indianapolis...
geekthefreak
have been out of the city for the past 2 (until now)... i have lost all
of my friends and acquaintances in the city... and am, obviously, so far
out of "the loop" or "the scene" that i haven't a clue what there is to
do in town... so, if anyone lives in indianapolis or knows the current
city... please, feel free to respond to this post...
eraserhead
Michael Cornn
geekthefreak <geekth...@eccentric.com> wrote in message
news:3897AA...@eccentric.com...
Scene? We have a "scene" here? You mean besides the yuppie pop-rock
scene?
Best place for gothy-type people in Indy, IMHO, is the Melody Inn at
38th and Illinois. They play gothic/industrial/punk/whatever else they feel
like on Saturday nights and gothic/industrial on Sunday nights. The people
that put it on have a Web site at www.alyda.com/bog.html Check it out if you
get a chance. Later,
Michael
Science Lesson for the Day:
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.
Keith 13
> i have lived the life, basically, as a recluse for the past 7 years
>and have been out of the city for the past 2 (until now)...
NB: almost all midwest.goths do this as they hit their 20s and realize
that mostly what surrounds them is a fashion show rather than solid
thought - "I'm a non-conformist, just like all of my friends!" Death to
AGF! Long live the New Flesh!
> i have lost all of my friends and acquaintances in the city...
Indy is the center of the Hazy Hoosier Hellhole. It's like "Hotel
California" - you can check out any time you like, but you can never
leave. Slowly but surely, your soul gets pulled back into the vortex
which swirls out of UniGov and into the apathetic maw of the
metropolitan burb.clave.
Surviving as a goth here means taking lots of being ignored. Go back to
bed - and try to get a few prostitutes in there with you (Herron flavor,
not E. Washington mind you): it just feels better.
If you feel you *must* go out: hit www.alyda.com. Alyda may be a legend
in her own mind, but she's pretty hup once you get beer in her hand
instead of jack+coke. The BOGglings are pretty cool, too. The party info
line is (317) 335-4717.
If alcohol isn't your thing or you're underage: Lockerbie Coffeehouse.
Young goths hang out and drink far too many "jeremy/keith strength" cafe
mochas while listening to P.Murphy, Cure, Joy Div., Swans, etc. Every
other frday the BOGglings put on Bedlam (all ages goth night) there in
the smoking lounge (cloves welcomed with wide open arms!). Purple
Underground occasionally puts on goth flavored shows, such as the one
coming up on the 11th with Saraswati (math-rock, but still pretty cool
to we rivetheadz), Dragon Tears Descending[sp?], and erotic performance
art by Crimson Mane.
Unfortunately, the scene here tends to be rather small and close-knit.
But come up to just about anyone at a show who looks to be of legal age
and you'll find cool folks. That's why I stay here...
--
love, keith
[the goth formerly known as thirteen]
ODGB
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Before you buy.
geekthefreak
> > i have lived the life, basically, as a recluse for the past 7 years
> >and have been out of the city for the past 2 (until now)...
>
> NB: almost all midwest.goths do this as they hit their 20s and realize
> that mostly what surrounds them is a fashion show rather than solid
> thought - "I'm a non-conformist, just like all of my friends!" Death to
> AGF! Long live the New Flesh!
exactly... after the "i'm 21 and legal" phase lost it's hype, i slumped
off into the darkness of an alley... never to return...
> > i have lost all of my friends and acquaintances in the city...
>
> Indy is the center of the Hazy Hoosier Hellhole. It's like "Hotel
> California" - you can check out any time you like, but you can never
> leave. Slowly but surely, your soul gets pulled back into the vortex
> which swirls out of UniGov and into the apathetic maw of the
> metropolitan burb.clave.
again, exactly... that has been the running joke amongst us hoosier
"freaks" for more than a decade...
> Surviving as a goth here means taking lots of being ignored. Go back to
> bed - and try to get a few prostitutes in there with you (Herron flavor,
> not E. Washington mind you): it just feels better.
i wouldn't mind going back to bed with a nice woman (any takers???
didn't think so)... which brings us to my little "problem"... i do not
have the money for prostitutes and i have just been released from a 4
year long relationship... indy has made me enjoy being "tied down"
because of all that you have mentioned above...
> If you feel you *must* go out: hit www.alyda.com. Alyda may be a legend
> in her own mind, but she's pretty hup once you get beer in her hand
> instead of jack+coke. The BOGglings are pretty cool, too. The party info
> line is (317) 335-4717.
i would at the very least like to find someone to re-hibernate with...
so, to do this... i, unfortunately, hit "the scene"... again...
> If alcohol isn't your thing or you're underage: Lockerbie Coffeehouse.
> Young goths hang out and drink far too many "jeremy/keith strength" cafe
> mochas while listening to P.Murphy, Cure, Joy Div., Swans, etc. Every
> other frday the BOGglings put on Bedlam (all ages goth night) there in
> the smoking lounge (cloves welcomed with wide open arms!). Purple
> Underground occasionally puts on goth flavored shows, such as the one
> coming up on the 11th with Saraswati (math-rock, but still pretty cool
> to we rivetheadz), Dragon Tears Descending[sp?], and erotic performance
> art by Crimson Mane.
i am an "elder-goth" at 29... and was use a heavy drinker... regardless,
i do not mind having a nice drink from time to time... certainly, if i
am to be back out "there"... i will probably need a couple of drinks in
me...
but, i will try these suggestions...
thank you...
by the way, your last name doesn't happen to start with a B and used to
date a woman whose first name started with a D that i happened to
introduce you to???
if so, you know exactly who i am (and would like for us to meet so as
you could hold my hand during this little step of mine)... if not,
thanks anyway...
michael
geekthefreak
> Scene? We have a "scene" here? You mean besides the yuppie pop-rock
> scene?
i know, i know... it's a stretch, i'm sure... but, i didn't want to come
off like a complete asshole or anything...
> Best place for gothy-type people in Indy, IMHO, is the Melody Inn at
> 38th and Illinois. They play gothic/industrial/punk/whatever else they feel
> like on Saturday nights and gothic/industrial on Sunday nights. The people
> that put it on have a Web site at www.alyda.com/bog.html Check it out if you
> get a chance. Later,
> Michael
thank you for the suggestions...
i will take them...
what, would you say, is THE (so to speak) night to be out (saturday or
sunday)??? i have seen the BOG sites... and it seems that the only
reliable night in indy is sunday at the melody inn...
michael
geekthefreak
> so, to do this... i, unfortunately, hit "the scene"... again...
that's "i, unfortunately, MUST hit "the scene"... again..."
> i am an "elder-goth" at 29... and was use a heavy drinker...
that's "and I USED TO BE a heavy drinker..."
i am writing as though i am a heavy drinker now...
(if someone is reading this wondering why i am proofing my own post...
it's an ocd thing)
stalker
Keith 13
> by the way, your last name doesn't happen to start with a B and used
> to date a woman whose first name started with a D that i happened to
> introduce you to???
{which rhymes with T and that stands for Trouble right here in Fish Kill
City...}
Unfortunately, this is so.
And now the Monon is no longer a place to finish off an overpriced
bottle of Australian wine, but instead a place to stalk yuppies as they
jog along, crunching through the slushy black snow on Westfield Blvd...
> > > i have lost all of my friends and acquaintances in the city...
> > Indy is the center of the Hazy Hoosier Hellhole. It's like "Hotel
> > California" - you can check out any time you like, but you can never
> > leave...
> again, exactly... that has been the running joke amongst us hoosier
> "freaks" for more than a decade...
<aside> Mykal, Ismene, & other locals who know Me but only recently:
told ya so - it never... goes... away... (death to agf, long live the
new flesh). The only scene that there ever has been here has been that
which we have made for ourselves out of sheer boredom - which is the
same for anywhere else...
{too sober to have this rant - must get Amaretto Milkshake}
--
love, keith
[the goth formerly known as thirteen]
Keith 13
to NotMail, so...
(317) 314-1781
[or 888-excite2, code 317-999-0669, but the loacl number works better]
As if it were a secret to begin with.
--
love, keith
[the goth formerly known as thirteen]
ODGB
Michael Cornn
> what, would you say, is THE (so to speak) night to be out (saturday or
> sunday)??? i have seen the BOG sites... and it seems that the only
> reliable night in indy is sunday at the melody inn...
>
> michael
The Sunday night event has been going on for just over a year. The music
is always great. Sometimes the place is packed; sometimes it's dead. (Note
that the Melody Inn is a pretty tiny place, so "packed" is a relative term).
The DJs play a lot of industrial, some goth, and a little techno every now
and then. The people are always fun and tend to be a close-knit bunch.
The Saturday night dance thing starts tomorrow night, so no one really
knows how good it will be. The people who put it on are comparing it to the
"Resurrection" night at the Patio in Broad Ripple from a few years back
(same DJ). The music should be a little more varied than the Sunday night
gig. Drop in and see what it's like.
Michael
"Probably how he would have wanted to go, just out like that. Me, I want to
be squashed by a bull elephant at the moment of orgasm while sandwiched
ecstatically between two or three agile greased Nubian virgins."
-Niel Gaiman, Death: The Time of Your Life
Miss Sarah A. Stierch
> exactly... after the "i'm 21 and legal" phase lost it's hype, i slumped
> off into the darkness of an alley... never to return...
>
I"m from Indianapolis. The Goth scene here is horrible, IMHO. Just like
many cities, it features a lot of snobby gamers (and sure, I've done my fair
share..) and art kids who just jump around with make up on and have a boring
time.
Then again, I avoid the "clubs," here. I'm under 21, I've dabbled in it
before, and I don't know anyone who's involved in it.
And the fact that I don't wear all black, makes me uncool, it seems.
*smirk, chuckle*
(I'm more like, the long lost sister of the Birthday Party..)
> > Indy is the center of the Hazy Hoosier Hellhole. It's like "Hotel
> > California" - you can check out any time you like, but you can never
> > leave. Slowly but surely, your soul gets pulled back into the vortex
> > which swirls out of UniGov and into the apathetic maw of the
> > metropolitan burb.clave.
>
Totally true. Everyone I know who has left, comes back. I used to work
at Borders on the north side (the one next to the Fashion Mall) in music, and
Marlene something..I forgot her last name, a psychic, lectured there. And she
said (it made me chuckle) that there is a force that draws people back to
Indiana, because we are the heartland, and when Mother Nature is out causing
floods, tornados, hurricanes, snow storms, earthquakes, they won't be hitting
Indiana - so we are a "safe hold."
Go figure. I just want to get the hell out of here, and die somewhere
other then the Hoosier State.
> again, exactly... that has been the running joke amongst us hoosier
> "freaks" for more than a decade...
>
Yup.
> Surviving as a goth here means taking lots of being ignored. Go back to
> > bed - and try to get a few prostitutes in there with you (Herron flavor,
> > not E. Washington mind you): it just feels better.
>
Haha. Herron Art girls! Kick ass! That was funny..my sister went to
Herron, majored in Photography, and luckily, she was *not* one of those
girls..I don't think.
I was going to go to Herron, but I"m changing my mind, cause half the
people who go there make me sick.
"I'm an artist." "No, you aren't." "Yes, I am, I do neo-impressionism,"
*eyeroll* "Oh, and I"m in a band."
> i wouldn't mind going back to bed with a nice woman (any takers???
> didn't think so)... which brings us to my little "problem"... i do not
> have the money for prostitutes and i have just been released from a 4
> year long relationship... indy has made me enjoy being "tied down"
> because of all that you have mentioned above...
>
Well, sometimes there are good girls that show up (like me). Of course,
I'm a virgin, and not into the whole "sleeping around," scene, though I have
had my fair share of boyfriends (and whatever else). (I know..I share too
much information, but who cares).
We exist, it just takes some looking. Look for us in bookstores and music
stores, antique malls, Italian and Japanese resturants, and Future Shock
buying the affordable sale shoes (that's all that I can afford) that are
platforms.
We exist. Well, I do. Hehe..
> i would at the very least like to find someone to re-hibernate with...
> so, to do this... i, unfortunately, hit "the scene"... again...
>
Geeze, lucky you. THe last thing, "goth" I went too, was some miserable
night at the Razor, and I had a sip of a milkshake a girl friend of mine had,
and i almost passed out on the "dnace floor" after hearing the Crow soundtrack
one more time....
> > If alcohol isn't your thing or you're underage: Lockerbie Coffeehouse.
> > Young goths hang out and drink far too many "jeremy/keith strength" cafe
> > mochas while listening to P.Murphy, Cure, Joy Div., Swans, etc. Every
> > other frday the BOGglings put on Bedlam (all ages goth night) there in
> > the smoking lounge (cloves welcomed with wide open arms!). Purple
>
Do these thing feel uncomfortable? I mean, if I was to go, and having
never met most of those people, not wear all black, and be all spooky. (I
mean I have dark brown rod stewart rock star hair and I wear cowboy boots and
blue jeans)
I'm one who usually doesn't give a fuck. I"ll get loud nad obnoxious,
but, Id on't have many friends who would go with me, and when I'm alone, I get
sort of timid and shy, and bored.
What are your thoughts and feeligns on these things (I'm underage, perfer
liqour, and I"ve gotten into the Melody before, but I'm too paranoid for
bars..)?
> > Underground occasionally puts on goth flavored shows, such as the one
> > coming up on the 11th with Saraswati (math-rock, but still pretty cool
> > to we rivetheadz), Dragon Tears Descending[sp?], and erotic performance
> > art by Crimson Mane.
>
Saraswati is great, (I'm a slight rivetcowgirl myself). Not that I'm just
friends with the guys in the band, but, they are awesome. Emotional powerful
rockn'roll. They have webpage....damnit, I forgot it.
http://www.bewley.net/~chandler and you should find a link to it on Matt's
(the bassist and singers) webpage.
They kick arse. IMHO (And I like Shellac, Big Black, mathy shit..)
> i am an "elder-goth" at 29... and was use a heavy drinker... regardless,
> i do not mind having a nice drink from time to time... certainly, if i
> am to be back out "there"... i will probably need a couple of drinks in
> me...
>
Who are ya? Do you know a Nick? Talll lanky guy, black hair (duh),
glasses. Lives around the Broad Ripple area. Has a long German last name?
Loves sthe Misfits, Fugazi and some of that goth stuff....
--
Miss Sarah A. Stierch
-----
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The Evil Chemist
> We exist. Well, I do. Hehe..
"I exist, because I always exists"
jv
Keith 13
> geekthefreak wrote:
> > exactly... after the "i'm 21 and legal" phase lost it's hype, i
> > slumped off into the darkness of an alley... never to return...
>Then again, I avoid the "clubs," here. I'm under 21, I've dabbled in it
>before, and I don't know anyone who's involved in it.
>
>And the fact that I don't wear all black, makes me uncool, it seems.
Under orders from My Empress (when I was trying to show Alyda what
dominance and submission actually are), I wound up wearing brown to a
goth show. Get over it - it's yr mind that matters, not yr closet.
{Death to AGF. Long live the New Flesh.}
> > > Indy is the center of the Hazy Hoosier Hellhole...
>Totally true. Everyone I know who has left, comes back. I used to work
>at Borders on the north side (the one next to the Fashion Mall) in
>music, and Marlene something...I forgot her last name, a psychic,
>lectured there. And she said (it made me chuckle) that there is a force
>that draws people back to Indiana, because we are the heartland, and
>when Mother Nature is out causing floods, tornados, hurricanes, snow
>storms, earthquakes, they won't be hitting Indiana - so we are a "safe
>hold."
Marilene Isaacs. Formerly Marilene Isaacs Kaufmann. Very cool lady. She
made a brief appearance at the Melody the night after Xmas when they had
the "mentalist" performing... And she was the one who inspired the
infamous "amaretto milkshake" recipe at the Lockerbie.
We've been known to get into arguments on whether the "gravity well" is
innately beneficial (her pt.) or natural, neutral and arbitrary (my pt.)
in public... 'nuff said.
>We exist, it just takes some looking...
Or you don't go out in public at all (Mykal). Or you self.identify with
another group of folk (Vargr). Or you're too busy at work and with The
Dame to just "hang out" randomly (me). Or you'd rather tweak on the synth
in your bedroom for days on end (geekthefreak).
>>>Every other frday the BOGglings put on Bedlam (all ages goth night)
>>>there in the smoking lounge (cloves welcomed with wide open arms!).
NB: next Bedlam - 2/19/00. DJ Incubus will *not* be spinning (yay! less
Manson! more Ministry!)
>Do these thing feel uncomfortable? I mean, if I was to go, and having
>never met most of those people, not wear all black, and be all spooky.
It's a coffeehouse, m'dear. The Dame showed up at the last Bedlam wearing
blue jeans and a blue argyle sweater and she out goth'd half the place
(Ismene being the exception that proves the rule). I wore a pair of black
BDUs, GI boots & a black t-shirt - much more rivethead than goth but...
Vanilla/Mundane folk come in and out getting latte's and coffee
constantly. The bar across the street doesn't serve any non-alcoholic
coffee drinks anymore, so we get some of them coming over.
And it's LOCKERBIE, ferchrissakes...
>> i am an "elder-goth" at 29... and was a heavy drinker...
...and keith thirteen is his evil twin. Michael & I used to be sort-of
drinking buddies... BTW - Vargr now qualifies as truly "elder-goth," no
matter how much he says "rivethead"... Make sure to wish him happy b'day
next time you see him out.
>Who are ya? Do you know a Nick? Talll lanky guy, black hair (duh),
>glasses. Lives around the Broad Ripple area. Has a long German last
>name? Loves sthe Misfits, Fugazi and some of that goth stuff....
Everybody knows Nick...
I'm planning a "Welcome Back To Hell" party for Michael before the show
at the PU this friday. The indy.net.goths are all invited (quite
cordially) - Lockerbie Coffeehouse (630 E. Michigan - College &
Michigan), 7pm-ish. I'll provide the Caffeine-Free Diet Mountain Dew...
Plz pass word along to all who might wish to join us...
Wow. Damn. I guess that makes it a munch. ;-)
Miss Sarah A. Stierch
> Under orders from My Empress (when I was trying to show Alyda what
> dominance and submission actually are), I wound up wearing brown to a
> goth show. Get over it - it's yr mind that matters, not yr closet.
> {Death to AGF. Long live the New Flesh.}
>
Yeah, I know it's "yr mind that matters, not yr closet," but last time I
got "involved" in any goth stuff in Indianapolis, I felt very uncomfortable,
and people were *looking*
It was very annoying. Of course, I was much more self concioncess etc,
back then.
Ooh, big typo there.
> Marilene Isaacs. Formerly Marilene Isaacs Kaufmann. Very cool lady. She
> made a brief appearance at the Melody the night after Xmas when they had
> the "mentalist" performing... And she was the one who inspired the
> infamous "amaretto milkshake" recipe at the Lockerbie.
>
Oh yeah, she's super nice. She's good friends, with my friend ALex's
mother, so I've met her a variety of times. She's very nice, I offered to
help her on her little TV show, something happened and we never got in
contact..
> Or you don't go out in public at all (Mykal). Or you self.identify with
> another group of folk (Vargr). Or you're too busy at work and with The
> Dame to just "hang out" randomly (me). Or you'd rather tweak on the synth
> in your bedroom for days on end (geekthefreak).
>
We were talking girls. But, hey, yeah. I'm just the "few friends,
computer, records, bored," chick who just waits for something to happen.
Il'l get around to doing something eventually. Someone has to seduce me out
of my apartment though.
> NB: next Bedlam - 2/19/00. DJ Incubus will *not* be spinning (yay! less
> Manson! more Ministry!)
>
Hmm. That's at lockerbie right?
> It's a coffeehouse, m'dear. The Dame showed up at the last Bedlam wearing
> blue jeans and a blue argyle sweater and she out goth'd half the place
> (Ismene being the exception that proves the rule). I wore a pair of black
> BDUs, GI boots & a black t-shirt - much more rivethead than goth but...
> Vanilla/Mundane folk come in and out getting latte's and coffee
> constantly. The bar across the street doesn't serve any non-alcoholic
> coffee drinks anymore, so we get some of them coming over.
> And it's LOCKERBIE, ferchrissakes...
>
Yeah, I went their for the second time recently, for the Saraswati show.
I left pretty quickly. It was boring.
Perhaps i'll show up..I dont' really have any friends that I know who go
though. And I hate going alone, to that shit. Hrm.
> Everybody knows Nick...
>
Does he go to Bedlamn? We used to be bestest friends.
> I'm planning a "Welcome Back To Hell" party for Michael before the show
> at the PU this friday. The indy.net.goths are all invited (quite
indy.net.goths? I dunno anything about that.
I mean, I'm an indy.net.goth in my own world, cause I'm a gothy chick,
who goes on the net, and live sin Indy. But is this some clan of people?
> cordially) - Lockerbie Coffeehouse (630 E. Michigan - College &
> Michigan), 7pm-ish. I'll provide the Caffeine-Free Diet Mountain Dew...
> Plz pass word along to all who might wish to join us...
> Wow. Damn. I guess that makes it a munch. ;-)
>
Hrm. Maybe I can come up and go "hey i'm the chick from the NG" So
whattya look like?
mykal d'archangel
<keith_t...@hotmail.com> put forth:
>Or you don't go out in public at all (Mykal).
You're baiting me now aren't you? ;) Damnit - I *am* one of those
yuppies on The Monon! I go out in public, but it always seems like the
public I want to be with si never around. Tho I will make an
appearance at the Purple Underground this Friday. Something about some
Crimson Mane chick I've known since high school.
> BTW - Vargr now qualifies as truly "elder-goth," no
>matter how much he says "rivethead"... Make sure to wish him happy b'day
>next time you see him out.
Missed you at the B-day party (what's this about me not getting out?)
- much fun was had with pizza, The 13th Warrior and... other things. I
had to leave early tho. Such is the lot of a corporate working stiff.
Oddly enough - Vargrs apartment was very tastefully decorated, and
looked much like how mine SHOULD look... when it's clean... and the
furniture matches.
>I'm planning a "Welcome Back To Hell" party for Michael before the show
>at the PU this friday. The indy.net.goths are all invited (quite
>cordially) - Lockerbie Coffeehouse (630 E. Michigan - College &
>Michigan), 7pm-ish.
Sounds frightening. Should be fun!
m d'a
Wanted: Indianapolis area *Bass Player*
for gothy/arty/geeky music.
http://Mikhaine.tripod.com
Keith 13
>>Or you don't go out in public at all (Mykal).
> You're baiting me now aren't you?
As always... <deep formal curtsey while wearing combat boots & lab coat)
>Something about some Crimson Mane chick I've known since high school.
so hook up with us for coffee and join in the caravan to Fountain Square,
d00d!
> >BTW - Vargr now qualifies as truly "elder-goth,"...
> >Make sure to wish him happy b'day next time you see him out.
>
> Missed you at the B-day party (what's this about me not getting out?) ...
> Oddly enough - Vargrs apartment was very tastefully decorated, and
> looked much like how mine SHOULD look...
Vargr's place doesn't count as getting out - The Brotherhood were there,
ferpetessake. Criteria for getting out: beer not from your fridge, half-
naked members of the appropriate sex, repetitive noises of a rhythmic
nature...
On second thought, I guess it did count ;-).
BTW - the artist formerly known as The Dame and MySelf showed at 10:30
after another friend's b'day party over at the Hard Rock. You must've
pumpkin'd out *real* early, buddy boy...
Nyx
Damn, I thought this was going to be about the new Gibson novel.
Nyx
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Jetrock
><snip>
>
>Damn, I thought this was going to be about the new Gibson novel.
>
that Gibson named the novel after.
"Vargr"? Any relation to the TRAVELLER alien species?
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Nyx
Jetrock <jetrock@REMOVE_ME.emrl.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:59:55 -0600, Nyx <ny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> ><snip>
> >
> >Damn, I thought this was going to be about the new Gibson novel.
> >
> yeah, and I thought it was going to be about the Velvet Underground song
> that Gibson named the novel after.
>
Wasn't it a Fitzgerald short story title before that?
Jetrock
>
>
>
>Jetrock <jetrock@REMOVE_ME.emrl.com> wrote in message
>news:slrn8a194m....@boulez.emrl.com...
>> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:59:55 -0600, Nyx <ny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> ><snip>
>> >
>> >Damn, I thought this was going to be about the new Gibson novel.
>> >
>> yeah, and I thought it was going to be about the Velvet Underground song
>> that Gibson named the novel after.
>>
>
>Wasn't it a Fitzgerald short story title before that?
>
Gibson) than I am with Fitzgerald.
Jetrock
>On 8 Feb 2000 15:23:21 -0800, jetrock@REMOVE_ME.emrl.com (Jetrock) put
>forth:
>
>
>>"Vargr"? Any relation to the TRAVELLER alien species?
>
>of several thigns; wolf, outlaw, etc.
>
>But geeze - Traveler! There's a game I haven't thought about in 20
>years or so...
>
okay, that's probably the origin of the Traveller species: in case your
geek-muscles failed you, the Vargr are a race of genetically "uplifted"
Terran canines.
That's what I get for not being up on my Old Norse.
devor...@my-deja.com
Any uplifted terran wolf (that's full size, bipedal, walking, talking
dogs to the rest of you) are welcome to come party with me anytime.
They're easily entertained, and they are great receptacles for last
weeks leftovers that have started to go south.
As far as Indianapolis goes,
What little goth life there is in that town that didn't die when the No
Bar went under in Muncie (any of you remember it?) seemed to center
around the Abbey and the Half Price Books, both in Castleton. In that
town, if you're goth, you are contractually obligated to work for a
bookstore. No ifs, ands or buts about it.
Devora
who is embarassed to admit how much she knows about Central Indiana
mykal d'archangel
<keith_t...@hotmail.com> put forth:
>Vargr's place doesn't count as getting out - The Brotherhood were there,
>ferpetessake. Criteria for getting out: beer not from your fridge, half-
>naked members of the appropriate sex, repetitive noises of a rhythmic
>nature...
>
>On second thought, I guess it did count ;-).
I was gonna say...
>BTW - the artist formerly known as The Dame and MySelf showed at 10:30
>after another friend's b'day party over at the Hard Rock. You must've
>pumpkin'd out *real* early, buddy boy...
Sure sounds like it - I went home 'round ten. And I was *still* late
for work the next morning. Perhaps I shall see you at Lockerbie but
definitely at the ole PU.
mykal d'archangel
forth:
>"Vargr"? Any relation to the TRAVELLER alien species?
Hmmm.. I don't think so. Apparently it's an old norse word meaning one
of several thigns; wolf, outlaw, etc.
But geeze - Traveler! There's a game I haven't thought about in 20
years or so...
m d'a
Keith 13
> jetrock@REMOVE_ME.emrl.com (Jetrock) wrote:
> > "Vargr"? Any relation to the TRAVELLER alien species?
I second mykal in saying "Jeez - Traveller..."
Vargr is a kind, warm and wonderful gentleman here in Indy who does
erotic performance art with a troupe called Crimson Mane. His website is
http://www.vargr.org - have fun! Stay Safe, Stay Intense...
> As far as Indianapolis goes,
> What little goth life there is in that town ... seemed to center
> around the Abbey and the Half Price Books, both in Castleton. In that
> town, if you're goth, you are contractually obligated to work for a
> bookstore. No ifs, ands or buts about it.
Caffeine is still one of the drugs of choice - but it's now moved
further south to Lockerbie (just down the street from Abbey Prime at
Mass Ave & College). And the bookstore requirement seems to have been
waived in favor of "professional student" and/or "code toad".
I fulfilled my requirements with Brady Games (a division of Macmillan
Digital Publishing). Mykal still works there, I believe. That's about
all I know about the local census of Book.Goths...
> Devora
> who is embarassed to admit how much she knows about Central Indiana
Local? #include invitation.coffee_consumption?friday night@7pm
--
love, keith
[the goth formerly known as thirteen]
ODGB
var...@my-deja.com
md_archa...@hotmail.com (mykal
d'archangel) wrote:
>>Vargr's place doesn't count as getting out
>>Criteria for getting out: beer not from your
>>fridge, half-
>>naked members of the appropriate sex,
>>repetitive noises of a rhythmic
>>nature...
>>
>>On second thought, I guess it did count ;-).
>
> I was gonna say...
Hey, all my parties feature half naked people,
rhythmic noises, alcohol, and edged weaponry.
That's why people come back. This last one was a
bit tame...
Now the gathering after Hakim's wedding this
Saturday night/Sunday morning. Ack! THAT was
rough on the bod! I'm not complaining too much
though.
Vargr
www.vargr.org
mykal_d_...@my-deja.com
> Keith 13 <keith_t...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >devor...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > In that
> > town, if you're goth, you are contractually obligated to work for a
> > bookstore. No ifs, ands or buts about it.
>
> I fulfilled my requirements with Brady Games (a division of Macmillan
> Digital Publishing). Mykal still works there, I believe. That's about
> all I know about the local census of Book.Goths...
Shhhh! No one is suppsoed to know! Oh wait.. I've told everyone this
before... Well - I *did* work for a bookstore at the Anderson mall. If
you ever want to see the living dead in Indy - go there. I'm not talking
about the goth bookstore people, I'm talking about the *mall walkers*.
they flock there in droves.
DJ Specter did time at a bookstore in Castleton as well. But he was in
the CD section, so it was ok.
m d'a
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http://Mikhaine.tripod.com
mykal_d_...@my-deja.com
var...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Hey, all my parties feature half naked people,
> rhythmic noises, alcohol, and edged weaponry.
> That's why people come back. This last one was a
> bit tame...
>
> Now the gathering after Hakim's wedding this
> Saturday night/Sunday morning. Ack! THAT was
> rough on the bod! I'm not complaining too much
> though.
Hrm - perhaps I should have gone ot that instead of the hockey game. I'm
going to guess that there would have been more violence and body checking
going on.
devor...@my-deja.com
mykal_d_...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <87snbp$1og$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > Keith 13 <keith_t...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >devor...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > > In that
> > > town, if you're goth, you are contractually obligated to work for
a
> > > bookstore. No ifs, ands or buts about it.
> >
> > I fulfilled my requirements with Brady Games (a division of
Macmillan
> > Digital Publishing). Mykal still works there, I believe. That's
about
> > all I know about the local census of Book.Goths...
>
> Shhhh! No one is suppsoed to know! Oh wait.. I've told everyone this
> before... Well - I *did* work for a bookstore at the Anderson mall. If
> you ever want to see the living dead in Indy - go there. I'm not
talking
> about the goth bookstore people, I'm talking about the *mall walkers*.
> they flock there in droves.
>
> DJ Specter did time at a bookstore in Castleton as well. But he was in
> the CD section, so it was ok.
>
> m d'a
I am so sorry.
Hopefully you will recover from the brain damage quickly.
For those of you not from the armpit of the midwest,
Anderson is a sucking hole in the eastern part of the state.
It was known in the early 80s as having the highest unemployment in the
country - at the time more than 25%.This is what you get when there are
three big employers in town, all auto plants, and two of them shut down.
Anderson is a cesspool. I grew up about half an hour away. Everyone with
an iq higher than room temperature leaves as soon as possible by any
means possible. It's so bad that it makes India-no-place look like a
haven of tolerance and culture.
Some things never change.
Devora
who has left and returned to this state more times than she wants to
count
devor...@hotmail.com
Dave Smith
<mykal_d_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:889dvd$qj4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Hrm - perhaps I should have gone ot that instead of the hockey game. I'm
> going to guess that there would have been more violence and body checking
> going on.
No body checking to speak of. Violence, yes, but only the really fun kind.
If only we would have had the video camera...
Vargr
www.vargr.org
mykal_d_...@my-deja.com
devor...@my-deja.com wrote:
> You worked at the Anderson mall?
> I am so sorry.
> Hopefully you will recover from the brain damage quickly.
Heh:) It wasn't so bad- the scary thing was when they opened in the
morning. I would slip under the gate to count the register and get things
ready. The mall would already be filled with mall walkers - like some
sort of bizarre day room in an asylum - most would shuffle about, others
would actually walk. Some would talk to the air in front of them.
I worked there for two months until the manager decided that she couldn't
give me more than ten hours a week, but needed me to be available at all
times - hence no requested days off. Even with a months notice. So I
quit.
>
> For those of you not from the armpit of the midwest,
> Anderson is a sucking hole in the eastern part of the state.
But they had A-1 Records and Music Today; both landmark establishments
for musicians and fans alike. Plus they had that old theater downtown.
But otherwise - a very good description. we drove through the butt end of
Andersonon our way to Fairmount. *Very* depressing.
I was in Munice for about two years. It's not much different, despite
Ball State being there - it's a town slowly waiting to die.
> Anderson is a cesspool. I grew up about half an hour away. Everyone with
> an iq higher than room temperature leaves as soon as possible by any
> means possible. It's so bad that it makes India-no-place look like a
Really? A half hour away? Zowie... that sounds bad! I was in the sticks
as well. We at least had I-70 nice and close by, so we could amuse
ourselves by throwing thigns out onto it.
Just kidding.
But it *was* boring.
m d'a
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http://Mikhaine.tripod.com
devor...@my-deja.com
mykal_d_...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <889pd7$383$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> devor...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > You worked at the Anderson mall?
> > I am so sorry.
> > Hopefully you will recover from the brain damage quickly.
>
>
> I worked there for two months until the manager decided that she
couldn't
> give me more than ten hours a week, but needed me to be available at
all
> times - hence no requested days off. Even with a months notice. So I
> quit.
No, I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box.
> >
> > For those of you not from the armpit of the midwest,
> > Anderson is a sucking hole in the eastern part of the state.
>
> But they had A-1 Records and Music Today; both landmark establishments
> for musicians and fans alike. Plus they had that old theater downtown.
> But otherwise - a very good description. we drove through the butt end
of
> Andersonon our way to Fairmount. *Very* depressing.
>
> I was in Munice for about two years. It's not much different, despite
> Ball State being there - it's a town slowly waiting to die.
It has Stonehenge. It HAD the NoBar (RIP). It has all the spookykids at
Burris.
You're right. It's a pit too.
> > Anderson is a cesspool. I grew up about half an hour away. Everyone
with
> > an iq higher than room temperature leaves as soon as possible by any
> > means possible. It's so bad that it makes India-no-place look like a
>
> Really? A half hour away? Zowie... that sounds bad! I was in the
sticks
> as well. We at least had I-70 nice and close by, so we could amuse
> ourselves by throwing thigns out onto it.
>
> Just kidding.
>
> But it *was* boring.
to a religion. I think it's because it's so FLAT FLAT FLAT. Not a hill
for miles in any direction. I think we need to import some from
Cincinnati.
> m d'a
Devora
mykal_d_...@my-deja.com
devor...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Don't you just LOVE retail? And to think I worked in it for five years.
> No, I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box.
Eeek - I did it for about 6. Somewhere I felt that 'manager' was a good
title to have. I used to be a lot more agressive with my job. Retail
broke me of that! Luckily I escaped.
> But Muncie has a punk/goth/freak community (teeny-tiny, but it's there).
> It has Stonehenge. It HAD the NoBar (RIP). It has all the spookykids at
> Burris.
> You're right. It's a pit too.
Oh yeah! They have Dominion now, which does its fair share. I had the
pleasure of working at One Music before the manager decided to become a
minister. I'm not joking! Here was this 28 year old hippie, running the
one of the cooler non-stoner record stores in Muncie, and he heard the
calling. It was one of the best low paying jobs I ever had.
> You sing it, sister. Around those parts, cow tipping has been elevated
> to a religion. I think it's because it's so FLAT FLAT FLAT. Not a hill
> for miles in any direction. I think we need to import some from
> Cincinnati.
Aye! Or Brown County. There were always plenty of creepy back country
dirt roads to scare ourselves on at night though (I'll dredge up one such
story if I can find it...). *That* was good fun. I'll revisit them
occasionally just to see if I can still feel that chill. But mostly it's
just backwater Indiana.
m d'a
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'The air was full of cat-calls... no pun intended'
http://Mikhaine.tripod.com
devor...@my-deja.com
mykal_d_...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <88hk9e$kb0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> devor...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > Don't you just LOVE retail? And to think I worked in it for five
years.
> > No, I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box.
>
> Eeek - I did it for about 6. Somewhere I felt that 'manager' was a
good
> title to have. I used to be a lot more agressive with my job. Retail
> broke me of that! Luckily I escaped.
impressed when I told them that I was the Assistant Manager of a
BOOKSTORE.
We need our own support group : Recovering Retail Workers. I can see it
now...
> > But Muncie has a punk/goth/freak community (teeny-tiny, but it's
there).
> > It has Stonehenge. It HAD the NoBar (RIP). It has all the spookykids
at
> > Burris.
> > You're right. It's a pit too.
>
> Oh yeah! They have Dominion now, which does its fair share. I had the
> pleasure of working at One Music before the manager decided to become
a
> minister. I'm not joking! Here was this 28 year old hippie, running
the
> one of the cooler non-stoner record stores in Muncie, and he heard the
> calling. It was one of the best low paying jobs I ever had.
are just amazingly cool, and you barely make enough to cover the bills.
I miss those jobs.
> > You sing it, sister. Around those parts, cow tipping has been
elevated
> > to a religion. I think it's because it's so FLAT FLAT FLAT. Not a
hill
> > for miles in any direction. I think we need to import some from
> > Cincinnati.
>
> Aye! Or Brown County. There were always plenty of creepy back country
> dirt roads to scare ourselves on at night though (I'll dredge up one
such
> story if I can find it...). *That* was good fun. I'll revisit them
> occasionally just to see if I can still feel that chill. But mostly
it's
> just backwater Indiana.
Kentucky. Not only are they in the backwater of Indiana, but many of the
residents have a Kentucky accent, which drops your IQ by 50 points.
> m d'a
Devora
"If I can make it until 5 PM without killing anyone,
the day will be considered a success."
Keith 13
> Aye! Or Brown County. There were always plenty of creepy back country
> dirt roads to scare ourselves on at night though (I'll dredge up one
> such story if I can find it...). *That* was good fun. I'll revisit
> them occasionally just to see if I can still feel that chill. But
> mostly it's just backwater Indiana.
Two words: Camby, Indiana. It's where my family moved after we left
Montreal, PQ...
It was just a post office and a gas station and a liquor store until
about 5 years ago. Now there's a wee bit more to do nothing at clustered
around SR67 on the way down to Mooresville. If you're on 67 at just the
right place, you can see *exactly* where the glacial ice cap stopped
during the last ice age. Gravity Hill was about a 10 minute bicycle ride
from my parent's house. Friendswood Golf Course holds fond memories of
me running a quick 9 with friends while I was wearing a Bauhaus t-shirt,
paint covered BDUs and black jungle boots - that's back when I could do
9 holes in the mid 40s...
Lot's of old housing editions from the 60s and 70s surrounded by corn &
soybean fields. A few wineries have vines nearby, but those are either
private or selling to C.Thomas or Oliver (...ack...). Plenty of gnarled
old farmhouses in the middle of nowhere looking like good places to hide
the bodies down in the root cellar...
Too bad they don't make nostalgia like they used to...
--
love, keith
[the goth formerly known as thirteen]
ODGB