? Or, what pickups
>would you reccommend to try and get that "tone".
This may be a totally dumb comment: but last time I saw
Mr. Betts, he was playing a Strat. This was 1997, and I checked &
double checked. Much to everyone's amazement, IMA.
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Does anyone know what pickups they had in their Pauls? Or, what pickups
would you reccommend to try and get that "tone".
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Tixfixco
>>Does anyone know what pickups they had in their Pauls? Or, what pickups
>>would you reccommend to try and get that "tone".
>
>Mr. Betts, he was playing a Strat. This was 1997, and I checked &
>double checked. Much to everyone's amazement, IMA.
The classic Allman sounds, such as Live at Fillmore East in '71, were derived
from stock Les Pauls with Marshall heads. 50watts for Duane, 100watts for
Dickey. I read that Duane's unique slide tone was obtained by using the Treble
pickup with the Tone rolled back to about 6. He also did not use a pick when
playing slide according to Dickey.
Levine
They both used stock, but in Duane's case selected, Gibson PAF humbuckers.
Duane changed pickups when he got his sunburst because he liked the pair he
had in his other guitar (which he was selling) better. I'm guessing by his
tone and style that the ones he preferred were slightly hotter than the
others.
Steve
chris...@hotmail.com wrote in message <6gpjec$2ko$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Does anyone know what pickups they had in their Pauls? Or, what pickups
>would you reccommend to try and get that "tone".
>
Sisco.
> >would you reccommend to try and get that "tone".
>
> Mr. Betts, he was playing a Strat. This was 1997, and I checked &
> double checked. Much to everyone's amazement, IMA.
>
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> 12:30 to 8 PM CT, (1830-0200 UTC) 12:30-5 Sat, Closed Wed & Sun
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last time i saw dickey him & gary morris was pointing a
bow and arrow at a deer on tnn...:-)
Mike Burns
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Ned Carlson wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Apr 1998 00:28:45 -0600, chris...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know what pickups they had in their Pauls? Or, what pickups
> >would you reccommend to try and get that "tone".
>
> This may be a totally dumb comment: but last time I saw
> Mr. Betts, he was playing a Strat. This was 1997, and I checked &
> double checked. Much to everyone's amazement, IMA.
Was this at their 5-show chicago appearance? I saw them twice
that week, and once in '96, and he was using an ES-335... That would have
been interesting to see him with a strat...
Mike
Jim Kroger
In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.98041...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu>,
Mike Burns <mbu...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Ned Carlson wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 12 Apr 1998 00:28:45 -0600, chris...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > >Does anyone know what pickups they had in their Pauls? Or, what pickups
> > >would you reccommend to try and get that "tone".
> >
PAFs. Allman played a fifties Les Paul, maybe a 59. Either way, it had
PAFs.
Should only cost you $500 to $1000 each, depending on color.
Jim
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Alan Thompson
Come on!.......$500 to $1000 for a 50's Les Paul? Not on this planet.
A.T.
Jonathan Krogh
maybe hes talking about a pair of original PAF's,
but i dunno where color comes in... although i did read somewhere that PAF's
prices somehow differ according to the bobbin color.
Alan Thompson wrote in message <6gsc8o$n...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>Come on!.......$500 to $1000 for a 50's Les Paul? Not on this planet.
>
>A.T.
>
>
>
>> > >
MWS2468
>> > > >Does anyone know what pickups they had in their Pauls? Or, what
>pickups
>> > > >would you reccommend to try and get that "tone".
>> > >
>>
>> PAFs. Allman played a fifties Les Paul, maybe a 59. Either way, it had
>> PAFs.
>>
>> Should only cost you $500 to $1000 each, depending on color.
>Come on!.......$500 to $1000 for a 50's Les Paul? Not on this planet.
>
I'm sure he meant per PAF. I have a pair and wouldn't sell them for any price.
kalen martin rodriguez
On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Alan Thompson wrote:
> Come on!.......$500 to $1000 for a 50's Les Paul? Not on this planet.
>
> A.T.
>
he meant the pickups
>
>
> Jim Kroger wrote:
>
> > In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.98041...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu>,
> > Mike Burns <mbu...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Ned Carlson wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, 12 Apr 1998 00:28:45 -0600, chris...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Does anyone know what pickups they had in their Pauls? Or, what pickups
> > > > >would you reccommend to try and get that "tone".
> > > >
> >
> > PAFs. Allman played a fifties Les Paul, maybe a 59. Either way, it had
> > PAFs.
> >
> > Should only cost you $500 to $1000 each, depending on color.
> >
Jim Kroger
In article <6gsf1k$ohr$1...@news2.tor.accglobal.net>, "Jonathan Krogh"
<jo...@ican.net> wrote:
> maybe hes talking about a pair of original PAF's,
> but i dunno where color comes in... although i did read somewhere that PAF's
> prices somehow differ according to the bobbin color.
> Alan Thompson wrote in message <6gsc8o$n...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
> >Come on!.......$500 to $1000 for a 50's Les Paul? Not on this planet.
> >
> >A.T.
> >
At the vintage shops around here, a black PAF brings $500, a white
brings $750, and a zebra brings $1000. Each. Give or take. Ridiculous, of
course. Go figure. I think it has something to do with the color of the
pickups that were found in the 59 cherry sunburst standards. For a $50,000++
guitar, finding the correct replacement pickup for $1000 is a steal.
Unfortunately, it seems PAFs, unlike amps or strats, are a hard item to
"wait" patiently for, as I hardly ever see individuals selling them.
On these you are more likely to have to bite the dealer bullet unless
you are r-e-a-l-l-y patient.
Jim Kroger
In article <6gsc8o$n...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, Alan Thompson
<Zomb...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Come on!.......$500 to $1000 for a 50's Les Paul? Not on this planet.
>
> A.T.
>
No, the pickups.
Tom Jaffe
chris...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone know what pickups they had in their Pauls? Or, what pickups
> would you reccommend to try and get that "tone".
>
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In their heyday they had original Gibson PAF humbuckers in their guitars.
Betts used Seymore Duncan '59's and Seth Lovers later on, I believe. I think
the new Gibson '57 Classics do a good job of reproducing that PAF sound.
Then get a Marshall amp and crank it!
Jim Kroger
In article <6gume4$iif$1...@its.hooked.net>, NOSPA...@well.com () wrote:
> If you really want to get in the PAF zone without dealing with
> counterfeiters or having to trade an axe for one, check out Tom Holmes
> pickups, they're phenomenally good. See their reviews at Harmony
> Central.
>
> Alan
How much are they? Anybody compared them to an Antiquity?
NOSPA...@well.com
LuvDr35
the reason that some Les Pauls has zebraor white pickups is that Gibson ran
outof black bobbins at some point in 59-the company did not see that as a
problem, as they intendedfor the covers to stay on the pickups-as for
replacements, try the new reissues or the Duncan Seth Lover's or antiquities-be
warned, though-some of the "tone" atrributed to the old PIU's is because they
are old and some what worn out-remember-guitars and amps are about the only
type of electronics where imperfectionsand idiosynrocies are considered to be a
good thing
LuvDr35
well, if you get inot the true botique producers, youroptionsare even
greater-problem is you have to either mail order most of them or go to Texas
where 90%of them seem to be made-LOL
Greg Siegel
Try Rio Grande Pickups -- Alnico magnets, hand wound in the back of a
friend's garage here in Houston, great tone. They come in several
styles for both Fender and Gibson style guitars. Call Alamo Music
Products at 713-957-0470. Tell 'em Greg sent you.
Greg
la...@ibm.net
In article <6gpjec$2ko$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
chris...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what pickups they had in their Pauls? Or, what pickups
> would you reccommend to try and get that "tone".
>
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They had original PAF's in their guitars. Seymour Duncan Seth Lover pickups
are the closest thing you can get without paying like $500 for an original
set.
Jim Kroger
Can you be more specific as to how they differ from
the antiquities?
Jim
In article <6h1gaj$88o$1...@its.hooked.net>, NOSPA...@well.com () wrote:
> kro...@ucla.edu (Jim Kroger) wrote:
>
> >In article <6gume4$iif$1...@its.hooked.net>, NOSPA...@well.com () wrote:
>
> >How much are they? Anybody compared them to an Antiquity?
>
>
> They're pricey at $120 ea., but I've tried both them and Antiquities,
> and I liked the Holmes better. Probably the best new-made humbuckers
> I've ever played, and better than some original PAF's.
> Alan
FF
So did Duane use a Fuzzface or some other distortion box? His tone
sure is different from Dickey. It's not just the 50watt Plexi, is it?
"Levine" <lev...@pobox.com> wrote:
>They both used stock, but in Duane's case selected, Gibson PAF humbuckers.
>Duane changed pickups when he got his sunburst because he liked the pair he
>had in his other guitar (which he was selling) better. I'm guessing by his
>tone and style that the ones he preferred were slightly hotter than the
>others.
>
>Steve
>
>chris...@hotmail.com wrote in message <6gpjec$2ko$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
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NOSPA...@well.com
kro...@ucla.edu (Jim Kroger) wrote:
>Can you be more specific as to how they differ from
>the antiquities?
Jim,
Slightly sweeter top end, bigger bottom end _without being muddy_ ,
smoother transitions from clean to dirty, and if you have Tom pot them
(he can make them either way), less microphonic (that can be a plus or
a minus depending on your taste and your playing volume).
Look, for some CD's that friends don't know and ask me about, I'm so
sure that they'll like them, that I tell them to buy it and if they
don't like it, I'll buy it from them. I feel the same way about these
pickups. If I knew you, I'd make the same offer.
Alan
Gerald Lopez
la...@ibm.net wrote:
: In article <6gpjec$2ko$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
: chris...@hotmail.com wrote:
: >
: > Does anyone know what pickups they had in their Pauls? Or, what pickups
: > would you reccommend to try and get that "tone".
: >
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: They had original PAF's in their guitars. Seymour Duncan Seth Lover pickups
: are the closest thing you can get without paying like $500 for an original
: set.
nah I think Tom Holmes pickups are the closest you can get.
gerry
FF
Anyone know where I can get some cream P90's for a 68 LP Deluxe?
Marc Miller
Gibson is making re-issue P-90s, with black or cream plastic covers,
and also a newer stacked coil version (P-100).
http://www.gibson.com/products/strings/pickups/soap.html
Check http://www.gibson.com to see a goldtop with cream P-90s
But note that P-90 soapbars don't fit into a humbucker mounting ring
(they don't use mounting rings, only mounting screws thru the pickup
into the body cavity or else dogears screwed into the top). However,
Gibson started making a new version (P-94) for retro-fitting into a
humbucker mounting, and they're available in creme/chrome.
http://www.gibson.com/whatsnew/pressrelease/1997/p94.html
If you install a new pair of P-90s (or P-94s), make sure it's a
matched set (magnet poles respectively swapped). That way, when you
have both pickups switched in, they'll act like a humbucker.
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On Sat, 18 Apr 1998 04:34:08 GMT, ff...@mindspring.com (FF) wrote:
>Anyone know where I can get some cream P90's for a 68 LP Deluxe?
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