Forced hyphenation in Illustrator CS?

[MyndPhlyp]

How does one go about forcing hyphenation within a word using Illustrator CS
(v11)? I've tried tweaking the Paragraph -> Hyphenation settings but it
always wants to either hyphenate at the same place or no hyphenation at all.
I've even tried adding an Exception. If it matters, this is on Win2K.

[Piggy]

Try to use the Hypernation option which is at the bottom of Paragraph
palette.

And try to change the size of the text box abit and see. (Its not very
clear what exactly you want in you question)

Some times, though you said to hypernate and the text box hav no enough
room to expand the text lines, it wont show, but stil its hypernated.
You can check it bu changing the with of the ext box. (I hope i have
understand what you have asked for ;))

[MyndPhlyp]

"Piggy" <sris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I think one of us understands what the other is saying. Which is which is
yet to be seen.

I've tried fiddling with the hyphenation settings and can get the hyphen to
move a tad but not in the desired place. The word is "miscellaneous." I
can't seem to move the hyphen any earlier in the word than "miscel-laneous."
If I tweak up the "Before Last" that is where it lands. If I tweak it up to
"8" the word is no longer hyphenated. The desired location is
"mis-cellaneous."

I've even added in Edit -> Preferences -> Hyphenation an exception of the
value "mis-cellaneous" but it doesn't seem to matter.

If I were doing this in MS Word I could simply type a hyphen where I wanted
it and it would break and wrap at that point. If I try the same with
Illustrator CS it considers the hyphen as part of the word and doesn't
break.

[Doug Winger]

In article <edWXf.2312$i41...@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"MyndPhlyp" <nob...@homeright.now> wrote:

To enter a discretionary hyphen:

1. Select a type tool, and click where you want to enter the hyphen.
2. Press Shift+Ctrl+hyphen (Windows) or Shift+Command+hyphen (Mac OS).

To set the autohyphenation feature:

1. In the Paragraph palette, click Auto Hyphenate. If the option is not
visible, choose Show Options from the palette menu.
2. Choose Hyphenation from the Paragraph palette menu.
3. In the Hyphenate text boxes, enter the minimum number of letters
allowed from the beginning and end of a hyphenated word.
4. If desired, enter the maximum number of consecutive hyphenated lines
in the Limit Consecutive Hyphens To text box.
5. Click OK.

Help functions are there for a reason.

- Doug

[MyndPhlyp]

"Doug Winger" <just...@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:justdoug-48A610...@news-lb-01.socal.rr.com...

>
> To enter a discretionary hyphen:
>
> 1. Select a type tool, and click where you want to enter the hyphen.
> 2. Press Shift+Ctrl+hyphen (Windows) or Shift+Command+hyphen (Mac OS).
>
> To set the autohyphenation feature:
>
> 1. In the Paragraph palette, click Auto Hyphenate. If the option is not
> visible, choose Show Options from the palette menu.
> 2. Choose Hyphenation from the Paragraph palette menu.
> 3. In the Hyphenate text boxes, enter the minimum number of letters
> allowed from the beginning and end of a hyphenated word.
> 4. If desired, enter the maximum number of consecutive hyphenated lines
> in the Limit Consecutive Hyphens To text box.
> 5. Click OK.
>
> Help functions are there for a reason.

Thanks for the reply but regardless of what I do I cannot get
"miscellaneous" to break at "mis-cellaneous" even with a discretionary
hyphen in place. Am I perhaps running into a bug in Illustrator CS?

[Doug Winger]

In article <471Yf.13134$sL2....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"MyndPhlyp" <nob...@homeright.now> wrote:

If you've set the auto-hyphenation minimums properly (check preferences,
too), then perhaps it is. You might want to contact Adobe to see if
they're aware of the problem and for a possible bug fix/workaround (CS
had a lot of them). However, if the above doesn't work, about the best
suggestion I can make is to manually hyphenate the problem paragraph and
force the issue. As long as you don't need to do a lot of text
re-flowing, that should suffice.

Personally, I avoid using Illustrator as a page layout application
except if the whole thing is meant to be a single graphic, and in that
case I usually layout text "by hand". Illustrator is not really meant
for that role, but for creating individual elements for things like
InDesign or Quark to chew on. Despite Illustrator's ability to handle
text, it's not a first choice for that sort of thing.

- Doug