START ME UP setup
glenn battersby
Does anyone know the set up used by Keith for the opening chords to the
studio version of Start me up? I know that he used the open G tuning,
but the guitar and amp set up is a mystery to me. (Also, if you know,
what was the set up for Brown Sugar).
thanks in advance
GB
srv
glenn battersby <batt...@nospam.triumf.ca> wrote in message
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Charles Thomas
Southpaw wrote:
>
> On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:16:06 -0700, glenn battersby
> <batt...@nospam.triumf.ca> wrote:
>
> >Greetings...
> >
> >Does anyone know the set up used by Keith for the opening chords to the
> >studio version of Start me up? I know that he used the open G tuning,
> >but the guitar and amp set up is a mystery to me. (Also, if you know,
> >what was the set up for Brown Sugar).
> >
> Keith who??? Actually, it sounds a bit like a flanger to me.
What color is the sky in your world?
Mr E Train
>> >studio version of Start me up? I know that he used the open G tuning,
>> >but the guitar and amp set up is a mystery to me. (Also, if you know,
>> >what was the set up for Brown Sugar).
>> >
>> Keith who??? Actually, it sounds a bit like a flanger to me.
>
>
>What color is the sky in your world?
>
>
through a fairly clean Fender amp. He usually uses two amps together, a bigger
amp like a tweed Twin set up fairly clean, and then a smaller amp like a Deluxe
set to a dirtier sound. I don't know what the big deal is. You're not gonna
sound like Keith no matter what you do because nobody sounds like Keith but
Keith. The guy in the Black Crowes tried, but he ended up sounding like Humble
Pie.
Ton Riekwel
Mr E Train <mret...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Mr G
>He only uses 5 strings on a guitar. This might get you on the track.
. . . and tunes them differently . . .
arc4786
: Greetings...
: Does anyone know the set up used by Keith for the opening chords to the
: studio version of Start me up? I know that he used the open G tuning,
: but the guitar and amp set up is a mystery to me. (Also, if you know,
: what was the set up for Brown Sugar).
That was before the Chuck Berry movie in which Keef was the musical
director, and he was still using the V4 in the Berry movie, So I'd bet
on an open G-ed Telecaster (maybe the '52) straight through to the V4
with a bit of reverb added. I'd be willing to bet that Brown Sugar would
be strikingly similar, sans the 'verb. The V4 was Keith's standby for many
of those glory years, and (because of its weird output tubes and because
it wasn't made by Fender or Marshall) you or I can still pick one up used
for a great price.
--
"Some people's idea of free speech is that they are free to say what they
like, but if anyone says anything back, that is an outrage."
-Winston Churchill
Buzz Tone
sounded too much alike so SMU was dropped. Imagine these songs with the
others setup, I like BS way better, (guess that's why I spend so much
time here). I read a book about the Stones in which it describes some
details about recording BS, which is chronicled in the movie Gimmie
Shelter. The amp was put into the large restroom of Muscle Schoal's
recording studio for natural echo. Keith used a small amp, probably an
Ampeg Reverb-O-Rocket. The SMU tone sounds like that Tele with the
Humbucker in the neck, the amp sounds pretty characterless, many amps
can cop that tone, but it was probably the Boogie Mark I he'd been using
since around 76'. Later on, around 90' he got back into Tweed Twinn's,
Black face Deluxe's, and little champ type amps. In around 86' he
experimented with Boogie simulclasses, and contrary to the previous
post, he used a Boogie Mark I in the Chuck Berry movie, it's plainly
visible while Chuck gives him lesson's on how to play "Carol". I've
allways herd people saying he used Ampeg V-4's, but from all the books
and mags I read (lots), the concert amps in the late 60's, and early to
mid 70's, were V-9s. V-9s have the same pre-amp as a V-4, but the power
section of an SVT, with added reverb. The cabs are V-2s with Altec
12's. Some photos show Keith in the studio with VT 22s during the
recordings for "Exile on Main St.".
TimTube
Buzz...@webtv.net (Buzz Tone) writes:
>I've
>allways herd people saying he used Ampeg V-4's, but from all the books
>and mags I read (lots), the concert amps in the late 60's, and early to
>mid 70's, were V-9s
I've heard that it was V4s for the '69 tour and V9s for the '73 tour.
Tim
A great amp can make a lousy guitar sound great.
A lousy amp will make a great guitar sound lousy.
A great player will sound great with anything.
CILIN MORTIMORE
close.
>
> Does anyone know the set up used by Keith for the opening chords to the
> studio version of Start me up? I know that he used the open G tuning,
> but the guitar and amp set up is a mystery to me. (Also, if you know,
> what was the set up for Brown Sugar).
>
> GB
Buzz Tone
Fighting Man". Well, in case anyone else wants to know, here it goes.
He tape recorded an Acoustic tuned in open B, than played it back into
the multitrack recording directly. I have read just about everything in
mags and books about them, the gear used and and wan't to know all I
can. Once, after a small gig, I got to talk person to person with Mick
Taylor, but I thought it would be rude to ask "gear" questions, I mostly
listened in reverence. I didn't wan't to reduce his claim to fame as the
mere choice of certain guitar's or amps. BTW, he is touring small clubs
again here, it's been about five years since he came to a local club,
(unless I missed it). In my area, Detroit, he'll be at the Magic Bag in
Detroit, July 23rd, so check closly in your local paper. Don't leave
after the show, he's a really down to Earth kinda guy, and you'll get to
shake hands and chat.
Mike Rejsa
: Mike Rejsa E-mailed me with A Q about what Keith used on "Street
: Fighting Man".
Actually that was "Jumping Jack Flash"... at least, that's what I meant.
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ALAN THOMPSON
I think he was right, Keith played the acoustic into a little Norelco
cassette machine for "Street Fighting Man". If you check out the Stones'
"Rock 'n' Roll Circus" video, Keith plays the JJF riff in regular tuning at
the second fret B chord, Brian is playing the same riff in A tuning fretting
a B chord at the second fret. I mention this because this sounds closer to
the studio recording (the video was done shortly after the song was
recorded) than the later "bastardized" riff they did live. I still haven't
figured out exactly what the higher pitched guitar part is on the studio
recording, maybe I will before I die!
A.T.
Mike Rejsa
: Mike-
: I think he was right, Keith played the acoustic into a little Norelco
: cassette machine for "Street Fighting Man". If you check out the Stones'
Hmmm, I just can't communicate this week...
I would like to know what guitar/amp setup Keith used on Jumping Jack
Flash.
Buzz Tone
remembered that Alan wanted to know the setup for JJF, not SFM, but I
calmed down on the note that they were both done the same way, and if
not they sound like it so whats the point?
Mike Rejsa
: On my way to work, as I realised that I forgot my Weird Al tape, I also
: remembered that Alan wanted to know the setup for JJF, not SFM, but I
: calmed down on the note that they were both done the same way, and if
: not they sound like it so whats the point?
OK, so I'll just guess... it was probably a Dan Electro plugged into an
Acoustic 260, and they miced the horn. Close enough.
ALAN THOMPSON
I think I see what happened here, I misunderstood your reply to Buzz Tone's
post to mean that his ANSWER was really about JJF, but you really meant that
the original question you asked HIM was about JJF. Shit, this is even more
confusing than the original posts!
Anyway, I don't know the answer for sure, but Keith was seen using a Les Paul a
lot during that period, that's what I believe he was using on the R&R Circus
vid, so that's a possibility.
A.T.
Mike Rejsa wrote:
> ALAN THOMPSON <Zomb...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> : Mike-
> : I think he was right, Keith played the acoustic into a little Norelco
> : cassette machine for "Street Fighting Man". If you check out the Stones'
>
> Hmmm, I just can't communicate this week...
>
> I would like to know what guitar/amp setup Keith used on Jumping Jack
> Flash.
>