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Vox AC30 TBX Reissue

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Mark Mantle

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Mar 11, 2002, 9:56:56 PM3/11/02
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What your feelings on these?

Does anyone have one for sale, i really need one. Thanks alot!

Mark Mantle


Tavo

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Mar 11, 2002, 11:15:16 PM3/11/02
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IMO..
for the money vox is asking on a reissue, I suggest
spendin' the dough on a used Top Hat King Royale.
<used$1200-1500//$2900list> Granted some liberties are taken
on design, but the tone and reliability is wonderful if you like
driven AC30 chime and snarl.
I use a 96' tophat King Royale w/ my gretsch nashville and
its treating me quite well. Even the club royale I had
before this KR, was tasty for an AC15 clone type.
I kept my AC30 reissue for 2 weeks and was not too sad to
part with it.
peace,
Tavo

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Kent Pearson

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Mar 12, 2002, 12:22:04 AM3/12/02
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I had an AC-30 reissue back in the mid '80's. I would hope they're better
now then they were then. Dick Denny told me personally, regarding any AC-30
*not* manufactured during the Jennings era; "If you haven't got one of
those, you haven't got a real AC-30. You've got scrap". He oughtta know.

Kent Pearson

Ritualee

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Mar 12, 2002, 2:12:45 AM3/12/02
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The new reissues are very nice.

Lee

Mark Huber

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Mar 12, 2002, 9:25:55 AM3/12/02
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The new Korg reissues have exceptionally nice tone. The blue bulldog
speakers make a significant difference. If you like the sound of the old
AC30s from the '60s, there's absolutely no reason you wouldn't like the the
tone of the new reissues. The Vox reissues aren't like Fender reissues that
are only approximations of the original tone. Personally, I'd prefer one of
the new reissues over an orginal one as it it would probably be less prone
to problems. I agree the reissues aren't cheap, but neither are Top Hats
or original AC30s from the '60s. I'd consider a used Korg reissue if you
really need the Vox tone. I heard the Rose Morris reissues from the '80s
sucked because of circuitboard-mounted tubes which were prown to
overheating.


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Mr. Mac

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Mar 12, 2002, 11:50:30 AM3/12/02
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Just like EVERYTHING else that's mass produced (using P.C. board
construction) these days, having a complete [professional calibre]
resoldering job done on a newer AC-30 makes a HUGE difference in
reliability AND sound quality....but it STILL isn't like having a REAL
one (i.e. Jennings era)...Mac.

PlexiPunk

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Mar 12, 2002, 1:13:26 PM3/12/02
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>I heard the Rose Morris reissues from the '80s
>sucked because of circuitboard-mounted tubes which were prown to
>overheating.

The new reissues have the PCB mounted tubes also.

Terry H. Parker

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Mar 12, 2002, 2:46:31 PM3/12/02
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What years were the Jennings era?

Parker

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Kent Pearson

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Mar 12, 2002, 5:42:37 PM3/12/02
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<<What years were the Jennings era?>>

Late 50's to late '60's

~kp

Terry H. Parker

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Mar 12, 2002, 6:56:45 PM3/12/02
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Thanks ol' wise one!

Parker

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Ted B

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Mar 12, 2002, 10:33:55 PM3/12/02
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The JMI Vox amps have "A JMI Product" etched into the control panel, and are
all PTP amps. When serviced properly, they are reliable and sound fab,
especially when equipped with the original alnico G12 speakers.

The Korg/Marshall repros hold up well, and sound quite convincing for a
modern repro amp, especially when equipped with the optional alnico blue
speakers.


Jeremy Cusick

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Mar 12, 2002, 11:52:28 PM3/12/02
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Hey Ted B.,
You wouldn't happen to have a layout for an (JMI era) Ac-30 top boost model,
would you? I've been pushing the idea around of building one from parts, but
would like to find a good sketch of the component layout and lead dress. I have
built a 5F8-A tweed twin clone that turned out great, but I'm wondering if the
AC-30 circuit would be more difficult or more prone to motorboating and other
anomolies. I have probably 20 photos of the circuit for the AC-30, but they just
aren't detailed enough. I just thought I'd ask you... I figured if anyone had
such, it would be you. ;-) -Jeremy

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Ted B

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Mar 13, 2002, 12:29:59 AM3/13/02
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> Hey Ted B.,
> You wouldn't happen to have a layout for an (JMI era) Ac-30 top boost
model,
> would you?

I currently own a couple JMI TB AC30s, but I haven't made any layouts. If
you are going to build one however, I would forego building a TB amp in
favor of the very early AC30 with EF86 preamp (AC30/4). I own an original
AC30/4, and I can say with absolute sincerity that these are without
question the best AC30s ever, and as fate would have it, the fewest and
furthest between.

RoccaforteAmps

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Mar 13, 2002, 12:50:10 AM3/13/02
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You should try
a Jennings AC40,
rare birds,
but they walk all
over the AC30's.
Doug

Kent Pearson

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Mar 13, 2002, 12:50:49 AM3/13/02
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<<The JMI Vox amps have "A JMI Product" etched into the control panel, and
are
all PTP amps. >>

Dick Denny told me that the absolute BEST of the Jennings period Vox amps
had at least part of the construction farmed out to a company called
Westrex.

Dick Denny said (from memory of our conversation):
"There were three final inspectors who each went over every solder joint in
the AC30, each with their own coloured dye which they would dab over every
solder joint they inspected. It you remove the back panel on one of these
amps, it will look painted. That's when you'll know you've got a "real"
AC-30."

~kp

Ted B

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Mar 13, 2002, 8:23:22 AM3/13/02
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"Kent Pearson .com>" <bluesguit1@aol<remove> wrote in message
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>
> Dick Denny told me that the absolute BEST of the Jennings period Vox amps
> had at least part of the construction farmed out to a company called
> Westrex.

If I recall correctly, construction was farmed out to Triumph Electronics as
well. In any case, all of the gray and red panel amps were contract made.
Every once in awhile, you'll run across a black panel amp. These amps were
made in the Vox shop, which could screen only in black. Just an interesting
tidbit.

RoccaforteAmps

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Mar 13, 2002, 10:38:00 AM3/13/02
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<<gtarman wrote: but

>would like to find a good sketch of the component >layout and lead dress >>


There isnt any lead dress
in these amps,
and the layout isnt critical.
This is why there are
so many Vox knock offs
out there,
as long as you put the parts in the
right place it will run.
Doug

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