Reelin' in the Years Tone..
Jeb
Anyone venture a guess as to guitar/amplifier/effects used on the solo to
Steely Dan/Reelin' in the Years? Always thought it was ol' Jeff Baxter on
guitar, but a buddy claims it was another studio musician, any information
appreciated.
jeb
Bcoolstuff
guitar, but a buddy claims it was another studio musician, any information
appreciated. >>
Jeff played the "surf" parts in the bridge. The solo was done by Elliot
Randall, if I'm not mistaken.
Billy
L10573
>Jeff played the "surf" parts in the bridge. The solo was done by Elliot
>Randall, if I'm not mistaken.
>
Yup - Elliot Randall through a little Pignose amp. Don't know about the guitar
and effects though.
=Bob
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effects. I never got the impression that there were any effects, just
his old strat, on the neck pickup, with lots of distortion (any will
do). It sounds good for the 'notes' part of the solo, but at the end
when he hits a chord, it really reminds me of why I don't like Strats -
all broken up and dissonent.
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The Chris wrote
>Elliot Randall definitely -
I could've sworn it was Larry Carlton.... (??) Didn't I read an interview
years ago where he spoke about it..??
Maybe not. ????
gtski
nuke
If I'm not mistaken Rich has suggested it was an *SVT* of all things. That's
the fun thing about studio recordings. One never really knows for sure what
produced a particular sound, mainly because a microphone hears things a lot
differently than a human would in the same room.
Elliot plays a strat, which may or may not have had humbuckers in it at the
time. I dunno, he's been asked by several interviewers.
Me, I would probably have picked a small 6V6 based tube amp and perhaps an
early solid state fuzz pedal if that wasn't enough.
Frank D. Greco
Elliot Randall. Did it in one take and got paid $75 (union
scale back then).
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>
> In article <8op4mp$4l3$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "GTski"> Larry came later. All over _The Royal Scam_, and gloriously, too.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Maurice Rickard
> http://mauricerickard.com/
I always thought it was Denny Diaz.
John
always described as the Reelin In the Years sound. Don't know
if there's any truth to it.
"Jeb" <jcm...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:39af...@flexnet239.uunt.net...
Kent Pearson
- KP
TC
was his shining moment - two must-learn solos, IMHO.
Sorta off topic, but I've had the pleasure of seeing LC at the Blue
Note in NYC a couple times, and besides his phenomenal musicianship,
he's *really* funny. For example...
Larry plays a slow blues in G just about every night. After his solo,
the band takes the tune waaaaaaaaay down low - just the tiniest
high-hat beat remaining. Larry proceeds to turn on *every* one of his
stomp boxes, and starts slowly rocking his wah-wah up and down. The
swishing sound rolls over the audience for about 10-15 seconds, until
someone starts to chuckle. Larry looks up, eyebrows raised, and says
"What?". =)
Then there was the guy that called out for "Kid Charlemagne". Larry
responded, "You gotta have *hair* to play that stuff!".
We now return you to your regularly scheduled program...
TC
In article <8op4mp$4l3$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, GTski
<zzet...@zzerols.com> wrote:
GTski
TC wrote
>As others mentioned, Larry played on later albums. "Kid Charlemagne"
>was his shining moment - two must-learn solos, IMHO.
>
>Sorta off topic, but I've had the pleasure of seeing LC at the Blue
>Note in NYC a couple times, and besides his phenomenal musicianship,
>he's *really* funny. For example...
I think "phenomenal" is a good description of what he does... I saw him a
couple times... once back in the 70's when he was with the Crusaders....
whew...!!! He played jazz as cool as you want and then could put the chops
right in your face without even breathin hard... he'd be laughin and
playing... and during one solo he was having so much fun he looked over at
(??.. spaced out the sax players name) and gave a nod that he wanted another
8 bars... he never missed a note and kept the solo "intact"... finishing
with a really nice "double stop" thing that completely slayed me...
He was playing that sunburst 335 thru a "smallish" Mesa back then... didn't
have many stop boxes that I could see... other than his volume pedal...
back then not many players were using 335's live... of course I did, and I
tried to cop every sound of his I could... :-)
I'm STILL tryin..!!!!
>
>Larry plays a slow blues in G just about every night. After his solo,
>the band takes the tune waaaaaaaaay down low - just the tiniest
>high-hat beat remaining. Larry proceeds to turn on *every* one of his
>stomp boxes, and starts slowly rocking his wah-wah up and down. The
>swishing sound rolls over the audience for about 10-15 seconds, until
>someone starts to chuckle. Larry looks up, eyebrows raised, and says
>"What?". =)
>
>Then there was the guy that called out for "Kid Charlemagne". Larry
>responded, "You gotta have *hair* to play that stuff!".
I have numerous, VERY worn, copies of "About Last Night" live at the
Whiskey A Go-Go.... I think thats the name.... (??) this should be
required listening (learning) for every guitar player. LC does not use
speed for speeds sake... and he plays inspired stuff... sometimes it's
"written" inspired stuff but then he'll mix in some "spontaneous" inspired
stuff (and sometimes actually makes a small mistake, which means he's "goin
for it".) There is one tune on that LP where at the end of the tune as the
last chord hangs for 4 counts... he very quietly lets rip more notes than
you would think could be played in the remaining 3 beats of the song... and
he ain't "hammering" these notes... he's "pickin" them...!!! Almost as a
quiet release of energy held in reserve.....
Did I mention that I like Larry Carlton...??
Does anyone like his singing voice...?? :-) (Larry...!! Your
best voice is your guitar..!!)
>
>We now return you to your regularly scheduled program...
>
Alpep
reeling in the years solo it is credited to elliott, jeff skunk baxter and
denny dias
Elliott Randall
I like Dan Armstrong's Orange squeezer a lot, but I did not use it on my leads
on Reelin' In The Years.
What I did use was the following:
my '63 strat (neck pickup - '69 Gibson PAF humbucker)
Ampeg SVT amp - at full volume
-that was it! (The SVT would not have been my first choice, but Roger Nichols
requested that I try it first - and it worked very well.)
best regards,
Elliott Randall
TC
It's funny that you should mention that...
Granted, singing isn't Larry Carlton's strongest talent. The same night
that Larry was making his other wisecracks (see earlier post), someone
in the audience called out, "Larry! Don't sing!". Definitely rude and
uncalled for. But Larry was ready and responded, "Look buddy - I don't
come down to your job and tell you how to pump gas".
Ba-dum! Another heckler stymied. It was priceless.
TC
In article <8oqj2f$rkt$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, GTski
PMG
Elliott Randall wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I like Dan Armstrong's Orange squeezer a lot, but I did not use it on my leads
> on Reelin' In The Years.
>
> What I did use was the following:
>
> my '63 strat (neck pickup - '69 Gibson PAF humbucker)
> Ampeg SVT amp - at full volume
An SVT running full tilt? That must have hurt. I suppose if you were
wearing headphones anyhow it would have been easier to handle. It was
a good sound.
Pete
>
> -that was it! (The SVT would not have been my first choice, but Roger Nichols
> requested that I try it first - and it worked very well.)
>
> best regards,
>
> Elliott Randall
>
> www.elliott-randall.com/
>
> John wrote:
>
> > For some reason, the cheezer little Orange Squeezer compressor is
> > always described as the Reelin In the Years sound. Don't know
> > if there's any truth to it.
> >
> > "Jeb" <jcm...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
> > news:39af...@flexnet239.uunt.net...
> > > Hey, hey..
> > >
> > > Anyone venture a guess as to guitar/amplifier/effects used on the solo to
> > > Steely Dan/Reelin' in the Years? Always thought it was ol' Jeff Baxter on
> > > guitar, but a buddy claims it was another studio musician, any information
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > jeb
> > >
> > >
--
Oh no,
I did it again --Lowell George
Danny Russell
Elliott Randall wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I like Dan Armstrong's Orange squeezer a lot, but I did not use it on my leads
> on Reelin' In The Years.
>
> What I did use was the following:
>
> my '63 strat (neck pickup - '69 Gibson PAF humbucker)
> Ampeg SVT amp - at full volume
>
> -that was it! (The SVT would not have been my first choice, but Roger Nichols
> requested that I try it first - and it worked very well.)
That's amazing. SVT cab as well? Ampeg did make a "guitar
version" of the SVT for a short while; the V-9, but you don't see
too many of those around. Rumor has it that Ronnie Montrose used an
SVT on "Montrose" ("Bad Motor Scooter", and all that stuff). Can't
validate that though. -Danny
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Bcoolstuff
That's amazing. SVT cab as well? Ampeg did make a "guitar version" of the
SVT for a short while; the V-9, but you don't see too many of those around.
Rumor has it that Ronnie Montrose used an SVT on "Montrose" ("Bad Motor
Scooter", and all that stuff). Can't
validate that though. -Danny >>
I was under the impression that the first Montrose record was done with
Ronnie's old 3x10 Bandmaster, but I can't remember where I read that... Sounds
like there's a fuzz on alot of that stuff as well. In any case, that was a
monster of an album, with great tone all around. I would tend to think that Ted
Templeman had alot to do with that as well.
BTW, Steve Morse's live rig used to consist of a V4 head lined out into a V9
head thru Ampeg cabs.
Also Punky Meadows from Angel (remember them?) used SVTs or V9s on stage.
Billy
Jeb
I guess this is the definitive word and answer to my question. Just plug in
direct and wail!! No wonder it's my favorite solo. I guess my
interpretation will be neck position on a 72 Telecaster through a cranked 59
Tweed Deluxe. Good people in this NG.
Peace,
Jeb
"Elliott Randall" <ell...@elliott-randall.com> wrote in message
news:39B0F5C6...@elliott-randall.com...
Miles O'Neal
> Did I mention that I like Larry Carlton...??
I'm not sure. Do you?
> Does anyone like his singing voice...?? :-) (Larry...!! Your
> best voice is your guitar..!!)
Sorta like Eric Johnson. There are some things he can sing
OK, but I like the way he sings through his guitar I don't
care *what* he does with his voice. He could grunt like
a pig during his songs, and I'd still listen.
Bcoolstuff
Mmmmm... or Gary Moore - Plays like a house afire, but his voice is um, er...
uninspiring, to say the least. Corny song lyrics, too. What'd Zappa say? Shut
up and play yer guitar - let somebody else sing.
Billy
Jonathan Krogh
mark <mws...@aol.comb> wrote in message
news:20000903014157...@ng-da1.aol.com...
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> >What I did use was the following:
> >
> >my '63 strat (neck pickup - '69 Gibson PAF humbucker) Ampeg SVT amp - at
full
> volume
>
> someone is a rock star doesn't mean they are experts on guitar stuff.
> Randall is a great musician (not just guitarist) who plays with
imagination and
> feeling.
>
> Anybody know what years Gibson produced PAFs?
Hehe, 57-64?
This reminds me of a Rene Martinez article on SRV gear, where Stevies strat
was a 62 from the neck stamp, but there was 59 penciled on one or more of
the pickups, so he referred to it as a '59. So Renes boss, Charley Wurtz<?>,
says "look, its his guitar, and he says its a '59, and we have no business
saying otherwise".
Kent Pearson
On 3-Sep-2000, Rich Koerner <ri...@timeelect.com> wrote:
> After that comes the "T" tops which weigh in at $200.00 each.
> (Note - these are NYC prices)
>
> What a difference a date makes!!!!!
>
> After talking with the owners of guitars with both PAF's and "T" tops in
> them, there is very little to hear as a difference between them I'm
> told. Me, I'll take their word for it.
<SNIPPERS>
> One of the fellows I had talked to told me if I took my 64-65 SG "T"
> tops and slapped them in a 59 LP and compared it to another 59 LP with
> its PAF's that most people could not tell the difference.
No shit? No WONDER my Epiphone Dot sounds so sweet! That's the pickup I
had laying around in a parts box that I put in the neck position when I
threw the Epi PUs (pee-YEWW) in the trash can!
(Bill Lawrence in the back, this guitar COOKS!)
$200 bucks, really? More than I would have thought, by about $150.00! And
the bobbins don't have the T mold marks any longer??
> So, here in is the difference between hearing with your eyes instead of
> with your ears.
Which so many do
> My point,... to the real musicians, the Vintage BS just doesn't matter
> to them or the music.
Exactly. But seeing how it does to so many, and it's because of THEM that
the prices are driven up so high you need a telescope to see them, here's MY
advice;
WHATEVER it is you buy, and I don't give a crap WHAT it is, DON'T EVER SELL
IT! 30 years down the road some fool is going to offer you a fortune for it
just because it's OLD, and it fits in his/her collection of OLD shit. The
truth of the matter is that there is good old shit and bad old shit.
Obviously the good stuff is more desirable, but it ALL goes up in price.
Look at the markup on a CHEAP single p/u masonite Silvertone/Danelectro.
I've seen that $65 guitar going for over $400! Or a $400 '70's Strat (the
worst bones Fender ever put out) up over a grand now. OR, the 1960 ES-335
that I saw in Vintage Guitar, for a mere $60,000.00! Anyway, whatever it is
you have... don't sell it for about 30 years. It's money in the bank! Even
if it's a POS! (Which the humbuckers, back on topic, clearly were NOT)
Thanks for that info Rich! (and a belated thanks for the offer on the
graphics, btw)
- KP
Kent Pearson
through my head!
- KP
Bruce Morgen
>
>Elliott Randall
>>Hi all,
>
>
>Hey Elliott..!!! How's things...?? We like your "stuff"...
>
>
>>I like Dan Armstrong's Orange squeezer a lot, but I did not use it on my
>leads
>>on Reelin' In The Years.
>
>
>
>>What I did use was the following:
>>
>>my '63 strat (neck pickup - '69 Gibson PAF humbucker)
>>Ampeg SVT amp - at full volume
>
>
>Well... since you mentioned it... I was just playing a Fender with a HB at
>the Bridge... then I played a Fender with a HB at the Neck...
>oooooOOOOooo.... I like the HB at the neck a LOT...!!! it makes a Fender
>sound soooooooooo good...!!!
>
>As far as the Ampeg SVT at full volume...??? Well... in any studio I've
>been in it would have been in the isolation booth and... my health would
>not have been effected... :-)
>
>>
>>-that was it! (The SVT would not have been my first choice, but Roger
>Nichols
>>requested that I try it first - and it worked very well.)
>
>
>good choice Roger...!!
>
They don't call him "The Immortal"
for nothing -- but I'm glad that
cranked-up SVT wasn't in my ZIP
code at the time!
>>
>>best regards,
>>
>>Elliott Randall
>>
>>www.elliott-randall.com/
>>
>>
>
>
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>I have to admit that, since this thread began, that song has been going
>through my head!
>
Of course it has -- great tune,
classic solo by a first-rate
player!
soundbox
orange one with the one control, set vary loud and controled in the mix....
TC <he...@there.com> wrote in article <020920000133075095%he...@there.com>...
Rich Koerner
Jonathan Krogh wrote:
<snip>
> > A PAF with both blonde bobbins = $1,400.00 each.
> > A PAF with one blonde bobbin and one black bobbin = $1,200.00 each.
> > A PAF with both black bobbins = $1,000.00 each.
> >
> > After that comes the "T" tops which weigh in at $200.00 each.
> > (Note - these are NYC prices)
> >
> > What a difference a date makes!!!!!
>
> Rich, you forgot the model after the PAF, and before the T tops, that is the
> one with the smooth top bobbin with no mold marks, and the decal saying
> "patent # 767842" (or whatever number) instead of "patent applied for".
> I wanna know what those are worth, cause I have two of em sitting in a
> drawer here! Waiting on me to get a lefty LP Standard.
You know the best thing to do is give a call to Mandolin Brothers.
Or one of the other collector/dealers in Vintage Guitar Magazine.
I'll tell you one thing. Some of these guy can't get on the same page
with their information or prices either.
After my experience in this PAF thing, I'm glad as hell I never got into
that game.
This whole Vintage thing is insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Make absolutely No Sense to me at all!!!!!!
It's ALL MONEY DRIVEN!!!
This is crazy!!!!
For example, I was told there was an old Ampeg B-15 that sold for over
$2,000.00 in a bidding frenzy. The seller could not believe it!!!!
It was a nice amp. But 2K!!!???????
Regards,
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