Problems with input jacks on Fender Hot Rod Deluxe
Tony Burdick
Rod Deluxe amp keep breaking and/or stripping for no apparent reason. My
question is has anybody experienced a similar problem, and if so what were
your solutions if any?
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Tony Burdick
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Miles O'Neal
>
> It seems as though the plastic threads on the input jacks on my Fender Hot
> Rod Deluxe amp keep breaking and/or stripping for no apparent reason. My
> question is has anybody experienced a similar problem, and if so what were
> your solutions if any?
This seems to be a common problem with most of the newer,
PCB-based amps. If there's room, replace it with a "real"
jack. If it's under warranty, ask your authorized repair
person if they will do that.
-Miles
Simply Steve
plastic. Zero damage with HEAVY use (not ABUSE). It ain't the construction
material, it the histrionics, the gimp-oid "dancing" and jumping around that
some of these young little turret's-sydrom-wanna-be's do that busts their shit
up.
My humble opinion, of course.
~Scuse me whilst I puke (hey, maybe I should work that into the act somehow....)
Steve
Kent Pearson wrote:
> On 29-Nov-2000, "Odin" <od...@flash.net> wrote:
>
> > Tony Burdick <TonyN...@GoodwinsHighEnd.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
> > > It seems as though the plastic threads on the input jacks on my Fender
> > > Hot
> > > Rod Deluxe amp keep breaking and/or stripping
> >
> > They're famous for that
> >
> > > for no apparent reason.
> >
> > Not exactly. See the word "plastic" in your description - that's the
> > reason. They can't handle the heat, banging around, jerking on, and
> > jamming
> > on that a nice metal jack can. Plus, they're just plain cheap and weak.
> >
> > > My question is has anybody experienced a similar problem,
> >
> > Yes, probably many people.
> >
> > > and if so what were
> > > your solutions if any?
> >
> > I replaced the jack that I used with a Switchcraft metal jack (before I
> > sold
> > the amp) and never had anothe problem - with the jacks. Now the PCB to
> > PCB
> > ribbon cables are another story......
>
> I want to know what people are DOING to their amps??? Yeah, sure, I'd
> rather have metal than plastic - anyday! We all know that plastic sucks
> next to metal. But some folks must really be rough with their gear. Modern
> cars have plastic bumpers too. And yeah, they break if you hit 'em. But
> seein' how we KNOW that, the idea is to not hit them. It's not like they're
> gonna start using metal again. What are people doing? Yanking the amp over
> by the input lead??? I don't know about you, but money doesn't grow in MY
> garden. I gotta take care of my shit!
>
> - KP
Odin
Kent Pearson
Odin
Kent Pearson <Blues...@aol.com> wrote in message news:G5kV5.2294
> I want to know what people are DOING to their amps??? Yeah, sure, I'd
> rather have metal than plastic - anyday! We all know that plastic sucks
> next to metal. But some folks must really be rough with their gear.
The funny thing is, I baby my gear at home and I'm very careful when
transporting it too. However, the law of averages says that if you drag
something in and out of your house, your practice room across town, and
countless bars (up the stairs, down the stairs, around the corner, down the
hall, past the pool tables, up on the stage, etc...) enough times, then play
it at high volumes (heat) for 4 or 5 hours at a time, then reverse the whole
process, then repeat every few days or weeks that things will eventually
break. Add to this intoxicated bar patrons, intoxicated musicians (it
happens), hurrying because the bar owners want you to load out your 6-piece
band and all your gear in 15 minutes, then it's raining outside and your
rushing even more, etc...gigging gear takes a certain amount of abuse. Why
do you think that the old war horse amps always look the part?
> Modern
> cars have plastic bumpers too.
Yopu can fix that - modern American trucks don't.
> And yeah, they break if you hit 'em. But
> seein' how we KNOW that, the idea is to not hit them. It's not like
they're
> gonna start using metal again.
I *try* to be careful, but at the saying goes, "shit happens". You ever
tripped over a guitar cord and pulled the amp over with it? Spilled a beer
in something? Had someone stick a mic stand or guitar stand into your amp?
It just seems like gigging puts equipment to the test.
> What are people doing? Yanking the amp over
> by the input lead???
Well......not on purpose.
> I don't know about you, but money doesn't grow in MY
> garden.
My money tree never budded either.
> I gotta take care of my shit!
Maybe I need a guitar tech to guard and haul my gear - then I can split my
$50 share of the gig money with another person. Shit, it already looks like
Lynyrd Skynyrd on the stage with 6 guys, and by the time we pay the band and
a sound guy I can't put gas in the truck and beer in the gut.
PMG
my SF Princeton (an accident!!) and it never bothered it at all, but my
Champ12 was able to brake itself all on it's own. It's input jack broke
for no other reason than I kept plugging my guitar cord into it (how
dare I do something abusive like what it was designed to do?) I just
hope Fender hasn't gotten worse in 10 years.
Pete
--
I've been shoved off better doorsteps than yours,
I can assure you --Mr. Natural
Lord Valve
jacks are dogshit. Solution: *OLD* Fender.
LV
Tony Burdick wrote:
> It seems as though the plastic threads on the input jacks on my Fender Hot
> Rod Deluxe amp keep breaking and/or stripping for no apparent reason. My
> question is has anybody experienced a similar problem, and if so what were
> your solutions if any?
>
Robert M. Braught
FWIW having done a few 'Switchcraft #12A retro-fits' on late model
Fenders for folks, I'll add that the circuit layout for noise (supply
induced hum) depends on the singular chassis ground provided *away from
the input jack* (one of the main pc board mounting posts/screws); if
someone wants to replace that plastic jack with a *real* metal
Switchcraft, you need to insulate the new 'all metal' jack from the
front panel to avoid a ground loop; fiber or plastic shoulder washers.
(Or modify the circuit to lift the other chassis ground connection.)
Cheers,
Robert
Lord Valve
use on Marshalls. Those are pretty stout. Robert's
right about the grounding...isolation is a must.
LV
Bill Jr.
My problem is exactly this:
on the left instrument input, the washer just spins, and its gotta be
underneith, where it's lock device isn't catching.
Was supposedly going to bring it in, my friend said he'd fix it in a snap,
however, is there a way of me doing it myself w/o taking it all apart?
Can't seem to reach up from the back....?
bill
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Stefan Markowitz
PMG schrieb in Nachricht <3A275A57...@mediaone.net>...
>I've done stupid things like dropping a window air conditioner on top of
>my SF Princeton (an accident!!) and it never bothered it at all, but my
>Champ12 was able to brake itself all on it's own. It's input jack broke
>for no other reason than I kept plugging my guitar cord into it (how
>dare I do something abusive like what it was designed to do?) I just
>hope Fender hasn't gotten worse in 10 years.
Now when I know that someone drops air conditioners on his amps,
I get very suspicious when he says "I didn´t do anything". :-)
Reminds to a Simpsons episode where Bart "did not do anything". :-)
(This is an awkward translation, I can view the German version only).
Stefan
PMG
Stefan Markowitz wrote:
>
> PMG schrieb in Nachricht <3A275A57...@mediaone.net>...
> >I've done stupid things like dropping a window air conditioner on top of
> >my SF Princeton (an accident!!) and it never bothered it at all, but my
> >Champ12 was able to brake itself all on it's own. It's input jack broke
> >for no other reason than I kept plugging my guitar cord into it (how
> >dare I do something abusive like what it was designed to do?) I just
> >hope Fender hasn't gotten worse in 10 years.
>
> Now when I know that someone drops air conditioners on his amps,
> I get very suspicious when he says "I didn´t do anything". :-)
They must mean they didn't do anything on purpose, I'm one of those
people who only believes in cause and effect. The effect of dropping
the air conditioner on the Princeton is that it now has a chip on the
volume control knob, so I wasn't being completely honest when I said it
didn't bother it at all, but to the best of my knowledge, it didn't
effect the operation.
> Reminds to a Simpsons episode where Bart "did not do anything". :-)
> (This is an awkward translation, I can view the German version only).
>
> Stefan
It looks like you have a good translator.
Pete
Miles O'Neal
>
> I have a lot of plastic stuff. 20 year old stomp boxes made ENTIRELY out of
> plastic. Zero damage with HEAVY use (not ABUSE). It ain't the construction
> material, it the histrionics, the gimp-oid "dancing" and jumping around that
> some of these young little turret's-sydrom-wanna-be's do that busts their shit
> up.
>
> My humble opinion, of course.
>
> ~Scuse me whilst I puke (hey, maybe I should work that into the act somehow....)
Even though his initials are SS, this tube guy gives
Simply Steve the Rant of the Week Award. It would
have won just for the "little turret's-sydrom-wanna-be's"
phrase, but the whole was even better than the sum of
the parts, and "Scuse me whilst I puke (hey, maybe I
should work that into the act somehow....)" was a nice,
thick, icing on the cake.
-Miles
RonSonic
<niel...@teleport.com> wrote:
>I have a lot of plastic stuff. 20 year old stomp boxes made ENTIRELY out of
>plastic. Zero damage with HEAVY use (not ABUSE). It ain't the construction
>material, it the histrionics, the gimp-oid "dancing" and jumping around that
>some of these young little turret's-sydrom-wanna-be's do that busts their shit
>up.
I'm gonna stick up for the kids, even if they're younger than my amps.
The cheap plastic crap made 20 years ago was a far higher grade of
cheap plastic crap than is made now. In the last 20 years vast
amounts of research have been expended on discovering exactly how
shoddy a piece of gear can be mad and still survive the warranty
period. The jacks that go on modern Fenders are pure unalloyed junk.
Sure, some guys can keep theirs working for a few years before they
break. Look at 'em hard, and they fall apart.
Face it a lot of MI gear is now made to consumer hell standards.
Ron
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Steve
Simply Steve
Miles O'Neal wrote:
> Simply Steve wrote:
> >
> > I have a lot of plastic stuff. 20 year old stomp boxes made ENTIRELY out of
> > plastic. Zero damage with HEAVY use (not ABUSE). It ain't the construction
> > material, it the histrionics, the gimp-oid "dancing" and jumping around that
> > some of these young little turret's-sydrom-wanna-be's do that busts their shit
> > up.
> >
> > My humble opinion, of course.
> >
> > ~Scuse me whilst I puke (hey, maybe I should work that into the act somehow....)
>
> Even though his initials are SS, this tube guy gives
> Simply Steve the Rant of the Week Award. It would
> have won just for the "little turret's-sydrom-wanna-be's"
> phrase, but the whole was even better than the sum of
> the parts, and "Scuse me whilst I puke (hey, maybe I
> should work that into the act somehow....)" was a nice,
> thick, icing on the cake.
>
> -Miles
<bow>
Thank you sir.
I'd like to thank my english teacher...
Actually I expected someone to start a list of people who have already done that.
Steve