OT from a palestinian writer
nospamwanted
Goffaq Yussef, a Palestinian writer, published this piece called "10
Reasons to Love Palestine!" You'll find it quite fascinating!!! He's a
brave man - probably has to live in hiding!
He writes, Golly gee, I am SOOOO proud to be a Palestinian Arab from
the West Bank. Let me tell you the reasons why I have such warm, fuzzy
feelings about my people and culture:
1. There is no such thing as Mothers Day. No worry about cards, gifts,
and expensive meals. There is no honor in being a woman in our
culture, so there is no reason to devote a day to her. We do, however,
get to enjoy watching our fathers beat our mothers senseless for the
slightest real or imagined infraction. Also, if Dad suspects that Mom
spoke to a strange man in the street, he gets to kill her to preserve
the family honor!
2. Weapons. Every child, from the time he can grasp an object, is
trained to feel comfortable with a rifle or pistol in his hand. And
every Palestinian has a weapon: a gun, a rocket launcher, a pound of
C-4. What good are hands if they aren't used to kill?
3. Hate. Boy, we love to hate. Hate is the very basis and foundation
of our culture. From the time a child is old enough to understand
language, we teach him to hate. Hate Jews, hate the West, hate his
fellow man, and most of all, hate himself. We have no love songs, we
do not preach love, the word love does not appear anywhere in our
society. Hate is the fuel that runs our motors.
4. Death. The moment a Palestinian Arab child is born, his parents
begin to plan his death. How will he die? Will he be struck by an
Israeli bullet while being used as a human shield by Palestinian
gunmen? Will he get shot while throwing rocks at Jewish soldiers? Will
he be packed with explosives and sent to blow himself up, killing
others? Or will he merely be one of the many Palestinians murdered by
other Palestinians in the normal course of daily life in the
death-culture of the Palestinian Arabs? Who knows? That's part of the
thrill.
5. Unemployment. Palestinians used to have jobs, working in Israel.
But then, our leaders had a brilliant idea: suicide bombings! For
their own protection, Israel had to close its borders, preventing
Palestinians from going to their jobs, so they could sit around
unemployed and blame the Jews for it. What great fun to be your own
worst enemy!
6. Martyrdom. Who in their right mind wants to be a martyr? Among
normal people, a martyr complex is considered immature and obnoxious,
if not downright crazy. With us, it's the central syndrome of our
society! Hey, look at me, I'm gonna kill myself and become admired!
And then, when we do kill ourselves, instead of being considered
pathetic, we DO get admired! It's a whole complete cycle of sickness!
American kids collect baseball cards; Palestinian kids collect martyr
cards (really! no joke!).
7. A feeling of entitlement. When Israel came into being, we declared
war. We lost. We fought again. We lost. We fought again. We lost.
Israel had the right to kill us all (we sure would kill all of them if
we got the chance). Instead, they allow us to live on land they
conquered. But we can't leave that alone. We have to claim entitlement
to live on land that we lost in 6 wars. Since when does the loser of a
war get to claim the land he fought over? They don't. But we do. Not
only that, but we happily kill our kids over it! Hey, what's more
important -- a chunk of dirt, or some worthless kid who isn't going to
amount to anything anyway?
8. Uselessness. The Jews have won more Nobel Prizes than all other
ethnic groups combined. Their contributions to science, art,
literature and the humanities is far out of proportion to their
population. What have Palestinians produced? Nothing! Not a thing. We
don't do anything productive. We're too busy rioting and killing and
chanting and screaming and calling for everyone's death. And we blame
the Jews for it, as though the Jews stop us from being productive.
9. Friends. The Palestinian people sure know how to pick 'em. Saadam
Hussein. The Taliban. Adolf Hitler. You name a psychopath, and we
embrace him. And look who our supporters are! The American Nazi Party.
The KKK. Just check their websites and see how they stand in
solidarity with us. When you support the Palestinian "cause," you're
in real good company. Bring your white sheet!
10. Freedom. The biggest laugh in the world is when people call us
"freedom fighters" or they say we're fighting for our freedom. Take a
look at all 22 Arab countries. Do you see any freedom there? Well,
that's what our country will be like if we ever get one. It will be a
dictatorship run by armed, masked thugs who will kill anyone who
dissents. Just like we are now. Freedom???? LO LO LO LOL The word
doesn't even exist in our language. Hey, just like George Orwell said:
"Freedom is slavery. Long live big brother!"
Remember: Israel is bad! It's existence keeps reminding us what a
bunch of losers we are.
Written by a PALESTINIAN who lives IN THE WEST BANK. Somebody in there
can think straight!
timepixdc
nospamwanted <Do...@Spammeasshole.org> wrote:
> from a palestinian writer
Bullshit xenophobia.
nospamwanted
wrote:
Wrong liberal jerk, it was really written by a palestinkian. Watch tv
and see the homocide mentality of these folk due to islam, I have been
there and seen it myself, even little kids dressing in fake bomb
outfits and pretending to blow up jew and others.
timepixdc
nospamwanted <Do...@Spammeasshole.org> wrote:
> >> from a palestinian writer
> >
> >Bullshit xenophobia.
>
> it was really written by a palestinkian
More bullshit xenophobia.
And poorly spelled.
No surprises there.
paul
"timepixdc" <time...@aol.comx> wrote in message
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and there is no surplus either! god bless those saintly freedom fighters.
did you watch the video of the sermon?
http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ClipMediaID=60227&ak=null
probably just a fake from another white middle classed xenophobe, right?
you are so full of crap that you just don't count anymore pixie! back under
your rock!
paul
az
Bob...@girl.com
from a Palestinian comedian
>
>Goffaq Yussef,
catchy name...
> a Palestinian writer, published this piece called "10
>Reasons to Love Palestine!" You'll find it quite fascinating!!! He's a
>brave man - probably has to live in hiding!
From his own audience!
>He writes, Golly gee,
OK so he's from Idaho...
> I am SOOOO proud to be a Palestinian Arab from
>the West Bank. Let me tell you the reasons why I have such warm, fuzzy
>feelings
OK OK so he's from L.A., give me a break already!
> about my people and culture:
>
>1. There is no such thing as Mothers Day. No worry about cards, gifts,
>and expensive meals. There is no honor in being a woman in our
>culture, so there is no reason to devote a day to her. We do, however,
>get to enjoy watching our fathers beat our mothers senseless for the
>slightest real or imagined infraction.
Your point??
>Also, if Dad suspects that Mom
>spoke to a strange man in the street, he gets to kill her to preserve
>the family honor!
Just like Alabama! Goddam!
>2. Weapons. Every child, from the time he can grasp an object, is
>trained to feel comfortable with a rifle or pistol in his hand.
Especially at Xmas! 6 guns are great gifts for boys and girls! And don't forget
the Bowie knife! Goddam!
>every Palestinian has a weapon: a gun, a rocket launcher, a pound of
>C-4. What good are hands if they aren't used to kill?
The Hollywood mantra!
>3. Hate. Boy, we love to hate. Hate is the very basis and foundation
>of our culture. From the time a child is old enough to understand
>language, we teach him to hate. Hate Jews, hate the West, hate his
>fellow man, and most of all, hate himself.
Ah, the seeds of all middle Eastern religions! Hate everyone not in your
church! Hala-fucking-luja!
> We have no love songs, we
>do not preach love, the word love does not appear anywhere in our
>society.
Missed Beatlemania I guess...
>Hate is the fuel that runs our motors.
And the brains of the Hollywood censors! You can stick anything you want in
that woman on screen, knifes, spears, bullets, but NO PENIS!! That's immoral!
Goddam!
>4. Death. The moment a Palestinian Arab child is born, his parents
>begin to plan his death. How will he die? Will he be struck by an
>Israeli bullet while being used as a human shield by Palestinian
>gunmen? Will he get shot while throwing rocks at Jewish soldiers? Will
>he be packed with explosives and sent to blow himself up, killing
>others? Or will he merely be one of the many Palestinians murdered by
>other Palestinians in the normal course of daily life in the
>death-culture of the Palestinian Arabs?
Or perhaps he will immigrate to America, and die in a drive by in Detroit! Or
maybe get shot wearing the wrong color shirt in South LA! Or perhaps find
himself out on the street after dark in Miami, or Philadelphia, or any of
hundreds of American death-cities!
> Who knows? That's part of the thrill.
>
>5. Unemployment. Palestinians used to have jobs, working in Israel.
>But then, our leaders had a brilliant idea: suicide bombings! For
>their own protection, Israel had to close its borders, preventing
>Palestinians from going to their jobs, so they could sit around
>unemployed and blame the Jews for it. What great fun to be your own
>worst enemy!
Of course, the other Arab Moslem countries could let them work there... if they
weren't such good publicity being used as Jewish cannon fodder to promote the
Islam cause!!
>6. Martyrdom. Who in their right mind wants to be a martyr?
Um, are you really asking that question? EVERY RELIGIOUS ASS THAT EVER WAS!!
> Among
>normal people, a martyr complex is considered immature and obnoxious,
>if not downright crazy. With us, it's the central syndrome of our
>society! Hey, look at me, I'm gonna kill myself and become admired!
>And then, when we do kill ourselves, instead of being considered
>pathetic, we DO get admired! It's a whole complete cycle of sickness!
>American kids collect baseball cards; Palestinian kids collect martyr
>cards (really! no joke!).
I'm waiting to get the Bin Laden card... I won the Saddam card in leansies...
>7. A feeling of entitlement. When Israel came into being, we declared
>war. We lost. We fought again. We lost. We fought again. We lost.
>Israel had the right to kill us all (we sure would kill all of them if
>we got the chance). Instead, they allow us to live on land they
>conquered.
They let you live on your own land? How NICE of them!!
>But we can't leave that alone. We have to claim entitlement
>to live on land that we lost in 6 wars. Since when does the loser of a
>war get to claim the land he fought over?
1945.
Here we really digress!! Note to asshole comedian:
Try reading the United Nations Charter of which Israel wants to join -
PARAQUOTE: " No country may permanently keep land or occupy land won in any war
or conflict, regardless of circumstance" .
> They don't. But we do. Not
>only that, but we happily kill our kids over it! Hey, what's more
>important -- a chunk of dirt, or some worthless kid who isn't going to
>amount to anything anyway?
>
>8. Uselessness. The Jews have won more Nobel Prizes than all other
>ethnic groups combined. Their contributions to science, art,
>literature and the humanities is far out of proportion to their
>population. What have Palestinians produced? Nothing! Not a thing. We
>don't do anything productive. We're too busy rioting and killing and
>chanting and screaming and calling for everyone's death. And we blame
>the Jews for it, as though the Jews stop us from being productive.
None of the Moslems are productive or inventive. Their god beliefs keep them out
of scientific research, since science disproves the Koran and all middle eastern
religions. Watch Bush do it to the US! WE ARE NEXT!! Hope you like hemlock!
The Earth is the center of the Universe!
>9. Friends. The Palestinian people sure know how to pick 'em. Saadam
>Hussein. The Taliban. Adolf Hitler. You name a psychopath, and we
>embrace him. And look who our supporters are! The American Nazi Party.
>The KKK. Just check their websites and see how they stand in
>solidarity with us. When you support the Palestinian "cause," you're
>in real good company. Bring your white sheet!
>
>10. Freedom. The biggest laugh in the world is when people call us
>"freedom fighters" or they say we're fighting for our freedom. Take a
>look at all 22 Arab countries. Do you see any freedom there? Well,
>that's what our country will be like if we ever get one. It will be a
>dictatorship run by armed, masked thugs who will kill anyone who
>dissents. Just like we are now. Freedom???? LO LO LO LOL The word
>doesn't even exist in our language. Hey, just like George Orwell said:
>"Freedom is slavery. Long live big brother!"
>
>Remember: Israel is bad! It's existence keeps reminding us what a
>bunch of losers we are.
>
>Written by a PALESTINIAN who lives IN THE WEST BANK.
Anybody can live anywhere and write anything, just like me!
It's too bad you never went to school though...
Stephen Cowell
"nospamwanted" <Do...@Spammeasshole.org> wrote in message news:i5jgc1h70u0vtqomq...@4ax.com...
> from a palestinian writer
>
>
> Goffaq Yussef, a Palestinian writer,
Credibility? What credibility? Dude, no matter
what came before, you're a joke now!
nospamwanted == goffaq, from now on...
I wonder how many times that name's been
quoted in churches here... the mind boggles!
Look at what you're advocating, Goffaq...
you want to kill all people that believe in
Islam? Is that what you're advocating?
__
Steve
.
Carl Rothman
you want to kill all people that believe in
Islam? Is that what you're advocating?"
I don't think he's said that at all. YOU are arguing by putting words in
his mouth. I think he's saying that the "Palestinian Cause" is an empty one
and formulated through a policy of hate and mis-education (read my last
paragraph before you start slamming away on this). I think it was Bobbys, in
this thread, who said something like (to paraphrase) that the Palestinians
COULD go to work in Arab countries (as opposed to in Israel which is the
only source of jobs for them) would the Arab nations not prefer to use them
as pawns in their anti-Israel/anti-West campaign instead. No one in this
thread advocated killing Palestinians, let alone the generalization of "all
people that believe in Islam".
You may choose to agree or disagree with nospamwanted's postion, but what
you've posted is quite a stretch from what he's said in his post. When
listening to others it's best not to project.
"Stephen Cowell" <sco...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Carl Rothman
the U.S. are well taken. The important difference, which I feel you are
missing, is that the Palestinian nation is a generally homogeneous one and
the "immoralities" parodied in the original post are government sanctioned,
culturally embedded, and taught in schools. We at least put up the pretense
of not sanctioning wife-beatings, use of weapons against other human beings,
and the teaching of hate in our school system. And too, we are a
heterogeneous society, with people of many cultures, whom we have been
desperately trying (as the larger society) to extend equality to, and extend
equal rights to, for two centuries. Agreed we have not been entirely
successful, but there is no evidence at all of a similar movement towards
moderation in the Palestinian (or larger Islamic) culture.
If you are a woman (I can't tell for sure from your username), try making
this same post from one of the 22 or so Islamic countries and see what
happens to you.
The comparisons don't hold up under closer scrutiny. For good or bad (and
I'm not saying there isn't plenty of bad), we are one of the few countries
in the world constantly questioning and scrutinizing itself, allowing
dissent, and struggling to make changes. Give us a break.
<Bob...@girl.com> wrote in message
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Carl Rothman
NICE of them!!"
I have a problem with this statement, agreeably accepted by many, as
mis-informed "history". When someone says it was the Palestinians "own
land", I have to ask them to demonstrate some proof of that to me, as it
doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
Please point me to evidence of, prior to 1967, a Palestinian history book,
Palestinian government, king/prime minister/president, legal documents,
deeds to land, culture, Palestinian-built road, building, library, monument,
invention, contribution to society of any kind, in the disputed territory or
anywhere else.
You can take this or leave it, but when I watched Mel Gibson's "Passion of
Christ" (which I believe took place 2000 years ago), I saw a territory
portrayed clearly as Jewish-dominated, with even the conquering Roman army
succumbing to Jewish pressures (according to the movie). Forgive me, but I
didn't see any signs of "Palestinians". Certainly, if they were there, and
it was THEIR land, they failed to involve themselves, attempt to control the
situation, or even exert any political influence. Apparently, they were so
uninfluential that Mel failed to represent them at all in his story.
We can't have it both ways, can we? I guess you can if you choose to start
your history in 1967 when the term "Palestinian" was coined.
BTW, Roman maps of the period mark the area as "Judea". No mention of
Palestinians.
Please don't make the mistake of confusing the current day Palestinians with
the Philistines of the Roman period. They are not related. But it is the
Philistines from which was eventually derived the name "Palestine".
So, who's land is it?
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Rick N. Backer
<sco...@sbcglobal.net> did courageously avow:
Sounds like he's a republican alright
Ken Wilson
Amer. Dlx. Tele, Gary Moore LP, LP DC Classic w/P90s,
Jeff Beck Strat, Morgan OM Acoustic,
Rick 360/12, Std. Strat (MIM), Mesa 100 Nomad,
Mesa F-30
"Goodnight Austin, Texas, wherever you are."
nospamwanted
I am against islamic terror Im against islamic murder for the record.
Im not Goffag Yussef, I only posted what he wrote, to clear away the
distorted view we get from the media.
Bob...@girl.com
wrote:
>Oh yes, btw, you also wrote this: "They let you live on your own land? How
>NICE of them!!"
>
>I have a problem with this statement, agreeably accepted by many, as
>mis-informed "history". When someone says it was the Palestinians "own
>land", I have to ask them to demonstrate some proof of that to me, as it
>doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
>
>Please point me to evidence of, prior to 1967, a Palestinian history book,
>Palestinian government, king/prime minister/president, legal documents,
>deeds to land, culture, Palestinian-built road, building, library, monument,
>invention, contribution to society of any kind, in the disputed territory or
>anywhere else.
>
>You can take this or leave it, but when I watched Mel Gibson's "Passion of
>Christ" (which I believe took place 2000 years ago), I saw a territory
Holy fuck!
Education by Hollywood movie!!!!
HOLY FUCK!!!
It was bound to happen, folks!!!
GO TO SCHOOL YOU FUCKING MORON!!!
holy fuck....
Bob...@girl.com
Want some advice?
Go faq yu sef !!
Man, the people here are SO STOOOPID!!!!!
TD Madden
nospamwanted
yes and your one of them, so what you think the palestinians always
lived in what is now israel? do you beleive a suicide bombing people
are sohow rightous and in the right?
Go faq yo sef
Carl Rothman
She takes all the facts I fed her, and discounts them all by using the F
word with the rationalization that my use of the Gibson movie as an example
of popular thinking is "education by a Hollywood movie". What did SHE want
me to do, quote from the bible as factual reference?
At least you'd think she'd take a look at my syntax, grammar, sentence
structure, knowledge of history of the mid-east crisis, etc. before
generalizing about MY education.
At first I thought I was talking to a semi-intelligent person. Now I know
she's just an opinionated and argumentative person who covers for her lack
of actual factual information with F words and exclamation points. She
should stop thinking with the emotional content of someone who gets their
knowledge from biased news reporting and one-sided photos of "atrocities"
and at least look into some of the questions I've raised about whose land it
is before speaking again. An intelligent person would say to themselves, "Is
there any basis to what he's saying? Maybe I should research it further"?
People without facts always resort to name-calling.
"TD Madden" <tdmadd...@spam-comcast.net> wrote in message
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Carl Rothman
about the situation in terms of facts and resorts to name-calling to cover
for her inadequacy. Check some of her other posts and you'll see. She's
nothing more than an agitator without a cause.
"nospamwanted" <Do...@Spammeasshole.org> wrote in message
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Bob...@girl.com
wrote:
>She apparently is a nitwit.
>
>She takes all the facts I fed her, and discounts them all by using the F
>word with the rationalization that my use of the Gibson movie as an example
>of popular thinking is "education by a Hollywood movie".
Facts?? FACTS??? Popular thinking is FACTS?????
POPULAR THINKING is URBAN MYTH!!
>What did SHE want
>me to do, quote from the bible as factual reference?
No facts in the bible , asshole... it's myth. Not fact. Unless you think the
world including man was made in 6 days! And there is no evolution. No
dinosaurs... no history before 65000 years ago, when god made the Earth...
>At least you'd think she'd take a look at my syntax, grammar, sentence
>structure, knowledge of history of the mid-east crisis, etc. before
>generalizing about MY education.
You don't know shit.
>At first I thought I was talking to a semi-intelligent person. Now I know
>she's just an opinionated and argumentative person who covers for her lack
>of actual factual information with F words and exclamation points. She
>should stop thinking with the emotional content of someone who gets their
>knowledge from biased news reporting and one-sided photos of "atrocities"
>and at least look into some of the questions I've raised about whose land it
>is before speaking again.
Ya ya ya like you know my education or what I know that YOU don't!!
You obviously think the land belongs to Jews... ANY JEWS! Even German Jews
displaced Russian Jews and any other Euro JEW!!
How many Palestinians are in refugee camps and WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY IN REFUGE
CAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????????????? Where did they come
from? Tourists?
> An intelligent person would say to themselves, "Is
>there any basis to what he's saying? Maybe I should research it further"?
>People without facts always resort to name-calling.
You need to research further!!
Can you say Ottoman? ya ya that's the chair you sit in!
nospamwanted
>How many Palestinians are in refugee camps and WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY IN REFUGE
>CAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????????????? Where did they come
>from? Tourists?
>
Actually this is a good question, why are alestinians in refuge camps?
Lets see the supposed expulsion happened during the 48 war, so thats
some 58 years they have been in the camps, you would think their Arab
brothers would have settled them long ago, wouldn't you? But NO, just
last year lebanon created a new law stating no palestinian could buy
lebanese land, why?, to keep them tidyly in the camps of course. They
are used by the arab world as a political tool, abused is a better
word for it.
Any other country in the world would have resettled them long ago! And
lets be fair and not forget some 600,000 jews were expelled from Arab
countrys at that time and all there possessions were seized. They have
all since been resettled, in israel and outside israel.
nospamwanted
<crot...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>nospam- don't waste your breath on her. My experience is she knows nothing
>about the situation in terms of facts and resorts to name-calling to cover
>for her inadequacy. Check some of her other posts and you'll see. She's
>nothing more than an agitator without a cause.
>
I think your right carl a troll is she!
Thanks