Jimmy Vaughn.....what a Joke.....
Wpamps
Kendrick brags of tweaking his amps....I only saw Matchless on that stage.
What a boring asshole. Was expecting at least an acceptable guitar performance.
I got Jimmie Vaughn.........
Anyone who responds negative to this post must never have seen Stevie Live.
JR. Wilson
JSimons920
t-birds live also..
because you personally have a dis-taste for his
playing.. that's your deal..
jimmie is a totally different player, as compared to stevie.. where stevie was
influenced by jimi hendrix, obviously.. jimmie dug the blues..
he is a very accomplished guitarist on his own..
before you start pointing fingers, you need to pull them out of your ass,
first...
j.
profrets
ArtM98
ArtM98
tone.
Marc Ferguson
Jimmy is the real thing. He taught Stevie. He is not SRV.
He does not have to be. He is Jimmy Vaughan. Now, let us hear you play, please.
And if you smoke Jimmy, I'll eat my shorts.
Mature adult guitar player? hmm..............
Scott Pritchard
Jeff Beck who has great too. If that style of playing is
not for you no problem. I think there is a lot of other music
you will not like out there as well, because what Jimmy
does is a style of blues that is popular, especially in
texas. Each to his/her own. I don't think I would compare
Jimmy to Stevie. It's like comparing BB King to Albert Collins.
Cheers,
Scott
Dirk77429
to), but i really thought he sounded terrible on the SRV tribute. maybe i'd
have to hear him in is own style and with his own band....
dirk
Norm Berube
Whoa, I thought I was the only guy with that CD. But, yeah, I'd agree. He
wasn't as good as he's been in other performances. I mean, everyone else there
smoked him. I've heard him a few other times, and though I personally like SRV
better, he's still one of the best I've heard.
...................................
Norm Berube
comp...@ma.ultranet.com
http://www.ultranet.com/~compound
...................................
ArtM98
ArtM98
He is right...........
ArtM98
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wpa...@aol.com (Wpamps) wrote:
> He sounded terrible. Riding Stevies coat sleeves..
Why must you compare the two.. just because they are brothers does not mean
they have the same talents and I don't think Jimmy aspires to fill his
brothers shoes now no more than de did before SRV's death. He is a completely
different musician with, as proved by your comments, a lot of weight on his
shoulders.
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art...@aol.com (ArtM98) wrote:
> There is an itelligent reply.....
>
Not only do you make stupid comments, but you answer yourself in like
fashion.. a sure sign of a mental deficiency ;)
Sisco.
you hear his distinct sound and style the bros definately influenced
alot of players stevie woke em up!!! jimmy be addin the tradition
wham there ya go bluz lesson 101 .....now go practice your jimmy licks ;-}
http://members.icanect.net/~sisco
"you say u can play the bluz"
standin there in a pair of $100.00
shoes!!!
"Buddy Guy"
Dirk77429
dirk
Kamchak Tuchuk
<Zomb...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>I love a story that I read in a guitar mag years ago. Seems SRV comes off stage
>after playing a blistering set somewhere in Texas (before he made it big), asks
>brother Jimmy how it sounded, Jimmy responds "you sounded like fucking Robin
>Trower!", which prompts a fist fight between the two. Hilarious! (and I like
>Robin Trower).
>
>A.T.
I enjoyed that! Thanks!
marc s.
Alan Thompson wrote:
> I love a story that I read in a guitar mag years ago. Seems SRV comes off stage
> after playing a blistering set somewhere in Texas (before he made it big), asks
> brother Jimmy how it sounded, Jimmy responds "you sounded like fucking Robin
> Trower!", which prompts a fist fight between the two. Hilarious! (and I like
> Robin Trower).
>
> A.T.
>
They BOTH sound like Jimi Hendrix. I mean, listen to...OUCH!
I didn't mean it Jimmy!
marc s.
Mrs Krose
wish i could sound like robin trower
Jim Kroger
mrsk...@aol.com (Mrs Krose) wrote:
> > Jimmy responds "you sounded like fucking Robin
>
> wish i could sound like robin trower
Saw Jimmy Vaughn at House of Blues a couple months ago. He was
fantastic. Didn't like his sound much but the music was great.
Jim
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: > Jimmy responds "you sounded like fucking Robin
: wish i could sound like robin trower
Really, I wouldn't take that as an insult. But then, I'm
no Stevie. Or Robin or Jimmie.
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Brian Heilman
plays with a "less is more" style. I think since Stevie died and he has been
pushed into the limelight he has tried to play more like Stevie. Probably a
mistake on his part, trying to be something he ain't.
I think his recording style with the T-Birds is great. Having seen them
several times, he has never been a great "live" performer. He is, and always
will be a side man in my humble opinion (and a great blues guitarist) in his
own style.
Gary Hawkins
Wpamps <wpa...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199807090351...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
Jim Kroger
<br...@flightplan.com> wrote:
> Jimmie is an "old school" blues player. If you listen to his recordings he
> plays with a "less is more" style. I think since Stevie died and he has been
> pushed into the limelight he has tried to play more like Stevie. Probably a
> mistake on his part, trying to be something he ain't.
>
> I think his recording style with the T-Birds is great. Having seen them
> several times, he has never been a great "live" performer. He is, and always
> will be a side man in my humble opinion (and a great blues guitarist) in his
> own style.
>
> Gary Hawkins
Interesting thoughts. I saw both quite a bit in Austin before, during, and
after Stevie got big. I think Jimmie is pretty much still the old school
like he always was. I like his early T-bird stuff alot, and earlier with
the Cobras.
He is a bit faster now, but it would be hard to say if he emulates Stevie.
I think it's hard for anybody to not be influenced by SRV. Except me, I
don't sound like him at all 'cuz I can't play. But you know what I mean.
And I disagree about Jimmie being only a side man. Saw him at House of
Blues recently and he fronted the band great. He always took a back seat
to Kim Wilson in Austin but just because Kim was the singer and is more of
a "up front" kind of guy, but I don't think Jimmie was ever unable to take
over. He will however always be in the shadow of his little brother a
little.
Jim
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Brain Mapping Divison
Department of Psychology
UCLA, Los Angeles, Ca. 90024
kro...@ucla.edu/310-208-4301
Jim Kroger
> In article <01bdbf05$d1f4b960$16e167ce@brian>,
> "Brian Heilman" <br...@flightplan.com> wrote:
> > Jimmie is an "old school" blues player. If you listen to his recordings he
> > plays with a "less is more" style. I think since Stevie died and he has been
> > pushed into the limelight he has tried to play more like Stevie. Probably a
> > mistake on his part, trying to be something he ain't.
> >
> > I think his recording style with the T-Birds is great. Having seen them
> > several times, he has never been a great "live" performer. He is, and always
> > will be a side man in my humble opinion (and a great blues guitarist) in his
> > own style.
>
> I would disagree with everything in this post. Jimmie has much playing on
> record where he is playing up a storm. Try coping the solo on Good Texan from
> the Family style album. Backwards rakes, wierd phrasing, and lotsa notes with
> a little room to breath. Its a killer solo that just plain smokes and is
> incredibly unique. Jimmie in no way whatsoever is trying to play like Stevie.
> He is more reseved now than ever. He uses a capo and plays with an Albert
> Collins right hand. Picking with his index and a little thumb. His tone is
> greasy and oozes. If you can't hear the magic and voodoo of Jimmie Vaughan
> than ya just plain aint into the sex and voodoo of real blues. Another point,
> try to figure out where Jimmie learned his phrasing and licks. I can hear
> stuff from about everybody, but no-one in particular, its spooky. Jimmie is
> his own thing and that puts him in a seat next to the very best ever in the
> Blues.
>
> PR
>
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Amen.
Gene Miller
>
> In article <01bdbf05$d1f4b960$16e167ce@brian>, "Brian Heilman"
> <br...@flightplan.com> wrote:
>
> > Jimmie is an "old school" blues player. If you listen to his recordings he
> > plays with a "less is more" style. I think since Stevie died and he has been
> > pushed into the limelight he has tried to play more like Stevie. Probably a
> > mistake on his part, trying to be something he ain't.
> >
> > I think his recording style with the T-Birds is great. Having seen them
> > several times, he has never been a great "live" performer. He is, and always
> > will be a side man in my humble opinion (and a great blues guitarist) in his
> > own style.
> >
>
> Interesting thoughts. I saw both quite a bit in Austin before, during, and
> after Stevie got big. I think Jimmie is pretty much still the old school
> like he always was. I like his early T-bird stuff alot, and earlier with
> the Cobras.
> He is a bit faster now, but it would be hard to say if he emulates Stevie.
> I think it's hard for anybody to not be influenced by SRV. Except me, I
> don't sound like him at all 'cuz I can't play. But you know what I mean.
> And I disagree about Jimmie being only a side man. Saw him at House of
> Blues recently and he fronted the band great. He always took a back seat
> to Kim Wilson in Austin but just because Kim was the singer and is more of
> a "up front" kind of guy, but I don't think Jimmie was ever unable to take
> over. He will however always be in the shadow of his little brother a
> little.
>
>
> --
> Jim Kroger, Ph.D.
> Brain Mapping Divison
> Department of Psychology
> UCLA, Los Angeles, Ca. 90024
> kro...@ucla.edu/310-208-4301
I just saw Jimmy here in Portland Friday night. I too saw him many times
when I lived in Austin and did some comparisons. First off, Junior Brown
opened the show. Fatal mistake. I don't believe there are many if any
gittar pickers that can hold a candle to Junior and he was feeling his
oats! In a word, awesome! JB had lots of standing ovations. Jimmie came
on after a fairly long delay and while I was a T-birds fan, this new
band just sucked from start to finish. Uninspired at the least,
tragically bad at the worst. Jimmy simply went through the motions.
Lowlight of the night was the song he dedicated to Stevie, Texas Flood,
and then he blew it. People started leaving in droves after this song.
At this point my only hope is a T-birds reunion. I believe Jimmie needs
another lead guitar to play off of. When he played on the Stevie Tribute
he was forced to play very well because of the talent there. On his own
he was just plain uninspired.
Gene M.
Rob Prosper
most of the entertainment but Jimmy was by far the highlight.
Johnny Winter played and I don't think a single toe tapped. Ray Charles was
well received....Jimmy burned the place down. Everyone standing
...screaming and dancing. This is a pretty reserved civil service town that
he lit a fire under.
His tone was the best of the week. Sure, he doesn't play very flashy but
like he says...I play what I hear. I always judge greatness in a guitar
player if he can play three notes and I immediately know who is playing.
Jimmy is one of them. Who cares if he can't sing well. Ever heard Neil
Young sing ???
Tellyman
I agree. I saw Jimmy and Junior last nite here in
Northern California,
and while I agree Junior Brown smoked the place, Jimmy
did damn good job. I was gonna leave after JB, but
decided to stick around, and was glad I did. His band
is polished, you can tell they are all pro's.
OnE more thing, this is just my opinion, but I think
Jimmy has one helluva singing voice. He can sure nail
and hold the right note!
Tellyman
Northern California
TheWoodies
he was a major influence on. I mean by GOD he these guys brothers. Shit they
fighting over what cartoons to watch long before what records to play. My heart
goes out to him for his loss. Also I feel Jimmie plays his ass off in own
right, I don't know how anybody could say he is joke. I also don't think you
would find many solid pro players who would rip him on his musicianship.
My two bits - Rickcus Dickcus
Jim Kroger
> I just saw Jimmy here in Portland Friday night. I too saw him many times
> when I lived in Austin and did some comparisons. First off, Junior Brown
> opened the show. Fatal mistake. I don't believe there are many if any
> gittar pickers that can hold a candle to Junior and he was feeling his
> oats! In a word, awesome! JB had lots of standing ovations. Jimmie came
> on after a fairly long delay and while I was a T-birds fan, this new
> band just sucked from start to finish. Uninspired at the least,
> tragically bad at the worst. Jimmy simply went through the motions.
> Lowlight of the night was the song he dedicated to Stevie, Texas Flood,
> and then he blew it. People started leaving in droves after this song.
> At this point my only hope is a T-birds reunion. I believe Jimmie needs
> another lead guitar to play off of. When he played on the Stevie Tribute
> he was forced to play very well because of the talent there. On his own
> he was just plain uninspired.
>
> Gene M.
Hm, wonder if following JB had anything to do with it (BTW, is he the one
that plays the wierd slide guitar and wears a cowboy hat? Whoever he is, he's
playing here soon, now I'll be sure to see it thanks). I really liked the
show at the House of Blues in LA. I've seen Johnny Winter try to follow SRV,
it was about the same as you describe above.
Gene Miller
Junior alone was worth the price of admission. Check out Juniors Babe
too. A grandma and STILL stunning. She'll be the one trying to keep up
on rhythm guitar. He must have married her when she was 10. Well, she IS
from Texas! Best women on EARTH! Yeee-HA!!!
Gene M.
Jim Kroger
>
> Junior alone was worth the price of admission. Check out Juniors Babe
> too. A grandma and STILL stunning. She'll be the one trying to keep up
> on rhythm guitar. He must have married her when she was 10. Well, she IS
> from Texas! Best women on EARTH! Yeee-HA!!!
>
> Gene M.
Ya make me miss my home. They sure are friendlier than in LA.
ElmerFreud
OK, so he's not Stevie... He is Stevie's blood brother.
Now get over it. Remember Stevie loved his brother.
Matt
Brian Rost
Not only that, but Stevie always claimed his brother was BETTER on
guitar than he was, and I agree.
Amazing how restraint in playing seems to go over people's heads.
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ears examined! Why because he doesn't rip up his Strat and smoke his amp!
Jimmie Vaughan has done and is still doing what he always has done- Lay down the
groove. They're enough white boys playing over distorted Stratocasters these days
( no disrespect to Stevie ) there was only one SRV and thats it! I saw Jimmie V the
other night with Jr. Brown they kicked ass! both different both beautiful both very
musical
if we all sounded the same or all trying to emulate the same guy, playing guitar
would suck, even worse listening to guitar would have no meaning! So don't listen
to every body trying to find SRV even if his last name is Vaughan!!!!
RT~
Gene Miller
So, tell us how you really feel! I saw the show last Friday night and
Junior smoked his ass. I'm from Austin relocated to Portland and have
seen both a lot. Jimmy at Antones and Junior at the Continental in
Austin. His new band sucked and people were walking OUT of this show.
People who WERE Jimmie fans who went to see him, not Junior! Just for
the record, Mr. Brown got 9 standing ovations!
What's worse, this show was the same night as the Mount Hood Jazz
Festivals Blues night and I could have seen John Lee Hooker whose set
also smoked poor Jimmie. I saw the tape. I'm a fundamental blues player
and don't particularly LIKE SRV, or Kenny Wayne Shithead, or any of the
other SRV Wannabes. I really WANTED to see Jimmie play a good set and
was disappointed as were the other fans who came to see him. Worse, he
played Texas Flood and hosed it! If you DON'T want to be compared to
Stevie you shouldn't play his signature songs! I truly believe Jimmie
can't cut it on his own anymore. The drive just isn't there. Just listen
to the T-Birds albums and compare it to this tour. He needs another lead
guitarist he can play off of. Take a look at the tribute to SRV Austin
City Limits show. Jimmie holds his own only when playing off of the
other guitarists there. THAT'S the kind of playing I expected Friday
night. I didn't get it.
Gene M.
ark
<gene_m...@ccm.co.intel.com> wrote:
>I'm a fundamental blues player and don't particularly LIKE SRV, or
>Kenny Wayne Shithead, or any of the other SRV Wannabes.
Wow, be careful -- you'll get thrown out of the church!
Al (another guy who loves the blues but doesn't own any SRV records)
Kamchak Tuchuk
<gene_m...@ccm.co.intel.com> wrote:
>So, tell us how you really feel! I saw the show last Friday night and
>Junior smoked his ass. I'm from Austin relocated to Portland and have
>seen both a lot. Jimmy at Antones and Junior at the Continental in
>Austin. His new band sucked and people were walking OUT of this show.
>People who WERE Jimmie fans who went to see him, not Junior! Just for
>the record, Mr. Brown got 9 standing ovations!
I think no matter how good of a "straight" player
you are, if you're playing a bill w/ somebody who
does cartwheels while playing pretty decently,
you're bound to be overlooked.
kevmin
killer player!!!
Kev
aaron....@gmail.com
He uses Stevie's fame what a scum bag republican
Hope he rots in hell
He is the worst guitarist ever
Lord Valve
You just responded to a SIXTEEN YEAR OLD post. Nobody
gives a shit.
Fuck you.
Xtrchessreal
> He sounded terrible. Riding Stevies coat sleeves....Ya gotta be kidding me.
> Kendrick brags of tweaking his amps....I only saw Matchless on that stage.
> What a boring asshole. Was expecting at least an acceptable guitar performance.
> I got Jimmie Vaughn.........
> Anyone who responds negative to this post must never have seen Stevie Live.
> JR. Wilson
You are trying to compare things that are not comparable. In my opinion any guitarist that makes a statement like, "I can play better than that dude." is making a serious egotistical overlook about themselves. Yeah SRV played some style that is only his own and the same can be said about Hendrix. While SRV may have studied Hendrix style, a Hendrix he never was. I don't know who Jimmie V was influenced by but he will never be that person either. I've studied Hendrix, SRV, Page, Van Halen, Satriani, Steve Vai, Yngvie,...I could never expect to take over their personalities that are clearly ringing out in the speakers. I've listened to G3 concerts. Near the end of the show they always have a jam-off set of songs - I can tell you which one is which as soon as I hear the solo switch from one to the other. Everyone plays with their own style and their personalities come out in those styles quite prominently.
As a new guitarist I can remember thinking I want to play just like that or this, as an old guitarist I can say to myself I know what they are doing but I can never fill their shoe-strings. Even if I could I would only be acting like them and their personality would never show - that is the definition of a poser.
So take that and go home you immature dick - how many albums have you sold?
X->out
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> Jimmie is a disgrace to Stevie
> He uses Stevie's fame what a scum bag republican
> Hope he rots in hell
> He is the worst guitarist ever
BTW, Romeo Rose wants his puter back.
Mr. Strat
accomplished player and never mentioned Stevie.
nm...@wt.net
ever likely know. And I've heard Stevie say the same thing vs himself,
which is why you would never hear Stevie utter such obtuse silliness.
Les Cargill
jh
I still love Jimmie's rhythm playing and the pure energy of SRV playing
leads
regards
Jochen
PS regardless of PUI or not ;-)
Red Boyle
> I still love Jimmie's rhythm playing and the pure energy of SRV playing
> leads
>
> regards
>
> Jochen
>
> PS regardless of PUI or not ;-)
I was playing a gig one night and this guy comes up with attitude and says "I'm better than you are." He has a guitar case with him so I offered to let him sit in with the band. I didn't care. I would still get the money. :)
A couple of minutes later he comes up and says, "One of the strings is broken on my guitar. Can I use yours?" I laughed and told him it might work out better some other time.
Red Boyle
Natalie Cole, Jerry Jeff Walker, and Asleep at the Wheel also played.
It was pretty awesome.
White Spirit
> These "This guy sucks" or "I'm better than so and so" make me laugh.
of the most pointless and tedious aspects of music.
Red Boyle
markwi...@gmail.com
himself (IMO) as a guitar player, starting sometime around
Stevie's death, as far as I can tell. If you check out JLV's
Fab T-birds stuff, the guy's really got. A lot of Texas brashness,
very confident playing. Never a fret-board melter like SRV
could be, but totally competant.
In later years, he actually radically changed both his playing
style and his sound. He changed from using a pick like most
people do to being a finger picker. However, even his picking
style is very unusual - he uses his index finger only. This
clearly introduces some limitations on what is possible to play.
His style changed from quite a smooth flowing sound (even though
it could be a bit brash, as is the Texas style) to a stoccato
type style. Quite old-fashioned in style, I would say, and very
very stripped back. A good example of his "new" sound is the
track Like a King, from the album Out There. I'm sure you'll be
able to find it on YouTube. It's not at all flash, it's completely
stripped bare. Not even any vibrato. All gone. Stripped back on
purpose (I say on purpose, because JLV had all those qualities
earlier on, he just chose (IMO) to leave them behind and go on a
new journey in search of total simplicity).
I would recommend to have a look at early JLV on YouTube. There's
a perfect example on YouTube of JLV, SRV, and Angela Strehli
playing in Hawaii (sp?). The track is called "You Were Wrong".
EXCELLENT playing from Jimmy. Totally
brilliant - a real lesson on doing nothing more than necessary.
I learned from it. Really great. So cool. IMO his solo was better
than Stevie's on that particular song. His style then was quite
similar to Denny Freeman's style, if you're familiar with him.
Totally cool player.
I'd say give JLV a chance. I do understand exactly where you're
coming from. His stipped down sound is very unique and very basic;
not something we're used to as guitar players - we're all supposed
to be flash and technically brilliant ;-) IMO JLV could/can do all
that stuff (up to a point - Jeff Beck he ain't) but after a while
I think his sound will grow on you. My reaction was the same as
yours, and I grew to like it. And he puts great tracks/songs together.
It's not *all* about the guitar :-)
M
markwi...@gmail.com
Out There album). Listen to all that space he leaves right
at the very beginning. SO cool! Then into a quite simple
but cool solo.
He's just... cool. But meh, one man's meat is another man's
poison!
M
Xtrchessreal
X->out
Red Boyle
josealva...@gmail.com
Willie Whittaker is a Putin Cock Sucker
>> Do you your homework. Tone and finesse, not flash and scales. SRV worshiped the ground JV walked on. We all know why, but you wouldn't understand.....
>
>
> If you wanna hear blues, go listen to the real shit instead of this melanin-deficient bullshit.
>
Both Jimmy and his drunk dead brother sucked as much today as they
did in 2015
Fat Willie
you can run a guitar amp on a lamp dimmer but can't tell a B-flat
from a beer can.
Lord Valve
Musician/Technician/Expert
(Fuck you!)
HaShem rules
Willie Whittaker is a Putin Cock Sucker
>>> Both Jimmy and his drunk dead brother sucked as much today as they
>>> did in 2015
>> The above posted by a truly clueless asswipe who not only thinks
>> you can run a guitar amp on a lamp dimmer but can't tell a B-flat
>> from a beer can.
>>
>> Lord Valve
>> Musician/Technician/Expert
>> (Fuck you!)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwVhpiQzlUM
>
Fat Willie
if you can prove it. Note that - unlike a whole pile of chicken-shit
losers on this NG - I have a name (Willie Whittaker) and a phone
number (720-480-2718) to go with that offer. I also have those
Eagles - come and get 'em, pussy. Easy way for you to get what
probably amounts to a year's pay for a short-hitter like you.
Lord Valve
Technician/Musician/Expert
(Fuck you.)
HaShem rules
> ok.. i've seen stevie live in houston... and i've seen jimmie with the fab
> t-birds live also..
> because you personally have a dis-taste for his
> playing.. that's your deal..
> jimmie is a totally different player, as compared to stevie.. where stevie was
> influenced by jimi hendrix, obviously.. jimmie dug the blues..
> he is a very accomplished guitarist on his own..
> before you start pointing fingers, you need to pull them out of your ass,
> first...
> j.
Hey I agree with you. I prefer Jimmie to his little brother. Only a true bore wouldn't like the Fabulous Thunderbird videos.
HaShem rules
> I recently drove 4500 miles to catch the Bluesfest in Ottawa. I enjoyed
> most of the entertainment but Jimmy was by far the highlight.
> Johnny Winter played and I don't think a single toe tapped. Ray Charles was
> well received....Jimmy burned the place down. Everyone standing
> ...screaming and dancing. This is a pretty reserved civil service town that
> he lit a fire under.
> His tone was the best of the week. Sure, he doesn't play very flashy but
> like he says...I play what I hear. I always judge greatness in a guitar
> player if he can play three notes and I immediately know who is playing.
> Jimmy is one of them. Who cares if he can't sing well. Ever heard Neil
> Young sing ???
"Well I hope Neil Young will remember Southern Man don't need him around any how." Ronnie Van Zant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GxWmSVv-cY