Victoria 45410 vs. Bassman '59 RI
Am-guy
I am about to order a Victoria 45410 Bassman
Clone because of the slightly degraded CAPs
and tube configuration.
I've played through a RI '59 Bassman before... but
never a "Genuine Vintage Fender Bassman." I was
impressed with Fender RI... but, at the moment, I
have the budget for the Victoria 45410.
Is the Victoria 45410 really as close to that classic
Tele/Vintage sound as it gets?
Thanks
Steve
I have an original 1959 Bassman and I can tell you that the RI's don't
come even close to the sound of that thing. Not in a million years.
I've never played the Victoria 45410, but, AFAIK, it seems to be a much
better amp altogether. If you can afford it, I suggest you go for it.
Just my 2cts.
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Steve
http://www.valveart-tech.com
DGDevin
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> Is the Victoria 45410 really as close to that classic
> Tele/Vintage sound as it gets?
Buddy Guy gets paid to plug Fender, but when nobody is looking he uses
Victoria amps (among others) as do a lot of other big names, and presumably
Victoria doesn't have the budget to get those endorsements just by writing
checks.
J.P.
IF you do it, please let us know what you think of it after playing it
for a few hours to break in the speaker if necessary...Thanks...J.P.
PMG
they sell you is something that more or less looks like the original
on the outside.... if you're not an expert.
http://www.victoriaamp.com/visitor/whatsinside
It'll be as good as you can get if you want a new Tweed. Won't be 50
years old though if that's what you're after.
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:26:36 -0700, Am-guy <Am-...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Mike Schway
The 59 Bassman r/i will give you, maybe 5 years trouble free service.
If you have a major tube meltdown, maybe less than that. The Vic will
hold up for 50 years with reasonable servicing.
As far as the "classic" vintage sound, that Bassman (or Vic 45410)
doesn't start breaking up until it's pretty danged loud. Not as loud as
a BF Twin, of course, but pretty loud, anyway. (Of course, once it does
get some overdrive going, it speaks with the Tone of God.)
If you want a slight edge to your tone with a little less clean
headroom, you may want to look at Vic's 35310, which is a spot-on Tweed
Bandmaster clone. About 5-8 W less than the Bassman, but because of the
phase inverter design, it'll sound more on the raw side. It's not due
to the three speaker confiig; it's the phase inverter.
Personally, I don't put much stock in that "pre-aged cap" nonsence, but
certainly Victoria's workmanship is far superior to anything coming from
Fender these days. Even if you don't hold onto it for your
grandchildren, it should keep its resale value far better than the
Fender r/i.
--Mike
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Am-guy
I'm getting a Victoria for sure... but I wanted to hear
a little advice from more experienced players.
I should be very specific about the sound I'm looking for.
I'd like a lot of thump, twang, and chime.
Essentially, a basic 1950s country/rockabilly twang with a little attitude.
I'm not looking for heavy grind or growl. Just punch
I'm thinking of a sound more like Duane Eddy
than Reverend Horton Heat or the Supersuckers.
I thought the Victoria 45410 Bassman clone would get me closest to this
sound. But, I'm totally inexperienced regarding amps and am open to all
advice.
I play an American Series Natural Nitro-Ash Telecaster with Fralin SP-43s
in the neck and bridge,Callaham 3-Way electronics, and a Callaham Bridge with
3 stainless saddles.
My current amp is an unmodified Fender Tweed Hot Rod Deluxe.
Thanks to everyone who has posted.
-William
Larry Lynn
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Mike Schway
Am-guy <Am-...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like a lot of thump, twang, and chime.
> Essentially, a basic 1950s country/rockabilly twang with a little attitude.
> I'm not looking for heavy grind or growl. Just punch
>
> I'm thinking of a sound more like Duane Eddy
> than Reverend Horton Heat or the Supersuckers.
The 35310 (T. Bandmaster) isn't really a huge grinder, but you will get
a *little* edge on your tone at an earlier point than with the Bassman.
Not entirely a bad thing when you're playing a tele.
Actually, for big Rawk overdrive, the Bassman has the "edge" here in
that it keeps a beefy sound when it's in full overdrive. When pushed
really hard, the Bandmaster sounds fizzier, to my ears at least.
--Mike
Z_2K
Dwayne Eddy didn't play a Telecaster. I think it was a Gretch, or Guild ,
jumbo hollow body.
Reverb was a big part of his 'sound'..and the amps you are considering do
not have reverb, so
you'll have to add this externally, and I don't think they have efects loops
to facilitate this.
Am-guy
> jumbo hollow body.
He played a Gretsch Nashville. I can't afford a 6120 right now.
I've only recently finished building the Tele and I'm sorting out
amp quality & sound right now.
I only meant, by mentioning D. Eddy, that I want a clean country/rockabilly
sound. I don't know... maybe I should have said, More like "Don Rich" with
little more attitude.
> Reverb was a big part of his 'sound'..and the amps you are considering do
> not have reverb, so
> you'll have to add this externally, and I don't think they have efects loops
> to facilitate this.
A Victoria Reverberato is in the near-future budget. And eventually some
sort of echoplex clone. I know the acoustic guitar well... I'm just figuring
out where I want to go with this electric guitar set up.
Does anyone have an opinion of the Victoria Victorilux?
Or any other amp?
Thanks,
William
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>
>
Steve
> I've only recently finished building the Tele and I'm sorting out
> amp quality & sound right now.
If you want nice Tele pups for your guitar, don't hesitate to contact me
at one of the addresses on my site.
Your money back guarantied if you don't like them.
--
Steve
http://www.valveart-tech.com