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Girls who Squish Bugs! {Or the fear of}

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bgrov...@yahoo.com

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Are there any other girls out there who are not afraid of bugs?

My girlfriend are all woosies when it comes to anything that crawls! They are
soo pathetic!...

I step on slugs for fun just to totally gross out my friends..

one time we were hanging out by a pond at sunset and there as like zillions
of litle dime sized toads hopping around..my friends didnt even want to move!

I just Squished each one barefoot as i smoked my ciggarrette and counted each
one as i smushed it..Some stuck to the road flat,some stuck to the bottom of
my feet,but they Pop like that bubble wrap stuff,its kida cool.I think i got
up to Squishing 130 of them before my friend mandy finally got sick
heheeeheehee I really dont know what the Big deal is?? My Ex-boyfriend used
to be petrified of bugs! i couldnt believe he's have to call me in to step on
the creepy crawlies??!!?? what a butthead...

I dont look like a Tomboy at all,but it catches people of guard because i
look like the type to run from anything..but looks are decieving ;)

Am i Alone out there on this?

Barbarianna


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Sheryl Kirby

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bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Are there any other girls out there who are not afraid of bugs?

<raises hand>

> I just Squished each one barefoot as i smoked my ciggarrette and counted each
> one as i smushed it..Some stuck to the road flat,some stuck to the bottom of
> my feet,but they Pop like that bubble wrap stuff,its kida cool.I think i got
> up to Squishing 130 of them before my friend mandy finally got sick
> heheeeheehee I really dont know what the Big deal is?? My Ex-boyfriend used
> to be petrified of bugs! i couldnt believe he's have to call me in to step on
> the creepy crawlies??!!?? what a butthead...

Okay... there's being afraid of bugs and little squirmy things... and then
there's being some sort of sicko that runs around killing things for the sheer
glee of it. If a mosquito is tapping a vein, then he's fair game.. but 130
defenseless toads? That were doing absolutely nothing to you at all? You need
professional help.



> I dont look like a Tomboy at all,but it catches people of guard because i
> look like the type to run from anything..but looks are decieving ;)

Perhaps... do you have a beard and horns and live under a bridge? Because you
look like a troll. And if you're not... then you just look like a big loser.

Sheryl
--
Hallowmas 1999 - October 29th to 31st, Toronto, Canada
http://www.stainedproductions.com/hallowmas/
Because when you live a life where every day is Halloween,
October 31st requires a bit more effort.

John Everett

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Sheryl Kirby wrote in message

> bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I just Squished each one barefoot as i smoked my ciggarrette and counted
> > each one as i smushed it..Some stuck to the road flat,some stuck to the
> > bottom of my feet,but they Pop like that bubble wrap stuff,its kida
cool.I think i
> > got up to Squishing 130 of them before my friend mandy finally got sick
> > heheeeheehee
>
> Okay... there's being afraid of bugs and little squirmy things... and then
> there's being some sort of sicko that runs around killing things for the
> sheer glee of it. If a mosquito is tapping a vein, then he's fair game..
but 130
> defenseless toads? That were doing absolutely nothing to you at all? You
> need professional help.

<sigh> And I was getting such wonderful visions of a modern day Belle Dame
San Merci -- a pre-Raphaelite femme fatale with moccasins made from expired
toads -- before you burst my bubble.

Besides, 130 toads out of a zillion! I'm sure the eco-system survived, so
no harm done. And, the toads weren't defenseless -- their defenses just
sucked! I'm sure those toads also derived sheer glee from every fly they
ever killed.

John
(who agrees about the professional help for the smoking cigarettes, though.
That stuff causes premature aging of the skin! Talk about crazy!)


siobhan

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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It was a dark and stormy night when bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:

>Are there any other girls out there who are not afraid of bugs?

I'm not afraid of anything except heights.

>one time we were hanging out by a pond at sunset and there as like zillions
>of litle dime sized toads hopping around..my friends didnt even want to move!
>

>I just Squished each one barefoot as i smoked my ciggarrette and counted each
>one as i smushed it..Some stuck to the road flat,some stuck to the bottom of
>my feet,but they Pop like that bubble wrap stuff,its kida cool.I think i got
>up to Squishing 130 of them before my friend mandy finally got sick

Hate to break it to you, but toads aren't bugs. In fact they eat
bugs. And if I had been there while you were doing that, you would
have ended up *in* that pond, upside-down, with a rather large brick
tied to your forehead.

>heheeeheehee I really dont know what the Big deal is?? My Ex-boyfriend used
>to be petrified of bugs! i couldnt believe he's have to call me in to step on
>the creepy crawlies??!!?? what a butthead...

Some people have phobias. I know people with fears of snakes,
spiders, frogs, heights, all kinds of things. They aren't logical,
that's what makes them phobias.

Personally I prefer to save my mockery for people who actually
deserve it for things that they *can* help.

Siobhan

....Normal is what cuts off your sixth finger and your tail...
Hallowmas Oct 29-31 {http://www.stainedproductions.com/hallowmas/}
{http://www.interlog.com/~siobhan} sio...@interlog.com
Nothing is illegal if one hundred businessmen
decide to do it.~Andrew Young

:: xanthippe ::

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My god - I think I nearly vomited - not out of the grossness of the whole
thing, but the fact that this "person" thought nothing of stomping on
innumerable happy little toads and slugs. "Pop like bubble wrap?" Gee, I
wonder what bgrover_99's little head might pop like? Gee...

Anyway, I'm sorry that this had to be my first post since May.

Professional help indeed.

+
+X+anthippe
+

----- Original Message -----
From: Sheryl Kirby <she...@stainedproductions.com>
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 5:07 AM
Subject: Re: Girls who Squish Bugs! {Or the fear of}


> bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > Are there any other girls out there who are not afraid of bugs?
>

> <raises hand>


>
> > I just Squished each one barefoot as i smoked my ciggarrette and counted
each
> > one as i smushed it..Some stuck to the road flat,some stuck to the
bottom of
> > my feet,but they Pop like that bubble wrap stuff,its kida cool.I think i
got
> > up to Squishing 130 of them before my friend mandy finally got sick

> > heheeeheehee I really dont know what the Big deal is?? My Ex-boyfriend
used
> > to be petrified of bugs! i couldnt believe he's have to call me in to
step on
> > the creepy crawlies??!!?? what a butthead...
>

> Okay... there's being afraid of bugs and little squirmy things... and then
> there's being some sort of sicko that runs around killing things for the
sheer
> glee of it. If a mosquito is tapping a vein, then he's fair game.. but 130
> defenseless toads? That were doing absolutely nothing to you at all? You
need
> professional help.
>

> > I dont look like a Tomboy at all,but it catches people of guard because
i
> > look like the type to run from anything..but looks are decieving ;)
>
> Perhaps... do you have a beard and horns and live under a bridge? Because
you
> look like a troll. And if you're not... then you just look like a big
loser.
>
> Sheryl
> --
> Hallowmas 1999 - October 29th to 31st, Toronto, Canada
> http://www.stainedproductions.com/hallowmas/
> Because when you live a life where every day is Halloween,
> October 31st requires a bit more effort.

Sheryl Kirby <she...@stainedproductions.com> wrote in message
news:3794666E...@stainedproductions.com...


> bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > Are there any other girls out there who are not afraid of bugs?
>

> <raises hand>


>
> > I just Squished each one barefoot as i smoked my ciggarrette and counted
each
> > one as i smushed it..Some stuck to the road flat,some stuck to the
bottom of
> > my feet,but they Pop like that bubble wrap stuff,its kida cool.I think i
got
> > up to Squishing 130 of them before my friend mandy finally got sick

> > heheeeheehee I really dont know what the Big deal is?? My Ex-boyfriend
used
> > to be petrified of bugs! i couldnt believe he's have to call me in to
step on
> > the creepy crawlies??!!?? what a butthead...
>

> Okay... there's being afraid of bugs and little squirmy things... and then
> there's being some sort of sicko that runs around killing things for the
sheer
> glee of it. If a mosquito is tapping a vein, then he's fair game.. but 130
> defenseless toads? That were doing absolutely nothing to you at all? You
need
> professional help.
>

Sheryl Kirby

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John Everett wrote:

> Besides, 130 toads out of a zillion! I'm sure the eco-system survived, so
> no harm done. And, the toads weren't defenseless -- their defenses just
> sucked! I'm sure those toads also derived sheer glee from every fly they
> ever killed.

So it would be okay to drop three or four thousand pounds of bricks on your
head, right? After all, you're only 1 in 6 billion.

And those frogs ate flys to survive... if little Ms Toadsquisher can prove
that killing 130 toads was necessary to sustain her life, then that's
acceptable only on the level that she needed to kill them to survive. But for
the fun of popping them like bubblewrap?

You know what they say about kids that torture animals... they grow up to
torture people.

John Everett

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Sheryl Kirby wrote in message
> John Everett wrote:
>
> So it would be okay to drop three or four thousand pounds of bricks on
your
> head, right? After all, you're only 1 in 6 billion.

Well, which is it: three OR four thousand pounds or bricks?! How am I
suppose to arbitrate between right and wrong for you if you keep
vascilating.

> And those frogs ate flys to survive... if little Ms Toadsquisher can prove
> that killing 130 toads was necessary to sustain her life, then that's
> acceptable only on the level that she needed to kill them to survive. But
for
> the fun of popping them like bubblewrap?

Watching my cat, I'm not so quick to attribute some Bethamite rationality to
an animal pursuit of food. I think my cat crushes birds and squirrils in
his jaws because *he gets off on it*. Nature is sadistic, despite our
Romantic delusions. The fact that my cats innate cruelty puts nutrients in
his stomach is pure adaptive co-incidence.

> You know what they say about kids that torture animals... they grow up to
> torture people.

Yeah, and unless her domina outfit is tacky, what's your problem?

John

Sheryl Kirby

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John Everett wrote:

> Watching my cat, I'm not so quick to attribute some Bethamite rationality to
> an animal pursuit of food. I think my cat crushes birds and squirrils in
> his jaws because *he gets off on it*. Nature is sadistic, despite our
> Romantic delusions. The fact that my cats innate cruelty puts nutrients in
> his stomach is pure adaptive co-incidence.

A cat doesn't know any better... it's instinctive. For a human to get off on
killing animals in that manner... she should know better. The fact that she
gets some sort of thrill from it is indicative that she needs serious therapy.



> > You know what they say about kids that torture animals... they grow up to
> > torture people.
>
> Yeah, and unless her domina outfit is tacky, what's your problem?

Animals are not consenting adults.

I find your flippant attitude regarding this issue extremely disturbing. Even
if your intention is to be "funny" and facetious, I still find your comments
to be in nearly as bad taste as the original post.

SANCTPROD

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Toad murderer! Too lame to even continue.

John Everett

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Sheryl Kirby wrote in message
>
> A cat doesn't know any better... it's instinctive. For a human to get off
> on killing animals in that manner... she should know better. The fact that
> she gets some sort of thrill from it is indicative that she needs serious
> therapy.

And, if even after serious therapy, she still does not conform to your
definition and imposition of environmental morality, what then? Do we find
some sort of chemical straight-jacket for her? Institutionalization?
Lobotomy? Sterilization? Execution?

Maybe before you attempt to subvert the will of other (non-consenting)
adults to your will, you might give a go at formulating a consistent
environment ethic that explains why it's "wrong" for her to kill 130 toads.
Y'know, explain *why* she should know better, rather than just shake your
finger at her.

Of course, I already stated my environmental ethic -- the preservation of
eco-systems. Have fun with yours -- and do try to make it something other
than some self-indulgent Bambi impulse where you arbitrarily grant animals
"rights" based on whether or not *you* feel sympathy for them. That's not
ethics; it's caprice, just like smushing toads.

> I find your flippant attitude regarding this issue extremely disturbing.
> Even if your intention is to be "funny" and facetious, I still find your
> comments to be in nearly as bad taste as the original post.

Tasteless how? Tasteless like Shakespeare's dark lady sonnets in an age of
Petrarchian lightness... or tasteless like a Hollowmass celebration in the
middle of Modern North America (complete, of course, with little cartoons of
fetish witches and knife-wielding chix, as well as "Sadean" and
"Deconstructivist" influenced bands.)

I wonder how many people will find your festival "extremely disturbing". I
wonder if you'll care.

John
(who understands that Caliban can also get quite cranky when he sees himself
in
the mirror.)


Wild...@webtv.net

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this person sounds like such a redneck.


Sheryl Kirby

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John Everett wrote:

> And, if even after serious therapy, she still does not conform to your
> definition and imposition of environmental morality, what then? Do we find
> some sort of chemical straight-jacket for her? Institutionalization?
> Lobotomy? Sterilization? Execution?

Oooh... could we, please?



> Maybe before you attempt to subvert the will of other (non-consenting)
> adults to your will, you might give a go at formulating a consistent
> environment ethic that explains why it's "wrong" for her to kill 130 toads.
> Y'know, explain *why* she should know better, rather than just shake your
> finger at her.

I'm not attempting to subvert anybody's will to my own. I don't know this girl
from Adam, if she's intent on harming other living creatures, then nothing I
say is going to stop her. But I have the right to my opinion, and I have the
right to voice it here, regardless of whether you or anybody else agrees with
it. Just as you have the right to voice your opinion on what I've stated,
whether I like it or not.

And why she should know better? Uh... because killing for fun is wrong. That's
a pretty basic concept, that you'll find is almost every culture. Because they
were toads doesn't make it any less wrong.


> Of course, I already stated my environmental ethic -- the preservation of
> eco-systems. Have fun with yours -- and do try to make it something other
> than some self-indulgent Bambi impulse where you arbitrarily grant animals
> "rights" based on whether or not *you* feel sympathy for them. That's not
> ethics; it's caprice, just like smushing toads.

It's amusing to see how much people *think* they know about you from a few
posts. I'll not go into details, but you're far off the mark with that "Bambi"
comment.

I like animals more than I like most people. Does that give them "rights"...
no, of course not. But it also doesn't mean that they are put on earth to be
the whim of some foolish girl whose only goal in their destruction is to
squick her friends.



> Tasteless how? Tasteless like Shakespeare's dark lady sonnets in an age of
> Petrarchian lightness... or tasteless like a Hollowmass celebration in the
> middle of Modern North America (complete, of course, with little cartoons of
> fetish witches and knife-wielding chix, as well as "Sadean" and
> "Deconstructivist" influenced bands.)

Ah, ran out of things to say in the regular argument, did we? Gotta stoop to
more personal insults.

I don't know anything at all about a "Hollowmass" celebration, sorry.
And if you find our festival "tasteless", then you are certainly welcome to
not attend. We've had no complaints from anyone about our choice of
illustrations... including that evil nasty knife-wielding pumpkin carver. Or
our bands for that matter. "Sadean" and "Deconstructivist" influenced? Well,
the bands wrote their own bios... but for someone that found the premise of
such a festival so tasteless, you certainly did spend some time reading the
website, didn't you?



> I wonder how many people will find your festival "extremely disturbing". I
> wonder if you'll care.

If they have a *genuine* problem with something that we're doing (as opposed
to someone that appears to simply be looking for something to squabble about,
like yourself), and they let us know, we'll certainly take it into
consideration. But I don't see why they would. Nobody has contacted us in any
way with complaints about the site, the bands, the illustrations or the
premise of the festival. The point of the whole event is to have fun (which
can be done, BTW, without squishing toads).

If you or anybody else has a problem with the festival or with one of the
organizers personally, then as I said, no one is forcing you to attend. But
keep in mind that while it may be 'tasteless" to you, unlike the toad-squisher
you're supporting, no people or animals get hurt by it.

Sheryl
(wondering if you're *serious* or just arguing for the sake of doing so)

lieutenant

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"John Everett" eve...@virtu.sar.usf.edu:

>Maybe before you attempt to subvert the >will of other (non-consenting)
>adults to your will,

Oh, feh. I don't see "expressing disgust" and "subversion" as the same
things..

>you might give a go at formulating a >consistent
>environment ethic that explains why it's >"wrong" for her to kill 130 toads.

Mm hm. And gawd forbid the original poster have to justify why she thinks it's
"right" to kill them in the first place.

>Y'know, explain *why* she should know >better, rather than just shake your
>finger at her.

All right, you're right here. But there's got to be a dividing line. We
explain to children why it's wrong to be beasts and taunt other kids, etc,
etc.. But I suppose many people just assume that it's not so necessary to
explain to what appears to be an at least half-way grown person why mass
toad-killing is unnecessary.

Really. And if it is so cute to this person to make toads pop, why shouldn't
it be cute to harm people as well? It's exactly what's been said before, and
it has merit. People who dig abusing living things ought not to be stood up
for, in my very own personal opinion.

>Have fun with yours -- and do try to make >it something other
>than some self-indulgent Bambi impulse >where you arbitrarily grant animals
>"rights" based on whether or not *you* feel >sympathy for them.

I believe it's less about being nice to the cutesy-wootsy animals as it is
being annoyed with the pointless killing of a bunch of toads who were just
_existing_ normally beside their lake. There is no jusification for stomping
them, even if one person might find it tres amusing.

>Tasteless how? Tasteless like >Shakespeare's dark lady sonnets in an >age of
>Petrarchian lightness...

No, that wasn't tasteless.
And hear this, I don't think people will come across posts like this in a few
hundred years and think, "Toad-squishing! Now *that* was brilliance. <shakes
head> And they called her tasteless."

>or tasteless like a Hollowmass celebration >in the
>middle of Modern North America >(complete, of course, with little cartoons >of
>fetish witches and knife-wielding chix, as >well as "Sadean" and
>"Deconstructivist" influenced bands.)

Eh, that's your opinion. And it surely can not be so tasteless as having to
turn to the .sig file to get that extra jab in.


theo
--
"Where are our dresses? We can not rest! We are doomed to roam the earth!"
--

John Everett

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Sheryl Kirby wrote in message
> John Everett wrote:
>
> But I have the right to my opinion, and I have the
> right to voice it here, regardless of whether you or anybody else agrees
with
> it.

You were doing a bit more than stating you opinion. You were attempting to
silence a conflicting opinion. I'm just saying, can't we all live in
harmony, hand-in-hand, the toad-smushers and the toad-lovers together, like
brothers and sisters in one big happy family?

> And why she should know better? Uh... because killing for fun is wrong.
That's
> a pretty basic concept, that you'll find is almost every culture.

Duh, no wonder! I skipped anthropology class during the lesson about the
universal sacred toad and the world-wide, since the beginning of time,
absence of sport hunting.

> Ah, ran out of things to say in the regular argument, did we? Gotta stoop
to
> more personal insults.

Man, I put you in the same league as Shakespeare's shattering of the
cheese-ball aesthetic of his day and you say I'm insulting you! I think you
might try backing off just a tad on your daily dose of earnestness pills.
Relax, Sheryl, you're on a cruise. Have your tried decaffinated Folger's
Crystals(tm)?

BTW, I thought the evil nasty knife-wielding pumpkin carver was cute, but
then again, I appreciate a good Belle Dame Sans Merci (and not just because
my name is 2/3 of one of the founding members of the Pre-Raphaelite
Brotherhood.)

John
(who harmed no people or animals in the writing of this post -- although it
was first animal tested on my cat, Razor.)


RoachOil

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>> John Everett wrote:

>Duh, no wonder! I skipped anthropology class during the lesson about the
>universal sacred toad and the world-wide, since the beginning of time,
>absence of sport hunting.

Theres a difference between squishing toads like bubble wrap and catching toads
to eat them.

Living in central Oregon *and the redneck-y-er places of Alaska* sports hunters
at least eat what they aren't using as a trophy ie: The deer my mom got was and
still is being eaten, the antlers are on the wall in the living room. The king
salmon I caught last month is being eaten, but the photograph hangs on the
wall, the marlon my mom caught in Hawaii was given to the natives but we kept
the beak, THE BAILEEN that was scrimshawed and given to us, was from a whale
*duh* and was EATEN by the natives.

Sports hunting isn't so bad if the stuff is being utilized. There's a
difference between killing a toadr, and killing a toad and eating it.

*RANT FINISHED*


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posby

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RoachOil wrote:
>
>Sports hunting isn't so bad if the stuff is being utilized. There's a
>difference between killing a toadr, and killing a toad and eating it.
>


see, I would have been impressed if she had eaten 130 live toads.
at least that could have been considered a meal.
A rather _large_ meal, mind you, but at least serving some sort
of purpose.
Squishing live toads with bare feet is simply cruel stupidity.
Completely pointless.

-Posbina

Sola

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<snip everything above poster has contributed to this thread, ever, from
its conception on into future days. >

Meow.


dreams of the City,
Sola
at least bloody well
be useful, why don't you.


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Sheryl Kirby

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John Everett wrote:

> You were doing a bit more than stating you opinion. You were attempting to
> silence a conflicting opinion.

Whoa! Back up there cowboy. I called her a sicko and I suggested that she
needed professional help. If anybody hopped in to silence a conflicting
opinion, 'twas you.

I'm just saying, can't we all live in
> harmony, hand-in-hand, the toad-smushers and the toad-lovers together, like
> brothers and sisters in one big happy family?

There shall be no peace as long as innocent toads are being victimized.

> Duh, no wonder! I skipped anthropology class during the lesson about the
> universal sacred toad and the world-wide, since the beginning of time,
> absence of sport hunting.

How did you pass the exam, then?

> Man, I put you in the same league as Shakespeare's shattering of the
> cheese-ball aesthetic of his day and you say I'm insulting you! I think you
> might try backing off just a tad on your daily dose of earnestness pills.
> Relax, Sheryl, you're on a cruise. Have your tried decaffinated Folger's
> Crystals(tm)?

Instant Decaf is evil. Oh, wait... there I am again, forcing my opinions on
people. A thousand pardons.

Sheryl

Valkiera

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'Twas a dark and lonely night amongst the crypts long forgotten beneath the
soil when Valkiera heard bgrov...@yahoo.com describe:
>Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you

Ah, Halloween. Samhain. The honoring of the dead, when the veils that
separate our world from the nether regions becomes thinnest. A time of
deepest respect...which comes but once a year, not everyday as you would
seem to think. A time of reverence, not dressing all in black and playing
Marilyn Manson CDs while drinking merlot beneath black candles all aglow.

>You are a wannabe Goth

Please, if you can, describe what it is to be TRULY goth vs. a "wannabe".
After all, you MUST know, since you are "I am Intense & for-real 110%".

>When i wear my Goth clothes it means something

When I wear my clothes, it is for warmth, for covering my nudity, and for
expressionism. Do clothes make the goth? Or is it something more?

>I am a Dark Demoness in every aspect..

So clothes make you dark and a product of evil? <shaking head and sighing>

>you go around hiding behind dark makeup & Bondage boots like a turtles
shell.

We all create façades to the world, either intentionally or not. What one
wears often creates stereotypes within the minds of others about what that
peson may truly be like, but most often these stereotypes are perpetuated
myths that lack any semblance of truth. The same could be said of a man with
long hair in the 50s and 60s. Your point is moot.

>Meanwhile inside you are all soft & Gooshy & should be home playing with
your "Hello Kitty" sticker collection..

What one's personal feelings may be regarding nature are sacred unto them
but may have little bearing on their "gothness". As for "Hello Kitty",
although I find it to be rather repugnant, they are nonetheless selling like
hotcakes in the Far East, and have become collectibles along the same
calibre that "Beanie Babies" are here in the US. Thousands of dollars are
spent for a single piece. Go fig.

>You go on about the philosophy of what i did?
>Wow i squished a bunch of Ugly fucken toads once...
>There is no Big meta-physical mystery...
>Stomp..Squish..Pop...end of story...

Or, "I rubbed kerosene into a cat's fur and set it on fire once. No big
metaphysical mystery. Rub, whoosh, meowrrrr...end of story." Sad. Truly sad.

>You never once spoke out for the Slugs that i Smash everyrtime i see one?

My guess is that they never got around to that, considering the rather
graphic detail of your toad-stomping episode.

>Dont worry about me a Monster..I get more Hot Guyz than you have Barbie
>dolls..

So sexual promiscuity in comparison to childhood memorabilia is now a
determining factor in the case of reverence for life? Interesting...

>I was simply Curious about the Phobia girls seem to have for Bugs & slimy
>creepy crawlies (Yes like Toads!) But obviously you all proved me right..

You like toads? Interesting way of proving this. You liked how they felt
when they popped beneath your bare feet, too.

As a side note to this, yes phobias are strange creatures. I guess that's
part of what makes us human.

~Valkiera~
************************
"So dark, like the moonlight. So flawed, like the unliving death of my eyes.
I am silent." --Contessa Belinda Di Carciofi, Poetry and Desires


Ron Cecchini

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bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Are there any other girls out there who are not afraid of bugs?

...
> I step on slugs for fun just to totally gross out my friends..
>

> one time we were hanging out by a pond at sunset and there as like zillions
> of litle dime sized toads hopping around..my friends didnt even want to move!
>

> I just Squished each one barefoot as i smoked my ciggarrette

You are a sad, sad little monster.

i hope They suck your brains out.

][

John Everett

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lieutenant <theo...@aol.comtaitschi> wrote in message
> "John Everett" eve...@virtu.sar.usf.edu:

>
> Oh, feh. I don't see "expressing disgust" and "subversion" as the same
> things..

I*M*O, I think smothering someone in an unquestionable cloud of moralistic
outrage is a worse form of oppression than either reasoning with them or
even pushing them around physically.

> Mm hm. And gawd forbid the original poster have to justify why she thinks
it's
> "right" to kill them in the first place.

Obviously because she thinks her killing them is a form of "art". And,
obviously because she thinks (probably correctly) that toads are disposible
in the production of her art (just like some people don't hesitate to
destroy less disposible trees, minerals, and petroleum products to create
their art.)

That fact that she thought she was being "creative" is likely why she
trumpeted her boast in the framework of transcending gender stereotypes.
It's likely why she posted it to alt.gothic. Yeah, sure it's Sadistic --
why is that such a shock in a sub-culture where half the wardrobe is
Sadistic? What genie did you think you were letting out of the bottle?
And, yeah, it's probably not a *masterwork* form of "art" and
"creativity" -- so why not build her up to more productive expressions,
rather than knocking her down like abusive mommies and daddies?

> >Tasteless how? Tasteless like Shakespeare's dark lady sonnets in an age
of
> >Petrarchian lightness...
>
> No, that wasn't tasteless.
> And hear this, I don't think people will come across posts like this in a
few
> hundred years and think, "Toad-squishing! Now *that* was brilliance.
<shakes
> head> And they called her tasteless."

LOL. Thank you for having a sense of humor. That was funny and well put!

John
(who hopes one day to hear some little goth high school girl bravely
defending her aesthetic by comparing it to Shakespeare's dark lady
counter-point to Petrarchian conventions.)

Lorelei Fiend

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John Everett wrote:

>You were doing a bit more than stating you opinion. You were attempting to

>silence a conflicting opinion. I'm just saying, can't we all live in


>harmony, hand-in-hand, the toad-smushers and the toad-lovers together, like
>brothers and sisters in one big happy family?

You are quite an odd cove. About half of your posts seem to be written by
someone quite thoughtful, cultured and intelligent; the rest (mostly the recent
ones) appear to be written by an arrogant, pompous twat who spills his daddy
batter through tedious, mean-spirited-just-for-the-hell-of-it arguments. Are
there two of you using the same screenname? You remind me of that cartoon where
the sweet little Tweety Bird (who you would probably like to grind into the
pavement under your jackboot) turns into a hulking, drooling beast.

You are entitled to any opinion you wish, but they are all starting to sound
dreadfully redundant. OK, you're a sociopath (or a wanna-be) with a good
thesaurus. Anything else?
~Lorelei~
* * * * * * *
"Too good to be true, but this could be you; the invert, our hero, is the
male sex, Release 2.0; upgrade today! You too may be gay"~Momus

John Everett

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RoachOil wrote in message

> >> John Everett wrote:
>
> Sports hunting isn't so bad if the stuff is being utilized. There's a
> difference between killing a toadr, and killing a toad and eating it.

I assure you, someone got to eat those toads, whether it was ants or the
plants that their dust blew into.

Nature, <sniff, sniff>, is beautiful that way.

John


John Everett

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Sheryl Kirby wrote in message

> John Everett wrote:
>
> Whoa! Back up there cowboy. I called her a sicko and I suggested that she
> needed professional help.

My fault. After reading Foucault's _Civilization and Madness_, I'm a little
touchy about seeing The Other(tm) described in the language of pathology.

Just remember, if you don't get help from $Charter$, just make sure you get
help.

> There shall be no peace as long as innocent toads are being victimized.

Then the blood of this war, Madame, shall be on your hands.

John
(So one toad said to the other, "I wear green on the outside because that's
how I feel on the inside." The other one replied, "I know what you mean.
Let's go commit angst-ridden suicide by swarming around a Sadistic girl
until she stomps on us.")

John Everett

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Lorelei Fiend wrote in message

>
> You are entitled to any opinion you wish, but they are all starting to
sound
> dreadfully redundant.

By golly, you're right. I'm going to learn to just walk away from the
maudlin, naive Romantic posts so I don't keep getting forced into being a
one-note-samba Decadant counterpoint (at least until people get used to my
idea of humor and don't get so stressed over a word play or two.)

Besides, I have to fly out of town tomorrow for work and won't be back until
Friday night (when I'm getting my heart ripped out in a modern Druid death
ceremony at the Castle.)

John
(twat who spills his daddy batter??!! Was that a mixed metaphor or are you
calling me a hermaphrodite?)

Alain Cislaghi

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Hmm... Didn't you understood yet that they already performed this
operation, which, fate, caused this excess of utter debilité from her
part?

Good friends, like me, would have performed a constructive punishment
on her in such a way that she would have been informed on the fact
that its not good to do that.
Especially that they already had a pond and several dead, squished
toads ready to serve'em in this goal.
Ahh youth.

In plus, there was a lighted cigarette.

Alain.

Brittany

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"John Everett" eve...@virtu.sar.usf.edu:

>Obviously because she thinks her killing them is a form of "art".

Where do you get this?

>It's likely why she posted it to alt.gothic.

I'd be more inclined to think she was rather clueless as to the workings of the
ng & its denizens. A.g. is not the place one would expect to find a pro
toad-squishing thread. You must be the exception.

>Yeah, sure it's Sadistic --
>why is that such a shock in a sub-culture >where half the wardrobe is
>Sadistic?

Is not. A wardrobe cannot be sadistic. Sadism is digging on the pain you
inflict or just plain pain of others, no? Clothing, I think, does not care
about the pain of others.
That aside, I know you were referring to bondage stuffs, and I still say "is
not." No matter whether I wear collars and snazzy bondage belts and trousers
and the whole lot or no, I'm still going to think someone who stomps on toads
for thrills is not my kind of person.

Just because people like to whip each other does not mean they don't care about
little toads.

Brittany

John Everett

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<Gush> My very first tag line.

John
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`Una

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John Everett wrote
> <Gush> My very first tag line.

> --------------


> Just because people like to whip each other
> does not mean they don't care about little toads.

might want to attribute that quote lest you annoy
anybody else.

`Una - the young locust
--
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Draven

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I'm not afraid of bugs. Beautiful and fascinating creatures. But, what exactly
is she trying to prove? That she's cooler than all the girls (and guys) who are
afraid of toads and bugs by squishing them for no other reason than her own
pathetic self-esteem? Different people are afraid of different things. I once
was afraid of dogs. Would she kick a dog to death just to make me sick and to
prove that she is a "tomboy" because she's not afraid? Squishing bugs doesn't
make one a tomboy. Being afraid of bugs doesn't make a guy any less of a man.
It takes a real person to admit he/she is afraid of the creepy crawlies or
anything for that matter.

Most serial killers start out killing defenseless animals, including the family
pet.


bgrov...@yahoo.com

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Sheryl,

Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you

You are a wannabe Goth

I am Intense & for-real 110%

When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness in
every aspect..

you go around hiding behind dark makeup & Bondage boots like a turtles shell.


Meanwhile inside you are all soft & Gooshy & should be home playing with your
"Hello Kitty" sticker collection..

You go on about the philosophy of what i did?


Wow i squished a bunch of Ugly fucken toads once...
There is no Big meta-physical mystery...
Stomp..Squish..Pop...end of story...

You never once spoke out for the Slugs that i Smash everyrtime i see one?
I guess only soe life deserves to exist...The usual Bias...Hypocrisy..
You played yourself..

Dont worry about me a Monster..I get more Hot Guyz than you have Barbie
dolls..

As far as me needing help?? Nahh...sorry... I got 3 Cats & 7 Dogs,a Snake
(That i feed frogs),3 Hamsters & a Ferret and i Love all of them equally.. I
once kicked a guy (My EX-Ex)in the Nuts soo hard he couldnt walk for a week
because he Kicked one of my Cats!...So dont tell me abot cruelty.

I was simply Curious about the Phobia girls seem to have for Bugs & slimy
creepy crawlies (Yes like Toads!) But obviously you all proved me right..

I'm not gonna get into it because my frinds are all Goths & they climb the
wall if a spider crawls across the floor..

Me..I walk up and Squash it!
into the dirt..where it belongs...

I dont need to fake anything..i am as Dark & Deep as i seem..

You remind me of one of those Girls from "Friday the 13th" that Jason always
fucks up first..

Nuff said'

Barbs the demoness

{John,you sound like a cool guy!}


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kendy

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bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>I am Intense & for-real 110%

Wow....your so cool.....

>When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness in
>every aspect..

When I wear my clothes...I do it so I will not be nude!...But your so cool.

>Meanwhile inside you are all soft & Gooshy & should be home playing with your
>"Hello Kitty" sticker collection..

I have a Hello Kitty sticker...want one?

>Wow i squished a bunch of Ugly fucken toads once...

Why are they ugly? Are you goddess of toad? Can you be so dumb as to say what
is beautiful and ugly in this world? Esp..a lil frog? Do you have that much of
a life?

>Stomp..Squish..Pop...end of story...

<stomp> BUT.....your still here!!! Do you have any other nifty tricks?

>Dont worry about me a Monster..I get more Hot Guyz than you have Barbie
>dolls..

Ohhh I bet your phone book is full...I heard got...@aol.com is single...Sounds
like cupid got another point.

>I was simply Curious about the Phobia girls seem to have for Bugs & slimy
>creepy crawlies (Yes like Toads!) But obviously you all proved me right..

Animal cruelty is not a phobia.

>I'm not gonna get into it because my frinds are all Goths & they climb the
>wall if a spider crawls across the floor..

I bet your friends are not as goth as you though right?

>Me..I walk up and Squash it!
>into the dirt..where it belongs...

Home is where the heart is huh?

>I dont need to fake anything..i am as Dark & Deep as i seem..

Did Marilyn Manson teach you that?

the gothic princess<kendy>


You don't have too many shoes...
Your house is much too small
(Remove the tiara to reply.)

necroangel

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>From: bgrov...@yahoo.com

>.I am a Dark Demoness in
>every aspect..

*snicker* That automatically disqualifies you from being a real goth, and
automatically qualifies you as a "wannabe Goth".

So, are you just a plain, run of the mill loser? Or are you also a troll?

necroangel
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posby

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bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote in message <7n3poq$jm8$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

>You go on about the philosophy of what i did?
>Wow i squished a bunch of Ugly fucken toads once...
>There is no Big meta-physical mystery...
>Stomp..Squish..Pop...end of story...

seriously, I think next time you should eat them.

Every last one of them.
Chew them to death.
Prove to us *all* how cool you are.

Oh.
And we want a video.
Thanks.

-Posbina

Rat Bastard

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bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
: Sheryl,

: Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you

So, do you go from neighborhood to neighborhood tryng to hit people up
for candy every night? I'm sure that your plastic WonderWoman costume
must be all tattered by now.

: You are a wannabe Goth
: I am Intense & for-real 110%

: When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness
: in every aspect..

Does that mean that we can banish you back to whatever infernal pit you
came from if we find the right incantation(s)?

: you go around hiding behind dark makeup & Bondage boots like a turtles
: shell Meanwhile inside you are all soft & Gooshy & should be home


: playing with your"Hello Kitty" sticker collection..

*chuckle* *snicker*
*chuckle* *chuckle* *snicker* *snicker*
I would say that you might want to actually know something about people
before describing them like so, but frankly, your assumptions are
amusing the hell out of me.
*chuckle*

: You go on about the philosophy of what i did?


: Wow i squished a bunch of Ugly fucken toads once...
: There is no Big meta-physical mystery...
: Stomp..Squish..Pop...end of story...

"Grog smash. Toad Ugly. Grog SMASH!!! grrrr.. SMASH!!!"
So, can 'dark demonesses' be 'neanderthals' too? If not, then I think
your'dark demoness' license just got revoked. Of course, when the
authorities find out that it was a fake all along, then you're going to
have some serious explaining to do for ol' Beelzebub. Maybe you'll get
to toss salad in hell's prison for some demon named Bo.

: You never once spoke out for the Slugs that i Smash everyrtime i seeone?
: I guess only soe life deserves to exist...The usual Bias...Hypocrisy..
: You played yourself..

Hey.. if I split this up a bit, I bet i could make some angsty poetry...
lessee:

You never once spoke out,
for the slugs that I smash
everytime I see one?

I guess
Only some life
Deserves to exist...

The usual bias...

Hypocrisy.

You
Played
Yourself.


You should thank me.. I just made you seem more Gawthick(tm).. intensely
so.. 110% even.

: Dont worry about me a Monster..I get more Hot Guyz than you have
: Barbie dolls..

So, do you occasionally pull your Hot Guyz(tm) off of the shelf and have
a little war with your barbies? Or do you just strip them down and put
them in weird sexual positions? I saw a five year old do that with a Ken
and a barbie doll once.

: I dont need to fake anything..i am as Dark & Deep as i seem..

Yup.. a deep dark empty void.

Rat Bastard
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Marcus Pan

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John Everett wrote:
> You were doing a bit more than stating you opinion. You were attempting to
> silence a conflicting opinion. I'm just saying, can't we all live in
> harmony, hand-in-hand, the toad-smushers and the toad-lovers together, like
> brothers and sisters in one big happy family?

When's the sing-along?

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Marcus Pan

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bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you

Egads! Ministry quotes! Everyone bow!

> You are a wannabe Goth

Sheryl? Wannabe? Uh...you don't pay attention. Must be the toad
licking.

> I am Intense & for-real 110%

With a capitol "I" on the Intense too...woah.



> When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness in
> every aspect..

You're going through people's AOL profiles looking for this stuff,
aren't you?



> You go on about the philosophy of what i did?
> Wow i squished a bunch of Ugly fucken toads once...
> There is no Big meta-physical mystery...
> Stomp..Squish..Pop...end of story...

And Sheryl flamed you. Wow, she flamed an ugly little girl. No
meta-physical mystery there, either. Poof...pfft...thud. End of
thread.

> Dont worry about me a Monster..I get more Hot Guyz than you have Barbie
> dolls..

Oh now THAT'S a register of success...how many can you fit in at once I
wonder?



> So dont tell me abot cruelty.

Wouldn't dream of it...you're pretty good at it.

> Me..I walk up and Squash it!
> into the dirt..where it belongs...

Would it be alright if I squashed you into the dirt...because that's
where I think you belong? Or is that DIFFerent because your a demoness
or some such?



> I dont need to fake anything..i am as Dark & Deep as i seem..

LOL!

> Barbs the demoness

Guffaw!



> {John,you sound like a cool guy!}

One of yours, I assume?

Rev. Carroll D. Kraston

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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:36:11 GMT, bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:


>
>I dont need to fake anything..i am as Dark & Deep as i seem..


Indeed.....dark as a white blouse, and deep as a mountain....

Jack

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John Everett wrote in message <9S6l3.1483$Sx4....@news.rdc1.fl.home.com>...

>Sheryl Kirby wrote in message
>> John Everett wrote:
>>
>> But I have the right to my opinion, and I have the
>> right to voice it here, regardless of whether you or anybody else agrees
>with
>> it.
>
>You were doing a bit more than stating you opinion. You were attempting to
>silence a conflicting opinion. I'm just saying, can't we all live in
>harmony, hand-in-hand, the toad-smushers and the toad-lovers together, like
>brothers and sisters in one big happy family?

No.
How about I drop by and stand on your cat until *it* pops? And then we can
all talk about how uptight and lacking in a sense of humor *you* are. Seems
fair enough.

And one more thing. You're a jerk.

<plonk>

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WorLord

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Quoth the Raven called bgrov...@yahoo.com:
>Sheryl,

>i am as Dark & Deep as i seem..

Years of use will do that to you, I suppose.

--WorLord

StrangeGirl

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bgrov...@yahoo.com screamed over the general babble in a vain
attempt to be heard:

>I am Intense & for-real 110%
>

>When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness in
>every aspect..

You sound like the Night Stalker.

You prolly think that the kids who've comitted those horrible murders
in the past few years are vaguely kewl.

Honey, get help. You have issues, whether or not you believe that you
do. Pride over cruelty to small amphibians because they are 'yucky' is
evidence enough. How old are you, anyway?

Gah. I hope you never have the care of children and I fear for your
pets.

StrangeGirl
"I've been like Daria for the Past few weeks...The Misery Chick."
"No."
"huh?"
"Daria's more upbeat."

StrangeGirl

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"posby" <po...@aracnet.com> screamed over the general babble in a vain
attempt to be heard:
<re: multiple cruel toad deaths on the part of 'Barb'>

>seriously, I think next time you should eat them.
>
>Every last one of them.
>Chew them to death.
>Prove to us *all* how cool you are.
>
>Oh.
>And we want a video.
>Thanks.

Yes. I'm with you on this. Except that I feel sorry for the toads.

Maybe *then* she'll admit that she needs some therapy...

blackd...@my-deja.com

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In article <7n3poq$jm8$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Sheryl,

>
> Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you
> You are a wannabe Goth
> I am Intense & for-real 110%
>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA AAAHHHHAHAHSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
HAHAHAHA (wheeze*cough) HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH...

Oh fuck that was so stupidly funny...

> When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness
in
> every aspect..
>

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA...etc., etc...

<snip idiocy>

> I dont need to fake anything..i am as Dark & Deep as i seem..
>
> You remind me of one of those Girls from "Friday the 13th" that Jason
always
> fucks up first..

Damn, this whole post was so ridiculous I nearly pissed myself at how
stupid it was. Just goes to prove exactly what type of ignorant and
immature asshole it takes to squish 130 baby toads.

I know this is my first post in a thousand months and I'm not supposed
to answer TROLLS, but crap, this was by far the silliest I've ever come
across lurking here...

Pamela
(I'll go now)
Black Daisies ---> http://webhome.idirect.com/~daisies
E-Mail ---> daisies [at] idirect [dot] com.

Sheryl Kirby

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bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:

First of all... I gotta say, I've never been so amused in a long, long time.
Thank you bgrover_99 for giving me something to laugh about all morning.



> Sheryl,
>
> Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you

Given that you're a sadistic little monster, I don't doubt that for a second.

> You are a wannabe Goth
> I am Intense & for-real 110%

You've been listening to too many pep talk at school again, kiddo. I never
claimed to be goth, and I certainly don't recall entering any kind of
competition based on percentage points. And exactly what makes you 110% for
real goth, anyway? I'm sure we're all peeing ourselves with anticipation to
find out, please, do elaborate.

> When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness in
> every aspect..

And what are you when you *don't* wear your Goth clothes, sweetcheeks? Are you
still a "Dark Demoness" when you're all tucked into bed in your Sailor moon
jammies?

> you go around hiding behind dark makeup & Bondage boots like a turtles shell.

Oh, look guys, don't you just want to grab her and pinch her precocious little
cheek? It's so enlightened of you to make such assumptions and
generalizations, dearie. And remember, as you said, I'm just a wannabe Goth...
no bondage boots for me... I have to make due with a pair of winter boots with
some old belts glued to them.

> Meanwhile inside you are all soft & Gooshy & should be home playing with your
> "Hello Kitty" sticker collection..

Soft and Gooshy, hmmm... kind of like those toads, huh?



> You go on about the philosophy of what i did?
> Wow i squished a bunch of Ugly fucken toads once...
> There is no Big meta-physical mystery...
> Stomp..Squish..Pop...end of story...

Hardly.
There are a lot of issues to your behaviour... control issues, anger
management, ego. The fact that you thought it was cool to squish these
animals, frighten your friend to the point of making her physically ill, and
then come onto a newsgroup in front of 17,000 strangers to brag about it says
an awful lot about your psyche. And about your soul.

> You never once spoke out for the Slugs that i Smash everyrtime i see one?

> I guess only soe life deserves to exist...The usual Bias...Hypocrisy..
> You played yourself..

You're right, I didn't, and that was wrong. There are however degrees of
consideration within this situation... I will squish a mosquito that bites
into me... I will put out bowls of beer to keep slugs out of my garden, I eat
meat. But there's a difference between that and what you did... and why you
did it.



> Dont worry about me a Monster..I get more Hot Guyz than you have Barbie
> dolls..

I would hope so, seeing as I gave up collecting Barbies 18 years ago. And
exactly what are "guyz" anyway?



> As far as me needing help?? Nahh...sorry... I got 3 Cats & 7 Dogs,a Snake
> (That i feed frogs),3 Hamsters & a Ferret and i Love all of them equally..

Then one would think that you would have considerably more respect for the
animals in the world around you. As it is, I cannot help but feel extremely
sorry for your pets. I certainly hope that you display a different side of
your personality to them than you have done here.

> I was simply Curious about the Phobia girls seem to have for Bugs & slimy
> creepy crawlies (Yes like Toads!) But obviously you all proved me right..

How so? Substantiate your comment with quotes. I've seen no other posts in
this thread indicating that anyone has a phobia of bugs and "creepy crawlies".
The reason I responded to you in the first place was to say that I did *not*
have such a phobia, and regularly handle spiders, lizards, etc.



> I'm not gonna get into it because my frinds are all Goths & they climb the
> wall if a spider crawls across the floor..

That's too bad for them... spiders are exquisite and beautiful animals.



> Me..I walk up and Squash it!
> into the dirt..where it belongs...

That's funny... I pick it up and take it outside. Perhaps you're not as big
and fearless as you think you are. You may have the "courage" to kill it while
your friends sit by and squeal, but are you strong enough to pick it up and
save it?



> I dont need to fake anything..i am as Dark & Deep as i seem..

Right. We're gonna get a crew out here right away to put a cover on the well
of your soul. We wouldn't want any of the neighborhood kids falling in and
getting stuck down there.



> You remind me of one of those Girls from "Friday the 13th" that Jason always
> fucks up first..

Funny that... you remind me of an immature, pretentious, snot-nosed little
idiot.

Sheryl
--
Hallowmas 1999 - October 29th to 31st, Toronto, Canada
http://www.stainedproductions.com/hallowmas/
Because when you live a life where every day is Halloween,
October 31st requires a bit more effort.

mew mew mew

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>No.
>How about I drop by and stand on your cat until *it* pops? And then we can
>all talk about how uptight and lacking in a sense of humor *you* are. Seems
>fair enough.
>

Leave the cat out of this, kitty is just an innocent bystander. Just step on
John until *he* pops.
"True revolution is in mind. Remember that and all else shines" >^..^<

mew mew mew

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CAN WE SAY TROLL?


>Barbs the demoness
<snipped about lame gratuitous toad killing and about how she is sooo much more
goth that everyone else in this world and a slut to boot>

Curgoth (Matthew Andrews)

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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:56:44 -0400, Marcus Pan <p...@zenweb.com> wrote:

>John Everett wrote:
>> You were doing a bit more than stating you opinion. You were attempting to
>> silence a conflicting opinion. I'm just saying, can't we all live in
>> harmony, hand-in-hand, the toad-smushers and the toad-lovers together, like
>> brothers and sisters in one big happy family?
>

>When's the sing-along?

Last thursday at 25:00. Be there or be an n-dimemsional polyhedron.


--
Dream well...

Curgoth

klaatu

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Sola wrote:
>
> John Everett <eve...@virtu.sar.usf.edu> wrote:
>
> <snip everything above poster has contributed to this thread, ever, from
> its conception on into future days. >
>
> Meow.
Meow.

>
> Sola

--
"We look through a glass but darkly:
What we see is more colored by our beliefs,
than what we believe is colored by what we see."
Be kind to your neighbors, even though they be transgenic chimerae.
Whom thou'st vex'd waxeth wroth: Meow. http://www.clark.net/pub/klaatu/

klaatu

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posby wrote:
>
> RoachOil wrote:
> >
> >Sports hunting isn't so bad if the stuff is being utilized. There's a
> >difference between killing a toadr, and killing a toad and eating it.
> >
>
> see, I would have been impressed if she had eaten 130 live toads.
> at least that could have been considered a meal.

I'm surprised that the Oz contingent hasn't chimed in something to the
effect of "what a waste of perfectly lickable toads dammit!"

>
> -Posbina

The Red Queen

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bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:

> I am Intense & for-real 110%

"I can't just be 100%, which is the most you can be anything.

"I have to quote that old deodorant commercial, and go on about being 110%.
Because deodorant is Goth."

Megan the Red Queen (note that I am not saying deodorant is *not* Goth; I don't
think deodorant is associated with a particular subculture)


Nyx

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bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:

>Sheryl,
>
>Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you

>You are a wannabe Goth

>I am Intense & for-real 110%

I knew there was something familiar about this.........


209.240.200.95

It's webtv. And I think they have posted here before.

Nyx

"If you open your mouth I can't be responsible for quite what
goes in, or to care what comes out."
Standing at the corner of Fascination St.and Detonation Blvd.


Nyx

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bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:

>Sheryl,
>
>Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you

BTW, that's a Marilyn Manson quote. He said it several years ago.

Valkiera

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When the cold winds chill the warmth of my soul and the night sings away the
brightness therein, I often reflect upon the words of Sheryl Kirby who wrote
in message <37960744...@stainedproductions.com>...

>> As far as me needing help?? Nahh...sorry... I got 3 Cats & 7 Dogs,a Snake
>> (That i feed frogs),3 Hamsters & a Ferret and i Love all of them
equally..
>
>Then one would think that you would have considerably more respect for the
>animals in the world around you. As it is, I cannot help but feel extremely
>sorry for your pets. I certainly hope that you display a different side of
>your personality to them than you have done here.

Why am I suddenly reminded of "Elmira" from "Tiny Toon Adventures"?
"Ooooo...KITTY! I'm gonna take you home and hug you and squeeze you and pet
you and love you foreeeeever and eeeever!"

~Valkiera~
************************
"So dark, like the moonlight. So flawed, like the unliving death of my eyes.
I am silent." --Contessa Belinda Di Carciofi, Poetry and Desires


Helvetia

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bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Sheryl,
>
> Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you

> You are a wannabe Goth
> I am Intense & for-real 110%

Yeah, intense and for real 110% fucking ignorant!

> When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness in
> every aspect..

Really? It still means you are fucking ignorant!

> you go around hiding behind dark makeup & Bondage boots like a turtles shell.

> Meanwhile inside you are all soft & Gooshy & should be home playing with your
> "Hello Kitty" sticker collection..

I'd really love to see your spiffy outfit!



> You go on about the philosophy of what i did?
> Wow i squished a bunch of Ugly fucken toads once...
> There is no Big meta-physical mystery...
> Stomp..Squish..Pop...end of story...

Stomp, squish, pop, that's what must have happened to your brain, when
you were born.



> You never once spoke out for the Slugs that i Smash everyrtime i see one?

Trying to live out your deja-vu experience on defenseless creatures?

> I guess only soe life deserves to exist...The usual Bias...Hypocrisy..
> You played yourself..
>

> Dont worry about me a Monster..I get more Hot Guyz than you have Barbie
> dolls..

Bah, I'm soo jealous of your inbreed red-neck neighbour brothers.....

> As far as me needing help?? Nahh...sorry... I got 3 Cats & 7 Dogs,a Snake

> (That i feed frogs),3 Hamsters & a Ferret and i Love all of them equally.. I
> once kicked a guy (My EX-Ex)in the Nuts soo hard he couldnt walk for a week

> because he Kicked one of my Cats!...So dont tell me abot cruelty.

And you're wondering why he is your EX ? He got smart baby!

> I was simply Curious about the Phobia girls seem to have for Bugs & slimy
> creepy crawlies (Yes like Toads!) But obviously you all proved me right..

So, every time you try to make a point, you start some senseless
killing-rage? The more evolved of us homo sapiens use lingual
communication for these purposes.



> I'm not gonna get into it because my frinds are all Goths & they climb the
> wall if a spider crawls across the floor..
>

> Me..I walk up and Squash it!
> into the dirt..where it belongs...

And one day, you'll be in that dirt too, where you belong.....



> I dont need to fake anything..i am as Dark & Deep as i seem..

Yep, the big emptyness in your brain!



> You remind me of one of those Girls from "Friday the 13th" that Jason always
> fucks up first..

You'd rather BE fucked by him, wouldn't you?

>
> Nuff said'
>
> Barbs the demoness
>

> {John,you sound like a cool guy!}


Sure, maybe you guys should breed! (Shudder!)

Helvetia


Helvetia

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Rat Bastard wrote:
>
> bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
-snip-
>
> : When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness
> : in every aspect..
>

> Does that mean that we can banish you back to whatever infernal pit you
> came from if we find the right incantation(s)?
>

......the words are:
Clatu, Veratu, Nictu.....

Helvetia


TSM

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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:36:11 GMT, bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:

>Sheryl,
>
>Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you

You know, 'ol Al disowned
that album because of little
pussy-lipped disease-sucking rejects like you.

>You are a wannabe Goth
>I am Intense & for-real 110%

Which is why you spend your nights
messing up your $300.00 boots by smashing toads, wee one?

Jesus Fucking Christ.
How old are you?

Tell you what,
why don't you have one of your fellow
mansonites take your club-footed, nasty, spotty,
smelly, bald, cranial-ridge-that-you-could-roll-a
marble-down-havin' ass outside
and facefuck you on a tombstone?

I never thought I'd say this,
but in your case that might just
comprise a step -up.-

>When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness in
>every aspect..

Oooh, I bet you've got black tampons, too, don't you?

This is of course assuming you've
reached that point in your life.



>you go around hiding behind dark makeup & Bondage boots like a turtles shell.
>Meanwhile inside you are all soft & Gooshy & should be home playing with your
>"Hello Kitty" sticker collection..

I bet you're all gooshy inside, too.
Maybe we should cut you open and see?

This is of course pending your express permission.

So what's up?
Goth enough to be in a snuff-film?

No Sanrio, I promise.

>You go on about the philosophy of what i did?
>Wow i squished a bunch of Ugly fucken toads once...
>There is no Big meta-physical mystery...
>Stomp..Squish..Pop...end of story...

I wonder if Shelly, or Byron, or Rimbaud
would have agreed with you?

Hell,
I wonder if Anne Rice would agree with you.

If you were to ask them,
<the first three, and yes, probably Anne, too>
there's something meta-physical to just about everything.

You see,
you probably think you'd get along real
well with some of the old-schoolers
like The Marquis de Sade or Lady Bathory
<the dead one, not Rachel>
but I don't think they'd care for you one bit.
Were you to ask me,
I think the both of them were pretty twisted and sick,
but I do have to admit that there was an art
to their way of doing things.

By your own admission,
there's nothing to it aside from
"Stomp, Squish, Pop,"
Right?

They'd probably make you for the sadistic,
immature little poseur bitch that you are.

Oooh, sp00ky.
Deep, too.

>You never once spoke out for the Slugs that i Smash everyrtime i see one?

>I guess only soe life deserves to exist...The usual Bias...Hypocrisy..

^^^
"Some."

Typing is neat.

>You played yourself..

At this point it goes beyond all the things
on God's earth that slither and crawl.

At this point it's all about getting you to visualize
you doing the 100 yard-dash in an attempt to
escape from a crowd of pitchfork
and torch-weilding Peta members after we've
crowbarred a pool-ball up your ass for every living
thing you've ever smashed for an irritating little giggle.

>Dont worry about me a Monster..I get more Hot Guyz than you have Barbie

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ook Ook.

Typing is still neat.

>dolls..

Hot Guyz?
Oh *wow!*
What clan are -they?-

I'm dying to know,
did they make up their *own* names
or do they just pick them from the books?

Hot Guyz,
yeah, I bet.

Let me paint a picture for
all you people out there in teevee land.
While it might be somewhat Peakeian
in it's grotesqueness,
something tells me that it's
going to ring true to a few of you.

If you were to squeeze all the shit out
of Atticus The Raven's face and put it in a bowl,
I bet you'd have enough to drown a kitten,
and you'd like that, wouldn't you, little miss?

As for Devon von Nachtenleiber,
he's a tall drink of water at 6'7",
and weighs in at an oh-so-gothy 104 lbs.
He'll be the ultimate gentlemen of the night
once he can get over that stutter
and that bed-wetting thing.

Finally, there's Santiago Rosanova,
a suave man with a rapier wit,
dashing good-looks and a quick,
steady hand for a dueling pistol.
At least that's what his mother tells him.
She would know,
he talks to her all the time,
and he's been there in the same house
with her for the past 36 years.
The only woman Santiago has ever seen
naked is his dog, Muffins.

Indeed, is it any suprise that all these
worthy virg^H^H^H^H suitors have lined up
for the favor of our hatchet-faced heroine?
Indeed, she is quite a prize,
intellegent, mature, and let's not forget,
110% goth ALL THE TIME.
Indeed, she's just as at home scowling all alone
on the perimeter of a dance club as she is
strapped to the front of a buggy.

Don't you just wanna take her home?
I hear she kills household pests, too!
I'll bet she talks alot, too.

>As far as me needing help?? Nahh...sorry... I got 3 Cats & 7 Dogs,a Snake
>(That i feed frogs),3 Hamsters & a Ferret and i Love all of them equally.. I
>once kicked a guy (My EX-Ex)in the Nuts soo hard he couldnt walk for a week
>because he Kicked one of my Cats!...So dont tell me abot cruelty.

Obvious explanation;
you can't convince any humans to
stay around you for a period exceeding
ten minutes so you have to keep your
"friends" locked in the house so they
can't get away.

Do they talk to you?

Do they tell you you're a pretty girl
and that the other voices are wrong when
they call you bad things?

Do they. . .
. . .and be honest here,

do they tell you to eat human flesh?

>I was simply Curious about the Phobia girls seem to have for Bugs & slimy
>creepy crawlies (Yes like Toads!) But obviously you all proved me right..

I'm afraid of the dark.

The dark is when all the kooky
internet-stalkers who've found out
where I live come and peer in my windows
so they can mail me up the next day
and tell me what color my eyes are.

>I'm not gonna get into it because my frinds are all Goths & they climb the

^^^^^^
Typing is. . .

Heeeey,
you know the line by now.

>wall if a spider crawls across the floor..

No,
your friends are all little sally-boy
cupcake nellies with less balls than a
ladies' locker-room after a hockey-match.

Of course, the fact that you could find
more spine in a crustacean prolly has
oodles to do with the fact that they'll
put up with you and what has got to be a
constant stream of irritating chatter
that drowns out jet-engines from the moment
you walk into a room right up until the moment
that you have mercy on it's occupants and leave.

>Me..I walk up and Squash it!
>into the dirt..where it belongs...

What if you're inside?
You mean you never vacuum?
That's unsanitary.

>I dont need to fake anything..i am as Dark & Deep as i seem..

And as Limber and Loose too!
Whoo Hoo!
Get enough alcohol in her
and she'll fuck a basketball!

>You remind me of one of those Girls from "Friday the 13th" that Jason always
>fucks up first..

You remind me of one of the girls
out at the club who gets beer poured
on her by the other girls
before the guys ask;
"you still here, bitch?"

>Nuff said'

Wow,
we concur!

>Barbs the demoness

--TSM the Blast-Furnace

>{John,you sound like a cool guy!}

No, he sounds like a prison-bitch with a bad limp.


Rev. Carroll D. Kraston

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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:16:48 GMT, incen...@ELSPAMMOearthlink.net
(TSM) wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:36:11 GMT, bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>Sheryl,
>>
>>Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you
>
> You know, 'ol Al disowned
> that album because of little
> pussy-lipped disease-sucking rejects like you.

I think you are thinking of With Sympathy...Halloween isn't on there,
it was released later on Wax Trax..

Nile Evil Bastard

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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:36:11 GMT,
bgrov...@yahoo.com <bgrov...@yahoo.com> wrote:

:Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you
:You are a wannabe Goth


:I am Intense & for-real 110%

:When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness in
:every aspect..


I shit more goth things than you after my morning pot of espresso.


:Barbs the demoness
:{John,you sound like a cool guy!}


See, John? a.g gets you the sxxy dxth chxcks. You lucky thing you.


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On 21 Jul 1999 07:03:12 GMT,
kendy <gothg...@aol.comtiara> wrote:
:bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:

:>When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness in
:>every aspect..

:When I wear my clothes...I do it so I will not be nude!...But your so cool.


Yes, but are you blatantly Goth While Nekkid? That is the question.

Rain

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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:36:11 GMT, bgrov...@yahoo.com did spew:

[Gothentication snipped]

>There is no Big meta-physical mystery...
>Stomp..Squish..Pop...end of story...

[more excrement squished]

>I'm not gonna get into it because my frinds are all Goths & they climb the

>wall if a spider crawls across the floor..
>

>Me..I walk up and Squash it!
>into the dirt..where it belongs...

I guess I have some fear of the vatos locos who live all around me. There's
one they call Bug, you know. And there's Spider (who works with me). Perhaps
you'd like to come and "Stomp..Squish..Pop" them for me. You could then
discuss the metaphysical (its one word, Your Gothness) mysteries with the
creepy crawlies that would be soon thereafter feasting on your rotting flesh.

>I dont need to fake anything..i am as Dark & Deep as i seem..

Well, that changes Everything, now, doesn't it? My eyes have been opened at
last, as I hope have all the others'. We didn't know. Please, have mercy,
in the name of all that's Dark & Deep, I beg of you. The real You has been
revealed to Us at Last, your Words have opened the Closed doors of our
Minds, we See you as you are and Not just as you Seem.

>You remind me of one of those Girls from "Friday the 13th" that Jason always
>fucks up first..

You remind me of that chick who's buried in my backyard.

>Nuff said'

Snuff aid (I like anagrams). Get some. Now. Before they run out. The
gene pool will thank you for it.

Rain
(who's been told that some of the vatos locos are afraid of him[1], in fact)

[1] apparently it takes more balls than most have to wander about Echo Park in
black velvet skirt and makeup[2]

[2] always remember to take a change of clothes if you plan to be somewhere
other than at home after a night at the club and you have to find a way home
in the morning

--
somewhere between sorrow and regret is a lesson to be learned

"Do I care?"


:: xanthippe ::

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> You are a wannabe Goth
> I am Intense & for-real 110%

Wow, looks like we'd all just better turn-in our
Goth-Cards. There just isn't room for us now.

> When i wear my Goth clothes it means
something...

Goth clothes? Is that, like, a brand I can buy at
Hot Topic? Oh, wait, I forgot, I don't have my
card anymore. Upon realization of your existence,
the Goth Police came and revoked it before I could
do the respectable thing and turn it in. Sniff.

> There is no Big meta-physical mystery...

Wow, you must be smart. I always thought
meta-physical was just *one* word, sans hyphen.

> You never once spoke out for the Slugs that i
Smash everyrtime i see one?

Well, I've always been in the habit of saving them
from the wrath of hapless pedestrians by carrying
them to the safety of a nearby lawn. But now that
I know that you'd never do such a thing, my idol,
I have cast aside such compassion.

> ..I get more Hot Guyz than you have Barbie

> dolls..

Oh... wait. This is a joke, isn't it. Some regular
poster at a.g. is having a big ha-ha right now....
right? Come on, someone tell me this was all a big
joke. Please.

Brother!

+
+X+anthippe
+

Narnia

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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:40:07 GMT, nyx...@yahoo.com (Nyx) wrote:

>bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:

>>Everyday is Halloween to me...Not to you
>

>BTW, that's a Marilyn Manson quote. He said it several years ago.

<shudder>

It's a quote from Ministry's "Everyday Is Halloween." Said by Al
before Brian Warner(?) stopped jacking off in his high school
restroom.


=Narnia=
http://www.velvet.net

JeanCroix

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Helvetia <cbli...@netscape.net> writes:

>Rat Bastard wrote:
>>
>> bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>-snip-
>>

>> : When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness
>> : in every aspect..
>>

>> Does that mean that we can banish you back to whatever infernal pit you
>> came from if we find the right incantation(s)?

>......the words are:
> Clatu, Veratu, Nictu.....


ITYM "Klaatu Barada Nikto," HTH.


But I doubt those words would work in this case...


-JeanCroix, who says "Necktie! Nickel! Ngh-a*cough*cough*"
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Helvetia

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JeanCroix wrote:
>
>
> >......the words are:
> > Clatu, Veratu, Nictu.....
>
> ITYM "Klaatu Barada Nikto," HTH.
>
> But I doubt those words would work in this case...
>
> -JeanCroix, who says "Necktie! Nickel! Ngh-a*cough*cough*"
> --

Sneeeeezzz, cough, cough, cough.....looks around and waits if something
happens.....
Ah shoot, I know I'd get something wrong along the way!

Helvetia


mew mew mew

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>> Barbs the demoness
>>
>> {John,you sound like a cool guy!}
>
>
>Sure, maybe you guys should breed! (Shudder!)

NO!!!!!!! We don't need more like them!

A.
"wedding cake is the worlds most effective anti-aphrodisiac."-?

klaatu

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JeanCroix wrote:
>
> Helvetia <cbli...@netscape.net> writes:
>
> >Rat Bastard wrote:
> >>
> >> bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >-snip-
> >>
> >> : When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness
> >> : in every aspect..
> >>
> >> Does that mean that we can banish you back to whatever infernal pit you
> >> came from if we find the right incantation(s)?
>
> >......the words are:
> > Clatu, Veratu, Nictu.....
>
> ITYM "Klaatu Barada Nikto," HTH.
>
> But I doubt those words would work in this case...

Exactly, that's how you tell my indestructible robot policeman that I've
been captured and must be returned to the ship and revived if I should die.

>
> -JeanCroix, who says "Necktie! Nickel! Ngh-a*cough*cough*"

A rupee for my scarf, memsahib?

klaatu

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Helvetia wrote:
>
> Rat Bastard wrote:
> >
> > bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> -snip-
> >
> > : When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...I am a Dark Demoness
> > : in every aspect..
> >
> > Does that mean that we can banish you back to whatever infernal pit you
> > came from if we find the right incantation(s)?
> >
>
> ......the words are:
> Clatu, Veratu, Nictu.....

Gort! Merinkay!

>
> Helvetia

Nubianne Kthulah Black

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TSM wrote:

> Oooh, I bet you've got black tampons, too, don't you?

Hey...Can I use that idea?

I was thinking black, and "cup-shaped" with a pentagram
printed on the side facing outwards, sort of like an unholy
cervical shield thing.
::ducking and going back to my (of course, black painted)
corner to bite the heads off of the gingerbread men and
fondle my p...ppp...ppow... damn, I can't make myself even
think it when I'm being impish::


--
================================================
= Life's not meant to be fair. =
= Death is not a viable option. =
= There is no "happily ever after". =
= So kiss the frog, and then devour him.=
================================================

Rev. Carroll D. Kraston

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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:12:16 +0000, klaatu <kla...@clark.net> wrote:


>A rupee for my scarf, memsahib?
>


wow! Indian words!
Didn't think I'd see that here...

FatherHoly

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>> bgrov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> : When i wear my Goth clothes it means something...
It probably means your wearing your "cool" uniform.

Fr. P.P. Holy, OBL
"Fuck 'em anyway - if they mattered, I would care."
Who are these people anyway?

To reply, tear down the fort.


FatherHoly

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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In article <slrn7pdv6j.14t...@doomkitten.futuremac.com>,
rainSp...@futuremac.com (Rain) writes:

>I guess I have some fear of the vatos locos who live all around me. There's

Viva la Raza. Wow, cholo goths. What a concept. How would one wear a bandana
like that AND have big hair?

>You remind me of that chick who's buried in my backyard.

Are you the guy in Torrance?

>[1] apparently it takes more balls than most have to wander about Echo Park
>in
>black velvet skirt and makeup[2]

I love that place. That is where I first stole a bottle from a wino. Is the
water still toxic? Me thinks butt boy needs to hang out at 7th and Olive for a
while.

Nice flashback.
Thanx Rain.

FatherHoly

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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In article <37b024fa....@news.mindspring.com>, nar...@velvet.net (Narnia)
writes:

>>BTW, that's a Marilyn Manson quote. He said it several years ago.
>
><shudder>
>
>It's a quote from Ministry's "Everyday Is Halloween." Said by Al
>before Brian Warner(?) stopped jacking off in his high school
>restroom.
>
>
>=Narnia=

Shhhh ! ! ! ! Leave the lad alone. Just a bit more from him and he'll hang
himself. Maybe it'll be autoerotic asphixiation with MM pictures all around.

We can only hope.

The Red Queen

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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mew mew mew wrote:

> >> Barbs the demoness
> >>
> >> {John,you sound like a cool guy!}
> >
> >
> >Sure, maybe you guys should breed! (Shudder!)
>
> NO!!!!!!! We don't need more like them!

Don't worry. Narnia meant they should breed so that we could take all
of their spawn and pop their little heads and squish them noisily.

Megan the Red Queen (I'll take the first one . . . POP!)


FatherHoly

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In article <379781CE...@klingons.com>, Nubianne Kthulah Black
<kth...@klingons.com> writes:

>I was thinking black, and "cup-shaped" with a pentagram
>printed on the side facing outwards, sort of like an unholy
>cervical shield thing.

With rosary beads for a string?

Shadow Walker

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<another delurker here>

Nubianne Kthulah Black wrote:


>
> TSM wrote:
>
> > Oooh, I bet you've got black tampons, too, don't you?
>

> Hey...Can I use that idea?
>

> I was thinking black, and "cup-shaped" with a pentagram
> printed on the side facing outwards, sort of like an unholy
> cervical shield thing.


Real Goths (tm) don't wear tampons...

--
Ooh, look at me, I'm Gothic. And if I change my name to Rusty Cervix,
I'll be Industrial too!

Aidan Skinner

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On 22 Jul 1999 19:10:46 +1000, Nile Evil Bastard <nil...@iname.com> wrote:

>I shit more goth things than you after my morning pot of espresso.

Consume less iron.

- Aidan
--
http://www.skinner.demon.co.uk/aidan/
How much can could ICANN can if ICANN could can-can?

Narnia

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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:09:18 -0400, The Red Queen
<red-...@prodigy.net> wrote:

>Don't worry. Narnia meant they should breed so that we could take all
>of their spawn and pop their little heads and squish them noisily.

I didn't say that. It was someone else who suggested they breed.

I suggest they be sterilized *now* before it's too late.


=Narnia=
http://www.velvet.net

kendy

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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Rain wrote:
>I guess I have some fear of the vatos locos who live all around me. There's
>one they call Bug, you know. And there's Spider (who works with me).

I have a major thing for cholo type guys....It must be cus I grew up a few
blocks from the "hood". I think I am the only goth who buys LowRider mag. to
look at the guys!

>[1] apparently it takes more balls than most have to wander about Echo Park
>in
>black velvet skirt and makeup[2]

Mi Vida Loca! That was filmed in Echo Park iirc.

the gothic orincess<kendy>
You don't have too many shoes...
Your house is much too small
(Remove the tiara to reply.)

kendy

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nil...@iname.com wrote:
>:When I wear my clothes...I do it so I will not be nude!...But your so cool.

Yeah cus I paint my nipples black....cus I am spooookkkkyyy.....=P

the gothic princess<kendy>

Rain

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On 22 Jul 1999 22:04:44 GMT, FatherHoly did write:
>Viva la Raza. Wow, cholo goths. What a concept. How would one wear a bandana
>like that AND have big hair?

Only the OGs know that little secret. And I'm not one. I just play one on
TV.

>>You remind me of that chick who's buried in my backyard.
>Are you the guy in Torrance?

Eeewww! Eeewww! Thank YOU for the flashback. No I haven't even been IN
Torrance in nearly a decade, and I plan to continue that streak.

No, I'm the guy from the wrong side of Hollywood (which is pretty much
anywhere east of Highland).

>I love that place. That is where I first stole a bottle from a wino. Is the
>water still toxic? Me thinks butt boy needs to hang out at 7th and Olive for a
>while.

It's not so bad near the lake. I don't drink the water, so can't say for
sure.

butt boy? hmmmm... I'll get back to you on that one.

Rain

Rain

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On 23 Jul 1999 00:52:20 GMT, kendy did write:

>I have a major thing for cholo type guys....It must be cus I grew up a few
>blocks from the "hood". I think I am the only goth who buys LowRider mag. to
>look at the guys!

Too bad I'm not a cholo type guy then... I just know a lot of them. Spider
is one of the most intelligent and interesting people I know... he looks and
talks like a stereotypical vato, but he's a geek like everyone else at work.

"Que honde, ese" is geekspeak for "screw the router, it's time to break for
lunch and have a beer," right?

>Mi Vida Loca! That was filmed in Echo Park iirc.

Don't know if it was filmed there (although I guess some scenes would have had
to have been), but it was about Echo Park gangbangers.

kendy

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Rain wrote:
>Too bad I'm not a cholo type guy then...

I like all types of guys!;)

>"Que honde, ese" is geekspeak for "screw the router, it's time to break for
>lunch and have a beer," right?

Ohh so true...But down here it is called ene not ese...Or the standerd "homes"
works.
I guess one might think it is odd for some goth "chick" to hang out with cholos
but that is what I went to school with. My cousins are into it. Their friends
have become like lil/older brothers to me. I try to
be friends with everyone...no matter what they are into..

>but it was about Echo Park gangbangers.
>

Female gangbangers....Ohh I must rent that movie again!

Shame on you Rain! This brings back thoughts of my ex who I am trying to
locate. Not really a cholo but hung out in that group in SD....We found each
other out when he needed a friend and I was looking for the same. <sigh>

Edvamp

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>I was thinking black, and "cup-shaped" with a pentagram
>printed on the side facing outwards, sort of like an unholy
>cervical shield thing.

The darn thing's got wings. And a tail. And a forked tongue?


Ever and Always
Edvamp


LizERd3

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>Sola wrote:
>>
>> John Everett <eve...@virtu.sar.usf.edu> wrote:
>>
>> <snip everything above poster has contributed to this thread, ever, from
>> its conception on into future days. >
>>
>> Meow.
>Meow.
>

Meow.


>>
>> Sola


>
>--
> "We look through a glass but darkly:
> What we see is more colored by our beliefs,
> than what we believe is colored by what we see."
> Be kind to your neighbors, even though they be transgenic chimerae.
>Whom thou'st vex'd waxeth wroth: Meow. http://www.clark.net/pub/klaatu/
>


Tarafablyn
"Does this black match?" Quinn Morgandorfer
"A guy's gotta have a best friend, even if he is kind of a rat." Wally Cleaver

Shameless site plugs: http://members.aol.com/lizerd3/lizhmpg.htm
http://www.bordershop.com/runes.htm

Nubianne Kthulah Black

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FatherHoly wrote:
>
> In article <379781CE...@klingons.com>, Nubianne Kthulah Black
> <kth...@klingons.com> writes:
>

> >I was thinking black, and "cup-shaped" with a pentagram
> >printed on the side facing outwards, sort of like an unholy
> >cervical shield thing.
>

> With rosary beads for a string?

That's a good one...::taking notes, and drawing overly
complicated diaphrag-I-mean-diagrams::

And maybe a little coffin at the end with little post-it
deposit slips a syringe, and a baggie? Oh, and if you buy
two, you get a free tube of glitter-gel lubricant...

Nubianne

Nubianne Kthulah Black

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Shadow Walker wrote:
>
> <another delurker here>
>
> Nubianne Kthulah Black wrote:
> >
> > TSM wrote:
> >
> > > Oooh, I bet you've got black tampons, too, don't you?
> >
> > Hey...Can I use that idea?
> >

> > I was thinking black, and "cup-shaped" with a pentagram
> > printed on the side facing outwards, sort of like an unholy
> > cervical shield thing.
>

> Real Goths (tm) don't wear tampons...

Oh...
(I know I'm walking into something, but it's that blonde in
a horror movie trapped in an Oprah-esque body that can't
resist, so...)
What *do* they wear for feminine hygeine?

~Nubianne

Nubianne Kthulah Black

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Edvamp wrote:
>
> >I was thinking black, and "cup-shaped" with a pentagram
> >printed on the side facing outwards, sort of like an unholy
> >cervical shield thing.
>

> The darn thing's got wings. And a tail. And a forked tongue?

::cupping hands over mouth...eyes bugging::
Hold on...I think we could do the forked tongue and tail
thing too...It'll be kinda crowded down there...
But since Real Goths (tm) don't wear tampons, would it be
okay to just wear the various strings?

Nubianne

Nubianne Kthulah Black

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Aidan Skinner wrote:
>
> On 22 Jul 1999 19:10:46 +1000, Nile Evil Bastard <nil...@iname.com> wrote:
>
> >I shit more goth things than you after my morning pot of espresso.
>
> Consume less iron.

Actually, Pepto Bismol works better for Gothy
feces...Granted, it means one has to consume something pink
in order to achieve the desired black dung...

Nubianne

Blackheart

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On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:10:33 +0300, Nubianne Kthulah Black
<kth...@klingons.com> wrote:

>
>
>Shadow Walker wrote:
>>
>> <another delurker here>
>>
>> Nubianne Kthulah Black wrote:
>> >
>> > TSM wrote:
>> >
>> > > Oooh, I bet you've got black tampons, too, don't you?
>> >
>> > Hey...Can I use that idea?
>> >

>> > I was thinking black, and "cup-shaped" with a pentagram
>> > printed on the side facing outwards, sort of like an unholy
>> > cervical shield thing.
>>

>> Real Goths (tm) don't wear tampons...
>
>Oh...
>(I know I'm walking into something, but it's that blonde in
>a horror movie trapped in an Oprah-esque body that can't
>resist, so...)
>What *do* they wear for feminine hygeine?
>

thier significant other....

Blackheart
---------------------------------------------------
Opinions stated are mine.... deal with it

mew mew mew

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>>> John Everett <eve...@virtu.sar.usf.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip everything above poster has contributed to this thread, ever, from
>>> its conception on into future days. >
>>>
>>> Meow.
>>Meow.
>>
>
>Meow.
>
>

meow

klaatu

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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Shadow Walker wrote:
>
> <another delurker here>
>
> Nubianne Kthulah Black wrote:
> >
> > TSM wrote:
> >
> > > Oooh, I bet you've got black tampons, too, don't you?
> >
> > Hey...Can I use that idea?
> >
> > I was thinking black, and "cup-shaped" with a pentagram
> > printed on the side facing outwards, sort of like an unholy
> > cervical shield thing.
>
> Real Goths (tm) don't wear tampons...

Why? Because they _want_ to attract vampyres.

>

-- yikes, I just really couldn't help myself. Really!

klaatu

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mew mew mew wrote:
>
> >>> John Everett <eve...@virtu.sar.usf.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> <snip everything above poster has contributed to this thread, ever, from
> >>> its conception on into future days. >
> >>>
> >>> Meow.
> >>Meow.
> >Meow.
> meow
Meow.

(you know you've done something unspeakable when a thread gets Meowed in
alt.gothic!)

klaatu

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FatherHoly wrote:
>
> In article <slrn7pdv6j.14t...@doomkitten.futuremac.com>,
> rainSp...@futuremac.com (Rain) writes:
>
> >I guess I have some fear of the vatos locos who live all around me. There's

> Viva la Raza.

Reconquista!

> Wow, cholo goths. What a concept. How would one wear a bandana
> like that AND have big hair?

Actually, there's a new bar in DC called Showboat, which has this huge
cavernous dance floor, and mostly they are a Caribbean Latino bar, lots of
seafood on the menu. Dos Equis on tap for $2.00 also. But they have a few
slow nights, and DC is kind of vacant for goth nites. So I sent one of the
DJs I know to contact them, I don't know how it turned out, but I was having
this really apocalyptic vision of the place turning into a sort of
Gothic/Salvadoran or Dark Cuban joint at least one night a week.

Is it _possible_ to have a latin-beat goth tune? someone should try.


<snips>
>
> Fr. P.P. Holy, OBL

Pierce

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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> I don't know how it turned out, but I was having
>this really apocalyptic vision of the place turning into a sort of
>Gothic/Salvadoran or Dark Cuban joint at least one night a week.

Or maybe they'd just bugger us sideways like what happened with Eclectica on
Cinco de Maia. Remember that? Nikki was fuming. I thought she might have it
out with him. Still, gothic-salsa...who knows.

Pierce
^v^ - o - ^v^
--- "I do not know - I am glorious being sad, posturing in tragedy, fitful as
the clouds be, melancholy-mad." --- William Rose Benet


Nubianne Kthulah Black

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Blackheart wrote:
>
> On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:10:33 +0300, Nubianne Kthulah Black
> <kth...@klingons.com> wrote:
> >What *do* they wear for feminine hygeine?
> >
>
> thier significant other....
>
> Blackheart

Hmmm...Belted or adhesive?

Nubianne

Unknown

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Jul 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/24/99
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On 22 Jul 1999 10:47:42 -0400, gru...@alumni.rpi.edu (JeanCroix)
wrote:

> ITYM "Klaatu Barada Nikto," HTH.
>
>
> But I doubt those words would work in this case...
>
>
>-JeanCroix, who says "Necktie! Nickel! Ngh-a*cough*cough*"

That reminds me, I recently saw a very old film by Sam & Bruce called
"Crimewave".

It was shot on an incredibly low budget but really shows the
Renaissance style in its formative days.

What really drew my attention to it, is that it was written by the
Coen brothers (Raising Arizona, Hudsucker Proxy, Fargo).

Great combination.

Ted's in it too.

--
Axel
Everything is true, even false things
- Malaclypse the Younger
<axel AT aracnet >dot< net>

Blackheart

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Jul 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/24/99
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On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:12:02 +0300, Nubianne Kthulah Black
<kth...@klingons.com> wrote:

>
>
>Blackheart wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:10:33 +0300, Nubianne Kthulah Black
>> <kth...@klingons.com> wrote:
>> >What *do* they wear for feminine hygeine?
>> >
>>
>> thier significant other....
>>
>> Blackheart
>
>Hmmm...Belted or adhesive?
>

which ever makes you feel "fresh"

The Red Queen

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Narnia wrote:

My apologies. I seem to have forgotten how to count.

Megan the Red Queen (skips 7 and 9 often)


Eldritch

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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, John Everett wrote:

> RoachOil wrote in message
> > >> John Everett wrote:
> >
> > Sports hunting isn't so bad if the stuff is being utilized. There's a
> > difference between killing a toadr, and killing a toad and eating it.
>
> I assure you, someone got to eat those toads, whether it was ants or the
> plants that their dust blew into.
>
> Nature, <sniff, sniff>, is beautiful that way.

how true! i do love the cyclic aspect of nature, especially the bit about
death feeding life. bloody lovely. i guess that takes care of my
squeamishness about cannibalism! i dont HAVE to eat the buggers to
justify it, i can just toss'em in the bay for the gators;)

funny how you blather xtian twabble for some posts and then come on all
pagan:) i'm really starting to think i know you......;)

eldritch

more amused than ive been in quite some time.....


Eldritch

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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, John Everett wrote:

> Lorelei Fiend wrote in message
> >
> > You are entitled to any opinion you wish, but they are all starting to
> sound
> > dreadfully redundant.
>
> By golly, you're right. I'm going to learn to just walk away from the
> maudlin, naive Romantic posts so I don't keep getting forced into being a
> one-note-samba Decadant counterpoint (at least until people get used to my
> idea of humor and don't get so stressed over a word play or two.)
>
> Besides, I have to fly out of town tomorrow for work and won't be back until
> Friday night (when I'm getting my heart ripped out in a modern Druid death
> ceremony at the Castle.)

and you didnt even invite me! you bastard!:)

>
> John
> (twat who spills his daddy batter??!! Was that a mixed metaphor or are you
> calling me a hermaphrodite?)

she could have just been using nicer wording to call you a semen dripping
gutter cunt.....:)

eldritch


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