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Measles

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Jun 19, 2002, 11:08:03 AM6/19/02
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Hey Gang:
Just thought I would post this survey to see what users most want to see
introduced in Photoshop 8.
My No.1 request is: Type on a Path
Anyone else?
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Grant
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J C

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Jun 19, 2002, 12:57:14 PM6/19/02
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:30:19 -0400, "M.C.L."
<Kodia...@nospamyahoo.ca> wrote:

>Instead of "what idiot came up with THAT", I should have phrased
>"what person came up with that idiotic feature".
>
>Won't happen again.
>
>Martin.
>

Nah. You were probably right the first time. Frankly I'm tired of PS
versions that always need an X.01 patch within about 6 weeks of
release.


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stupid_idiot

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Jun 19, 2002, 1:01:29 PM6/19/02
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<snip>

> >Instead of "what idiot came up with THAT", I should have phrased

> >"what person came up with that idiotic feature".</snip>

It wasn't me.

S_I

Bryce

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Jun 19, 2002, 1:19:26 PM6/19/02
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A plugin whereas I could just click on it and I wouldn't have to hear about
what people would want in version 9.


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AArDvarK

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Jun 19, 2002, 3:29:08 PM6/19/02
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I agree with getting rid of that scroll wheel zooming,
that is a pain. But I also use Painter 6, one great feature
is while the image frame-window is fully expanded you
can use the hand tool to move the whole picture anywhere
you want on the screen, this would be a great help in PS !

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RTM

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Jun 19, 2002, 4:38:28 PM6/19/02
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er... press the spacebar.
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Ron.
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AArDvarK

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Jun 19, 2002, 5:45:38 PM6/19/02
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nope, sorry, that did not work in PS 7.

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Tim Smith

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Jun 19, 2002, 6:08:46 PM6/19/02
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spacebar works for me............

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Steve

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Jun 19, 2002, 6:45:20 PM6/19/02
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I like the scroll wheel function in 6 much better than 7. Adobe has a habit
of breaking something you like just so you'll have to pay for an upgrade
later. Never fails. I've moved to Paint Shop Pro.

Just Me

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Jun 19, 2002, 7:05:06 PM6/19/02
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There's a newsgroup, adobe.photoshop.win.featurerequests for this, and
presumably Adobe pays attention to it. You might want to put your request
there as well.

I'd like to have the Photoshop Elements image stitching feature added.

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AArDvarK

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Jun 19, 2002, 7:35:20 PM6/19/02
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Yes I know. how to do that, I mean as a new feature
to move an entire image around on the screen no
matter what size it is. In PS this turns on only when
the preview image is larger than the window that it
is in, you can move an image aournd like that in Painter
no matter the preview image size.
It would be a great help, if the feature were simply
on no matter what in size it is magnified to, in Photoshop.

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AArDvarK


| Hi,
|
| holding the spacebar will give you the hand tool so you can pan your
| image. That didn't change in ver 7. What did change is that you
| could keep your tool selected, pan with the spacebar and zoom with
| the wheel in ver 6. Well, no more.
|
|


AArDvarK

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Jun 19, 2002, 7:45:10 PM6/19/02
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Thank you but it is not served by verizon, my ISP.
Are news groups served on the 'net somewhere?

"Just Me" wrote

AArDvarK

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Jun 19, 2002, 11:47:55 PM6/19/02
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Martin,

I KNOW!

I have been with Photoshop since version 4. And the
feature I am talking about is in Painter, what you are
talking about is nothing compared to it. It is a very
necassary feature for PS. It give a serious level of
eyesight convenience for working on graphics. The
"title bar" is unsightly and so is the window frame
around the image. If you play with the GUI of
Painter you would know what I mean. If you have
a wacom tablet then you have painter classic, same
GUI.

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| "AArDvarK" <crav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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| > Yes I know. how to do that, I mean as a new feature
| > to move an entire image around on the screen no
| > matter what size it is. In PS this turns on only when
| > the preview image is larger than the window that it
| > is in, you can move an image aournd like that in Painter
| > no matter the preview image size.
| > It would be a great help, if the feature were simply
| > on no matter what in size it is magnified to, in Photoshop.
| >
| > --
| > AArDvarK
| >
| >
|

| That, you can do. When you open an image, don't maximize it but
| expand it by grabing the lower right corner of the image window and
| dragging to the lower right corner of your screen. You can then grab
| the whole frame by it's title bar and move it whenever you want,
| image included. you only gonna lose some minute screen space on
| account of the title bar, but with todays big screen it shouldn't be
| a problem.
|
| Martin.
|
|


RTM

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Jun 20, 2002, 12:53:16 AM6/20/02
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Ah, Must be another 'improvement'. It works in 5.5.
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Ron.
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Sasha

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Jun 20, 2002, 3:36:29 AM6/20/02
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On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Fridtjof Caspar wrote:
> AND I don't get what you mean about this hand tool feature.
> How do you want to drag an image within its frame, if the frame is of
> the same size or bigger than the image?
>
> Or are you talking about moving the image and its window across the
> working space, by clicking onto it anywhere, instead of only on the
> top frame?

There are two differences:
1. In painter you could move you image anythere, not just till the border,
so you could move the right edge of the image to the center of the screen
even if the left one falls out of it. It is looks like it is impossible to
do in the fulscreen mode of PS.

2. You could freely rotate the *view* of the image. It is the same as you
probably do then you are painting on the paper without an easel.

Regards,
ASK

Sara

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Jun 20, 2002, 8:03:21 AM6/20/02
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Ok what I think means is:
In Painter, say you have an image 500X500. That image is in a window
500X500. Press the space bar and you can move that image around in the
window, so not all of it is visible. It'll go right off the side if you
want. Stays in the window, but it moves. At least I think that's what he
means.

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> Would please someone who is using Painter step in, and tell us, what
> AArDvarK is talking about?
> --
> Fridtjof
>
> contact:
> fcasparx at web dot de


Lex vd Oudeweetering

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Jun 20, 2002, 8:34:09 AM6/20/02
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I use Photoshop and Painter.
What AArdvark means is when your imageborders are within your
windowborders(so there are no sliders appearing at the bottom and right) you
still can move your picture around in Painter. In Photoshop that is not
possible.
When for instance you have maximized your window (In Windows clicking on the
rectangle middle-button on the right top of your window) and you don't have
the sliders appearing You can't move with the Hand Tool to the part of your
image that is coverd by the panels. In Painter this is possible, like PS it
has a lot of panels there. You have to push the Tab-button ( but you have to
TAB again to use the panels) for that or make the window smaller again.
When you are used to having this in Painter it feels very clumsy in PS that
it is not possible.

So I agree with him. It would be very useful


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Lex vd Oudeweetering

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Jun 20, 2002, 8:52:15 AM6/20/02
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I wrote

> You have to push the Tab-button ( but you have to
> TAB again to use the panels) for that or make the window smaller again.

This being in Photoshop, I forgot to write.

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AArDvarK

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Jun 20, 2002, 9:22:17 AM6/20/02
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LOL LMAO LAUGHS!

Now say the window is fully expanded, and you can still move the
image around on the screen with the hand tool. heh?

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AArDvarK


AArDvarK

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Jun 20, 2002, 9:28:59 AM6/20/02
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YOU SEE folks??? He has got it correctly!
It is the feature PS is dying for!

Thank you Lex!

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AArDvarK

Fungusamungus

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Jun 20, 2002, 3:22:45 PM6/20/02
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I understand it (my computer is too slow to use Painter though).

If your image is at 100% in the screen, even if the entire image is visible,
if you want to work in the bottom right corner for instance, you don't have
to lean in to see it, you can move the actual image so that the bottom right
corner is centered in the display.

In photoshop, if your image is at 100% and fits neatly within the workspace,
that's it. You can't move it around the workspace to focus on just one part.

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Fungusamungus

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Jun 20, 2002, 3:22:44 PM6/20/02
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You know, I've only used two versions (5 and 6, currently using 6) and I've
never been able to get the scroll button to work with PS...

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RTM

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Jun 20, 2002, 5:09:11 PM6/20/02
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Sounds fair enough, but where is the advantage of that over just moving a
'windowed' image around? You could even make the window slightly larger than
the image and have a border to improve clarity if the window border got in
the way.
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AArDvarK

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Jun 20, 2002, 5:43:47 PM6/20/02
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Please re-read the post from fungusamongus again.

The image's window itself cannot go beyond the upper
border of Photoshop. Say you have to work on an image
at a magnification of 1600%, you must lean in with eyes
and mouse to a lower corner to correct some criticly
bad pixels. Well currently you can't just move that lower
corner to the center of the screen. Even if the image is
is 640 x 480 and it's window is fully expanded, it sits there
in the center of the screen completely unmoveable, correct?
Well this can be done in painter you can move an entire
image anywhere on the screen no matter what size it is in
dimensions it is or preview magnification it is set to.

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Fungusamungus

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Jun 21, 2002, 5:25:02 PM6/21/02
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Nope. It did once in PS5, but for some reason it decided not to ever again,
even when I installed PS6, and even when I got a whole new OS (Win2k pro).

Btw, it was a clean install on the OS, so everything else was installed
clean too, but still no scroll...

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| > You know, I've only used two versions (5 and 6, currently using 6)
| and I've
| > never been able to get the scroll button to work with PS...
| >

| You mean it doesn't zoom when you turn the little wheely thing???
|
|


Stephan

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Jun 22, 2002, 3:53:57 AM6/22/02
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Now it makes sense!
I agree, this would be nice
 
Stephan

Robin McDonald

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Jul 3, 2002, 8:32:52 AM7/3/02
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The first most wanted feature I want in Photoshop 8 is a coupon refunding
the cost of Photoshop 7 for Photoshop 8 upgraders since Photoshop 8 will be
a proper jump in features from 6.
The second feature I want is vector liquify. Rather than jump to the liquify
window I want to make my selection and modify the selection with path nodes.
I want to dispense with the new brush variations and replace them with some
actual texture paint brushes.
I want all the old gallery artistic plugins from ten years ago thrown out
like watercolor, sketch, underpaint, etc and replaced with plugins that
actually resemble a sketch, watercolor, and an underpainting. I know it can
be done because there is a little photobooth at the mall that does a great
job of it especially the pencil sketch.
I want a much better 3d generator built in than 3d transform. The rayflect
phototracer plugin was awesome. KPT6 sort of tossed it in without actually
calling it one of their tools.
I want Z depth. Where layers are actually moveable in 3d space so if you
create a ring and flop it back you can put an image of the planet Jupiter in
the middle of the ring and the ring actually encircles Jupiter. This is as
opposed to what we might do now which is create a special layer mask or
erase a portion of the ring to make it look like the back of the ring is
hidden. But there are a lot of steps we take to emulate effects like this.
Combine this ability with my new vector liquify and 3d generator and you
might be able to do something like wrap images onto a basketball.
The more think about what I am after is I think I want Photoshop to compete
with Deep Paint 3d but still be Photoshop.
Robin


NickX

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Sep 13, 2002, 3:14:12 PM9/13/02
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YES! YES! Bravo!!!
Painter 7 has an excellent feature that allows a user to maximize the
document window and move the actual image ANYWHERE!!!

I would REALLY like to see that in PHOTOSHOP!!!

Also, painter 7 has a feature where you can define a seamless pattern.
Then the engine allows you to draw the seamless pattern while moving
the repeating pattern in any direction within the specified border!

Moreover, I would REally like to see a JPG 2000 file format plugin and
an expanded compatibility with Corel Photopaint (the ability to drag a
layer with transparency into photoshop with the transparent pixels
intact) the next version.

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