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Daednu

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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What the hell????
Okay, I just got Mirc tonight. I tried it out. I finally figured out to
type "goth". I ended up getting in a room called something like "goth
viagra".
It was hell.
Pure and simple.
The people were horrible. I got kicked for no reason. The person said
"don't disagree with me". Then I got kicked a couple more times for no
reason. What's that???
I tried to ask why everyone was so abrasive, I was told to f*ck off and
die.
Tell me nobody here goes by "noctem" or "mmmcc". Horrible people.

Please, tell me there is more to IRC than this. Tell me there are decent
groups. Frig I feel horrible after that whole thing. :(
If that's all there is, I'm deleting Mirc.

*Daednu (feeling unusually down)
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Lady Greycat

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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[This followup was posted to alt.gothic and a copy was sent to the cited
author.]

In article <35AEF25F...@storm.ca>, (NOSPAM...@storm.ca) Daednu
said in a loud stage whisper:


> The people were horrible. I got kicked for no reason. The person said
> "don't disagree with me". Then I got kicked a couple more times for no
> reason. What's that???
> I tried to ask why everyone was so abrasive, I was told to f*ck off and
> die.
> Tell me nobody here goes by "noctem" or "mmmcc". Horrible people.


Sounds like #gothic. They are rather rude and childish at times there.
There are a few really cool people in #gothic, but for the most part,
it's not work your time.

>
> Please, tell me there is more to IRC than this. Tell me there are decent
> groups.


Try #altgothic...That seems like the natural choice for a group, eh?:)
Most of the goth groups are on invisible <secret> mode because well, it
keeps the mansonites out most of the time, and people like Joe Bob who
wants to be an ass is less likely to find the group.

you will find alot of regulars from AG in #altgothic, and it seems like a
pretty nice place, for the most part.

Greycat
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Narnia

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Daednu (NOSPAM...@storm.ca) wrote:

: Okay, I just got Mirc tonight. I tried it out. I finally figured out to


: type "goth". I ended up getting in a room called something like "goth
: viagra".

I'm guessing that was the topic.

: It was hell.
: Pure and simple.

<kicking, etc. snipped>

Ah. What were you on? If this was EFnet, I'm willing to bet this was #gothic.

: Please, tell me there is more to IRC than this. Tell me there are decent
: groups. Frig I feel horrible after that whole thing. :(


: If that's all there is, I'm deleting Mirc.

IRC is wonderful.

Come to #altgothic on EFnet. :)


=Narnia=
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babygoth list/irc/webring admin, #altgothic addict, honorary milgoth


Cavalorn

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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In article <35AEF25F...@storm.ca>, Daednu <NOSPAM...@storm.ca>
writes
>What the hell????

>Okay, I just got Mirc tonight. I tried it out. I finally figured out to
>type "goth". I ended up getting in a room called something like "goth
>viagra".

Okay, here's what to do.

1) In the Setup window, select an EfNet server.
2) When you connect, type /join #altgothic
3) Boggle at the number of a.g. regulars you can now chat to.
4) Don't forget to say hello.

Alternatively, visit #gothik or #goths on the Undernet, where I will be
happy to show you around (if I'm on at all that is... bloody UK phone
charges), or #goth on the same server, where the person to say hi to is
TonyGirl (aka Leo).

Cavalorn
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Katar Shon-Dranith

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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Daednu wrote...

>What the hell????
">S<"


>Please, tell me there is more to IRC than this. Tell me there are
>decent groups. Frig I feel horrible after that whole thing. :(
>If that's all there is, I'm deleting Mirc.

Click on the button in the toolbar with the folder icon. Choose an
EFNet server (beware the Missouri one, it doesn't have any spam
rules, so you'll have to build up a big /ignore list). Click "Connect
to IRC server!". Then type /join #altgothic in the status window.

Congratulations, you just found the best channel on IRC (IMNSHO).

>*Daednu (feeling unusually down)

You'll find yourself feeling much better once you've found #altgothic.

High Lord Katar Shon-Dranith
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Leonora the Lonely KittenLady

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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In the year of our Lord, Fri, 17 Jul 1998 02:42:39 -0400, the foolish

Daednu <NOSPAM...@storm.ca> dared to write:

>
>Tell me nobody here goes by "noctem" or "mmmcc". Horrible people.

hahaha

undernet

*smirk*

undernet #goth is...hostile [1]

-Leonora (Mistresss of All Evil & Goddess Material :)
[1] that's why i'm an op ;P
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ren

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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Getting kicked is the wors'tist feeling in the world. I have
to fight this vomit rising in my throat every time I try to
go on IRC. I've been on twice in about a year.

I used to go onto EFnet's #gothic for about 5 years mostly
on Saturday night before I would go out. I met really nice
people most who live in San Francisco now. It was like a
#gothic convergence last year, really.

I even met the group that created the bots and ran the
channel, also very nice, Erin? :)

But Play42Day and Neumann didn't like what I had to say one
night and kick banned me. I've been kicked all the time for
about 5 years but never banned. Most of the things I type
are pure Trollish but in silly fun. I was more than hurt for
being banned. I really wanted to kill them. Then I got a
hold of myself. I was planning murder for real. So I said,
"fuck this. IRC isn't worth it." It's not Neumann's and
Play42Day's complete fault. It's the way IRC is set up. They
kick-banned me because I was being an asshole. IRC turns
everybody into assholes. :)

That's really dumb. Getting pissed off at somebody you've
never met because they kick/banned you. Going and stalking
them for two weeks before you put a bullet in their heads
walking through an airport. It's best to just not play on
IRC too much. Perhaps an hour a week.

{o}racle

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Jul 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/18/98
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In article <zkVwMHAn...@newaeonbooks.demon.co.uk>, Cavalorn <cava...@newaeonbooks.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <35AEF25F...@storm.ca>, Daednu <NOSPAM...@storm.ca>
>writes
>>What the hell????
>>Okay, I just got Mirc tonight. I tried it out. I finally figured out to
>>type "goth". I ended up getting in a room called something like "goth
>>viagra".
>
>Okay, here's what to do.
>
>1) In the Setup window, select an EfNet server.
>2) When you connect, type /join #altgothic
>3) Boggle at the number of a.g. regulars you can now chat to.
>4) Don't forget to say hello.
>
>Alternatively, visit #gothik or #goths on the Undernet, where I will be
>happy to show you around (if I'm on at all that is... bloody UK phone
>charges), or #goth on the same server, where the person to say hi to is
>TonyGirl (aka Leo).

All that, and WHATEVER YOU DO, STAY AWAY FROM #GOTHIC!

#gawth (EffNet) is pretty good, but there are hardly any people on it.

Luv,
{o}racle (sorry to yell)

Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn

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Jul 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/20/98
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#Gothic (EFNET) is an excellent channel. You just gotta know the rules.

-Sternn

'I believe in the theory of a ruling class. Especially since I rule.'
-Clerks

Individuat

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Jul 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/20/98
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all this talk of stay away from #gothic..
and name calling...
and no mention of Uncle Jed?
I bet he's crying...
*giggle*
You're all soft.
Eileen (doesn't go on #gothic much anymore...but had a nice 3-4 year stay
there)
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Marcus Pan

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Jul 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/20/98
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Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn wrote:
>
> #Gothic (EFNET) is an excellent channel. You just gotta know the rules.

Being an asshole isn't a rule. It's a problem. That's why I go to
EFNET #altgothic. Not as many bursting flames of egotistical
gother-than-thou attitudes.

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Necr0angel

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Jul 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/20/98
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>From: Marcus Pan <p...@idt.net>

>That's why I go to
>EFNET #altgothic. Not as many bursting flames of egotistical
>gother-than-thou attitudes.

Unless I'm there;)

necroangel
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Charlotte Ashley

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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Marcus Pan (p...@idt.net) writes:
> Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn wrote:
>>
>> #Gothic (EFNET) is an excellent channel. You just gotta know the rules.
>
> Being an asshole isn't a rule. It's a problem. That's why I go to

> EFNET #altgothic. Not as many bursting flames of egotistical
> gother-than-thou attitudes.

*snort*

#gothic is not all that bad. At all. No worse than alt.gothic in it's
prime, anyway. ;)

Survival of the Fittest, etc. ;)


leanan sidhe, who likes #gothic as much as one can like a shallow and
meaningless medium.


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So Fair as Fancy draws.

Skerry Carrie, Quite Contrary!

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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On Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:12:05 -0400, "Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn"
<cpts...@gothic.net> scribbled in ubergoffick black eyeliner:

>#Gothic (EFNET) is an excellent channel. You just gotta know the rules.

I always found it dreadfully boring. #altgothic, while painfully,
excruciatingly fluffy at times, seems to be preferred among most. :)

Carrie

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I Won't Hurt You?
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In My Mouth, In My Teeth. http://www.execpc.com/~skerry/

David Gerard

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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On Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:12:05 -0400, "Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn"
<cpts...@gothic.net> wrote:

:#Gothic (EFNET) is an excellent channel. You just gotta know the rules.


Like staying away.

#altgothic is sorta nearly maybe purty much the channel of the newsgroup.
#agsf is the backup in case of weenie attacks.


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David Gerard

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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On 20 Jul 1998 18:34:50 GMT, indiv...@aol.com (Individuat) wrote:

:all this talk of stay away from #gothic..
:and name calling...
:and no mention of [DELETED]?
:I bet he's crying...


:*giggle*
:You're all soft.
:Eileen (doesn't go on #gothic much anymore...but had a nice 3-4 year stay
:there)


It's the Usenet postings of such as [DELETED] that put me off ever trying
it ...

Ron Cecchini

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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ske...@execpc.com wrote:

> #altgothic, while painfully, excruciatingly fluffy at times

I defy anyone to show me an IRC channel, or any other chatroom for that matter,
that isn't boring, fluffy, and, ultimately, a monumental waste of time...

][

(who wonders if any of his posts are making it out)

Marcus Pan

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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Yup...they are.

Marcus Pan

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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Ron Cecchini wrote:
> I defy anyone to show me an IRC channel, or any other chatroom for that matter,
> that isn't boring, fluffy, and, ultimately, a monumental waste of time...

Ask denizens of #altgothic about Wheel Of Goth Tunes. Free memory, hard
drives and what-not isn't a waste of time. :P

Individuat

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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The good Rev. David Gerrard said:

> It's the Usenet postings of such as [DELETED] that put me off
> ever trying
> it ...

Aw he's not that bad....
Common David...you'll take on the scary CO$ but you won't take on HIM?????
Eileen

Necr0angel

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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>From: f...@thingy.apana.org.au (David Gerard)

>On Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:12:05 -0400, "Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn"
><cpts...@gothic.net> wrote:
>
>:#Gothic (EFNET) is an excellent channel. You just gotta know the rules.
>
>
>Like staying away.

That's always a good idea...the last time I went there I was kick/banned for my
name being spelled "necroangl"(see, IRC Only allows 9 characters....;)) with
the message "learn to spell you fucker". How nice.

Marcus Pan

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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Necr0angel wrote:
> That's always a good idea...the last time I went there I was kick/banned for my
> name being spelled "necroangl"(see, IRC Only allows 9 characters....;)) with
> the message "learn to spell you fucker". How nice.

Well, that's what happens when you have a Mallgoth gathering with a
median age of 12.

Skerry Carrie, Quite Contrary!

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On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:30:22 -0500, Ron.Ce...@GSC.GTE.Com (Ron
Cecchini) scribbled in ubergoffick black eyeliner:

>I defy anyone to show me an IRC channel, or any other chatroom for that matter,
>that isn't boring, fluffy, and, ultimately, a monumental waste of time...

#altgothic isn't boring :P Er.. in the wee hours of the morning,
that is. All the fun happens after the kiddies are tucked into bed.

Waste of time? How dare you! *sob*

>(who wonders if any of his posts are making it out)

Nope.

Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn

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Jul 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/21/98
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Yeah, we try to keep the mallgoths out. Thats why we kickban so many people
like yourself.

- @CptSternn

Marcus Pan wrote in message <35B4FC...@idt.net>...

timmie

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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after some tension mounting buildup betwixt our two antagonists #gothic
and alt.gothic....
> Marcus Pan wrote in message <35B4FC...@idt.net>...
> >
> >Well, that's what happens when you have a Mallgoth gathering with a
> >median age of 12.

then Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn <cpts...@gothic.net> wrote:

> Yeah, we try to keep the mallgoths out. Thats why we kickban so many people
> like yourself.
>
> - @CptSternn

*tag* a.g.. you're it... because of course no one could let such
undeniably uncalled for insults get by without some more mindless
posturing to fan the constant and fairly pointless feud further... could
they?

*sigh*

timmie, sporadic participant in both groups.... and keeping firmly in
mind that it takes a two to perform mating rituals thinly disguised as
synchronised perforance art...

--
** > < slightly trembling with a strange mixture of unadulterated
*** o o glee and inexplicable mind-numbing terror... the squirrel
** x stood firm... his vows memorized soundly...
*/" "\ ... and awaited the arrival of his bride.... :)

David Gerard

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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On 21 Jul 1998 19:49:51 GMT, indiv...@aol.com (Individuat) wrote:

:The good Rev. David Gerrard said:

:> It's the Usenet postings of such as [DELETED] that put me off
:> ever trying
:> it ...

:Aw he's not that bad....
:Common David...you'll take on the scary CO$ but you won't take on HIM?????


'take on'? You can nail lime jello to the ceiling only so firmly and no
more. The posts in question spoke pretty thoroughly for themselves - a
clear inability to communicate in a medium where he doesn't wield the /bk,
and gosh it was funny. In a sad and petty sense.

Skerry Carrie, Quite Contrary!

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On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:56:25 -0400, "Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn"
<cpts...@gothic.net> scribbled in ubergoffick black eyeliner:

>Yeah, we try to keep the mallgoths out. Thats why we kickban so many people
>like yourself.

Huh-huh-huh. IRCGoths vs. UsenetGoths. Huh-huh-huh.

How original.

{o}racle

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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In article <199807211929...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, necr0...@aol.com (Necr0angel) wrote:
>>From: f...@thingy.apana.org.au (David Gerard)
>
>>On Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:12:05 -0400, "Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn"
>><cpts...@gothic.net> wrote:
>>
>>:#Gothic (EFNET) is an excellent channel. You just gotta know the rules.
>>
>>
>>Like staying away.
>
>That's always a good idea...the last time I went there I was kick/banned for my
>name being spelled "necroangl"(see, IRC Only allows 9 characters....;)) with
>the message "learn to spell you fucker". How nice.
>
They are a sweet bunch, aren't they? ;) I remember getting kickbanned once for
my nickname being "lame" (by someone who's nick was a variation of
"vampire". HA! *I'm* lame?), and once for doing a !seen on a RL friend of mine
who likes that channel for some strange reason. I have also been kicked there
for various STUPID reasons.

Luv,
{o}racle

ora...@passport.ca
http://www.passport.ca/~oracle/

Narnia

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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Ron Cecchini (Ron.Ce...@GSC.GTE.Com) wrote:

: I defy anyone to show me an IRC channel, or any other chatroom for that matter,


: that isn't boring, fluffy, and, ultimately, a monumental waste of time...

#altgothic.

I've made wonderful friends there (not to mention that's where zastur and I began
talking, and look what happened with that), and it's saved my life on more than on
occasion.

Not at all a waste of time, IMHO.


=Narnia=
http://www.velvet.net
babygoth list/irc/webring admin, #altgothic addict, honorary milgoth


Narnia

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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Individuat (indiv...@aol.com) wrote:

: Aw he's not that bad....

<snicker>

Especially after you've seen a picture...

flannel and Pearl Jam, anyone?

Katar Shon-Dranith

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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Narnia wrote...

">S<"
>honorary milgoth

I must need to go to bed. I thought that was "horny milgoth".
*chuckle*

High Lord Katar Shon-Dranith
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Katar Shon-Dranith

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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Narnia wrote...

">S<"


>flannel and Pearl Jam, anyone?

OOO! Me me me!

High Lord Katar Shon-Dranith
(loves Pearl Jam and wears flannel during the winter)

Lady Greycat

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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In article <6p3ahb$alc$1...@winter.news.erols.com>, (cpts...@gothic.net)
Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn said in a loud stage whisper:

> Yeah, we try to keep the mallgoths out. Thats why we kickban so many people
> like yourself.

No, it's mentalities like this that keep most of the interesting people
out.

So, come on, gimmie another immature and poorly written come back.

"I know you are but what am I?"

Greycat
<rolling her eyes...is this the best you can do? If so, you are sad.>
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Blacker than the foulest witch"

Greylock

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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On Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:42:53 GMT, f...@thingy.apana.org.au (David Gerard) did
sigh :
>:> It's the Usenet postings of such as [DELETED] that put me off
>:> ever trying
>:> it ...
>
>:Aw he's not that bad....
>:Common David...you'll take on the scary CO$ but you won't take on HIM?????


Errr.... who?


(H*aydn - as curious as a squirrel)

---H*ydn--- I am the Ghost that reminds Death of you
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-The Alt.Gothic Frequently Asked Questions: http://www.darkwave.org.uk/faq/ag
- The aus.culture.gothic FAQ at http://www.ooze.net/auscg/

Lady Greycat

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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In article <35c1d219...@news.albany.agn.net.au>,
(Damoc...@hotmail.com) Greylock said in a loud stage whisper:

>
> (H*aydn - as curious as a squirrel)

Oh damn...that was soo cute!

But I wanna know too. I have no idea who they are talking about...:)

Greycat

Charlotte Ashley

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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Lady Greycat (LadyG...@infoback.net) writes:
> In article <6p3ahb$alc$1...@winter.news.erols.com>, (cpts...@gothic.net)
> Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn said in a loud stage whisper:
>> Yeah, we try to keep the mallgoths out. Thats why we kickban so many people
>> like yourself.
>
> No, it's mentalities like this that keep most of the interesting people
> out.
>
> So, come on, gimmie another immature and poorly written come back.
>
> "I know you are but what am I?"

Oh, for christ's sake.

WE started it, guys. DOn't go jumping down this guy's throat just 'cause
he's in our turf. If I was in #gothic and they started going on about how
elitist and immature *we* were, I'd have a say too...

And we're not right. Neither would they be.

leanan sidhe

Marcus Pan

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Jul 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/22/98
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Cpt. Lincoln F. Sternn wrote:
>
> Yeah, we try to keep the mallgoths out. Thats why we kickban so many people
> like yourself.

Oh, yeah, I'm definitely a mallgoth, yupyup. Sure. <nods head> Gee,
how'd you guess?

(Not even bothering to strike back because, well, isn't it OBVIOUS why
I'm not bothering?)

Jack

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