Which Mesa Boogie is similar to a JCM800?
Steve Watson
Can someone tell me which Mesa Boogie model would sound the closest to a
Marshall JCM800? I really like the JCM800's tone and power, but I'd like to
give a similar Mesa Boogie a try before I decide to absolutely go with a
Marshall.
Thanks
Steve
Tonefactor
Go with the Marshall. No Mesa Boogie can cop a decent Marshall tone.
MikeyJake
>Go with the Marshall. No Mesa Boogie can cop a decent Marshall tone.
>
Then again, no Marshall this decade can cop a decent Marshall tone.
mgj
Jonathan Krogh
thank god....
>No Marshall can cop a decent BOOGIE tone.
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Romeo
No Marshall can cop a decent BOOGIE tone.
In article <19980317142...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, tonef...@aol.com
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>>Can someone tell me which Mesa Boogie model would sound the closest to a
>>Marshall JCM800? I really like the JCM800's tone and power, but I'd like to
>>give a similar Mesa Boogie a try before I decide to absolutely go with a
>>Marshall.
>>
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>
Tonefactor
>>No Marshall can cop a decent BOOGIE tone.
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>thank god....
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Hey! I was going to say that.
JRat96
Use your ears to decide. Try the Marshall's the Mesa's and some other amps
that are out there. Just to let you know, with a Mesa, you definitely get what
you pay for. The bottom line is there are many different amps out there for
a variety of tastes. So, if you already have a preamp, take it with you as
well as your guitar - if the store doesn't have one. This way, you'll be able
to get a good idea of how well the amp sounds with your gear.
Vic Dyer
Steve,
Check out either a Mark III 100/60, a Mark III Simulclass, or a Mark
IIc+ if you can find them used.
Vic Dyer
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Steve Watson wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me which Mesa Boogie model would sound the closest to a
> Marshall JCM800? I really like the JCM800's tone and power, but I'd like to
> give a similar Mesa Boogie a try before I decide to absolutely go with a
> Marshall.
>
> Thanks
> Steve
Tonefactor
>Check out either a Mark III 100/60, a Mark III Simulclass, or a Mark
>IIc+ if you can find them used.
>
>
None of those sound like a Marshall. If you want Marshall tone, you have to
buy a Marshall.
Vic Dyer
wELL that's your opinion. I have a JCM800 2204 and a 4204 combo. My
MkIII sounds like a modded Marshall to me. The MkIII is definitely
harder and more time consuming to dial in. That is, there is a learning
curve you have to master before you can get a sound that you are looking
for. A good trick is to use the MkIII through the 4204s speakers.
Increases my versatility at a gig and it is a relatively small rig to
carry around.
Vic Dyer
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cindy chan
Mr. Dyer,
I just bought a MESA/Boogie Subway Rocket, and I am very excited and
satisfied with this marvelous handbuilt amp. You mentioned that your Mklll
takes time to dial in correctly, albeit more time consuming. I have quickly
found that to be true, as this amp is very sensitive ( i.e. responsive ) to
subtle changes in guitar, preamp, and tone settings. In fact, it sounds so
much different than in the store, I'm just glad it was for the better. I
read some negative reviews on this newsgroup, not just on the SR, but from
guitarists that had given said amp the once over at a STORE ( obviously
polluted with a host of undesirable noises coming from every direction ). I
wonder how many great, perfectly suited amplifiers, as well as instruments,
have been overlooked due to the loud environment of a music store....
I agree that a beauty like MESA/Boogie takes time to dial in correctly,
based upon so many factors we are all aware of, to get THE tone sought
after.
But, lucky me, it is in there!
Vic Dyer <vrd...@cyberramp.net> wrote in article
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It is true
Ryanmal
>Go with the Marshall. No Mesa Boogie can cop a decent Marshall tone.
>
>
Not that they try. Boogies have a totally different (to me more desirable)
kind of overdrive known as "american" distortion. It's more saturated, and
harmonic laden. If you like the JCM800, no boogie sounds like it.
Those people who tell you not to take chances, they are all missing out on what
life's about, you only live once so take hold of the chance, don't end up like
others the same song and dance.-- Jaymz Hetfield
Sam 846
On 18 Mar 1998 16:21:39 GMT, tonef...@aol.com (Tonefactor) wrote:
>>>No Marshall can cop a decent BOOGIE tone.
AMEN!!
Sam
Tonefactor
>>>>No Marshall can cop a decent BOOGIE tone.
>
>
That's because every Boogie is a toneless hunk of junk.
Ned Carlson
On 21 Mar 1998 00:48:54 GMT, tonef...@aol.com (Tonefactor) wrote:
>>>>>No Marshall can cop a decent BOOGIE tone.
>>
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>That's because every Boogie is a toneless hunk of junk.
Not to give an opinion, and I do not examine many Boogies,
but according to one local who does know, Boogies have a lot of
capacitors set up in such a way as to severely limit the audio
bandwidth, which likely gives them their characteristic tone...
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cindy chan
I saw King's X once where Ty Tabor was using a MESA/Boogie Dual Rectifier
amp head with a single 4x12 Marshall Cab.
Never have I heard a tone so heavy...
I've also seen him play a Marshall 100 head and 4x12 Marshall cab, and this
too was equally as massive in tone.
I feel that they are BOTH fantastic amp producers, and it's hard to tell a
difference at stage volumes/recording.
And please note: it seems as though many of my favorite artists have 2 or
more amps, and switch to either when a tone is called for....they know that
it is pointless to drive yourself nuts trying to get a Fender sound out of
a Marshall stack.
They just use both!
P.S. Also like to point out that none of these amps can produce my favorite
grind....a Vox AC30 TB full blast with a Les Paul.....whew!!!!!!1
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Tonefactor
> I do not examine many Boogies,
>> but according to one local who does know, Boogies have a lot of
>> capacitors set up in such a way as to severely limit the audio
>> bandwidth, which likely gives them their characteristic tone...
Yeah, that nasally midrange tone with no bottom end.
Dave Stork
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998 07:13:27 GMT, postm...@triodeel.com (Ned
Carlson) wrote:
>Not to give an opinion, and I do not examine many Boogies,
>but according to one local who does know, Boogies have a lot of
>capacitors set up in such a way as to severely limit the audio
>bandwidth, which likely gives them their characteristic tone...
Boogies do have a lot of shunt capacitors added. They'd oscillate like
crazy if they didn't... and sometimes they do, anyway.
--
Dave Stork
Stork Audio
New York
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Greg
I tend to agree with the post below...at stage volumes who can really
tell the difference between quality tube amps with similar gain and eq
settings. I saw Satriani a couple of nights ago...using a Marshall head
and Boss DS-1. When he used just the head, or with the stomp box...I
can't imagine anyone really being able to distinguish.
Schuyler Dunn
Tonefactor wrote:
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> > I do not examine many Boogies,
> >> but according to one local who does know, Boogies have a lot of
> >> capacitors set up in such a way as to severely limit the audio
> >> bandwidth, which likely gives them their characteristic tone...
>
What Mesa did you play with no bottom end?!?! Please tell me!
Schuyler Dunn
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Sam 846
Tonefactor wrote:
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> > I do not examine many Boogies,
> >> but according to one local who does know, Boogies have a lot of
> >> capacitors set up in such a way as to severely limit the audio
> >> bandwidth, which likely gives them their characteristic tone...
>
> Yeah, that nasally midrange tone with no bottom end.
That's strange. My Boogie has so much bottom end, it kills me. I only use a
single 2x12 cab and I can't turn the bass up higher than 3 without the entire
house rumbling and shaking as if an airplane is landing nearby. There's too
much bottom end.
Sam
aschuwer
I bought a Caliber 50+ last week after having played on Marshalls for
fifteen years!
The sound is very good and there's enough bottom end.
I run just the combo with its one 12" speaker.
The mistake many Marshall players make is to set the tone knobs the way
they are used to on their Marshall, and then expect a Marshall sound.
regards,
Ton
Tonefactor
>The mistake many Marshall players make is to set the tone knobs the way
>they are used to on their Marshall, and then expect a Marshall sound.
>
>
I owned a Mk II for 3 years. You don't think during all that time gigging with
it, that I didn't try every setting possible. Boogies just aren't my cup of
tea. They've got the thinnest clean sound of any amp I've ever heard, they
have no crunch rhythm sound like a Marshall, and the tone of their high gain
sounds is quite annoying.