Let's all pick on Dan Torres!
Hugh Jorifice
mods. Sometimes with good reason it would seem, although I can't comment on
him as a person as I haven't had the pleasure.
I found his Inside Tube Amps book a reasonably good starting point as a
fledgling tech, and sorting out the vague bits, the impossible-to-use index,
and all the ambiguities helped me even more; even if I had to find answers
elsewhere (like this NG!) at least that book helped me to understand my
questions.
Above all, it inspired me to make my first amp from scratch; not his single
channel class A in the book, but a 3 channel & reverb 50W monster which is
still gigged 3-4 times a week and sounds fantastic. And that was my first!
Here in the UK the importers for Torres Amplifiers, Vyse Ltd. publish a
little catalogue which details his mods for guitars and amps (you can view
this catalogue online at http://freespace.virgin.net/vyse.co if you want).
The claims he makes for these kits (or maybe, claims made by Vyse on his
behalf) are absolutely incredible! How do we all manage without?
I've gone on a bit already, but I'd like to invite opinions regarding these
mod kits.
Has anyone any experience of them?
Which ones have you tried? What was the mod? What did it set out to do?
Did it work?
What goes into these mods? What do you get for your money?
I understand, for example, the Bullet-proof kit (Part# BP100AK) which claims
to protect "the amp against voltage spikes, current overloads, dead speakers
and all the gremlins that can destroy the amp or tubes." consists of a
handful of discreet components; a few varistors, a fuse & fuse holder
assembly, the odd resistor, and a photocopied piece of paper which vaguely
tells you what to do. All this for £18, and £3 shipping within the UK.
Under £5's
worth of components and a 29p stamp! I've got to say this is secondhand
info however. I haven't seen it for myself.
His Righteous Reverb Kit for Fender Amps (Part# RFAK) "Makes the Reverb
sound much more integral. If you use the Reverb on your amp this is an
essential modification. Makes the old circuit sound like an afterthought."
Wow. Wonder what it actually sounds like!
The Dual Stage Master Volume for Fender Amps (Part# DMFAK) is apparently
"One of the most amazing kits you can install on any amp". As long as it's
a Fender. And as long as it's made before 1980.
What's YOUR experience of his guitar kits or his amp kits? Tell all!
Ignore the subject title, I don't have a problem with Dan Torres personally.
It's just that this subject has been hinted at time and time again and IMHO
it needs to be discussed properly. And I'm sorry this post is so long!
Seasons' greetings, etc.
Hugh Jorifice.
PMG
Hugh Jorifice wrote:
>
> Hi everyone! It seems increasingly popular in this NG to kick Dan Torres'
> mods. Sometimes with good reason it would seem, although I can't comment on
> him as a person as I haven't had the pleasure.
[.......]
> Seasons' greetings, etc.
>
> Hugh Jorifice.
Ok, go to deja, use this link http://www.deja.com/group/alt.guitar.amps
and do a search for Torres, and you are guaranteed to find mountains of
reasons why people around here hate his name.
Very recently, someone posted some links to some pictures of an amp that
he bought from Danny old boy, frightening slop hacking if you ask me.
Who posted those links? If I have time I'll look around for that, it
was very recent.
Pete
--
I've been shoved off better doorsteps than yours,
I can assure you --Mr. Natural
PMG
PMG wrote:
>
> Hugh Jorifice wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone! It seems increasingly popular in this NG to kick Dan Torres'
> > mods. Sometimes with good reason it would seem, although I can't comment on
> > him as a person as I haven't had the pleasure.
> [.......]
> > Seasons' greetings, etc.
> >
> > Hugh Jorifice.
>
> Ok, go to deja, use this link http://www.deja.com/group/alt.guitar.amps
> and do a search for Torres, and you are guaranteed to find mountains of
> reasons why people around here hate his name.
>
> Very recently, someone posted some links to some pictures of an amp that
> he bought from Danny old boy, frightening slop hacking if you ask me.
> Who posted those links? If I have time I'll look around for that, it
> was very recent.
Here, that didn't take too long, the post was by Buzztone, hope the
links don't get messed up by formatting.
Pete
Subject:
Re: Re. Photos of Torres butchery
Date:
12/12/2000
Author:
Buzz Tone <Buzz...@webtv.net>
Finally got the before and after photos scanned!
The amp was a 65' Princeton, which I bought from Dan Torres which HE
HIMSELF hack butchered. I evan
had to rebuild the baffle and regrille it. Just look at the tatty
sloppy gloppy unprofessional, pisspoor, halfassed,
well, let the photos say the thousand words! I hate him! Here is the
before photos:
Address:http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1297955&a=9628053&p=35342574&Sequence=0&res=high
Address:http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1297955&a=9628053&p=35342886&Sequence=0&res=high
Address:http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1297955&a=9628053&p=35342774&Sequence=0&res=high
Address:http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1297955&a=9628053&p=35342385&Sequence=0&res=high
I had it rebuilt by local amp tech and designer Danny Russell, and
the sound is as much improved as it
looks, not evan the same amp. >>>> GET BLITZED! <<<<<
After rebuild photos:
Address:http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1297955&a=9628053&p=35343057&Sequence=0&res=high
Address:http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1297955&a=9628053&p=35343149&Sequence=0&res=high
I've been thru hoards of amps, this one is definatly a keeper!
Richard
added quite a lot of extra circuitry. I don't know what all it was but
it looked like everything but the kitchen sink! Probably extra gain
stage, buffered effects loop etc. Jeez, he even bypassed each section
of the PS filter can with a film cap! When you add that much extra
circuitry in a confined space it's probably not gonna be neat. And
neat isn't always good. If someone were to bundle up the wrong bunch
of wires in a nice neat package it could result in an unstable amp due
to interactive coupling between wires. Plus the shortest distance
between two points sometimes goes right over other components.
The re-rebuilt final version looks like a not as radically modified
one. I do prefer the look of the second version and with tubes the
simplest circuitry usually sounds best.
Richard
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>mods. Sometimes with good reason it would seem, although I can't comment
>on
>him as a person as I haven't had the pleasure.
It's been popular for a long time.
He's built a business modding amps.
Other people have built businesses undoing them.
To each his own I suppose.
Robert M. Braught
post/thread from Buzz Tone or I'd have said something akin then... (to
me, the 'before' photos represent someone's honest effort to satisfy
*some* ideal...)
I occurs to me to ask if the amp in question was a 'platform' for proto
typing? (And Mr. Torres just got tired of it?); or, perhaps a customer
had all that work done, and he got stuck with it... (Therein lies my
story...)
Believe me, it's a project to 'originalize' an amp after extensive
modification; I'm dealing with a 2203 today that *does* have the kitchen
sink in it; two extra 12AX7's, three extra controls (rotary switch, two
pots), gobs of extra parts all over the place....
Synopsis: The new owner wants it back to original as possible, spending
$$$ to undo what someone else spent $$$+ to get. I've waited a while for
a 'clean' 2203 to come in so I don't have to think (just pattern), but
it hasn't happened, so out goes *all* and in goes my best shot at OEM
layout with original value components...
Danny, I feel for ya!
-Robert
Danny Russell
"Robert M. Braught" wrote:
>
SNIP
> Danny, I feel for ya!
Well, I'll be frank: Kids, stay in school, 'cause being an amp tech
ain't all as glamorous as it's cracked-up to be. Sure you get to meet
famous people, get invited to exclusive parties, and make uhh... how
shall I say it? Mmm... just a whole shitload of money, but the
problem is that first you need to make a deal with the devil in order
to cross the bridge to success.
There are sacrifices that need to be made, for example you may have
to: walk down E. Jefferson Avenue around 10:30PM after consuming a
half-pint of vodka, and with frozen fingers, bend over, pick up a
frozen White Castle bun off the sidewalk, and ponder whether it's
edible, ...or maybe (if your a little scrawny white-boy) accidently
walk down the wrong street and get the shit kicked out of you by a
whole bunch of big black dudes on their own turf. Stuff like that.
Enduring this type of suffering is what instills a person with
valuable insight into human nature and human spirit, all of which is
important to being able to figure out the madness of artists as a
means of making a living. Hell, if it ever became too much to deal
with, you could just quit, buy an island in the Galapagos, spend your
time tuning the engine on your Aston Martin, and lying on the beach,
while Serving-Wenches [tm] feed you grapes and fan you with palm
fronds. Myself however? Personally I enjoy my work and I'm managing
to pay my bills all at the same time, what more could I want? A
little sex once in a while might be nice. -Danny
--
<<<GET BLITZED!!!>>>
http://home.flash.net/~blitz/tunes.html
AMD450- MIDI- MIC-&-BALLS!
Hugh Jorifice
my town. I'm in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England and I do repaires for two
out of the three music shops in this town. And that still isn't enough to
look after me, I
have to have a full-time job as a TV, VCR & Camcorder tech as well. (as
well as my 2 bands, as
well as my domestic stuff, as well as my partner & our 2 kids!).
The repairs don't earn me much, I put an invoice into the stores every few
months for maybe a few hundred quid. Or, I'm partial to the odd bargain;
one store gave me a brand-new Gibson Les Paul Studio, FOC, for services
rendered. Alright, it had laquer flaking off the back of the headstock (ie,
a factory second), but when did someone last give YOU a new LP? The money
isn't great, but it's not me undercharging. There just isn't the volume of
work here.
I've only met a few famous people (and Les Gray out of Mud is NOT one of
them!), and I've never been invited to a party on the basis of being an amp
repairman. It never once even crossed my mind that it COULD be glamorous.
I mean, the other day at the TV store a customer threw his remote at me
because he couldn't tune his new VCR. At least with amps I'm dealing with
fellow musos, not assholes. A shitload of money? Doing this job in this
town? Forget it!
Basically, I love to tinker with the amps. I like learning as I work on
them. I like understanding them just a bit more than |I did yesterday. I
like getting them as good as they can be. I like going to gigs and hearing
one of 'my' amps.
I like going into a music store and being treated like royalty. Others get
the hard-sell. I get a coffee and biscuits.
Danny, you must have worked hard to get this far. You're an inspiration. I
feel like a beginner when I read your posts (and other posts from equally
esteemable persons).
I comfort myself with the knowledge that if you've achieved this much, I
MUST be younger than you!
Hugh Jorifice.
(Remove NOSPAM if replying personally)
"Danny Russell" <bl...@flash.net> wrote in message
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Hugh Jorifice
He has, according to the list on his catalogue, done amps, etc. for SRV,
Dave Gilmour, Sheryl Crow band, Lenny Kravitz, Jeff Healey band, Robert Cray
band, Steve Miller, The Eagles, Pat Travers band, Jefferson Starship, and
The Rolling Stones.
So what's the story? Are all these people poor judges of tone?
And what about his kits? Do they suck or not?
Kindest regards,
Hugh Jorifice.
(Remove NOSPAM if replying personally)
"nuke" <lar...@aol.com> wrote in message
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PMG
Hugh Jorifice wrote:
>
> Yes. But WHY? They can't all be like this, can they?
I don't know.
>
> He has, according to the list on his catalogue, done amps, etc. for SRV,
> Dave Gilmour, Sheryl Crow band, Lenny Kravitz, Jeff Healey band, Robert Cray
> band, Steve Miller, The Eagles, Pat Travers band, Jefferson Starship, and
> The Rolling Stones.
>
> So what's the story? Are all these people poor judges of tone?
Can you say that any of those people are actually good judges of what's
happened to their equipment? I don't know. Besides, you have the guy
do a mod for you, and if you have a recognizable name, then "poof"
you're on the list, right? Even if you decided it was a terrible mod.
>
> And what about his kits? Do they suck or not?
His kits are what he generally takes the most criticism for actually,
he'll sell you a bag of parts (several people here can do that) and bad
instructions, no support, and if he by some odd chance sent you the
wrong parts (reportedly anyhow) then tough shit for you, no refunds.
If you know how to do the mods that he sells kits for, then you could
not POSSIBLY have any use for his kits, and if you don't know how to do
the mods to start with, then you need to find someone who DOES know how
to do the mods, and that person has no need for the Torres kit, right?
Pete
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Hugh Jorifice.
> (Remove NOSPAM if replying personally)
--
Danny Russell
Hugh Jorifice wrote:
>
> Erm . . . really? I just get a kick out of being the "amp repair guy" in
> my town. I'm in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England and I do repaires for two
> out of the three music shops in this town. And that still isn't enough to
> look after me, I
> have to have a full-time job as a TV, VCR & Camcorder tech as well. (as
> well as my 2 bands, as
> well as my domestic stuff, as well as my partner & our 2 kids!).
Use your maintenence skills to lower your effective cost of living.
For example, make your car last twice as long as everyone elses, etc.
Developing some strict control over your immediate environment and
some fresh new habits puts you in charge of your own destiny.
Wasteful old habits keep you helplessly dependent. Forever.
> The repairs don't earn me much, I put an invoice into the stores every few
> months for maybe a few hundred quid. Or, I'm partial to the odd bargain;
> one store gave me a brand-new Gibson Les Paul Studio, FOC, for services
> rendered. Alright, it had laquer flaking off the back of the headstock (ie,
> a factory second), but when did someone last give YOU a new LP?
My brother sold me his Korean Epi LP for $300. I guess that's about
pretty close to free... ain't it?
> The money
> isn't great, but it's not me undercharging. There just isn't the volume of
> work here.
>
> I've only met a few famous people (and Les Gray out of Mud is NOT one of
> them!), and I've never been invited to a party on the basis of being an amp
> repairman. It never once even crossed my mind that it COULD be glamorous.
> I mean, the other day at the TV store a customer threw his remote at me
> because he couldn't tune his new VCR. At least with amps I'm dealing with
> fellow musos, not assholes. A shitload of money? Doing this job in this
> town? Forget it!
>
> Basically, I love to tinker with the amps. I like learning as I work on
> them. I like understanding them just a bit more than |I did yesterday. I
> like getting them as good as they can be. I like going to gigs and hearing
> one of 'my' amps.
>
> I like going into a music store and being treated like royalty. Others get
> the hard-sell. I get a coffee and biscuits.
Ya see? Now we've hit on something important. When I started making
decent money was after I realized that the stores were only pretending
to treat me nice so they could screw me every time I turned my back.
You havt'a start puttin up your own shingle. Only you know what's in
your own best interest.
> Danny, you must have worked hard to get this far. You're an inspiration. I
> feel like a beginner when I read your posts (and other posts from equally
> esteemable persons).
Like ol' Leo, I'll probably be slavin away till I croak. Ya see the
trick is to take periodic catnaps. Sorta makes you feel as if your
awake again. I can't envision retirement. Sitting around, just
waiting to die. Anyway, thank you for the kind words.
> I comfort myself with the knowledge that if you've achieved this much, I
> MUST be younger than you!
Actually I flatly refuse to grow up as you can tell from my posts. I
have a short attention span, I'm awkward in social situations, I
despise authority, whatever. I'm happy. My weekend begins tonight
(Monday off). -Danny
PinkStrat
artists, but SRV? I don't think so!
"Hugh Jorifice" <poetryinmo...@poetryinmotion.worldonline.co.uk>
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Mike Schway
<bl...@flash.net> wrote:
>Actually I flatly refuse to grow up as you can tell from my posts. I
>have a short attention span, I'm awkward in social situations, I
>despise authority, whatever. I'm happy. My weekend begins tonight
>(Monday off).
Forgive me if this an old one:
Son: Dad, when I grow up, I want to be a musician.
Dad: Sorry, son, you can't have it both ways.
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Maybe he just listened to SRV?!?!
Mike
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Miles O'Neal
>
> Maybe he has done practice amps for all of the mentioned list of groups and
> artists, but SRV? I don't think so!
Dan's been around a long time.
Robert M. Braught
up!
An additional 2c for ya, Hugh: I came to the realization that it often
takes the same amount of effort and material to fix either consumer crap
(TVs, VCRs, etc) or the odd bit of 'Professional' audio equipment; when
you charge $50 on a $50 piece of equipment, you get to absorb the 'bad
vibes' feelings from the disgruntled owner....... when it's a $1000
piece of equipment, you get to watch the owner do handsprings, and they
often tip too(!)....
As your work (gets?) is good enough, and you've stayed in one place long
enough, I'll bet you'll find people driving miles and miles to get to
you. Musicians and engineers are (in my experience) the most loyal
customer segment I could have hoped for; word of mouth, and all that.
Takes a while, but I believe it's inevitable for anyone in this
business; "Cream rises to the top."
Deciding to specialize was the best business decision I've ever made.
(I started off with the pawn shop accounts, general consumer crap, <let
anything in> and gradually weaned them off as the pro audio stuff picked
up. Today I feel for the daily contacts "where do I get my VCR fixed???"
but as I say, 'I don't have time to fix everything.')
-Robert
Danny Russell
Mike Schway wrote:
>
> Forgive me if this an old one:
>
> Son: Dad, when I grow up, I want to be a musician.
> Dad: Sorry, son, you can't have it both ways.
And to top it all off, I think I've already become my father. Not
completely sure how that figures into the equation. Need to mumble
under my breath more I 'spose. -Danny
dr.wow
especially if you've ever felt dwarfed by the universe .
A terribly two child can make the universe a very small thing .
dw (a mr. mom)
PS, it's not the mumbling, it's the uncontrollable eyebrow twitching
that lets you know you've arrived ....
Kraaannnggg!
added to my photo album as further proof the "custom amp" was built by
Dan Torres. It was $620.00 purchased on 10/11/93. Another detail I'm
not sure I made clear is that it was allready boosted to 60 watts before
Danny Russell remoddified it. The transformers are a Bassman power and
Boogie output, just some he had laying around I guess.
Click here to view my photo album of amps and guitars 37 photos and
growing, NEW!
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1297955&a=10452363
PMG
That's a take no prisoners Princeton. Is the output circuit on that amp
loosly based on a Bassman then?
Pete
--
I've been shoved off better doorsteps than yours,
I can assure you --Mr. Natural
Hugh Jorifice
amps that have been butchered, but that beats 'em all.
And Dan Torres did this?
Didn't he know that there's up to 500VDC floating around in there? One bump
in the car, one jolt up a flight of stairs, and you could have a wire broken
off with HALF A KILOVOLT on the end of it. Well done, Pete, for getting
this corrected. You're handling your 'The bastard could have killed me'
experience better than I ever could.
At the very least, he should keep his signal wires shorter than that. What
I mean by that is that if he DID use this amp as his 'guinea pig' to try out
new ideas, (never intending for it to be used on the road), then I'm sure
that despite his best intentions, it sounded like shite. I'd try and spell
'stray capacitance' for you but I probably can't.
I wish to state that, despite my tender years (ie, younger than Danny
Russell!) and years rather than decades of actual TUBE AMP experience, I
have never, ever, not in a billion years, ever done work like this. I am in
shock. It is so unbelievably piss-poor.
If there's too many components inside the amp (like on a bass 100W head I
converted to a 3 channel + reverb, simul-class guitar head, just for the
hell of it) I would rather add extra turrets to the board, or even get a
supplementary or a replacement board, than leave stuff floating in mid-air.
I always use PTFE insulated, high temperature cable (to BS2G210) for power
or 0V lines, sticking to 2 or 3 different colours for identification
purposes, and thick, screened cable for signal-carrying wires with the
screen earthed at one end. All leads are kept tidy with heat-proof cable
ties. IMHO safety & reliability are just as important as tone.
Does this make my work more reliable? Dunno. No-one has ever brought one
back.
So, Dan Torres, I expect YOU to buy MY book. I'm a beginner in comparison
to some of the friends I've made in this NG, but I can honestly say that my
standard of work is MUCH better than yours.
I am sooooo angry, so incensed that someone whose written work I have
studied so much, someone who has taught me so much and given me so much, can
have
turned a beautiful amp into a ticking time-bomb. If your hard enough, come
over here
and we'll have a fight. I'll beat you up in front of your chick, you
second-rate, Johnny no-mates loser.
Seasoning's Greetings, etc. (to everyone but DT)
Hugh Jorifice.
PS No-one's responded so far to confirm my suspicions, but I'll bet your
kits are a fucking death-trap as well.
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PMG
"Hugh Jorifice"
<poetryinmo...@poetryinmotion.worldonline.co.uk> wrote:
> Bloody hell! I've just cocked a snoop at your Photo album. I've seen
some
> amps that have been butchered, but that beats 'em all.
>
> And Dan Torres did this?
>
> Didn't he know that there's up to 500VDC floating around in there?
One bump
> in the car, one jolt up a flight of stairs, and you could have a wire
broken
> off with HALF A KILOVOLT on the end of it. Well done, Pete, for
getting
> this corrected. You're handling your 'The bastard could have killed
me'
> experience better than I ever could.
I get credit for all sorts of things I don't deserve credit for around
here. Slight miscomunication there, the amp belongs to Kraaannnggg! aka
Buzztone, him and Danny Russel >>get blitzed<< deserve the credit, not
me!
[........]
>
> Hugh Jorifice.
>
> PS No-one's responded so far to confirm my suspicions, but I'll bet
your
> kits are a fucking death-trap as well.
>
You have to figure that some will live to tell about it. Will the
scared mutants please form a line over there....
I saw it as being sloppy crowded insanity, but I'm not sure if they're
as unsafe as you're making them out to be. I'm sure more people have
gotten zapped installing his kits or doing a bad job of it than have
been zapped by using an amp that Dan did the work on.
Kraaannnggg!
circuit on that amp loosly based on a Bassman then?
I guess so because that circuit is closley based on the Naylor Super
Drive 60. The catalog for early Naylor amps says they are like a
Tweed/Plexi. The amp was slightly remodded later by Dan, not Torres,
with a dual-stage Master volume. The original master was not clean
enough when the master was on ten. After the new master volume, it has
tons of clean head room, and twiddled the other way, evan more scorching
gain.
Hugh Jorifice
> here. Slight miscomunication there, the amp belongs to Kraaannnggg! aka
> Buzztone, him and Danny Russel >>get blitzed<< deserve the credit, not
> me!
Ah ha. Right. Sorry gents, the mistake is mine, I'm sure.
Hi Buzztone, how are you. Nice amp.
Hi Danny, your work is a credit to you. It just proves what I said in
earlier posts.
> > PS No-one's responded so far to confirm my suspicions, but I'll bet
> your
> > kits are a fucking death-trap as well.
> >
> > You have to figure that some will live to tell about it. Will the
> scared mutants please form a line over there....
... and wait for the re-count so you can find out who your next president is
going to be.
> I saw it as being sloppy crowded insanity, but I'm not sure if they're
> as unsafe as you're making them out to be.
Pete, if there's one thing I'm sure of, it's that electricity should NOT be
messed around with. It should be treated with respect. The high voltages
inside tube amps are lethal.
If this NG had a health warning, it'd be TUBE AMPS ARE DANGEROUS. DON'T
MESS ABOUT UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING!
The wiring in that amp WAS sloppy and careless, and it's that sort of thing
that causes accidents. There was no indication of which wire did what.
Loose, floppy wires lead to broken solder connections and live wires
carrying up to 500VDC lying loose, ready to touch anything.
This is partly the reason why my personal amps all have mains plugs with
built-in RCD's in them. I try and fit them to amps I make or modify
wherever possible.
But hey, Torres didn't own that amp anymore; why should he care? Think
about it; what kind of damage is done to our trade's reputation with a 'big
name' tech doing shoddy work like that?
I'm sure more people have
> gotten zapped installing his kits or doing a bad job of it than have
> been zapped by using an amp that Dan did the work on.
You know what? I'm afraid you might be right.
Look at his client list; SRV, Dave Gilmour, Lenny Kravitz, & The Rolling
Stones amongst others. I'll bet he didn't treat THEIR amps with as much
disrespect.
To all those people on his client list; I can do the work better than Dan
Torres. When I modify an amp, I imagine what it would have looked like, had
the mod been done at the factory; caps held in proper clips, extra turrets
where required, cables fitted with grommets where necessary, quality
components, etc. Nothing moves, nothing is left unsafe. I'm a
professional. I work to professional standards. I do the best job I can.
It's a better job than THAT person can do. I mean, LOOK at the pictures!!!
I've calmed down a bit since my last post; sorry if my tone offended anyone.
It takes a lot to get me that riled.
I'd still like to know what's in them kits though.
Seasons' greetings,
cev...@my-deja.com
Acouple of the cheapest components that he could find (some of which are
most likely the wrong ones...), and the worst instructions I have erver
read........can Torres even SPEAK english???-he sure as hell can't write
it.....I can only wonder how his book reads?!?!? Oh yea....a book would
have had an editor that would have corrected half finished
sentences.........
Mike
> I'd still like to know what's in them kits though.
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i'd like to see comments on his brand-name amps. that'd prob'ly make
for a better basis in judging his workmanship & design skills than a mod.
btw, i stopped by to visit Dan yesterday & had a fine chat w/him.
nice guy. (cf. thread on stereo amps herein)
best,
jeff
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Kraaannnggg!
that sort of thing that causes accidents. There was no indication of
which wire did what. Loose, floppy wires lead to broken solder
connections and live wires carrying up to 500VDC lying loose, ready to
touch anything.
True, true, one and one is Two. About the only thing that wasn't redone
by Dan R. is the pilot light assembley, that CAUGHT ON FIRE! I've just
got a whole new piolet light assembly from Vibroworld, havn't yet had
time to install it. Since than, the wires have been dissconected. The
way Torres had it was two thin wires noodled thru somwhere with electric
tape (the black sticky kind) wrapped around the base of the bulb, no
socket, just stuffed like livers in a frozen turkey. Well, I guess it
was a real turkey, so why not?
All the before and after photos are in my photo album. BTW, Photo Point
is free and very easy to build your own photo album or just add a pic
click. It's Neato torpedo!
BTW Hugh, are you related to Max E. Pad?
Hugh Jorifice
> way Torres had it was two thin wires noodled thru somwhere with electric
> tape (the black sticky kind) wrapped around the base of the bulb, no
> socket, just stuffed like livers in a frozen turkey. Well, I guess it
> was a real turkey, so why not?
Yeah, good one. In his book he goes on about safety and so on, and about
standards. He doesn't practice what he preaches, does he?
> All the before and after photos are in my photo album. BTW, Photo Point
> is free and very easy to build your own photo album or just add a pic
> click. It's Neato torpedo!
It damn well is an'all. I'll be out with my Kodak Brownie and take a few
snaps myself. It's a brilliant idea, thanx for sharing!
> BTW Hugh, are you related to Max E. Pad?
No. I have a cousin named Hugh G. Rection, and my parents were Ivor Biggun
and Fanny Bucket. Quaint English names, don't you agree.
> Click here to view my photo album of amps and guitars 37 photos and
> growing, NEW!
> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1297955&a=10452363
>
Top idea. Give it a try, y'all.
cev...@my-deja.com
If you want to be blunt, then yes he is! Unfortunately, I found this
out after I bought one of his shitkits.........He just better hope I
never get the chance to meet him! Fuck him!
In article <20001220214627...@ng-fi1.aol.com>,
Kraaannnggg!
more like it but this one shines from Harmony Centrals Users
Reviews/Amps/Torres:
"Torres has a book with all kinds of mods to make your amp more
reliable : Added fuses, doide mods on the tube sockets, etc. I had these
mods in my amp when I sent it to him and he took them out. Also a few
months after I got the amp back, a wire on the tube filament supply came
unsoldered on its own. I'd be scared to use this amp without a back-up,
but then again it sounds to lousy to gig with, so it'll never leave my
basement (can't even sell it )
Customer Support: 1
Dan Torres was nice as can be when I contacted him about sending him my
amp for him to mod it. After I got it and was very unhappy with it's
sound, he was quite rude to me.
Overall Rating: 2
A HUGE disapointment. I could"
"a solid state Gorilla amp has a better distortion"
And more like it! You'll forget all about those blowing speakers or
burnt out tubes that are giving ya da blues Keep the laughs coming Dan,
may Santa put a big turd in your stocking!
More funnies here: Harmony Central®: Guitar: The Amp Database: Torres
Engineering
Address:http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data/Torres_Engineering/
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negative, by about an 8 to 2 margin. Based on that, how the hell does the guy
stay in business? New sucker born every day?
PMG
trem...@aol.com.no.uce (Censored Boards Suck) wrote:
Not everyone hangs out at aga, if they did, then Torres would need to
find another line of work. The guy couldn't have too many repeat
customers.
Pete
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