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Randall Cyclone best amp ever made.

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GuyverFlame

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Mar 20, 2001, 10:33:56 PM3/20/01
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The Randall Cyclone is the best amp ever made. The distortion is heavier and
better sounding then a tube amp. 300 watts, this baby is the best amp for
heavymetal. If you don't think It Is, then tell me your best reason for saying
its not. And I'll know by loser replys that you have never played one.

PMG

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Mar 20, 2001, 10:49:38 PM3/20/01
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Oh, that's an easy one. The reason it isn't is because your sentence
"The distortion is heavier and better sounding then a tube amp." That
sort of aces it right there Flame. You need a little more time under
your belt before you can identify an amp as being the best ever made.

Pete

--
Walk on gilded splinters --Mac Rebennack

Scott Colborn

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Mar 20, 2001, 10:53:04 PM3/20/01
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Hello,
Never played a Randall Cyclone. I prefer old Marshalls. Yep, I'm a
loser. If you are gigging out with your distortion-type Randall, during
sound-check have a friend play your guitar at your settings and volume and
go out into the room and stand at the rear of the hall, club or arena.
Signal the other members of the band to play hard, and your friend as well.
Listen to your amp/guitar sound with the heavy distortion, and if you hear
white-noise without definition, articulation and overall muddy quality, it
might be a clue. Too much of a good thing squashes your tone and sound.
What sounds like pure thunder in your basement or rec room sounds a little
different live in the mix. But then again, what do I know, I'm a old guy.
Hope you enjoy your musical gifts.
Walk in Beauty, Peace. Scott

Kent Pearson

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Mar 20, 2001, 11:47:43 PM3/20/01
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Pete, you must be a loser too, just like me and Scott (yeah, I know it's
"Scott and I").
Welcome to the loser's club! I just feel sooooo DEFICIENT with my Marshall
. . . oh dear! :-|
Any other losers out there? (nawwwww . . . . couldn't be, not HERE!)
~ Kent Pearson

RoccaforteAmps

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Mar 21, 2001, 12:31:49 AM3/21/01
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your so right! Now, go to alt.Randellamps

PMG

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Mar 21, 2001, 12:39:35 AM3/21/01
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"Kent Pearson

You bet, all I can get is girlie man distortion outta my Bassman, and
the shame of the whole thing is that now I find out that switching to a
Marshall won't solve anything for me, cause I STILL wouldn't have the
best amp ever made.

I attribute my being a loser to the loss of my youthful enthusiasm for
swallowing the shovel fulls of new stuff dumped in front of me every
year. Does the Randall come with fries?

josh

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Mar 21, 2001, 1:12:59 AM3/21/01
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hrrmmm, I better get my '65 champ modded with three...nah, make FOUR extra
12ax7s in the preamp so I can get heavy distortion like this awesome cyclone
thingy. the more preamp tubes the better, right?
-josh


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Kent Pearson

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Mar 21, 2001, 1:09:08 AM3/21/01
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On 21-Mar-2001, PMG <avo...@mediaone.net> wrote:

> You bet, all I can get is girlie man distortion outta my Bassman, and
> the shame of the whole thing is that now I find out that switching to a
> Marshall won't solve anything for me, cause I STILL wouldn't have the
> best amp ever made.

Nope. Hasn't help me, not one iota. I don't think your Bassman and my
Marshall together would be good enough. Why . . . even The Beatles with
their Voxes had to finally admit that . . that . . . well, you remember
that song they sang, "I'm a Loser"?? If they'd only just had a Randall amp
or two in the lineup . . .

<snip>

> Does the Randall come with fries?

<wiping the beer spray off my monitor once again>

Pete, I wonder if that things more like a Marshall than a Bassman . . I
mean, they don't call it a Randman . . . just a thought. (I'll have a
'nillar shake please!)

~ kp

PMG

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Mar 21, 2001, 1:28:53 AM3/21/01
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Too much ain't enough

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PMG

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Mar 21, 2001, 1:37:58 AM3/21/01
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Kent Pearson wrote:

>
> Pete, I wonder if that things more like a Marshall than a Bassman . . I
> mean, they don't call it a Randman . . . just a thought. (I'll have a
> 'nillar shake please!)
>
> ~ kp

Versatility is going to be a key thing to a company that makes the best
amp in the world. Next year they'll go after the Bassman owners when
they release the new Randall Assman.

Kent Pearson

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Mar 21, 2001, 1:59:51 AM3/21/01
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On 21-Mar-2001, PMG <avo...@mediaone.net> wrote:

> Versatility is going to be a key thing to a company that makes the best
> amp in the world. Next year they'll go after the Bassman owners when
> they release the new Randall Assman.

Oh_my_Lord, that's gonna spark off that there English company to produce the
Marshman, and God only knows what else. Then we're all gonna have to spend
MORE money! Thank God Peavey's layin' low, it'd be the Peaman - or the
Marvey. I don't know, Pete. Sometimes I just don't know. I think I'm
going to BED on that note. I never did get my 'nillar shake neether.

~ kp

Miles O'Neal

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Mar 21, 2001, 2:28:15 AM3/21/01
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Buzz, is that you?

The lack of logic is right.

The cry for attention is right.

Style seems right.

Hmmm...

drwow

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Mar 21, 2001, 8:15:38 AM3/21/01
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Hmmmm ....... interesting signal to noise ratio outta' AOL ..

uh-huh

dw

Darin Raffety

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Mar 21, 2001, 9:57:02 AM3/21/01
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Glad it works for you. Have you met Zippy, Buzz, and Bobbygreenbacks? I
think you guys should start a band. It seems that you would have great
chemistry... :-)

Darin

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Brian Shaw

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Mar 21, 2001, 9:54:46 AM3/21/01
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Darin Raffety wrote:

> Glad it works for you. Have you met Zippy, Buzz, and Bobbygreenbacks? I
> think you guys should start a band. It seems that you would have great
> chemistry... :-)
>
> Darin

"1, 2, 3, 4!!!" *KICK* "You fuckers, you kicked over the greatest amp ever
made!" "We didn't kick down a tweed Twin!"

Brian


GuyverFlame

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Mar 21, 2001, 10:55:12 AM3/21/01
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Its funny how you people can say the Cyclone sucks, but none of you have ever
even played one. Whats wrong, scared it will be better then your crappy amp.

drwow

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Mar 21, 2001, 11:03:59 AM3/21/01
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it's funny how some people misunderstand things, read the thread again, the consensus is .....

that YOU suck .

go figger ......

dw

GuyverFlame

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Mar 21, 2001, 1:05:02 PM3/21/01
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>
>Glad it works for you. Have you met Zippy, Buzz, and Bobbygreenbacks? I
>think you guys should start a band. It seems that you would have great
>chemistry... :-)

No, see those guys are losers. I'm just breaking it down to you guys so you
won't waste your money on crap like marshall and fender. 300 watts, clean and
distortion channel, nine band EQ. The four twelve cabinet has vintage 30's, a
grill clothe, and a wicker grill protecting it. And for you guys that don't
know, Scott Ian and Paul Crook play them. See I was at a club kicking it with
my friends watching a band play. After the show I asked him what amp he was
playing, when he showed me the Cyclone. I plugged in, and knew it was the best.
I then sold my Mesaboogie and got what is now the tenth wonder of the world. Go
play one, and then tell me what you think. I think you might be scared you'll
like it.

BlueM0ZARK

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Mar 21, 2001, 1:25:24 PM3/21/01
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wait.....Randall? Isn't that what your man "Dimebag Darrell" uses?
oh yea, without question...it has to be the "ultimate" amp.
this guy is obviously too young to have gotten the brown acid at woodstock, so
what's his excuse?

PMG

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Mar 21, 2001, 1:47:52 PM3/21/01
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If I were you, I'd change my alias to cellop...@aol.com

PMG

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Mar 21, 2001, 1:52:21 PM3/21/01
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Maybe he got brown acid at one of the Woodstock Reissues. There has to
be an explanation.

Daniel Abrigg

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Mar 21, 2001, 1:26:42 PM3/21/01
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Soldano Soldano Soldano Soldano!

PMG

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Mar 21, 2001, 2:05:04 PM3/21/01
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Saltpeanuts Saltpeanuts Saltpeanuts!

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Brian Shaw

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Mar 21, 2001, 3:11:34 PM3/21/01
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GuyverFlame wrote:

> No, see those guys are losers. I'm just breaking it down to you guys so you
> won't waste your money on crap like marshall and fender. 300 watts, clean and
> distortion channel, nine band EQ.

It's gotta be 300 watts, cuz with any less it'd be crushed by a 50 watt Plexi.

Brian


Kent Pearson

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Mar 21, 2001, 7:30:24 AM3/21/01
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On 21-Mar-2001, guyve...@aol.com (GuyverFlame) wrote:

> No, see those guys are losers. I'm just breaking it down to you guys so
> you
> won't waste your money on crap like marshall and fender.

Right, like poor ol' Jeff Beck who played in town last night. I didn't go,
but my friend who did reported that the entire stage was filled with
Marshall amps! Wouldn't surprise me none if it was those piece o' crap JCM
2000s. What a loser, can you imagine? What I can't figure out though is
how the music supposedly sounded AMAZINGLY good. Prolly cuz my friend's a
GIRL, and heck, what do GIRLS know? If they'd only had a Randall or two in
the line-up <sigh>

~ kp

Kent Pearson

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Mar 21, 2001, 7:46:21 AM3/21/01
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On 21-Mar-2001, PMG <avo...@mediaone.net> wrote:

> Maybe he got brown acid at one of the Woodstock Reissues. There has to
> be an explanation.

If that's true, it would have to have been reissued brown acid . . . or
purple barrel . . .purple microdot, whatever . . . but definitely reissued.
I hear the colors aren't as vivid in that reissue stuff, and trails are
virtually a thing of the past. Your cheeseburger will still breath when you
look at it though.

~ kp

GuyverFlame

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Mar 21, 2001, 3:42:14 PM3/21/01
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I think you guys are misreading the post, not me. Its cool if you kids want to
insult me, Real musicians don't act like that. Which tells me your all kids.
And its true Dimebag does play Randall amps. And its true that he's better then
all you guys put together. Thats why he is touring, and you guys are all
playing on the computer. Maybe one day you guys will understand something.

RoccaforteAmps

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Mar 21, 2001, 3:55:54 PM3/21/01
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Walter Mitty strikes again!

BlueM0ZARK

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Mar 21, 2001, 5:26:52 PM3/21/01
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<<Its cool if you kids want to
insult me, Real musicians don't act like that. Which tells me your all kids>>
After you already SAID:
<<Whats wrong, scared it will be better then your crappy amp>>
(note the excellent language skills)
Ok, say no more, now I understand perfectly......

Brian Shaw

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Mar 21, 2001, 6:21:55 PM3/21/01
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GuyverFlame wrote:

> I think you guys are misreading the post, not me. Its cool if you kids want to
> insult me, Real musicians don't act like that.

Hmm....I seem to remember Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis getting in lots of
shouting matches. I guess they aren't real musicians. After all, all Berry did
was invent rock and roll.

Brian

WFLUKE2

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Mar 21, 2001, 6:47:17 PM3/21/01
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I curse you with the rath of Zippy. This group is just a bunch of Who's got a
bigger dick. Who can piss farther.
Can't anyone just enjoy something without all the oneupmanshit
Bill.>Subject: Re: Randall Cyclone best amp ever made.


booga booga

PMG

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Mar 21, 2001, 7:10:17 PM3/21/01
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no

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Kent Pearson

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Mar 21, 2001, 11:29:43 AM3/21/01
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On 21-Mar-2001, guyve...@aol.com (GuyverFlame) wrote:

> Its cool if you kids want to
> insult me,

Kids? I'm 50 years old. What do you think of THAT, Kid?

> Real musicians don't act like that.

Nooooo . . . fine upstanding pictures of perfection, all the REAL musicians
I ever met. Me, I'm not perfect, so I fake it a lot.

> Which tells me your all kids.

Yes, of course. You must be right.

> And its true Dimebag does play Randall amps. And its true that he's better
> then all you guys put together.

Oh, for certain. Better than ALL of us . . . put together. And taken
apart, too.

> That's why he is touring, and you guys are all playing on the computer.

Ummm.... what about those of us who've retired, or semi-retired??
And sayyyyyyyyyyy . . . . . . aren't YOU playing on the computer, sonny
boy??????
How come YOU'RE not out settin' the world on fire with that Randall amp??

> Maybe one day you guys will understand something.

I sure hope so. You don't know how hard it's been, living 50 years without
understanding anything! I don't even understand how I've managed.

~ kp

GuyverFlame

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Mar 21, 2001, 7:31:11 PM3/21/01
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Guys, all I'm saying is go play the Cyclone and then tell me if you have a
problem with it, and what you don't like. How can you say it sucks if you
havn't played it. I think that tube snobs are scared to play solidstate amps,
because they are scared they will like them. Don't be scared, just open your
mind.

PMG

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Mar 21, 2001, 7:43:24 PM3/21/01
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Far out man. Open your mind. Cool colors man, wish I could get a
poster of this. Let your freak flag fly. Don't trust anyone over 30
man. Wanna nother hit? Hey, don't bogart that thing.

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Steve Barnes

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Mar 21, 2001, 7:41:31 PM3/21/01
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Didn't I read on this very newsgroup that Dimebag got in trouble with
Randall for using a Marshall
chassis in a Randall head? Or maybe I was on the brown acid I can't
remember.
Steve

CompUser

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Mar 21, 2001, 7:47:27 PM3/21/01
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"PMG" wrote

| Maybe he got brown acid at one of the Woodstock Reissues.
There has to
| be an explanation.

That's gotta be it...he asked somebody in the concession area for
some,
but the guy thought he said "brown asswipe", and directed him
into the
third Port-o-let from the end...where he had just deposited a
load of
used rice & beans.


PMG

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Mar 21, 2001, 8:04:31 PM3/21/01
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It's hard to complain about the price, but you get what you pay for.

Pete

Brian Shaw

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Mar 21, 2001, 8:27:12 PM3/21/01
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GuyverFlame wrote:

How can you say Fender's suck if you've never played a Tweed Twin?

Brian

Brian Shaw

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Mar 21, 2001, 8:25:16 PM3/21/01
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Brian Shaw wrote:

> It's gotta be 300 watts, cuz with any less it'd be crushed by a 50 watt Plexi.

Either that or the 300 watts is to pop your eardrums so you don't have to listen
to it any more.

Brian

GuyverFlame

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Mar 21, 2001, 10:13:57 PM3/21/01
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>
>Kids? I'm 50 years old. What do you think of THAT, Kid?

50 and you sound like your 5. I'm sorry your life is so miserable

GuyverFlame

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Mar 21, 2001, 10:12:17 PM3/21/01
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>
>From: PMG avo...@mediaone.net
>Date: 3/21/01 4:43 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <3AB94B7F...@mediaone.net>
>
>Far out man. Open your mind. Cool colors man, wish I could get a
>poster of this. Let your freak flag fly. Don't trust anyone over 30
>man. Wanna nother hit? Hey, don't bogart that thing.
>
Your comments are very sad.


GuyverFlame

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Mar 21, 2001, 10:17:38 PM3/21/01
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>
>Didn't I read on this very newsgroup that Dimebag got in trouble with
>Randall for using a Marshall
>chassis in a Randall head? Or maybe I was on the brown acid I can't
>remember.

Thats not true at all. If It was, why did Randall keep him as a sponsor.

BlueM0ZARK

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Mar 21, 2001, 10:18:01 PM3/21/01
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<<I can't remember>>

Dimebag can't remember either...

Daniel

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Mar 21, 2001, 10:28:58 PM3/21/01
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>Thats not true at all. If It was, why did Randall keep him as a sponsor.
>

Who the hell else is going to do it?


Daniel

Kent Pearson

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Mar 21, 2001, 2:50:56 PM3/21/01
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On 21-Mar-2001, guyve...@aol.com (GuyverFlame) wrote:

> 50 and you sound like your 5.

That's right, Sonny, I was in Baghdad when you wuz still in Dad's bag!
Ain't it a beautiful thing! Eat your heart out kid, you should HOPE to be
so young when you reach my age - AND still rockin'! I wonder if you'll
still be playing, or if you'll be one of the countless casualties who falls
by the wayside before they reach 30??

~ kp

GuyverFlame

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Mar 21, 2001, 11:01:24 PM3/21/01
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>Who the hell else is going to do it?

Scott Ian and Paul cook. They play the Cyclone remember.

GuyverFlame

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Mar 21, 2001, 10:59:47 PM3/21/01
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>
>How can you say Fender's suck if you've never played a Tweed Twin?

I have played them all.

BlueM0ZARK

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Mar 21, 2001, 11:06:19 PM3/21/01
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<<Let your freak flag fly>>
"Almost cut my hair.....happened just the other day....."
I hope you're happy. now I have to listen to old vietnam songs in my head.

Odin

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Mar 21, 2001, 11:23:01 PM3/21/01
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Steve Barnes <s-ba...@raytheon.com> wrote in message

> Didn't I read on this very newsgroup that Dimebag got in trouble with
> Randall for using a Marshall
> chassis in a Randall head? Or maybe I was on the brown acid I can't
> remember.
> Steve

I doubt that. I don't like Randall amps (or SS amps for that matter) and
I've never liked Darrell's tone, but he does use Randall amps. He's been
playing Randall SS amps since waaaay before he was "somebody", and I've
never seen him plug into a Marshall. Also, his tone is about as
anti-Marshall as it could get, so I don't know who would think he's using a
Marshall. Darrell started playing Randall because he won a Randall 1/2
stack at a "battle of the shredders" type contest in Dallas back in the
mid-80's. Darrell was known as the best around Dallas/Ft. Worth at the
time, and he played a Randall ever since he won that one. I've played
through the "original" Randall that he used to play at local gigs and I
sounded like shit through it (not that I sound incredible anyway) but it was
definitely a SS Randall. He also used a rack mount EQ os some sort back
then and a wireless. And he never stepped on a pedal to switch between
clean and distortion - the band sound guy/guitar tech (Grady) would switch
it from the board even back when Pantera was a cover band.


PMG

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Mar 21, 2001, 11:40:58 PM3/21/01
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"Kent Pearson

All the guitar players I grew up with & associated with when I was Mr.
Flame's age have all stopped playing by now, and hell Kent you're 5
years older than me, so the odds aren't really with him still playing at
your age, in my opinion.

Probably the only reason I lived this long is that I was convinced that
I'd die before I was 25, so probably an early sense of mortality is what
got me this far. I got too much shit I never finished, so I'll have to
stick around. I'd hate to know what the best amp ever made was, there
isn't much to stick around for after that.

PMG

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Mar 21, 2001, 11:49:25 PM3/21/01
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"it'z gettin kinda long, coulda... said it was in my way, but I
didn't..., and I don't know why..."

I don't know if I have the song on record anywhere, but it's sort of
etched in my mind.

Miles O'Neal

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Mar 21, 2001, 11:46:17 PM3/21/01
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GuyverFlame wrote:
>
> Its funny how you people can say the Cyclone sucks, but none of you have ever
> even played one. Whats wrong, scared it will be better then your crappy amp.

It's funny how you can't even read. NOBODY
has responded at thios point in the thread
to whether that amp is good, bad, or ugly.

Go back to school.

PMG

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Mar 21, 2001, 11:58:04 PM3/21/01
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Well, I WAS thinking in my head that Randall makes the ugliest fuckin
amps I ever saw, but it's not something I'd come right out and say in a
newsgroup.

Kent Pearson

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Mar 22, 2001, 12:41:09 AM3/22/01
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On 21-Mar-2001, PMG <avo...@mediaone.net> wrote:

> All the guitar players I grew up with & associated with when I was Mr.
> Flame's age have all stopped playing by now,

I hear THAT!! Boy, they were REALLY into it, huh?? I can just hear their
whiney wives now, "Barney, are you gonna play that thing AGAAAAAAIN??????"
What a buncha woosies! They SHOULD give it up!

> and hell Kent you're 5
> years older than me, so the odds aren't really with him still playing at
> your age, in my opinion.

No, you're right . . . or even YOUR age!


> Probably the only reason I lived this long is that I was convinced that
> I'd die before I was 25, so probably an early sense of mortality is what
> got me this far.

Me, it was 40. I was convinced I wouldn't live past that, all the way up
until I WAS 40! Then I moved it up a bit. It's way up there now!

> I got too much shit I never finished, so I'll have to
> stick around.

Ditto THAT, plus I've still got too many "guyverflame" weenuses to aggrivate
in the meantime ;-)

> I'd hate to know what the best amp ever made was, there
> isn't much to stick around for after that.

The best amp ever made . . . isn't that something like "the best guitar
player" thing? Oh, no . . . wait . . . I almost forgot. The TSL-100 is the
best amp ever made! Damn, I almost forgot!

~ kp

Magic Twanger

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Mar 21, 2001, 11:44:03 PM3/21/01
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No fries Pete,
It comes wrapped in a crappy bazooka Joe comic and some advertisement
stating "Are you tired of getting sound (ok sand) kicked in your face" and
don't forget the sea monkeys......

"PMG" <avo...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Kent Pearson
> >
> > On 20-Mar-2001, PMG <avo...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> >
> > > GuyverFlame wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Randall Cyclone is the best amp ever made. The distortion is
heavier
> > > > and
> > > > better sounding then a tube amp. 300 watts, this baby is the best
amp
> > > > for
> > > > heavymetal. If you don't think It Is, then tell me your best reason
for
> > > > saying
> > > > its not. And I'll know by loser replys that you have never played
one.
> >
> > >
> > > Oh, that's an easy one. The reason it isn't is because your sentence
> > > "The distortion is heavier and better sounding then a tube amp." That
> > > sort of aces it right there Flame. You need a little more time under
> > > your belt before you can identify an amp as being the best ever made.
> >
> > Pete, you must be a loser too, just like me and Scott (yeah, I know it's
> > "Scott and I").
> > Welcome to the loser's club! I just feel sooooo DEFICIENT with my
Marshall
> > . . . oh dear! :-|
> > Any other losers out there? (nawwwww . . . . couldn't be, not HERE!)
> > ~ Kent Pearson
>
> You bet, all I can get is girlie man distortion outta my Bassman, and
> the shame of the whole thing is that now I find out that switching to a
> Marshall won't solve anything for me, cause I STILL wouldn't have the
> best amp ever made.
>
> I attribute my being a loser to the loss of my youthful enthusiasm for
> swallowing the shovel fulls of new stuff dumped in front of me every
> year. Does the Randall come with fries?

CompUser

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Mar 22, 2001, 12:32:28 AM3/22/01
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"GuyverFlame" wrote ...

| >Far out man. Open your mind. Cool colors man, wish I could
get a
| >poster of this. Let your freak flag fly. Don't trust anyone
over 30
| >man. Wanna nother hit? Hey, don't bogart that thing.
| >
| Your comments are very sad.

Go on, Mr. Business Man...you can never be like me!!!!!!!


CompUser

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Mar 22, 2001, 12:34:56 AM3/22/01
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"BlueM0ZARK" wrote ...

Look on the bright side...at least you're not hearing the flies
buzzing round your
head, and smelling shit burning...

Steve


CompUser

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Mar 22, 2001, 12:43:40 AM3/22/01
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"GuyverFlame" <wrote

Hafta be cause they are hard up for ANYONE....who in the F*%K
would
sponsor a guy nick-named "Dime-Bag", for anything (except maybe
Easy Wider). Geeeeeeeeeeeeeez---what a lousy choice---they HAVE
to be desparate. Think about it---16 year olds like Guyver want
Mom
to get him his next amp---a Randall!! <ooooh!> Convincing
point??
"But Mom, DIME-BAG plays a Randall!!" Oh, that would _surely_
convince me.

"Dime bag"...<shaking head>...that was the BEST dope-oriented
nickname this guy could come up with?? Or that was all he could
afford---oh, could this be the connection??

Lessee...desperate sponsor....broke doper...hmmmm...


Steve


PMG

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Mar 22, 2001, 1:25:46 AM3/22/01
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"Kent Pearson


>
> On 21-Mar-2001, PMG <avo...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
> > All the guitar players I grew up with & associated with when I was Mr.
> > Flame's age have all stopped playing by now,
>
> I hear THAT!! Boy, they were REALLY into it, huh?? I can just hear their
> whiney wives now, "Barney, are you gonna play that thing AGAAAAAAIN??????"
> What a buncha woosies! They SHOULD give it up!

Yeah, that's great, well, they were better band businessmen, but then
they gotta support the familly, so they gotta wake up to go to work, so
the bands are gone, so they no longer play.

>
> > and hell Kent you're 5
> > years older than me, so the odds aren't really with him still playing at
> > your age, in my opinion.
>
> No, you're right . . . or even YOUR age!
>
> > Probably the only reason I lived this long is that I was convinced that
> > I'd die before I was 25, so probably an early sense of mortality is what
> > got me this far.
>
> Me, it was 40. I was convinced I wouldn't live past that, all the way up
> until I WAS 40! Then I moved it up a bit. It's way up there now!

I think I was about 27 years old when I realized that I wasn't going to
live past 25, but by then I was too late!

>
> > I got too much shit I never finished, so I'll have to
> > stick around.
>
> Ditto THAT, plus I've still got too many "guyverflame" weenuses to aggrivate
> in the meantime ;-)
>
> > I'd hate to know what the best amp ever made was, there
> > isn't much to stick around for after that.
>
> The best amp ever made . . . isn't that something like "the best guitar
> player" thing? Oh, no . . . wait . . . I almost forgot. The TSL-100 is the
> best amp ever made! Damn, I almost forgot!
>
> ~ kp

Kent Pearson, RIP. He should have never known.

PMG

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Mar 22, 2001, 1:28:15 AM3/22/01
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May you never hear surf music again (~~~flanging~~~~)

Brian Shaw

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CompUser wrote:

> "Dime bag"...<shaking head>...that was the BEST dope-oriented
> nickname this guy could come up with?? Or that was all he could
> afford---oh, could this be the connection??

Best stage nickname that is also a pun: Dinah Cancer.

Brian

Brian Shaw

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Mar 22, 2001, 1:48:09 AM3/22/01
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GuyverFlame wrote:

> >
> >How can you say Fender's suck if you've never played a Tweed Twin?
>
> I have played them all.

Even a Dual Showman with an outboard Fender Reverb unit and a pair of
1x15 bottoms loaded with JBLs?

Brian

drwow

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Mar 22, 2001, 2:06:07 AM3/22/01
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Brian Shaw wrote:

Arthur Ittus

>
>
> Brian

Spike

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Mar 22, 2001, 2:44:41 AM3/22/01
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Geez,

What a dip.

I have the best amp ever made, it is my Boogie. I don't leave home
without it. Well rather, I leave it at home, cause I almost get
ruptured when ever I pick up the damn thing.

But TONE Oh what tone, from jazz to blues, to rock to
swing to disco, the versatility of it just numbs my ears...
and that is even in class A mode with EL34s, this baby really
cranks when in simul class mode and the 6L6s kick in.

Need is say more......


Boogies RULE

RoccaforteAmps

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Mar 22, 2001, 3:16:02 AM3/22/01
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<< That's right, Sonny, I was in Baghdad when you wuz still in Dad's bag!
Ain't it a beautiful thing! Eat your heart out kid, you should HOPE to be
so young when you reach my age - AND still rockin'! I wonder if you'll
still be playing, or if you'll be one of the countless casualties who falls
by the wayside before they reach 30??
>>


Don't you mean: " I was in Baghdad when you wuz still in Darrells dime bag"?
Great post Kent, get 'em!

GuyverFlame

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Mar 22, 2001, 11:48:35 AM3/22/01
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I feel a lot of hate on this board. I'm sorry you guys are old and miserable. I
think the bible would help out a lot. I own a Mesaboogie, a Marshall, and a
Fender too. I'm just saying you can't knock the Cyclone untill you try It. With
that I will let you guys get back to your war stories or whatever it is you
talk about all day. I just can't share your misery. I enjoy life and think you
guys should do the same thing. God bless you all.

Tonefactor

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Mar 22, 2001, 12:24:59 PM3/22/01
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>Guys, all I'm saying is go play the Cyclone and then tell me if you have a
>problem with it, and what you don't like.

If it's the model Dime Bag Darrel plays, I don't have to try it to know it
sucks. He's got one of the worst tones I've ever heard from a well known band.
His producers should have known better.

BlueM0ZARK

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Mar 22, 2001, 12:30:14 PM3/22/01
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WAIT....He comes in here calling everyone "losers", now HE's the AGA spiritual
guru??? He has played and owns every amp ever made in the last 60 yrs,
survived dropping the brown acid at woodstock, has toured relentlessly with
every major band in existence, gave beginning guitar lessons to Hendrix, BB
King, Eric Clapton, Steve Vai, Eric Johnson, and SRV...what hasn't he done?
I'm sure he invented the internet, too, didn't He? no, wait.....I think Al
Gore did that.

Joe Breher

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Mar 22, 2001, 1:05:55 PM3/22/01
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"Brian Shaw" <b-s...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:3AB9A0CE...@mindspring.com...

>
> Best stage nickname that is also a pun: Dinah Cancer.

Wasn't she with Elsie Borden & the Non-Dairy Screamers?


PMG

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Mar 22, 2001, 2:14:41 PM3/22/01
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Hmmmm, he feels a lot of hate for us, yet he feels that a Bible would
help us. Well, that's very odd, since most of us don't hate him, but
only find him rather ammusing. Oh, and God bless your shit eatin' grin
GuyverFlame.

Pete

PMG

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Mar 22, 2001, 2:19:11 PM3/22/01
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That's right, he called us all losers, but what he really meant to say
was God bless you. It's an understandable slip of the tounge, I do that
kind of thing all the time.

RoccaforteAmps

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Mar 22, 2001, 2:22:50 PM3/22/01
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Go Back and read your Bible, you will find a part that says its a sin to use
the Lords saintification to sin. Judge others the way you want to be judged. I
owned a Randall two channel SS head once, was the biggest piece of shit I ever
plugged into. Who gives a fuck about "dime bag darrell", you won't find him in
the R&R hall of fame, or on the radio either. You must be "zippy", the guy who
escapes boring reality with daydreams of personal triumph.

Kent Pearson

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Mar 22, 2001, 7:20:20 AM3/22/01
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Bless your cotton socks, son.

~ kp

Odin

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Mar 22, 2001, 5:24:11 PM3/22/01
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"RoccaforteAmps" <roccafo...@aol.com> wrote in message

> << I feel a lot of hate on this board. I'm sorry you guys are old and
> miserable. I
> think the bible would help out a lot. I own a Mesaboogie, a Marshall, and
a
> Fender too. I'm just saying you can't knock the Cyclone untill you try It.
With
> that I will let you guys get back to your war stories or whatever it is
you
> talk about all day. I just can't share your misery. I enjoy life and think
you
> guys should do the same thing. God bless you all. >>
>
>
> Go Back and read your Bible, you will find a part that says its a sin to
use
> the Lords saintification to sin.

I think it says something about stoning people with bad tone, too. I'm not
positive, but I thought I remembered that from Sunday school.


> Judge others the way you want to be judged. I
> owned a Randall two channel SS head once, was the biggest piece of shit I
ever
> plugged into. Who gives a fuck about "dime bag darrell", you won't find
him in
> the R&R hall of fame, or on the radio either.

There are lots of great players that won't make the hall of fame and never
get radio play, so that's not necessarily an indicator of good tone or
talent.

> You must be "zippy", the guy who
> escapes boring reality with daydreams of personal triumph.

Somebody should kick over his Randall Cyclone.


BlueM0ZARK

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Mar 22, 2001, 7:06:28 PM3/22/01
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"Yea, though you have walked through the valley of solid state, you will fear
evil tone no longer, for brothers, you will see the light and spread the word
of hot hands, warm tubes, and smokin' speakers... surely honest to goodness
slide tone and merciful blues riffs shall follow us"...
Amen

RoccaforteAmps

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Mar 22, 2001, 9:50:54 PM3/22/01
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Odin wrote:<< There are lots of great players that won't make the hall of fame

and never
get radio play, so that's not necessarily an indicator of good tone or
talent.
>>
I agree, but we are talking about Zippy, and his Randall Cyclone


PMG

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Mar 22, 2001, 11:05:23 PM3/22/01
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Odin wrote:
>
> "RoccaforteAmps" <roccafo...@aol.com> wrote in message
>

[.......]


> > Judge others the way you want to be judged. I
> > owned a Randall two channel SS head once, was the biggest piece of shit I
> ever
> > plugged into. Who gives a fuck about "dime bag darrell", you won't find
> him in
> > the R&R hall of fame, or on the radio either.
>
> There are lots of great players that won't make the hall of fame and never
> get radio play, so that's not necessarily an indicator of good tone or
> talent.

I hate to come to Dimebag's defense since I don't know who he is at all,
and don't have the interest in listening to the new hordes of noise
maker kids, but it would be more appropriate if the R&R Hall of Fame was
renamed the Hall of Tame, since it's really only a bunch of commercial
success stories when you look at it. And now they've put most of the
commercial success stories in there allready, so they're putting a bunch
of them in there a second time only the second time they just give it a
different twist.

So, anyhow, from the recent Hall of Tame I dug up on a website:

performers
Aerosmith -Ok, I'll go along with that one
Solomon Burke -sorry, don't know this person
The Flamingos -sorry, don't know this person
Michael Jackson -what the fuck, how do they figure he belongs??
Queen -I agree
Paul Simon -they've GOT to be kidding
Steely Dan -Rock & Roll??? Aren't they Jazz Pop music? I like
some of their stuff, but...
Ritchie Valens -good selection

side-men
James Burton -James Burton!! Yes!!! Great choice!
Johnnie Johnson -no arguement, but Hall of Fame?

>
> > You must be "zippy", the guy who
> > escapes boring reality with daydreams of personal triumph.
>
> Somebody should kick over his Randall Cyclone.

Well, seeing as Zippy didn't REALLY have the guts to kick over a
friend's amp, I don't know, but the idea does paint a pretty picture
doesn't it.

MBarnett

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Mar 22, 2001, 11:22:37 PM3/22/01
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GuyverFlame <guyve...@aol.com> wrote:

> Guys, all I'm saying is go play the Cyclone and then tell me if you have a

> problem with it, and what you don't like. How can you say it sucks if you
> havn't played it. I think that tube snobs are scared to play solidstate
amps,
> because they are scared they will like them. Don't be scared, just open
your
> mind.

Although I didn't get my first guitar until 1963 (yeah, I'm another one
of those "kids" you spoke of), I've had occasion to own a quite few amps
since then. My first guitar amp (after playing through a tube Hi-Fi and a
Knight tube P.A.) was a solid state Silvertone. It was loud and sounded good
to my inexperienced ears. I've also owned and gigged with a Polytone Mini
Brute, Roland JC-120, Pignose (30/60 ??? dunno ... it *was* solid state
though), a hybrid Music Man (RD-112 ??), and a Carvin. There have been
several times I've played in bands with other guitarists who used solid
state amps (Kustom, Acoustic, Peavey, Marshall, Fender, et al). Overall,
NONE of the transistor amps I've owned, played through, or listened to
regularly could hold a candle to the WORST tube amp I've owned, played
through, or listened to regularly. To my ears, solid state amps lack warmth,
richness, and character. If that makes me a tube snob, so be it. I'm not
"scared" of solid state amps; they just don't have the tone I want. Until I
hear rave reviews about a solid state amp from guitarists I truly respect, I
have no need or desire to try out another one. My tube amps give me the tone
I want.

Your rant about the Cyclone and your subsequent name-calling and posturing
did nothing for your credibility. You might love the tone you get from it,
but you can't force other people to like the same things you do. Jumping
into this newsgroup the way you did just made you look rather juvenile.

Monte Barnett

RoccaforteAmps

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Mar 23, 2001, 2:14:53 AM3/23/01
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<< it would be more appropriate if the R&R Hall of Fame was
renamed the Hall of Tame, since it's really only a bunch of commercial
success stories when you look at it. And now they've put most of the
commercial success stories in there allready, so they're putting a bunch
of them in there a second time only the second time they just give it a
different twist. >>


I agree, the new music is too repetitive, and the record companies only care
about $$$$. It's clear that the "hall of shame"(as it's starting to be) is
under control by these industry leader's who don't allways take "talent", and
originality into consideration. It's a shame, I have met
many great musician's that will never make it due to this approach, one's that
are gifted with what most our generation would like to listen to, or go out and
buy. I can handle about 5minutes of radio, then my "Vintage" stuff go's in.
What will happen when were gone? Doug

PMG

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Mar 23, 2001, 2:48:05 AM3/23/01
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Well, I stopped buying CDs of anything new a while ago (Ok, that's a
lie, because I bought 2 CDs by Junior Brown) because I finally realized
that it made more sense to buy CD versions of the best albums I had on
vinyl, that way I know I'll get something I like.

And I don't know what the radio is like in the rest of the country, but
around the Chicago area it's horrible, you know, the stations that used
to play innovative music in the '70s, are either gone, or turned into
stations that just play drool, and the station that used to play great
ROCK music play classic rock, which means that they don't play any of
the GOOD rock music from those eras, so essentially it ends up being
elevator music with a backbeat. And these stations are being bought up
by a corporation that goes around buying stations all across the
country, and converting them to the same lousy fuckin classic rock
station, so I know you have at least one owned by the same corporation,
no matter where you are.

Buzz R.

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Mar 23, 2001, 6:15:10 AM3/23/01
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Now this is a topic worth staying home from work to discuss. Just my 2
c.

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when enlarged:
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Kent Pearson

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On 22-Mar-2001, roccafo...@aol.com (RoccaforteAmps) wrote:

> Don't you mean: " I was in Baghdad when you wuz still in Darrells dime
> bag"?
> Great post Kent, get 'em!

I think it was Darrell's NICKLE bag, Doug.

~ kp

CompUser

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Mar 22, 2001, 11:42:39 PM3/22/01
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"GuyverFlame" wrote in message ...

| I feel a lot of hate on this board. I'm sorry you guys are old
and miserable. I
| think the bible would help out a lot

Thanks...and I'll say a prayer that you
and DimeBag can get sober!

Steve


CompUser

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Mar 22, 2001, 11:47:00 PM3/22/01
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"BlueM0ZARK" wrote

...


| WAIT....He comes in here calling everyone "losers", now HE's
the AGA spiritual
| guru??? He has played and owns every amp ever made in the last
60 yrs,
| survived dropping the brown acid at woodstock,

| I'm sure he invented the internet, too, didn't He? no,
wait.....I think Al
| Gore did that.

Well, actually it was late one nite, at Flaming Gaytron's
pad...Dime
Bag's eyes looked like slits on a tomato...AlGore was just about
passed out...as Flame took a deep hit off the bong and passed it
to DimeBag, he blew out a stream of smoke and said..."it would
be really cool, man...to like, turn on a computer and see all
kinds
of trippy stuff.." AlGore's eyes momentarily refocussed, and he
propped himself up on an elbow and said, "Well, I really like
that idea!" ....and the rest is history!


CompUser

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Mar 22, 2001, 11:51:19 PM3/22/01
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"PMG" wrote ...

| > Somebody should kick over his Randall Cyclone.
|
| Well, seeing as Zippy didn't REALLY have the guts to kick over
a
| friend's amp, I don't know, but the idea does paint a pretty
picture
| doesn't it.

But perhaps Sippy's fantasies are becoming bolder
and bolder, each day....


BlueM0ZARK

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Mar 23, 2001, 10:25:59 AM3/23/01
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praise the Lord and pass the telefunken EL84's....amen brother! tubes rule!

PMG

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Mar 23, 2001, 2:04:16 PM3/23/01
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That would be what I'm afraid of, if he's eventually able to kick over
amps without even being there. That could cause problems.

GAX70

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Mar 23, 2001, 10:21:56 PM3/23/01
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On 22 Mar 2001 04:01:24 GMT, guyve...@aol.com (GuyverFlame) wrote:

>>Who the hell else is going to do it?
>
>Scott Ian and Paul cook. They play the Cyclone remember.

who?

GAX70

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Mar 23, 2001, 10:21:55 PM3/23/01
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:46:21 GMT, "Kent Pearson" <BluesGuit1@aol.<no
spam>com> wrote:

>On 21-Mar-2001, PMG <avo...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
>> Maybe he got brown acid at one of the Woodstock Reissues. There has >>to be an explanation.

>If that's true, it would have to have been reissued brown acid . . . or
>purple barrel . . .purple microdot, whatever . . . but definitely reissued.
>I hear the colors aren't as vivid in that reissue stuff, and trails are
>virtually a thing of the past. Your cheeseburger will still breath when you
>look at it though.
>~ kp

god, i LOVED blue barrel and purple microdot. You can be sure he's not
getting anything that GOOD, or orange sunshine EITHER. Just like
everything else they get even the amps are watered down.

GuyverFlame

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Mar 23, 2001, 10:21:17 PM3/23/01
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>
>Now this is a topic worth staying home from work to discuss. Just my 2
>c.

Your right. You see, many men were hurt trying to control the Cyclone's awsome
power. You see, Scott Ian is trained in amponeze, and was able to tame one of
the amps. Thats the one he has on tour with him now. I heard a fan lost his arm
in NY, when he reached up to touch it.

GuyverFlame

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Mar 23, 2001, 10:25:07 PM3/23/01
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>
>From: tonef...@aol.com (Tonefactor)
>Date: 3/22/01 9:24 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <20010322122459...@ng-fc1.aol.com>
>If it's the model Dime Bag Darrel plays, I don't have to try it to know it
>sucks. He's got one of the worst tones I've ever heard from a well known
>band.

Dimebag plays the Warhead. Scott Ian plays the awesome Cyclone.

GAX70

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Mar 23, 2001, 10:27:13 PM3/23/01
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On 22 Mar 2001 17:30:14 GMT, bluem...@aol.com (BlueM0ZARK) wrote:

>WAIT....He comes in here calling everyone "losers", now HE's the AGA >spiritual guru??? He has played and owns every amp ever made in the last >60 yrs, survived dropping the brown acid at woodstock, has toured >relentlessly with every major band in existence, gave beginning guitar >lessons to Hendrix, BB King, Eric Clapton, Steve Vai, Eric Johnson, and >SRV...what hasn't he done? I'm sure he invented the internet, too, didn't >He? no, wait.....I think Al Gore did that.

Hmmmm, maybe he IS all gore? anyone know if al said he liked guitar?
or played in a band?

Miles O'Neal

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Mar 23, 2001, 10:28:03 PM3/23/01
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CompUser wrote:

> Well, actually it was late one nite, at Flaming Gaytron's
> pad...Dime
> Bag's eyes looked like slits on a tomato...AlGore was just about
> passed out...as Flame took a deep hit off the bong and passed it
> to DimeBag, he blew out a stream of smoke and said..."it would
> be really cool, man...to like, turn on a computer and see all
> kinds
> of trippy stuff.." AlGore's eyes momentarily refocussed, and he
> propped himself up on an elbow and said, "Well, I really like
> that idea!" ....and the rest is history!

Post of the week.

Miles O'Neal

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Mar 23, 2001, 10:27:45 PM3/23/01
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PMG wrote:

> That would be what I'm afraid of, if he's eventually able to kick over
> amps without even being there. That could cause problems.

This is starting to sound like a Stephen King novel...

PMG

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Mar 23, 2001, 10:48:14 PM3/23/01
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Actually, I got the idea straight out of the "Guyverflame" episode of
the X-files. The one where Mulder kept saying "The truth is a loser,
Skully". Sort of a headbanger episode, it rocked.

CompUser

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Mar 23, 2001, 11:15:04 PM3/23/01
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"Miles O'Neal" wrote ...

...and make pots go scratchy, just by frowning and crossing
his eyes!


Kent Pearson

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Mar 23, 2001, 3:00:52 PM3/23/01
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On 23-Mar-2001, guyve...@aol.com (GuyverFlame) wrote:

> You see, Scott Ian is trained in amponeze,

Folks, please overlook the spelling and grammer. What he meant to say is
"Scott Ian is a trained Chimpanzee"

~ kp

Kent Pearson

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Mar 23, 2001, 3:05:53 PM3/23/01
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On 23-Mar-2001, guyve...@aol.com (GuyverFlame) wrote:

> Dimebag plays the Warhead.

Nickel Bag eats Mega Warhead Sours

> Scott Ian plays the awesome Cyclone.

Sounds like a vacuum cleaner. "That's right, folks . . . The Awsome Cyclone.
It REALLY sucks!!"

~ kp

Tonefactor

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Mar 23, 2001, 10:46:02 PM3/23/01
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>>Scott Ian plays the awesome Cyclone

Isn't that the guy from Anthrax?? Those guys use JCM-800's.


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