The REAL meaning of that symbol we called ANKH
Darkamber
top, symbolized life & health, among other things.
Boy, was I wrong!
Words alone can't express how grateful I am to those nice christians who,
through their self-published magazine, gave me the REAL meaning of this
symbol:
First of all, it's not called an 'ANKH', it's called 'CRUX ANSATA', and
what it symbolizes is participation in sex-orgies among satanists.
(BTW, did you also know that the hippies Peace-symbol also is a satanic
symbol, i.e. an upside-down cross?)
And in this magazine it also said that: 'We KNOW Roleplaying games leads to
sexual abuse, suicide and murder'.
Well, praise the Lord, that I was informed about this...Being forewarned I
can now stop playing RPG in time, I hope.
Let's see, how much did they say it cost for a salvation again...
--Darkamber
Excuse me while I go and bang my head against the wall a couple of
times...
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Count Von Sexbat
>top, symbolized life & health, among other things.
>Boy, was I wrong!
>Words alone can't express how grateful I am to those nice christians who,
>through their self-published magazine, gave me the REAL meaning of this
>symbol:
>
>First of all, it's not called an 'ANKH', it's called 'CRUX ANSATA', and
>what it symbolizes is participation in sex-orgies among satanists.
>(BTW, did you also know that the hippies Peace-symbol also is a satanic
>symbol, i.e. an upside-down cross?)
I recently came across a very dark and mysterious cult led by a man who
claims to be the mouth piece of God. He claims that he has a letter which
proves it, so it must be true. They ritually eat human flesh and drink human
blood. Then they go around being self-righteous.
There are lots of different franchises of this cult - each claims it is
the 'true' cult. They have killed many millions of people in order to
prove their devotion to the same God.
Perhaps you should draw the attention of the magazine's publishers to this
greater threat?
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: Here I though this nice-looking symbol, you know this cross with a loop on
: top, symbolized life & health, among other things.
: Boy, was I wrong!
: Words alone can't express how grateful I am to those nice christians who,
: through their self-published magazine, gave me the REAL meaning of this
: symbol:
: First of all, it's not called an 'ANKH', it's called 'CRUX ANSATA', and
: what it symbolizes is participation in sex-orgies among satanists.
: (BTW, did you also know that the hippies Peace-symbol also is a satanic
: symbol, i.e. an upside-down cross?)
Darkamber,
I think someone's been pulling your leg!
The ankh is an ancient Egyptian symbol. It was called an ankh long
before it was called a crux ansata.
But I'm sure you're aware of the leg pulling.
I'm not altogther that comfortable with Satanism, but i can't stand those
wretched reactionary fundementalists who are ready to find Satan behind
any symbol not deemed entirely Xtian.
Next time someone tries to pull that one on you show them the Egyptian
Book of The Dead, translated by Budge. There will probably be a picture
of an ankh on one of the pages, taken from and Egyptian frieze. How can
something pre-xtian be satanic?
Maria Montgomery
ma...@netcom.com
Josh
>Darkamber (e.b.st...@admin.uio.no) wrote:
>: Words alone can't express how grateful I am to those nice christians who,
>: through their self-published magazine, gave me the REAL meaning of this
Do I get points for not knowing what this is? :) Darkamber, think we could
(or I could, at any rate..) persuade you to type up the text of that
article?
>: First of all, it's not called an 'ANKH', it's called 'CRUX ANSATA', and
>: what it symbolizes is participation in sex-orgies among satanists.
>
>before it was called a crux ansata.
>
>wretched reactionary fundementalists who are ready to find Satan behind
>any symbol not deemed entirely Xtian.
>
>Next time someone tries to pull that one on you show them the Egyptian
>Book of The Dead, translated by Budge. There will probably be a picture
>of an ankh on one of the pages, taken from and Egyptian frieze. How can
>something pre-xtian be satanic?
Seriously, however.. pagan religions and the like have been around WAY
before the Egyptian times, even, and I believe the Xian church has branded
pagans as satanists..
But I agree. The Ankh was not a symbol designed with the intent to use
against the church. Without Christianity, there is no Satanism, for the
two are hand in hand. (You've got to believe in God to believe in the
Devil..) However, as is the case with MANY symbols.. other groups and
factions took it and used it for their own means.. most likely where
the Crux Ansata part comes from. Hitler didn't think up that swastika
himself, hmm? Took a good symbol.. flipped it around.. turned it into
the embodiment of evil and hatred for most of us...
One thing I -WOULD- like to know, however, is the origin of that little
ankh thing that comes with the Vampire: The Masquerade LARP box, also
illustrated on the Book of the Damned (WW supplement).. The top end of
the cross extended into the loop, and the ends kind of flowered out..
>
>Maria Montgomery
>ma...@netcom.com
>
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>
> Let's see, how much did they say it cost for a salvation again...
> --Darkamber
Oh, say about $60000000000000 (6 bizillion dollars) and a box of Girl Guide cookies.
Raven.
Killer of Trees
> Here I though this nice-looking symbol, you know this cross with a loop on
> top, symbolized life & health, among other things.
> Boy, was I wrong!
> Words alone can't express how grateful I am to those nice christians who,
> through their self-published magazine, gave me the REAL meaning of this
> symbol:
>
> First of all, it's not called an 'ANKH', it's called 'CRUX ANSATA', and
> what it symbolizes is participation in sex-orgies among satanists.
Which should come as a big surpise to some eastern european christian
sects, for whom the Anhk *is* the cross, and retains all the usual
christian symbology.
It came as a big surpise when I found this out. I had been wearing an
ankh in an attempt to AVOID religious symbols (the big thing in the
goth scene at the time were large ornate crosses and rosaries).
Religion makes me squirm. Despite how cool it looks, I don't feel
comfortable sporting religious imagery I don't believe in.
Then an elderly russian man commented on my ankh in the subway one day
and explained it all to me when I gave him a befuddled look.
Soon after that I gave in and started wearing crosses. I suppose if
they're gaudy enough I won't be taken for a catholic. :)
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E J Barker
>Here I though this nice-looking symbol, you know this cross with a loop on
>top, symbolized life & health, among other things.
Hey, have you never taken a proper look at the thing?
It's an ancient fertility symbol. Even if I didn't know
that, I suppose I could have guessed. It *is* representing
exactly what it looks like... an erect penis and a vagina...
love
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Or you could just send me $10 and call it quits...
mike & GOD
Orion Wilson
>Hey, have you never taken a proper look at the thing?
>It's an ancient fertility symbol. Even if I didn't know
>that, I suppose I could have guessed. It *is* representing
>exactly what it looks like... an erect penis and a vagina...
.. yeah, i can see that sure, but What's the cross bar part then ?
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I like the crossbar part cuz it rreminds me of a cross..
Sex on the cross@! Sex on the Cross ! nya nyaa nyaanyaa!
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Steve Cook
: >Hey, have you never taken a proper look at the thing?
: >It's an ancient fertility symbol. Even if I didn't know
: >that, I suppose I could have guessed. It *is* representing
: >exactly what it looks like... an erect penis and a vagina...
By gum, that's what the lovely religious fanatics at Chick Comics must
have been thinking when they put out Bewitched. I was grateful to be
informed that the ankh I was wearing meant I had pledged my soul to
"Ra (Lucifer)" and meant I participated in orgies.
-- Steve
wingnut
e.b.st...@admin.uio.no (Darkamber) quoth:
> (BTW, did you also know that the hippies Peace-symbol also is a satanic
> symbol, i.e. an upside-down cross?)
> --Darkamber
survey says?! bzzzt! wrong! we're sorry folks... the "hippies" peace
symbol is actually a combination of the semaphore representations of the
letters N and D, standing for Nuclear Disarmament, and came into widespread
use in britain in the 1950's during various anti-nukes protests... it has
never been used (at least by hippies/peace-niks or anyone else i've ever
encountered) as a satanic symbol, or as a broken or upside-down cross.
thanks for playing anyways!
-wingnut
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E J Barker
>>It's an ancient fertility symbol. Even if I didn't know
>>that, I suppose I could have guessed. It *is* representing
>>exactly what it looks like... an erect penis and a vagina...
>
> .. yeah, i can see that sure, but What's the cross bar part then ?
>
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Count Von Sexbat
In fact the game show host has it wrong. If yo take the Nuclear Disarmament
symbol out of the circle and invert it you *do* have a Norse rune which
represented 'peace'.
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>Book of The Dead, translated by Budge. There will probably be a picture
>of an ankh on one of the pages, taken from and Egyptian frieze. How can
>something pre-xtian be satanic?
>
>Maria Montgomery
>ma...@netcom.com
Just to be picky, it is real easy to be pre-xtian and satanic
... assuming (of course) that you buy into the christian religion in
general (not just the weirdo subcults). As long as you don't get
picky and distinguish between Satan and Lucifer (theologically
arguable), then "Satan" has been around since he took the big nosedive
out of Heaven, which was before the creation of the world. So Satan
could have produced artefacts in the world from Day One.
But hey, these same people are the kind who tried to condemn the
(American) Girl Scouts as Satanic... after all, they use an Ankh on
their badge of Knowledge, and the Rainbow somewhere else. Though it
still puzzles me how they got the Rainbow to be Satanic, since
according to the Old Testament it is a symbol of the convenant between
God and Man.
have fun, but be warned, the Bible can be used to prove just about any
point...
john
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John Dunkelberg
Bzzzt! You're all wrong. It's a B52 bomber!
BzzzzzT! It's a stylized dove!
BzzzzzzzT! It's a Mercedes symbol... okay, so it's not that...
the answer is so lost in urban legend the actual roots are not
recoverable...
Erik Henriksen
well, maybe... but in any case that still supports my assertion that the
peace symbol is NOT an upside-down or broken cross, as i've had many
christian folk tell me. that they see it that way is just an attempt to
defile the peace movement.
-wingnut
cnawal...@hamp.hampshire.edu
j...@ghost.cse.nau.edu (Josh) writes:
>In article <mariaCH...@netcom.com> ma...@netcom.com (Maria Montgomery) writes:
>>Darkamber (e.b.st...@admin.uio.no) wrote:
>>: First of all, it's not called an 'ANKH', it's called 'CRUX ANSATA', and
>>: what it symbolizes is participation in sex-orgies among satanists.
>>
>>The ankh is an ancient Egyptian symbol. It was called an ankh long
>>before it was called a crux ansata.
>>
>>I'm not altogther that comfortable with Satanism, but i can't stand those
>>wretched reactionary fundementalists who are ready to find Satan behind
>>any symbol not deemed entirely Xtian.
>> How can something pre-xtian be satanic?
> Without Christianity, there is no Satanism, for the
>two are hand in hand. (You've got to believe in God to believe in the
>Devil..)
ARGH... i was hoping not to get into a religious debate/discussion so
early on in my being here, but i just couldn't pass it up!
Christianity and Satanism do not go hand-in-hand, at least in the way
the poster intended it. Satan existed before Christ, and thus, of
course, before Christianity. Satan simply means "adversary" - of YHWH,
that is. Satan is not a being per se, but a force which is manifested
when humans oppose their nature(one of peace, love, and all that stuff).
So, Satan is a force. Christianity is a made-up religion. So they
really can't go hand-in-hand. The connection that i alluded to before
is that, by my definition, much of the action of Christianity is actually
Satanic. Lying, forcing religious views down the throats of others, mass
murder, presenting forth false gods, twisting the words of the Prophets,
etc. etc. etc.
This is, of course, all open for debate and i am in no way trying to
piss anyone off or trying to mock their beliefs!!!
>One thing I -WOULD- like to know, however, is the origin of that little
>ankh thing that comes with the Vampire: The Masquerade LARP box, also
>illustrated on the Book of the Damned (WW supplement)..
perhaps it's just stylized?
PEACE... and, um, hi folks. I'm new here :)
kxwzzt
> Bzzzt! You're all wrong. It's a B52 bomber!
> BzzzzzT! It's a stylized dove!
> BzzzzzzzT! It's a Mercedes symbol... okay, so it's not that...
Bzzzt, BzzzzzT, and BzzzzzzzT ! ! ! sorry all wrong
it was created by some drunk, stoned and in many other ways fucked up dude, who while sorting all his matches by height, so as to better determine which was most appropriate to light up his next joint, happened to think of elepahants and uses thereof in ancient times, especially as beasts of burden and machines of war. these thoughts of violence brought him to the logical conclusion that properly sorted matches were a sinister plot of the pentagon and thus he toosed them all in the air and used the first
one that seemed apprropraite to light up. it only took a few moments for him to realize that he had just done something extraordinary, and only a few more to notice the interesting parttern that the m,atchsticks had landed in. he was impressed. it was a sign. guess what, it was that funny peace symbol.
kxwzzt
why are you looking at my .sig ?
J.B. Graham
>early on in my being here, but i just couldn't pass it up!
>Christianity and Satanism do not go hand-in-hand, at least in the way
>the poster intended it. Satan existed before Christ, and thus, of
>course, before Christianity. Satan simply means "adversary" - of YHWH,
>that is. Satan is not a being per se, but a force which is manifested
>when humans oppose their nature(one of peace, love, and all that stuff).
>So, Satan is a force. Christianity is a made-up religion. So they
>really can't go hand-in-hand. The connection that i alluded to before
>is that, by my definition, much of the action of Christianity is actually
>Satanic. Lying, forcing religious views down the throats of others, mass
>murder, presenting forth false gods, twisting the words of the Prophets,
>etc. etc. etc.
people in its illustrious history. Take the wonderful convertive motives
of Cortez and his merry band of conquistadors. (Did you know there were 14
million people living in the middle bit of Mexico before he got there?
There are about 2 million Aztec/Mayan people left now.) That is fact.
However, assuming belief in an omnipotent power (not necessarily the
Christian God), it could be said that Christians have twisted the original
intent of faith through their ghastly misdeeds over the ages. This is by
no means an uncommon thing. Those poor Aztec people weren't angels
themselves; they demanded yearly human tribute for sacrifice from
outlying conquered districts and killed 40,000 people to CELEBRATE
Montezuma II's coronation.
The problem is not religion, but the way it inspires persecution
and is open to corruption for political or power purposes.
And yes, Satan was around far before christianity, if you follow
the beliefs; then again, so was God. I had an amusing conversation with a
black magic paganist once who told me flatly that his Gods had been around
far before any of this Christian bull. Well, be you Muslim, Christian or
Jewish, your God, according to dogma, created everything to begin with.
Even if one is atheistic, it is important to note that religion
was originally a method of social organization; it dictated morals and
no-nonsense approaches to life so that things did not erupt into chaos.
The Koran is a law code as well as a religious document, and one can look
at the Ten Commandments as early early Jewish rules to live by.
Sorry for the lecture. I'll try to stay off this topic from now on.
--Jess
skull23
No, actually, it represents "Protection". It's Celtic, I believe. The Rune
of Protection.
skull23
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Count Von Sexbat
>>symbol out of the circle and invert it you *do* have a Norse rune which
>>represented 'peace'.
>
>No, actually, it represents "Protection". It's Celtic, I believe. The Rune
>of Protection.
You are, of course, quite right. A slight imbalance of vodka (I'll be
claiming I used to be in the Mission fan club next.)
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>the beliefs; then again, so was God. I had an amusing conversation with a
>black magic paganist once who told me flatly that his Gods had been around
>far before any of this Christian bull. Well, be you Muslim, Christian or
>Jewish, your God, according to dogma, created everything to begin with.
Well, even if everyone thinks that their gods created everything, so gods
were around before ohters. Since all civilizations pretty much make up
their gods, some make them up before others.
Also, there are certain Canaanite gods that were the prototypes for the
Jewish yahweh who become the Christain god. If only I had my Bible and my
notes from my Religious Studies class... Anyway yahweh is based on the
gods El and Baal (maybe not Baal, can't remember right now, it's who ever
was the god of thunder and the war god.) Anyway, I really don't know what
my point is except that some religions and gods were around way before others.
Aimee (I'm thinkg, I'm thinking)
Corey A. Geving
Isn't that the symbol and tool of all the ancient Egyptian gods...
Thoth, Set, Osiris, all those neat guys who brooded over North Africa
for hundreds of glorious years...
Or whatever.....
Vlad
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>Well, even if everyone thinks that their gods created everything, so gods
>were around before ohters. Since all civilizations pretty much make up
>their gods, some make them up before others.
> Also, there are certain Canaanite gods that were the prototypes for the
>Jewish yahweh who become the Christain god. If only I had my Bible and my
>notes from my Religious Studies class... Anyway yahweh is based on the
>gods El and Baal (maybe not Baal, can't remember right now, it's who ever
>was the god of thunder and the war god.) Anyway, I really don't know what
>my point is except that some religions and gods were around way before others.
>Aimee (I'm thinkg, I'm thinking)
Okay. point taken. (by the way: I tend to be completely noncommital about
religious biases; therefore I was not particularly defending Christianity
earlier, although some of the propaganda I listened to from ages 4 to 16
when I was TAKEN to church every week may interfere.)
Maybe someone who knows more about the alternate-religion side of things
than I could inform me and maybe others on origins and beliefs associated
with things pagan. Wicca is not for me, I have decided that on a purely
personal basis; however, i am inquisitive about other belief choices. Fire
away if you feel like it.
--Jess
David Storm Carson
>
>The Ankh...? Celtic.....?
>
>Isn't that the symbol and tool of all the ancient Egyptian gods...
>
>Thoth, Set, Osiris, all those neat guys who brooded over North Africa
>for hundreds of glorious years...
No, it's the "peace" symbol that they're saying is a celtic rune.
Me, I thought it was a stylized view from above of two people
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egyptian symbol. It symbolized life and fertility. Symbolicaly
representing both the male and female sexual organs. -Chaos
Psychonaut
life, but eternal life as well. Probably a good symbol to wear as you sail down
the river to the judgement of Anubis.
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Laura Schantz
> Here I though this nice-looking symbol, you know this cross with a loop on
> top, symbolized life & health, among other things.
> Words alone can't express how grateful I am to those nice christians who,
> through their self-published magazine, gave me the REAL meaning of this
> symbol:
>
> what it symbolizes is participation in sex-orgies among satanists.
> symbol, i.e. an upside-down cross?)
>
> sexual abuse, suicide and murder'.
> Well, praise the Lord, that I was informed about this...Being forewarned I
> can now stop playing RPG in time, I hope.
> Let's see, how much did they say it cost for a salvation again...
>
>
>
> --Darkamber
> times...
>
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> "...'till the moon turns crimson, and the night never ends;
> and the heaven cries blood as the Phoenix ascends..."
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Oh sweet Bast, I thought these kinds of urban legends died out with the Satanic Panic in the 90s. I remember being told why and how the yin-yang, the ankh, the peace sign, and even the biological symbol for female, were all evil Satanic symbols.
Our home phone number at the time happened to have three 6's in a row. I was traumatized and was absolutely terrified we wouldn't be able to go to Heaven because of that sort of baseless dirt-flinging.
OP, do yourself a favor and google the phrase "Witch Hunts - Exposing the Lies." A police officer with the username Kerr Cuchulain spent many years on one website simply exposing frauds who claimed to speak for Jesus but were actually sowing these sorts of wild tales.
Laura Schantz
> Here I though this nice-looking symbol, you know this cross with a loop on
> top, symbolized life & health, among other things.
> Boy, was I wrong!
> Words alone can't express how grateful I am to those nice christians who,
> through their self-published magazine, gave me the REAL meaning of this
> symbol:
>
> First of all, it's not called an 'ANKH', it's called 'CRUX ANSATA', and
> what it symbolizes is participation in sex-orgies among satanists.
> (BTW, did you also know that the hippies Peace-symbol also is a satanic
> symbol, i.e. an upside-down cross?)
>
> And in this magazine it also said that: 'We KNOW Roleplaying games leads to
> sexual abuse, suicide and murder'.
> Well, praise the Lord, that I was informed about this...Being forewarned I
> can now stop playing RPG in time, I hope.
>
> Let's see, how much did they say it cost for a salvation again...
>
>
>
> --Darkamber
> Excuse me while I go and bang my head against the wall a couple of
> times...
>
>
> *******************************************************************
> "...'till the moon turns crimson, and the night never ends;
> and the heaven cries blood as the Phoenix ascends..."
> *******************************************************************
I know the regulars here already know that, but I feel I should post this just in case any impressionable youngsters happen upon this page, to help inoculate against Weird Lies About Satanism.
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