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Freedom Fighter

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May 30, 2007, 4:58:31 PM5/30/07
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GIULIANI KNEW IN ADVANCE OF WTC COLLAPSES!

YOUTUBE recordings from 9/11:
Giuliani admits to Peter Jennings he was warned WTC would collapse in 15
minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNmf76GUCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRdx531uZGE&mode=related&search=
http://www.wnbc.com/politics/13404578/detail.html?dl=mainclick
DRUDGE/WNBC
Giuliani Confronted At New York Fundraiser

POSTED: 11:02 am EDT May 29, 2007 UPDATED: 3:40 pm EDT May 29, 2007

NEW YORK - A group at a Bronx fundraiser confronted Rudolph Giuliani on
Tuesday
morning, accusing him of being one of the "criminals of 9/11."

The Republican candidate for president was outside City Island's Sea
Shore restaurant in the Bronx, speaking with WNBC.com's Adam Shapiro
about his fundraising in New York.

Afterward, a young woman claiming to be the relative of a Sept. 11,
2001 firefighter who died when the towers collapsed, asked Giuliani
why he allegedly told Peter Jennings the towers would fall that day,
but did not stop the rescue efforts of firefighters and police officers.

The woman claims Giuliani knew the towers would fall, and allowed
rescuers to go to their deaths. She asked him, "How do you sleep at night?"

# Video: Watch the woman confront Giuliani
Go to site above to watch the video or click here
http://video.wnbc.com/player/?id=112179

Giuliani was extremely polite, telling the young woman she was wrong
and that he never said what she claimed. At that point, another
protester from her group, a young man, interrupted Giuliani with the
same allegations.

Giuliani replied by saying, "I didn't realize the towers would
collapse." He later added, "No one that I know of had any idea they
would implode. That was a complete surprise."
----
Note Giuliani's use of the term "implode," not "collapse."
Implosion indicates controlled demolition with explosives!
----
WNBC has obtained the transcript of Giuliani's appearance with
Jennings, from the Giuliani 2008 campaign. This is the verbatim of the
issue in question:

"I--I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley
Street, which was right there with the police commissioner, the fire
commissioner, the head of emergency management, and we were operating
out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going
to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of
the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes,
and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of
people with us."
--------
So thus Giuliani piles lie upon lie to this day, denying he said what it is
proven he did say.
It would appear that he was the chosen one, the pre-planned "hero" let in on
the dirty secret
of the 9/11 inside job and allowed to obscenely profit, politically and
monetarily, from
the mass-murder of 3000 innocent Americans. It looks like the neo-Nazi
neo-cons, finding
his style of totalitarian rule to their liking, had him in mind for the
Presidency even before
the demolition explosives were put in place.
----------

http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/79737
Fire Fighters Continue Campaign Against Giuliani
WNYC Newsroom

NEW YORK, NY May 29, 2007 -Home base may not be safe for the Giuliani
campaign. Some of New York's bravest are planning to protest the
former mayor as he campaigns in the boroughs where Giulian says his
got his base support for both successful bids as mayor.

Fire Fighters and Family's for Truth say they want to debunk what they
call the 'Giuliani myth' of September 11th by highlighting what they
see, as the former mayor's failing before, during and after the
terrorists attacks. They will hold a press conference this evening in
Bay Ridge Brooklyn outside one of Giuliani's scheduled campaign stops.

Giuliani's says he has addressed the criticisms of his handling of the
city's response to the terrorists attacks saying although it was not a
prefect response, he did the best he could.
--------------------

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_149163204.html
WCBSTV May 29, 2007 7:55 pm US/Eastern
Giuliani Not Fazed By 9/11 Family Member Attack
Says He Wasn't Confident In Every Decision That Day
Slideshow: 2008 Presidential Hopefuls

Marcia Kramer Reporting

(CBS) NEW YORK Hundreds of New Yorkers helped Rudy Giuliani celebrate
his 63rd birthday a day late Tuesday.

They attended fundraisers in the four outer boroughs where the
birthday boy raked in campaign cash. But as CBS 2 HD has learned not
everyone wanted to celebrate.

The questions began early at the start of Giuliani's four-borough
fund-raising romp. Sabrina Rivera, who says she lost a family member
on 9-11, grabbed Rudy's hand and wouldn?t let go as she and others
confronted America's Mayor in the Bronx.

"I want a new investigation," Rivera said. "There was no reason why he
should dump 45 percent of the victims in a dump."

And it continued in Brooklyn. But Giuliani, whose leadership on 9-11
is one of the pillars of his presidential campaign, wouldn't allow
himself to be sucked in.

"No one that I knew had any idea that (the Twin Towers) would
implode," Giuliani said.

Later In Queens, he said he wasn't upset by the anger some feel towards him.

"This is a very, very traumatic, horrible experience," Giuliani said.
"I lived though it. I watched people die. I lost good friends, so any
anger people displace I've never had any resentment about it."

Giuliani also said he realized at the time that not all the decisions
he made that day would be right.

"I made like 10, 12, 15 decisions in a row and then I?d take a little
stop and make a little prayer and say, 'God you got to make 'em right
now,'" he said.

Campaign officials say Giuliani expects to raise half a million
dollars from his day in New York.

Guy Molinari, Giuliani's state campaign chair, said the former mayor
is doing so well in New York he doesn't think he'll face a primary
here.

------------------------------------------
A myth that needs debunking
By: Steve Benen on Wednesday, May 30th, 2007 at 5:10 AM - PDT
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/05/30/a-myth-that-needs-debunking/

Giuliani has tried to appeal to social conservatives, embracing their
agenda by pledging to appoint "strict constructionists" to the Supreme
Court, using Justices John G. Roberts Jr. and Samuel A. Alito Jr. as
examples. Conservatives expect "strict constructionists" to determine
that the Constitution does not mandate abortion rights.

But, like Dwight Eisenhower's in 1952, Giuliani's national security
stature after the Sept. 11 attacks more likely explains his continued
popularity within the religious right, whose voters have long held
hawkish positions on the issue. (emphasis added)

Eisenhower was the Supreme Commander of the Allied forces in Europe
during World War II. Giuliani was mayor of New York on 9/11.
Eisenhower's national security stature was earned by defeating the
Nazis and helping save the world. Giuliani's national security stature
is a media creation, bolstered by clever public relations. To put the
two in the same sentence is comical.

And yet, this kind of implicit praise for Giuliani has taken root.
NBC's Chuck Todd has repeatedly claimed the Giuliani "owns 9/11." The
WSJ's John Harwood said Giuliani can claim "combat" experience. The
NYT uncritically characterizes Giuliani as the "commanding daddy." The
WaPo asserted as fact that Giuliani's critics couldn't possibly go
after him "on national security" in the campaign. NBC's David Gregory
reported, "To many, 9/11 made Giuliani a hero."

And all of these examples are just from the last three weeks. The
further back we go, the more examples we find.

If ever there was a media myth in need of scrutiny, this is it.


SHOOTER586

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May 30, 2007, 7:31:04 PM5/30/07
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On May 30, 1:58 pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote:
> GIULIANI KNEW IN ADVANCE OF WTC COLLAPSES!
>
> YOUTUBE recordings from 9/11:
> Giuliani admits to Peter Jennings he was warned WTC would collapse in 15
> minutes.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNmf76GUCwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRdx531uZGE&mode=related&search=http://www.wnbc.com/politics/13404578/detail.html?dl=mainclick

> DRUDGE/WNBC
> Giuliani Confronted At New York Fundraiser
>
> POSTED: 11:02 am EDT May 29, 2007 UPDATED: 3:40 pm EDT May 29, 2007
>
> NEW YORK - A group at a Bronx fundraiser confronted Rudolph Giuliani on
> Tuesday
> morning, accusing him of being one of the "criminals of 9/11."
>
> The Republican candidate for president was outside City Island's Sea
> Shore restaurant in the Bronx, speaking with WNBC.com's Adam Shapiro
> about his fundraising in New York.
>
> Afterward, a young woman claiming to be the relative of a Sept. 11,
> 2001 firefighter who died when the towers collapsed, asked Giuliani
> why he allegedly told Peter Jennings the towers would fall that day,
> but did not stop the rescue efforts of firefighters and police officers.
>
> The woman claims Giuliani knew the towers would fall, and allowed
> rescuers to go to their deaths. She asked him, "How do you sleep at night?"
>
> # Video: Watch the woman confront Giuliani
> Go to site above to watch the video or click herehttp://video.wnbc.com/player/?id=112179
> By: Steve Benen on Wednesday, May 30th, 2007 at 5:10 AM - PDThttp://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/05/30/a-myth-that-needs-debunking/

Thanks for that cut and paste. Funny thing though, you failed to
provide any real proof. Other than proving him a politician. What
breaking news is this? I guess this is why FF can just cut and paste
without reading.

GovShill

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May 30, 2007, 7:43:19 PM5/30/07
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On May 31, 9:31 am, SHOOTER586 <shooter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 1:58 pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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> > GIULIANI KNEW IN ADVANCE OF WTC COLLAPSES!
>
> > YOUTUBE recordings from 9/11:
> > Giuliani admits to Peter Jennings he was warned WTC would collapse in 15
> > minutes.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNmf76GUCwhttp://www.youtube.com/watc...

Failure to provide any real proof is Reality Fighter's Modus Operandi.

Shill #312


John P.

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May 30, 2007, 11:09:24 PM5/30/07
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"Reality Fighter" <lib...@once.net> wrote in a message

> GIULIANI KNEW IN ADVANCE OF WTC COLLAPSES!

OMG! It's in ALL CAPS! It MUST BE TRUE!


harry k

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May 31, 2007, 12:05:07 AM5/31/07
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On May 30, 8:09 pm, "John P."
<JohnP_Da_Evil_...@WhyAreMoronsAttractedToMe.com> wrote:
> "Reality Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote in a message

>
> > GIULIANI KNEW IN ADVANCE OF WTC COLLAPSES!
>
> OMG! It's in ALL CAPS! It MUST BE TRUE!

Well, normally you would be right but this is from Freedom Fighter.
The laws of nature says anything from him is false.

Harry K

Freedom Fighter

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May 31, 2007, 8:35:01 PM5/31/07
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"harry k" <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 30, 8:09 pm, "John P."
> <JohnP_Da_Evil_...@WhyAreMoronsAttractedToMe.com> wrote:
>> "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.net> wrote in a message

>>
>> > GIULIANI KNEW IN ADVANCE OF WTC COLLAPSES!
>>
>> OMG! It's in ALL CAPS! It MUST BE TRUE!
>
> Well, normally you would be right but this is from Freedom Fighter.
> The laws of nature says anything from him is false.

Nature's biggest mistake was allowing such defects of the human mind as are
abundantly evident in yourself.
Of course it is beyond your mental capabilities to wonder -

1) How it was known in advance that the towers would collapse.
2) How the number of minutes to the collapse could be known in advance.

Oh, yes - neo-Nazi neo-cons, the Master Race to whom all others must be
subservient, are all psychics. Excuse my ignorance; and forgive my radical,
subversive, unAmerican affrontry in daring to question Authority.


David Morgan (MAMS)

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InternetLords

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It is most likely no one knew about the Trade Tower attacks in advance
except for a few militant Muslim terrorists and their funders overseas.

To try to blame Israel or the American gov't is kind of stupid. It's time
to stop trying to shift the blame to Israel or Jews when problems occur.
All that does is divert attention away from the real criminals, namely,
militant Muslim terrorists.

Proof of why it's so foolish to keep trying to shift blame to Israel and
Jews is how this simply allows more Muslim immigration into America and
Europe, and it allows the Palestinians to stay in Israel. People end up
arguing about nothing and wasting time.

Every culture deserves respect and the right to live peaceably within its
own nations. The militant Muslims are trying to live in everyone else's
nations, and not peaceably either. Poor Israel has to put up with these
waves of Muslim immigrants, such a small nation it is, Israel doesn't have
room for them. The Palestinians need to be transported out into Iraq and
paid compensation of some 50,000.00 each.

It's time to stop blaming other people and instead force the big money to
start paying its fair share by using that money to create peace and respect
for all cultures equally, within their own nations. Certainly people from
various cultures may visit other nations and some may move their, but not on
this huge reverse exodus scale we've been seeing where millions of Muslims
continue storming into Europe, America, and Israel. The only people who
profit from that immigration are the banks who print more currency for
themselves to match newly arriving immigrants, which they call economic
growth.

It's not real economic growth, it's troublemaking growth that no one needs.
If need be, then these banks right to print and keep currency must be
abolished. If it's going to be printing currency to match more
troublemaking, it's not worth it.

King Solomon himself would likely say; "If it's a choice between #1 a bigger
bank account but more militant troublemakers, bombings and deaths, and #2 a
smaller bank account but much safer streets for our children and safe, happy
sleep each night, then the second choice should be taken."

Let these militant people go back to their own countries and work on making
their own nations better, more law abiding, and more comfortable for their
own peoples.

David Morgan (MAMS)

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Jun 1, 2007, 5:41:33 AM6/1/07
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"InternetLords" <NetL...@nospam.us> wrote in message...

> It is most likely no one knew about the Trade Tower attacks in advance
> except for a few militant Muslim terrorists and their funders overseas.

And it's also likely that you have no grasp at all (probably because you
truthfully don't care to for fear that you might have to do something
about it) on the most obvious realities. Not that you're expected to
understand that your government has funded so called 'terrorism'
<cough-cough> in the middle east for nearly 70 years.. but at least
you would be expected to put simple facts together without the help
of Fox News.

THE POWER OF NIGHTMARES

Part One - 59 Minutes
<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8217638438978899371>

Part Two - 59 Minutes
<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2839463332690200955>

Part Three - 59 Minutes
<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3649090417189127240>

or

http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares


Maybe this will put the Middle East into perspective for you.

Freedom Fighter

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Jun 1, 2007, 5:19:20 PM6/1/07
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"InternetLords" <NetL...@nospam.us> wrote in message
news:lMSdnbOUauYuecLb...@comcast.com...

> It is most likely no one knew about the Trade Tower attacks in advance
> except for a few militant Muslim terrorists and their funders overseas.

The evidence to the contrary is abundant, convincing, and all over the
Internet.
The activity on Wall Street just prior to the disaster proves that it WAS
known of in advance by individuals that were postioned to profit from it.

> To try to blame Israel or the American gov't is kind of stupid. It's time
> to stop trying to shift the blame to Israel or Jews when problems occur.
> All that does is divert attention away from the real criminals, namely,
> militant Muslim terrorists.

Not stupid at all, but the logical result of an examination of the evidence.
Do you know about the "dancing Israelis," a group of Israeli men arrested in
New Jersey, literally overjoyed and dancing in the street upon witnessing
the 9/11 destruction and loss of life at the WTC?

> Proof of why it's so foolish to keep trying to shift blame to Israel and
> Jews is how this simply allows more Muslim immigration into America and
> Europe, and it allows the Palestinians to stay in Israel. People end up
> arguing about nothing and wasting time.

Had Jewish (and all other) immigration been sensibly limited years ago,
Washington would not now be fighting Israel's bloody battles for them.
Anyone with greater allegiance to a foreign nation should be deported to
their homeland, where they can join the armed forces and leave America the
hell out of their wars and strife!

> Every culture deserves respect and the right to live peaceably within its
> own nations. The militant Muslims are trying to live in everyone else's
> nations, and not peaceably either. Poor Israel has to put up with these
> waves of Muslim immigrants, such a small nation it is, Israel doesn't have
> room for them. The Palestinians need to be transported out into Iraq and
> paid compensation of some 50,000.00 each.

So the militant Zionists are not doing the same? Like the militant Muslims,
these fanatics need to be transported out of the USA to where they can no
longer sabotage us with involvement in their foreign policies.

> It's time to stop blaming other people and instead force the big money to
> start paying its fair share by using that money to create peace and
> respect for all cultures equally, within their own nations. Certainly
> people from various cultures may visit other nations and some may move
> their, but not on this huge reverse exodus scale we've been seeing where
> millions of Muslims continue storming into Europe, America, and Israel.
> The only people who profit from that immigration are the banks who print
> more currency for themselves to match newly arriving immigrants, which
> they call economic growth.

You seem to assume that all Muslims are militant fanatics. Are you that
gullible - so vulnerable to the propaganda fed us by the
government-controlled media?

> It's not real economic growth, it's troublemaking growth that no one
> needs. If need be, then these banks right to print and keep currency must
> be abolished. If it's going to be printing currency to match more
> troublemaking, it's not worth it.
>
> King Solomon himself would likely say; "If it's a choice between #1 a
> bigger bank account but more militant troublemakers, bombings and deaths,
> and #2 a smaller bank account but much safer streets for our children and
> safe, happy sleep each night, then the second choice should be taken."

Too bad our present world rulers have nothing in common with Solomon, but I
suspect that even his ancient words, or the words ascribed to him, were
hypocritical utterances.

> Let these militant people go back to their own countries and work on
> making their own nations better, more law abiding, and more comfortable
> for their own peoples.

I agree.
As there are far more Zionist fanatics here than Muslim ones, their
deportation should begin immediately.


John P.

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Jun 2, 2007, 12:54:32 AM6/2/07
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"Reality Fighter" <lib...@once.net> wrote in a message

>> It is most likely no one knew about the Trade Tower attacks in advance

>> except for a few militant Muslim terrorists and their funders overseas.

> The evidence to the contrary is...

... nonexistent. You remain blind to that reality through your willful
ignorance, and steadfast acceptance of any idiotic theory that supports your
fanatical belief in kook conspiracies.

> The activity on Wall Street just prior to the disaster proves that....

... smart investors place put options when there is significant news
indicating a stock is likely to tank, such as the numerous bad news releases
from UAL just prior to 9/11.


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