Blues Junior EQ setting help needed
Kenneth J.
<micha...@nospammindspring.com> wrote:
>I need some help. I have a Blues Junior through which I am playing a
>dual HB (Dimarzio PAF/ PAF pro) guitar with a coil tap and phase
>control. I can get a pretty wide variety of tones from the guitar.
>Single coil and HB sounds as well. My problem is this: I am having
>trouble adjusting the EQ on the amp. I cannot hit the right
>combination of bass, mids and treble. All I can seem to dial in is a
>muddy tone. I set the master about half way as well as the volume. I
>know the amp is in fine working order. Its my tone selection that
>needs some fine tuning. What should the relationship of bass, mids
>and highs be? I have two volume controls on the guitar, one for
>bridge and neck. I just cant seem to hit the right combination. If
>anyone out there has some advice for me Id surely appreciate the help.
>I am going for a kind of Jimmy Vaughan (I know...I know...Ive read the
>past posts on what some people think of his tone, bit I like it
>anyway) type of tone. A little driven but kind of fat. Well, as much
>as I can get through my particular amp and guitar comination. Id
>appreciate any advice you guys might have for me. Thanks in advance.
>If anyone has had sucess with getting other kinds of tones from this
>amp, Id like to hear what they have to say also. Thanks again.
>Mike <micha...@nospammindspring.com>
>
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Get a Strat !!! I find the EQ section on my blues Junior to
be of little value myself...I "tone" my sound with my guitar
(strat of course).
ken
micha...@nospammindspring.com
Lee Hagen
wrote:
>In article <365df548....@news.mindspring.com>,
> <micha...@nospammindspring.com> wrote:
I've got one. We have a tolerate/hate relationship.
Best way to describe it is like placing a decent amp at the end of
twenty foot long plastic pipe that funnels down to about eight inches
in diameter where you're listening to it. Ok for practicing.
But... If you twist the volume and master to at least halfway, then
the distortion starts to sound ok. Better plug your ears though.
Just my opinion.
Lee Hagen
Delafield, WI
Lee Hagen
wrote:
>In article <365df548....@news.mindspring.com>,
> <micha...@nospammindspring.com> wrote:
>>I need some help. I have a Blues Junior through which I am playing a
>>dual HB (Dimarzio PAF/ PAF pro) guitar with a coil tap and phase
>>control. I can get a pretty wide variety of tones from the guitar.
>>Single coil and HB sounds as well. My problem is this: I am having
>>trouble adjusting the EQ on the amp. I cannot hit the right
>>combination of bass, mids and treble. All I can seem to dial in is a
>>muddy tone. I set the master about half way as well as the volume. I
>>know the amp is in fine working order. Its my tone selection that
>>needs some fine tuning. What should the relationship of bass, mids
>>and highs be? I have two volume controls on the guitar, one for
>>bridge and neck. I just cant seem to hit the right combination. If
>>anyone out there has some advice for me Id surely appreciate the help.
>>I am going for a kind of Jimmy Vaughan (I know...I know...Ive read the
>>past posts on what some people think of his tone, bit I like it
>>anyway) type of tone. A little driven but kind of fat. Well, as much
>>as I can get through my particular amp and guitar comination. Id
>>appreciate any advice you guys might have for me. Thanks in advance.
>>If anyone has had sucess with getting other kinds of tones from this
>>amp, Id like to hear what they have to say also. Thanks again.
>>Mike <micha...@nospammindspring.com>
Oh yeah.... One other thing. About those tone control settings.
Doesn't matter where you put them. Nothing helps. Sell it and step
up to a Deluxe. Major improvement in sound.
Lee
stevi...@hotmail.com
ksha...@csc.umd.edu (Kenneth J.) wrote:
> In article <365df548....@news.mindspring.com>,
> <micha...@nospammindspring.com> wrote:
> >I need some help. I have a Blues Junior through which I am playing a
> >dual HB (Dimarzio PAF/ PAF pro) guitar with a coil tap and phase
> >control. I can get a pretty wide variety of tones from the guitar.
> >Single coil and HB sounds as well. My problem is this: I am having
> >trouble adjusting the EQ on the amp. I cannot hit the right
> >combination of bass, mids and treble. All I can seem to dial in is a
> >muddy tone. I set the master about half way as well as the volume. I
> >know the amp is in fine working order. Its my tone selection that
> >needs some fine tuning. What should the relationship of bass, mids
> >and highs be? I have two volume controls on the guitar, one for
> >bridge and neck. I just cant seem to hit the right combination. If
> >anyone out there has some advice for me Id surely appreciate the help.
> >I am going for a kind of Jimmy Vaughan (I know...I know...Ive read the
> >past posts on what some people think of his tone, bit I like it
> >anyway) type of tone. A little driven but kind of fat. Well, as much
> >as I can get through my particular amp and guitar comination. Id
> >appreciate any advice you guys might have for me. Thanks in advance.
> >If anyone has had sucess with getting other kinds of tones from this
> >amp, Id like to hear what they have to say also. Thanks again.
> >Mike <micha...@nospammindspring.com>
> >
>
> be of little value myself...I "tone" my sound with my guitar
> (strat of course).
> ken
Turn the volume and tone controls on your guitar wide open. Leave the "Fat"
switch on the BJ off. Try some new strings. If it's still too muddy, get a
guitar with single coils like Ken suggests.
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>srd
If your pickups have four conductor wiring.. get push pull pots and
wire for single/dual choice.
Cut the mids on your amp to zero, first..
and remember the humbucks are fat already, as srd suggests.
Twang!
realname
Lee Hagen wrote in message <365eaff0...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>Best way to describe it is like placing a decent amp at the end of
>twenty foot long plastic pipe that funnels down to about eight inches
>in diameter where you're listening to it. Ok for practicing.
>
I have to agree. I took mine back after spending a frustrating week trying
to
get a sound I could tolerate for more than a few minutes, and I play a
strat. A
couple of months ago, I picked up an old silver-face Fender Princeton Reverb
and have yet to find a sound I DON'T like. Tonal nirvana!
I'd suggest finding a used Princeton Reverb or Deluxe Reverb. You won't be
sorry!
David Bernath
Sonny Ward
at all volume levels. I cconsider it a small Tone Master.
Not A Speck Of Cereal
[] I need some help. I have a Blues Junior through which I am playing a
[] dual HB (Dimarzio PAF/ PAF pro) guitar with a coil tap and phase
[] control. I can get a pretty wide variety of tones from the guitar.
[] Single coil and HB sounds as well. My problem is this: I am having
[] trouble adjusting the EQ on the amp. I cannot hit the right
[] combination of bass, mids and treble.
Right for what?
[] All I can seem to dial in is a
[] muddy tone. I set the master about half way as well as the volume. I
[] know the amp is in fine working order. Its my tone selection that
[] needs some fine tuning. What should the relationship of bass, mids
[] and highs be? I have two volume controls on the guitar, one for
[] bridge and neck.
And what do you set them at?
I've got the Blues Jr. too and for my ES335 copy, I start it up like
so:
a) crank the volume knobs on the guitar
b) adjust appropriate volume on the amp (more below)
c) adjust tone on the guitar
d) adjust tone on the amp
e) then only use the volume knob to bring down the volume if you have
to. Learn that you can learn to control dynamics with your picking
style (get louder or softer by picking harder and softer).
Beyond that, you have to realize
-- the FAT button will effect tone. Try all of the above without it
(make sure it is not in the depressed position) first
-- that dropping the volume on the guitar will do more than simply
adjust output -- it will change the tone as well, usually rolling off
highs first. (less so with dual-coil pickups, but still, you might
have a crappy guitar cord)
-- that you need to get a new and better guitar cord if yours is cheap
and/or old
-- the setting of the gain and master volume knobs on the amp will
change tone as well as output and distortion. You can't get a clean
and bright sound if your initial gain control is much above half way.
Try this: but your gain at 2 or 3 and then crank the master. You
should get a nice clean, fender sound. Now try it the other way: put
the master volume to zero, bring the gain up to 10 or 12 (yes, this
one goes to 12 ;^), then bring up the master volume to an appropriate
(still comfortable to the ear) level. Big diff in distortion and
tone, even though the two different settings could be at the same
relative output.
-- if you live in a situation where you can't crank it, that's a
shame. The amp really shines at high volume. When the
family/roomie/what-have-you is gone in the mid-day, try getting the
volume high to see what I mean (for distortion, go for 12 on gain and
7 on master, for full and clean tones, go for 3-4 on gain and 8-10 on
the master). Go around the corner or turn the amp away from you if
it's too loud, but try it!!
After realizing those things, you might get good tone from the EQ.
Here's some tips:
-- don't be afraid to crank the treble (but don't leave it too high,
which is a place only you'll be able to determine before your ears
bleed)
-- don't be afraid to bring the mids WAY down, like to zero or
somewhere below 3-4. Try it this way for awhile, a long while, and
then slowly bring it in for fullness or body as needed, once you get
more comfortable with the other controls.
-- bring the bass in for as much body and low end as you need
[] I just cant seem to hit the right combination. If
[] anyone out there has some advice for me Id surely appreciate the help.
[] I am going for a kind of Jimmy Vaughan (I know...I know...Ive read the
[] past posts on what some people think of his tone, bit I like it
[] anyway) type of tone. A little driven but kind of fat.
I'm not sure about the Vaughan tone, but it's possible that you'll
never be satisfied with the Blues Jr. for this... I dunno. I get some
nice tones out of the blues jr, but it's not my main rig.
Chris
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[...]
[]
[] Oh yeah.... One other thing. About those tone control settings.
[] Doesn't matter where you put them. Nothing helps. Sell it and step
[] up to a Deluxe. Major improvement in sound.
"Change the axe -- get a strat"
"Change the amp -- get a Deluxe"
C'mon guys, the guy doesn't need to buy new gear. The Blues Jr. is a
great little and the tone controls don't suck -- you just don't know
how to use 'em. They work for me.
Have patience, try drastic settings, CHANGE THE ROOM (I forgot the
mention that in my other post in this thread), and don't forget that
the guitar, cable and amp are one complete circuit that reacts
together. For instance, the amp will have limp controls if you've got
the guitars volume control on 2.
Eh?
dennq...@windsor.igs.net
cooking....
>I need some help. I have a Blues Junior through which I am playing a
>dual HB (Dimarzio PAF/ PAF pro) guitar with a coil tap and phase
>control. I can get a pretty wide variety of tones from the guitar.
>Single coil and HB sounds as well. My problem is this: I am having
>trouble adjusting the EQ on the amp. I cannot hit the right
>combination of bass, mids and treble. All I can seem to dial in is a
>muddy tone. I set the master about half way as well as the volume. I
>know the amp is in fine working order. Its my tone selection that
>needs some fine tuning. What should the relationship of bass, mids
>and highs be? I have two volume controls on the guitar, one for
>bridge and neck. I just cant seem to hit the right combination. If
>anyone out there has some advice for me Id surely appreciate the help.
>I am going for a kind of Jimmy Vaughan (I know...I know...Ive read the
>past posts on what some people think of his tone, bit I like it
jnor...@my-dejanews.com
> I need some help. I have a Blues Junior through which I am playing a
> dual HB (Dimarzio PAF/ PAF pro) guitar with a coil tap and phase
> control. I can get a pretty wide variety of tones from the guitar.
> Single coil and HB sounds as well. My problem is this: I am having
> trouble adjusting the EQ on the amp. I cannot hit the right
> combination of bass, mids and treble. All I can seem to dial in is a
> muddy tone.
I would tinker with the pickup heighth. Move the pickups
away from the strings a bit, then go from there adjusting
the "chicken heads". I love my Blues Jr.
-Jay