Guitar: Jimi Hendrix vs Eddy Van Halen
Drums: Mitch Mitchell vs Alex Van Halen
Bass: Noel Redding vs Michael Anthony
or Billy Cox vs Michael Anthony
Vocals: Jimi Hendrix vs David Lee Roth
or: Jimi Hendrix vs Sammy Hagar
Jarl Sigurd
to listen to a classical guitar concerto by Jarl Sigurd
visit: http://www.ampcast.com/JarlSigurd
Guitar - It is a hard choice between Eddie Van Halen and Hendrix, I like Van
Halen better, but I think Hendrix was the better Guitarist.
Drums - Alex Van Halen
Bass, not sure (not listened to the bass on hendrix records)
This is what I would say.
Gerwyn
"Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message
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Eridan
>
>If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
>lineups of the Jimi Hendrix Experience and Van Halen compare?
>Who is the better musician in each category?
>
>Guitar: Jimi Hendrix vs Eddy Van Halen
>
Eddie, but jimi's songwriting was better IMO
>Drums: Mitch Mitchell vs Alex Van Halen
>
thats just funny, they both suck.
>Bass: Noel Redding vs Michael Anthony
Anthony
> or Billy Cox vs Michael Anthony
Cox
>
>Vocals: Jimi Hendrix vs David Lee Roth
Jimi
> or: Jimi Hendrix vs Sammy Hagar
>
Jimi
>Jarl Sigurd
>
>to listen to a classical guitar concerto by Jarl Sigurd
>visit: http://www.ampcast.com/JarlSigurd
>
>
>
"I don't listen to music. I hate all music."
- Johnny Rotten
>Drums: Mitch Mitchell vs Alex Van Halen
Mitch
>Bass: Noel Redding vs Michael Anthony
> or Billy Cox vs Michael Anthony
Noel
>Vocals: Jimi Hendrix vs David Lee Roth
> or: Jimi Hendrix vs Sammy Hagar
Jim and Jim
>
>Jarl Sigurd v Jarl Sigurd
Steve
>to listen to a totally shite
classical guitar concerto by Jarl Sigurd
>visit: http://www.ampcast.com/JarlSigurd
Pass
Nobody who ever spent any time listening to Hendrix would waste their
time comparing him & his bands to Eddy's, and I don't mean that as an
insult to EVH either, because I like him, but I sort of doubt that HE
wastes any time comparing himself to someone he doesn't resemble even
in a remote way.
Pete
On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 08:44:04 -0700, "Jarl Sigurd"
<jarls...@geocities.com> wrote:
--
Hey! You're not Frank Zappa!
--Pepper Mills to René Descartes
Mitchell's drumming.sounded pretty good to me.
What am I missing?
Curt Simon
Anybody who thinks Mitch Mitchell and AVH suck simply does not understand
drumming.
Mike Sandler
I think Hendrix was a better writer, in that he seemed to have cover alot
more ground in respect to tone, riffs, chords, etc. Ed has been a bit
repetitive since Carnal Knowledge, and sometimes I just want to hear him
outside of his "thing" (because I know he could probably play anything
well).
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Musically? Ed. Innovation? Both but, Jimi innovated with hardware creation
as well. Overall? Jimi. No doubt.
Mitch Mitchell. Period.
Michael Anthony has the better vocals without a doubt. Slight edge to
Anthony. Against Cox as well.
Vocals? Jimi. He sang. Roth and Hager ( I luv em both ) had different roles.
Can you imagine Roth or Hager singing "Red House"? Ugh.
Hans
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>
> I've always felt that Hendrix was hindered by the less-than-adequate
> equipment of the day whereas EVH benefited from the equipment of his day.
Jimi played out of tune due to the basic tremolos of the day. EVH had Floyd
Rose's.
I believe that VH I and all the early demos were done without
the Floyd Rose "whammy bar" thing.
Otherwise good post. :-)
John
Hendrix was more influential, but I like Eddie's playing over Hendrix's.
> Drums: Mitch Mitchell vs Alex Van Halen
Neither.
> Bass: Noel Redding vs Michael Anthony
> or Billy Cox vs Michael Anthony
They all fall into the "okay but not great" category. They kept good rhythm
but none stand out at all as exceptional bassists.
> Vocals: Jimi Hendrix vs David Lee Roth
Jimi obviously never intended to be a great vocalist, but if I have to
compare them then Dave tramples him. Neither one was a classicly trained
singer, but there was far more character in Dave's voice than Jimi's, though
Jimi had a lot of moments of his own during his slower blues numbers.
> or: Jimi Hendrix vs Sammy Hagar
Sammy was a generic screamer, Jimi wasn't technically gifted as a vocalist
but he could summon up some sincerity in his voice. I go for Jim.
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>Musically? Ed.
Why because he could read music? By that reasoning, I was a better
musician than Hendrix when I was 7. Ed's a great musician but Hendrix
was easily a superior musician.
Eddie is the greatest guitarist of all time. Hendrix doesn't come close.
Neither does Vai nor Satriani.
>
> Drums: Mitch Mitchell vs Alex Van Halen
Mitch. Alex sucks, if you take away his cymbals he won't be able to play.
>
> Bass: Noel Redding vs Michael Anthony
> or Billy Cox vs Michael Anthony
Hendrix. Have a listen to Hendrix playing bass on All Along the Watchtower.
>
> Vocals: Jimi Hendrix vs David Lee Roth
> or: Jimi Hendrix vs Sammy Hagar
Sammy is a great rock vocalist.
> Mitch. Alex sucks, if you take away his cymbals he won't be able to play.
Have you heard the intro to "Panama?"
Mike Sandler
Huh? You're kidding, right? Vai may be the best guitarist on the planet.
And what about Metheny, Holdsworth, Gambale? Ask Eddie himself if he's
better than Holdsworth.
Jimi and Eddie were both incredibly influential guitarists. Only Jarl would
come up with a thread asking to pick between them.
What's better? Lasagna or Filet Mignon?
Jaz
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"Jack A. Zucker" wrote:
> snip -
>
> What's better? Lasagna or Filet Mignon?
Jack,
How the hell can you even compare Lasagna or Filet Mignon .......apples and
oranges,
...... and what about Pizza ? ...... and Curried Lamb .... and ....
dw
dw
> Mitch. Alex sucks, if you take away his cymbals he won't be able to play.
Have you heard the intro from hot for teacher?
Yeck!
<< And what about Metheny, Holdsworth, Gambale? >Ask Eddie himself if he's
>better than Holdsworth. >>
Metheny hes ok,
Holdsworth is boring.
Gambale, three note ptonics
get old quick.
Doug
Thomas Riemer wrote:
try the intro from Billy Cobhams "Quadrant 4" ........
what's better ...... red wine ?
or .............capri pants.
dw
Both were groundbreaking in their day. Eddie had the blazing speed, but
I'd pick Jimi for style, creativity, and overall musicality.
>Drums: Mitch Mitchell vs Alex Van Halen
Mitch Mitchell, hands down. Could Alex have followed Jimi's mercurial
tempo changes??
>Bass: Noel Redding vs Michael Anthony
> or Billy Cox vs Michael Anthony
Are you forgetting that Jimi played the bass on many of the studio cuts?
Billy Cox for holding down the bottom line, definitely.
>Vocals: Jimi Hendrix vs David Lee Roth
> or: Jimi Hendrix vs Sammy Hagar
3-way tie. Hagar's better technically, David Lee is the ultimate "rock
star" front man, but there's something menacing about Jimi's vocals on
"Fire"...
-- Chuck, an old fart (and Hendrix worshipper, does it show??)
Drums: I like Alex VH a lot. I love his snare tone (fat and warm
sounding), technically they are both good players though. Backing some
of the most flamboyant musicians in history.
Bass: I like Noel redding as a bass player.
Vocals: Sammy has a very broad vocal range that I dont think DLR or
Jimi could even touch. BUT... i'm taking Jimi over either of them
because he plays guitar (Rythym / lead) AND sings lead vocals. Which in
itself adds some interesting features to his playing / singing. I cant
even sing backing tracks while holding a steady guitar rythym. For me
thats the f***in' hardest thing to do. Any one who can pull that off
gets my vote (SRV, Knopfler, billy gibbons are also amazing at singing /
playing).
As a pure vocalist, Sami wins hands down, but in the framework of a
band, and knowing how difficult it is to sing and pluck at the same
time... Gotta give my nod to Jimi.
Later,
Garrett
Jarl Sigurd wrote:
> If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
> lineups of the Jimi Hendrix Experience and Van Halen compare?
> Who is the better musician in each category?
>
> Guitar: Jimi Hendrix vs Eddy Van Halen
>
> Drums: Mitch Mitchell vs Alex Van Halen
>
> Bass: Noel Redding vs Michael Anthony
> or Billy Cox vs Michael Anthony
>
> Vocals: Jimi Hendrix vs David Lee Roth
> or: Jimi Hendrix vs Sammy Hagar
>
I disagree,
the opening drum
solo for "hot for teacher"
is great.
Mitch mitchell played drums
about as good as Noel played
bass(background noise).
Even to this day,
guitarist are still trying
to cop two inovative guitarists
tone and technique:
Eddie Van Halen-Jimi Hendrix.
My guess from observing
some of the replys on this thread is,
some people like to bagg on
the artists work they cant play.
Give it a break.
Doug
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Lasagna
--
Jamal
Guitarist for The Wealth Addicts
"We've got no rights when cops can kill."
-Justin Sane
> >If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
> >lineups of the Jimi Hendrix Experience and Van Halen compare?
> >Who is the better musician in each category?
> >
> >Guitar: Jimi Hendrix vs Eddy Van Halen
>
> Both were groundbreaking in their day. Eddie had the blazing speed, but
> I'd pick Jimi for style, creativity, and overall musicality.
True. The big difference is that with EVH, everything sounds alike. With
Jimi, NOTHING sounds alike. It's all different.
> >Drums: Mitch Mitchell vs Alex Van Halen
>
> Mitch Mitchell, hands down. Could Alex have followed Jimi's mercurial
> tempo changes??
Mitch Mitchell, a jazz drummer in rock, was/is one of the finest drummers
the world has seen. Alex is just another "rock" drummer. Players like him
are a dime a dozen. Go down to your nearest rehearsal complex, and listen
outside each room from the hall. You'll hear these guys all day and all
night long, each guaranteeing a bigger headache than a bottle of tequilla.
Show me ONE other Mitch Mitchell. I've got a drummer who plays that style
better than anyone I've ever heard. He's the ONLY drummer I've EVER played
with, in all these years, who can convincingly (and naturally) flow in that
mode. There AIN'T many, I can tell you.
> >Bass: Noel Redding vs Michael Anthony
> > or Billy Cox vs Michael Anthony
>
> Are you forgetting that Jimi played the bass on many of the studio cuts?
> Billy Cox for holding down the bottom line, definitely.
Jimi played a lot of the bass parts when Noel was in the band, as well as
when Noel wasn't around. (Listen to "Watchtower" for an example)
As far as I know, Billy Cox played almost ALL the bass parts after Noel
quit. Billy is one of the funkiest, root-bottom bass players ever. Always
going for the lowest notes, often times open notes, NO friggin' bass-wanker
pick in his hand, all fingers, always solid, chunky, funky, MOVING bass
lines that grooved. Without getting into the world of "funk" (then we get
to Johnny B Gayden (Albert Collins' Band) and Bootsy), he's tops. I wonder
why Yarl didn't want to try to compare him to Paul McCartney or Chris
Squire???? Stupid.
>
> >Vocals: Jimi Hendrix vs David Lee Roth
> > or: Jimi Hendrix vs Sammy Hagar
>
> 3-way tie. Hagar's better technically, David Lee is the ultimate "rock
> star" front man, but there's something menacing about Jimi's vocals on
> "Fire"...
David Lee Roth is the single best example of Lord Valve's description,
"catfight in a dumster". Every time he lets out one of those queer screams,
he sound's like someone just goosed him by surprise. Annoying beyond
belief, he ranks near the top of my list of "All-time WORST singers". A
posing bleached blond who likes to squeal like a piggie. Just what we all
need.
Sammy Hagar, on the other hand, has LOADS of talent and ability. He's been
doing good things for many years. He made Montrose a success, and saved VH
form the pits for a while, after revitalizing them. I'd like to hear DLR
attempt "Tell me why can't this be love". That'd be good for a few laughs!
Jimi had an entirely different kind of voice. Melodically, he often coppied
the "talking" vocal style of Dylan. The difference being, Jimi had tone to
his voice. Dylan doesn't. Listen to his ballads, Little Wing, Angel, 1983,
etc. Like it or not, his voice was the best suited for his music. And
apparently, a lot of people DO like it. Jimi sells far more records today
than when he was alive.
~kp
I'll second this. Eddie's a vastly underrated blues player. In fact I
think it's his blues phrasing (especially finger vibrato) that makes all
that flash sound so musical. It's the mortar between his bricks -- it ties
everything he does back to Chuck Berry and earlier. That's where Vai is
weak, I think -- he has the technique, but without the phrasing it doesn't
sound like "rock and roll." Just my opinion.
BTW, you can get Star Fleet Project on Napster (or you could, before they
shut it down -- try MusicCity now). The blues jam is called Blues Breaker,
after the old Clapton album that influenced EVH and Brian may so much.
Clapton said it was crap, but it's the best thing I've ever heard Ed play
except for "Stompin 8H."
Greg
I dare say Hendrix would be one of Satch's biggest fans. If Hendrix doesn't
come close then why does a guy that's been dead for 30 years outsell a guy
still living like VanHalen?
BTW, Satch has put out consistantly better product that Ed has for 15 years
now. Ed has a LOT of catching up to do.
Hans
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IMO of course. :)
Hans
> As far as I know, Billy Cox played almost ALL the bass parts after Noel
> quit. Billy is one of the funkiest, root-bottom bass players ever. Always
> going for the lowest notes, often times open notes, NO friggin' bass-wanker
> pick in his hand, all fingers, always solid, chunky, funky, MOVING bass
> lines that grooved. Without getting into the world of "funk" (then we get
> to Johnny B Gayden (Albert Collins' Band) and Bootsy), he's tops. I wonder
> why Yarl didn't want to try to compare him to Paul McCartney or Chris
> Squire???? Stupid.
> Sammy Hagar, on the other hand, has LOADS of talent and ability. He's been
> doing good things for many years. He made Montrose a success, and saved VH
> form the pits for a while, after revitalizing them.
They weren't exactly in the pits. They took a year off and got a new
singer. AC/DC did the same thing. Not a big deal.
> I'd like to hear DLR
> attempt "Tell me why can't this be love". That'd be good for a few laughs!
I laugh at that song because it sucks. It's a pussy song. If DLR sang
it I would only laugh because he would stoop so low.
> Jimi had an entirely different kind of voice. Melodically, he often coppied
> the "talking" vocal style of Dylan. The difference being, Jimi had tone to
> his voice. Dylan doesn't. Listen to his ballads, Little Wing, Angel, 1983,
> etc. Like it or not, his voice was the best suited for his music. And
> apparently, a lot of people DO like it. Jimi sells far more records today
> than when he was alive.
I agree with this last part.
Sven
Fuck Clapton. He stopped progressing as a player after 1968, and
hasn't played anything worth hearing since then either.
hey Eddie was never schooled and he doesn't read music upto this day.
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Hans
I agree. And even then, his style was nothing like Ed's. But he's the only
influence Ed ever cites. Based on Ed's playing I'd have guessed Hendrix,
Jimmy Page, and maybe Jeff Beck.
Greg
> Squire is better technically and musically than all of them.
Hard to comment further about a guy I can't even listen to. To each their
own I suppose. It ain't "BASS" to me though. And better than Johnny B
Gayden??? I dare say you haven't listened to the man.
> They weren't exactly in the pits. They took a year off and got a new
> singer. AC/DC did the same thing. Not a big deal.
A damned good move, as far as VH is concerned.
> > I'd like to hear DLR
> > attempt "Tell me why can't this be love". That'd be good for a few
> > laughs!
> I laugh at that song because it sucks. It's a pussy song.
Maybe that's why I like it. I like songs that get pussy. Especially if I'm
playing them.
> If DLR sang it I would only laugh because he would stoop so low.
Oh, yeah! "Just A Gigolo" was soooooo much better, eh?
~kp
> Fuck Clapton. He stopped progressing as a player after 1968, and
> hasn't played anything worth hearing since then either.
<honnnnnnnnnnk!!!!!> Sorry, wrong answer!
~kp
> >If you compare them as musicians,
> >then EVH gets the nod. He was schooled and can read and write music.
>
> hey Eddie was never schooled and he doesn't read music upto this day.
a moot point, considering the most successful popular artists of the past
century couldn't read a note either. Beatles, Elvis, Hendrix, Clapton, and
about 1,000 more. Apparently, reading has little to nothing to do with it.
~kp
> >This is a troll, right? Van Halen is a beer commercial. A neck-tickler,
> >makes
> >me yawn. Like Al DeMeola--lots of notes with no artistry.
Yeah, DeMeola, Alan Holdsworth, John McLaughlin, and all them other cats
that got stuck on practicing scales and bullshit noodling that says nothing
and has nothing to do with real music. Their notes have more than a little
in common with the Emperor's New Clothes!
>> Hendrix was in another dimension compared to Eddie Van Halen.
Only a troll would make the comparison. but then, didn't Yarl start this
one?
> Definetly a troll. Jimi is god. Eddie is a one trick pony, lotsa
> notes but not saying much. Lotta shuckin and jivin' goin on but
> like...so what?
Amen, amen, AMEN!!!! It's absolutely amazing, the celophane and tinsel that
dazzles some folks. You have to wonder, how deep is their world???? Wow!!!
What a world!
~kp
I wouldnt want to fuck him,
but I never really was much
of a Clapton fan,
feel the same way about Al bros.
To boring.
For me its:
Jimmy Page
Jimi Hendrix
Robin Trower
Micheal Schenkner
Blackmore
and so on.
I dont mind cliche'
players if they do
it a little differently,
but Clapton is boring,
I would take Buddy Guy
over him any day.
Doug
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:37:57 GMT, "Greg Ross" <greg...@home.com>
wrote:
I couldnt agree with you more!
These guys bore me,
and they have no feeling what so ever.
Sure they can shred,
so can I.
Big deal.
Phrasing and feel
are everything.
I never get tired of Jimmy page,
and I've been listening to him
for over 30yrs.
Hendrix too.
Doug
I would have to also add many of the Euro-metal players like Schenker
and Roth. I mean, he never would have developed his extremely fast
style (okay, by the average person's standards) just by the inlfuence
of basic blues players from the 60s.
Nice try, idiot redneck. Keep fucking those one-tooth lowlife's in
your trailer park, and don't cut the mullet!!!!
> > If DLR sang it I would only laugh because he would stoop so low.
>
> Oh, yeah! "Just A Gigolo" was soooooo much better, eh?
No, not really, just shows how fucking goddamned bad the
aforementioned song is by comparison.
I perefer Jimi On everything but hey i havn't herd buch Van Halen.
MuTe
> I would have to also add many of the Euro-metal players like Schenker
> and Roth. I mean, he never would have developed his extremely fast
> style (okay, by the average person's standards) just by the inlfuence
> of basic blues players from the 60s.
Michael told me, some years back, that his biggest influences were Leslie
West and Jeff Beck.
~kp
> Nice try, idiot redneck. Keep fucking those one-tooth lowlife's in
> your trailer park, and don't cut the mullet!!!!
>
> > > If DLR sang it I would only laugh because he would stoop so low.
> >
> > Oh, yeah! "Just A Gigolo" was soooooo much better, eh?
>
> No, not really, just shows how fucking goddamned bad the
> aforementioned song is by comparison.
Mannnn . . . . ., Hard to believe, but you're sounding more like that little
sissy poser, Davie Lee, all the time! Go, man, go! I love it! Hey, lemme
here you do that trademark "just-goosed-me-in-the-ass" squeal like DLR can't
resist throwing several places in every song. I'll bet you'd do it just
right, now wouldn'tcha? Especially right about now!! ;-)) Man, that's
REALLY some cool shit!! Almost as cool as you. How's he DO that??? (On the
side, I'll bet you like Billy Squire too, don'cha?)
~kp
> >>Drums: Mitch Mitchell vs Alex Van Halen
> >>
> >
> >thats just funny, they both suck.
> >
>
> Mitchell's drumming.sounded pretty good to me.
> What am I missing?
You know too much.
~kp
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!
KP,
that was funny.
Stroke me stroke me!
Doug
> Jimi played out of tune due to the basic tremolos of the day. EVH had
> Floyd
> Rose's. Jimi used Orange amps ( which really sucked )
Oh, REALLY??? When and where was THAT? I thought I'd read everything about
his gear, the Fenders, the Sunns, right down to the serial numbers of his
guitars and Marshalls. I must have overlooked something. I'm sure that at
jams, he played whatever was there . . but can you provide a reference to
the source of this information?
> Remember, that without Jimi's innovation and equipment tweaking which
> resulted in effects and amps being better, Ed couldn't have got the sound
> he got.
Not to mention that it wouldn't have even occured to him.
> Vocals? Jimi. He sang. Roth and Hager ( I luv em both ) had different
> roles.
Correct
> Can you imagine Roth or Hager singing "Red House"? Ugh.
I can't imagine Roth singing *anything*. He's like nails on a chalkboard.
One of the worst I've ever heard. At least Hagar can sing, albeit a
different style. I've never heard DLR do anything more than squeal like a
little piggy. Most impressive. A squealer and a neck tickler. Holy shit!!
~kp
> Eddie is the greatest guitarist of all time. Hendrix doesn't come close.
> Neither does Vai nor Satriani.
That's "humor", isn't it?
~kp
> Michael told me, some years back, that his biggest influences were Leslie
West and Jeff Beck.
THAT makes a lot of sense.
My guess was always Perry and Blackmore. Eddie met Perry and
Blackmore early in his career and pissed them both off, so I guess
that's why he never cited them as an influence.
John
> Nonsense. You just stopped listening, that's all. Eric Clapton is
> all about progressing not just as a player but as a singer, songwriter
> and human being as well.
Just like Eddie, right?
John
>I would have to also add many of the Euro-metal players like Schenker
>and Roth. I mean, he never would have developed his extremely fast
>style (okay, by the average person's standards) just by the inlfuence
>of basic blues players from the 60s.
Do you consider Alvin Lee one of the basic blues players from the 60s?
> Do you consider Alvin Lee one of the basic blues players from the 60s?
Very Anglo-fied, and not very basic, IMO
~kp
Anyone lumping Holdsworth and McLaughlin in with Dimeola...Well, I guess I
can understand how the topic of this thread got started. Unclog those ears!
--
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His technique was probably the most advanced out of all the players to
come out of the late-60s (besides Beck), but I would still have to say
by comparison, technically speaking, Euro-metal players from the
early/mid-70s totally blow him away, as well as any of the other
British blues players.
That's because those were the only players before him that he could
cite as influences. Schenker is one of the players before Van Halen.
Schenker didn't have Schenker or an Akermann to influence him.
I doubt that most people have ever even heard Holdsworth actually. I
have a vinyl record by the guy, I think I liked him at the time, but
it's so long ago, I don't even remember what he sounded like. GP mag
was writing about him then.
Pete
--
Hey! You're not Frank Zappa!
--Pepper Mills to René Descartes
> > Yeah, DeMeola, Alan Holdsworth, John McLaughlin, and all them other
> > cats
> > that got stuck on practicing scales and bullshit noodling that says
> nothing
> > and has nothing to do with real music.
>
> Anyone lumping Holdsworth and McLaughlin in with Dimeola...Well, I guess I
> can understand how the topic of this thread got started. Unclog those
> ears!
I'd like to, but they just clog back up when those guys start noodling.
Really Jack, that's some stuff only a select few guitarists can get into.
If you're one of them, more power to you. It all sounds like a bee in a box
to me.
~kp
~kp
Jack left "Frip" out of that line up,
those guys have no feeling.
There was a brief time when
I listened to Dimeola,
but it got old quick.
One note played well,
is better than 50 played
fast.
Just my 2cents.
Doug
My mom surprised me last week by pulling my old 'Axis Bold as Love' and 'Are
You Experienced' albums out of a box in the attic. I listened to those
albums night and day on an old RCA player. Here it is some 30 years later
and Hendrix is just as fresh IMO. If only I had all those old Creem mags
though.......
Hans
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Of course Brain May is a better blues player... that goes without saying.
Garrett
>record.
jimmyd wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:53:30 -0700, HPIman <HPI...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Guitar: Different styles, Jimi is blusier in his playing while eddie is
> >fast and furious. Pick - em. Personally I like Eddie better, but on
> >reccord Jimi is "blusier" IMHO. FYI, Eddies best work is NOT on any VH
> >record. IN 82-83 He and Brian may teamed up for a blues based mini LP
> >called Brian May and Friends. Some of eddies best released work is on
> >this record. Tons of soulfull blues licks all over this record. I'm
> >glad I bought mine when I did because they havent released it on CD yet
> >as far as I know.
>
> I remember this one differently. In fact this was the album which
> made me realize that Eddie was pigeon-holed into a style and that was
> all he really could do. This further came to light at a benefit
> concert where he played with Albert Lee and I believe Steve Morse
> (someone correct me on this one). Anyhow they played real songs and
> not some VH hard rock boogie progressions and basically Eddie had to
> leave the stage after a bit because his bag o'tricks got old fast.
> That bullshit symetrical fingering shit sounds way kewl everynow and
> then but gets old fast as do random pinch harmonics and gratuitous
> whammy abuse and dive bombs. Yes I love Eddie and early VH but he
> ain't and never will be Hendrix. Hendrix played DEEP, to me Eddie
> skitters across the surface.
>
> But back to the album in question, Brian May kicked Eddies butt on
> that record in my recollection. I further recall that Eddie didn't
> really want it released but Brian May goaded him into it. Eddie kept
> playing the same solo more or less take after take. Anybody want my
> copy email me. $30 and its yours providing I can locate that piece of
> shit.
>
> jimmyd
Gantt
In article <cIU67.18232$sE4.3...@news6.giganews.com>, "Jack A. Zucker"
<j...@gwis.com> wrote:
Vai may be the best guitarist on the planet.
--
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
In article <7Ll77.22851$sE4.4...@news6.giganews.com>, "Jack A. Zucker"
<j...@gwis.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone lumping Holdsworth and McLaughlin in with Dimeola...Well, I guess I
> can understand how the topic of this thread got started. Unclog those ears!
>
> --
> web: http://w3.gwis.com/~jaz
--
just my humble opinion tho.
marc
Jarl Sigurd wrote in message ...
>
>If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
>lineups of the Jimi Hendrix Experience and Van Halen compare?
>Who is the better musician in each category?
>
>Guitar: Jimi Hendrix vs Eddy Van Halen
>
>Drums: Mitch Mitchell vs Alex Van Halen
>
>Bass: Noel Redding vs Michael Anthony
> or Billy Cox vs Michael Anthony
>
>Vocals: Jimi Hendrix vs David Lee Roth
> or: Jimi Hendrix vs Sammy Hagar
>
>
>Jarl Sigurd
>
>to listen to a classical guitar concerto by Jarl Sigurd
>visit: http://www.ampcast.com/JarlSigurd
>
>
>
Hans
"Scott Colborn" <kcol...@inetnebr.com> wrote in message
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Now, I don't know where all this is going, but,....................
EVH, does what EVH does.
Hendrix, does what Hendrix does.
Holdsworth, does what Holdsworth does.
McLaughlin, does what McLaughin does.
Dimeola, does what Dimeola does.
The fact their music is know to the world is testament to the fact their
music was literate enough for consumption.
Regards,
Rich Koerner,
Time Electronics.
http://www.timeelect.com
Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,
Music & Studio Production,
Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers
> The fact their music is know to the world is testament to the fact their
> music was literate enough for consumption.
Rap is known to the world too. Now I'm confused.
~kp
Interesting, the word "consumption" in Merriam-Webster's online
dictionary http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm :
"Main Entry: con·sump·tion
Pronunciation: k&n-'s&m(p)-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English consumpcioun, from Latin consumption-,
consumptio, from consumere
Date: 14th century
1 a : a progressive wasting away of the body especially from
pulmonary tuberculosis b : TUBERCULOSIS
2 : the act or process of consuming
3 : the utilization of economic goods in the satisfaction of wants or
in the process of production resulting chiefly in their destruction,
deterioration, or transformation"
So, being "literate enough for consumption" doesn't necessarily make
it good.
Eddie (specifically the day I heard the VH1 album the first time) was
the reason I learned to play and he's a complete guitar genius but
then again so was Jimi (in a different way) remove either one from
history and rock guitar would be different than it is today, IMHO.
BTW: Eddie's VH1 Tone (combined with his technique) still blows my
mind, I'm going to go spin that disc right now.
EVH great guitar player, no question, innovative as well
Hendrix is the measuring stick that all are compared too
Will EVH be as popular as Hendrix is 30 years after his death?
"Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message
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PMG wrote:
>
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:54:58 GMT, "Kent Pearson"
> <KentP...@aol.coma> wrote:
>
> >
> >On 26-Jul-2001, Rich Koerner <ri...@timeelect.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The fact their music is know to the world is testament to the fact their
> >> music was literate enough for consumption.
> >
> >Rap is known to the world too. Now I'm confused.
> >
> >~kp
>
> Interesting, the word "consumption" in Merriam-Webster's online
> dictionary http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm :
>
> "Main Entry: con新ump暗ion
> Pronunciation: k&n-'s&m(p)-sh&n
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Middle English consumpcioun, from Latin consumption-,
> consumptio, from consumere
> Date: 14th century
> 1 a : a progressive wasting away of the body especially from
> pulmonary tuberculosis b : TUBERCULOSIS
> 2 : the act or process of consuming
> 3 : the utilization of economic goods in the satisfaction of wants or
> in the process of production resulting chiefly in their destruction,
> deterioration, or transformation"
>
> So, being "literate enough for consumption" doesn't necessarily make
> it good.
>
> Pete
There you go!!!
Pete, you are on sharpie fine point dude!!!!!!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................?????????????????????/
<thinking>
Now I know there is at least one more who understands me now.
"I enjoyed this thread"
Cool,
Now lets compare Hound Dog Taylor and Bruce Springstein
db
Are you harmonically impaired?
Jimmy and Randy were pioneers, but EVH had a better sense of technical
music than both, by far.
I have always thought Jimmy and Rhodes couldn't build a phrase in a solo if
they had a blueprint IMHO.
Don't get me wrong, I like Jimmy and Randy Rhodes tunes. I really like
Randy Rhodes Paranoid variations, and love the popular Hendrix tunes.
In contrast I think Eddie VH is a conceited, horses ass who thinks all
should worship him, when he should be thanking his fans for his fame. (I met
him at a production job in St. Paul, MN). But I still think he has a better
technical sense of just what sounds good.
Bryan
> "LouE" <Louis...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:1sq87.55156$C81.4...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "I enjoyed this thread"
>
> Cool,
> Now lets compare Hound Dog Taylor
12 fingers
> and Bruce Springstein
just 10
>
> db
dw
>I enjoyed this thread
>
>EVH great guitar player, no question, innovative as well
>
>Hendrix is the measuring stick that all are compared too
>
>Will EVH be as popular as Hendrix is 30 years after his death?
hard to say, look at SRV, as soon as he died he turned into some
overnight legend.....hendrix's carreer wasn't very long at all, i
suspect EVH would be remembered like them only if he died in some
horrible manner.....not cancer. try going down in a chopper or choking
on your own vomit.
>
>
>"Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message
>news:CtC67.47811$TW.2...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
>>
>> If you had to compare them as individual musicians, how would the
>> lineups of the Jimi Hendrix Experience and Van Halen compare?
>> Who is the better musician in each category?
>>
>> Guitar: Jimi Hendrix vs Eddy Van Halen
>>
>> Drums: Mitch Mitchell vs Alex Van Halen
>>
>> Bass: Noel Redding vs Michael Anthony
>> or Billy Cox vs Michael Anthony
>>
>> Vocals: Jimi Hendrix vs David Lee Roth
>> or: Jimi Hendrix vs Sammy Hagar
>>
>>
>> Jarl Sigurd
>>
>> to listen to a classical guitar concerto by Jarl Sigurd
>> visit: http://www.ampcast.com/JarlSigurd
>>
>>
>>
>
>
"I don't listen to music. I hate all music."
- Johnny Rotten
> What a retarded thread. This is like asking "Which is better for
> sandwiches: mayonnaise or mustard?". Answer: They're both an essential
> part of the sandwich landscape and I'm glad we don't have to pick.
Bollocks. Mayonnaise is much better in sandwhiches. Everyone knows that
mustard is best with chips.
> Even if you don't like one of the two, you'd have to be a total
> goofball (ie Jarl) not to recognize their importance or influence.
Name one musician who has been influence by mustard.
I rest my case.
> Eddie (specifically the day I heard the VH1 album the first time) was
> the reason I learned to play and he's a complete guitar genius but
> then again so was Jimi (in a different way) remove either one from
> history and rock guitar would be different than it is today, IMHO.
But Ritchie Blackmore is still the greatest.
>> >me yawn. Like Al DeMeola--lots of notes with no artistry.
>
>Yeah, DeMeola, Alan Holdsworth, John McLaughlin, and all them other cats
>that got stuck on practicing scales and bullshit noodling that says nothing
>and has nothing to do with real music. Their notes have more than a little
>in common with the Emperor's New Clothes!
Yeah, but when I heard Al play with *restraint* with Chick and
Stanley and Lenny White - whoa. He's always hitting the Spanish/Gypsy
thing, but for that band...I saw that lineup about 10 years ago in a
nice symphony hall. Yowza. Unfortunately, restraint is not his usual
style, but when he does it ...
Ya' wanna know what's gonna be on Muzak next ? Britney.
Believe it, they did it with Paula Abdul, Janet Jackson, etc. "Crazy
Train" is in the SUV commercials aimed at folks in my age group.
Shee - it. Who's our next Carl Perkins, Hendrix, Chet Atkins ?
And what the heck's keeping them ?
And why don't we have those Dick Tracy SVT-Watches yet ?
Or Voodoo Child???
heheheheh...naaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!
Steve
Ha, not so fast: Frank Zappa. Obvious mustard influence,
particularly Gulden's Spicey Brown. No snooty Coleman's
for ole Frankie.
>
> But Ritchie Blackmore is still the greatest.
At making interesting sounds, and smashing TV cams,
no doubt!!
Steve
Kurt Cobain has more ngoing respect though not as great a guitarist - better
songwriter than SRV, but then again who can blame Kurt for his shotgun
labotomy considering the shit hand he had. Money is nothing.
> I don't thionk SRV is remembered as a legend at all.
VH1 seemed to think so.
~kp
Anthony wrote:
> Kurt Cobain has more ngoing respect though not as great a guitarist - better
> songwriter than SRV, but then again who can blame Kurt for his shotgun
> labotomy considering the shit hand he had. Money is nothing.
The only shit hand Kurt Nobrain had is when it comes to his guitar
playing.
To quote S.O.D:
Can't take it, never could
Time to end it, wish you would
Friends and family, they're all gone
Life to you is just a con
Dig yourself a hole in the ground
Push up daisies six foot down
Take a dirtnap, buy the farm
Inject a bubble in your arm
Kill yourself, kill yourself!
Why don't you kill yourself?
Don't rely on no one else
Go ahead and kill yourself!
'The Ballad of Kurt Cobain':
"You're Dead!!!!"
On 3-Aug-2001, "Anthony" <kill...@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
> Certainly not as revered as Cobain - for better or worse.
Maaaannnn . . . . ., You gotta be high on some BAD shit, dude. I don't know
what it is, but whatever it is, I know I don't want any of it!! Phew!!!
Unbelievable!
~kp
> It's easy to criticise but his songs were good and so were his lyrics.
Actually, I rather liked the video of Wierd Al Y. doing the Teen Spirit
parody. Especially the "mouth full of marbles" bit.
~kp
Hector
"Kent Pearson" <Electri...@aol.coma> wrote in message
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As far as guitar legends go you can't get more legendary than SRV...Hendrix
and maybe R Johnson and Gatton... you have heard of those guys, haven't
you?
you need to lay off the crack pipe dude
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> >
BTW, what is wrong with those black velvet portraits of the king?
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