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N. Schultheiss

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Jul 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/30/98
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Does anyone know what Oglebay Norton (or Columbia) vessle was used in
the Blues Brothers movie?

It may have just been in it by chance, it's shown for a few seconds in
the back ground.

Was this staged?

Neil


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BILLYVIC

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Jul 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/31/98
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>
>Does anyone know what Oglebay Norton (or Columbia) vessle was used in
>the Blues Brothers movie?
>
>It may have just been in it by chance, it's shown for a few seconds in
>the back ground.
>
>Was this staged?
>
> Neil
>
>

I have watched that snip of movie many times. I believe it is the Crispin
Oglebay. I am sure that the scene was deliberately picked for its local
"flavor", but not staged. Afterall, Chicago is a major port.
-Randy

Sharon Bouchonville

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Jul 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/31/98
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Hi Neil,

I think it is the Joseph Frantz. I've watched that part several times too,
but it's hard to tell which one it is.

Ogler

William Lafferty

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Jul 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/31/98
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N. Schultheiss <ncsc...@oakland.eduNOSPAM> wrote in article
<35C12C7E...@oakland.eduNOSPAM>...


> Does anyone know what Oglebay Norton (or Columbia) vessle was used in
> the Blues Brothers movie?
>
> It may have just been in it by chance, it's shown for a few seconds in
> the back ground.
>
> Was this staged?
>
> Neil

My recollection is that it was the *Joseph H. Frantz.* During the
time the film was being shot in Chicago (1979), she operated on the coal
shuttle between Rail-to-Water Transfer (across from the old AmShip yard)
to the Oak Creek generating station south of Milwaukee. She inherited
that run from the *J. R. Sensibar,* and was a regular on the Calumet River.

Shots of her nosing north towards 95th Street were intercut
with Jake and Elmore's furious catapult over the 95th Street Bridge:
Hardly
"staged."


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William J Murin

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Jul 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/31/98
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Have not seen the movie in some time. But depending on when the scene appears in the movie
it may have been shot in Milwaukee.

Towards the end where the Henry Gibson neo-Nazi car is chasing Akryod/Belushi on a bridge
and Gibson drives off the end--that scene was filmed in Milwaukee on the then uncompleted
Dan
Hoan bridge. If you look carefully at the scene you can see the Allen-Bradley clock in one
shot and the Summerfest grounds in another.

Some of we southeast Wisconsin types like to think of the scene as the longest jump in the
world--you drive off of a bridge in Milwaukee and land in Chicago--90 miles away.

Bill Murin


BILLYVIC (bill...@aol.com) wrote:
> >
> >Does anyone know what Oglebay Norton (or Columbia) vessle was used in
> >the Blues Brothers movie?
> >
> >It may have just been in it by chance, it's shown for a few seconds in
> >the back ground.
> >
> >Was this staged?
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >

> I have watched that snip of movie many times. I believe it is the Crispin


> Oglebay. I am sure that the scene was deliberately picked for its local
> "flavor", but not staged. Afterall, Chicago is a major port.
> -Randy

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BILLYVIC

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Aug 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/1/98
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>Have not seen the movie in some time.

Explains the fact that the poster has not carefully read the original post

BILLYVIC

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Aug 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/1/98
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>I think it is the Joseph Frantz. I've watched that part several times too,
>but it's hard to tell which one it is.
>

If my memory serves me correctly (due to the "influences" of the late 70s, it
IS questionable) The Joseph Frantz had 4 "High" hatches forward. These were
located forward of the unloading boom apparatus (hopper house). I don't recall
the ship in question having these hatches.

Sharon Bouchonville

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Aug 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/2/98
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I'm not really sure what "high" hatches are, I just thought that the
freighter in question looked like the Frantz because of the way the boom
looks.

I'm pretty familiar with how the Frantz looks, since I spent several
weekends on the boat during the winter of 1988, when my husband was
shipkeeper. Also, I still spend a lot of time around the ON boats during
winter lay up in Toledo, so I get a glimpse of the Frantz fairly often.


Sharon Bouchonville

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Aug 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/2/98
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What year was the movie filmed? The Crispin Oglebay was laid up for
several years, then sailed only one season, in 1990 or 1991, I think it
was, before she was sold to ULS.

Now, I'm going to have to rent the movie again, to look at that clip again
and see when the movie was made. :)


Mark James

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Aug 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/2/98
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"Sharon Bouchonville" <sso...@ix.netcom.com> writes:


I never realized it but there is one scene filmed in downtown Milwaukee
even though everything takes place in Chicago. The scene where the nazi's
are chasing the blues brothers downtown and start driving on an over-pass
which is not completed. They drive pass the Jackson street exit sign, get
a quick glimpse of Johnson Controls, and also the big white building
(First Wisconsin). I am really confused is how can the nazi's fall off
I-794 in Milwaukee and land in downtown Chicago? Is there some sort of
Bermuda Triangle thing going on here? ;)
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Aug 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/2/98
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In article <01bdbcb5$578e7be0$823bd8ce@uspppsharon>,
"Sharon Bouchonville" <sso...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Hi Neil,

>
> I think it is the Joseph Frantz. I've watched that part several times too,
> but it's hard to tell which one it is.
>
> Ogler
>

I own the video and I just looked to see if I can pin-point what vessel it is.
I have to say that I don't believe it to be the Frantz - mostly because the
Frantz has a (pardon the expression) goofy looking boom that looks to be about
twenty-thirty feet or so off the pilot house area. The vessel in the movie
appears to have the boom as normal front mounted self-unloaders do, right up
against the pilot house. This is my opinion - I can't tell what vessel it is,
the name is not clear.

James
Harrow, Ontario, Canada

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DenGarS

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Aug 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/5/98
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Is it the W.W. Hollaway??

Mike Gibson

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Aug 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/5/98
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DenGarS wrote:
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> Is it the W.W. Hollaway??

The freighter that appears is W.W. HOLLOWAY
Its not the JOSEPH H. FRANTZ or CRISPIN OGLEBAY
Check the unloader frame and the boom itself.

Gary Clark

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Aug 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/7/98
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I thought that boat might be the J. Burton Ayers, now the Cuyahoga.

Gary

Mike Gibson

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Aug 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/8/98
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Nope, sorry Gary, it's not the J.BURTON AYERS either.
Again, look at the construction of the unloader frame behind the
wheelhouse and the shape of the unloader boom itself. Then, take a look
at the shape of the forward gunwale on the W.W. HOLLOWAY compared to any
of the other Columbia self-unloaders of that era. It is none other than
the W.W. HOLLOWAY.

Regards, Mike

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