Bands We Hate
AKICITA
Who are they?
Me:
1) Marylin Manson
2) Spice Girls
3) Hanson
4) Cranberries
5) Alanis "screech" Morisette
5) Snoop Doggie Dogg/any "bitches" and "ho's" rapper
6) Fake Alternative - bush, no doubt, hanson...
7) Aqua
8) Green Day/fake punk (give me SubHumAns ANY day!!!)
9) new age stuff - John Tesh, etc. (except Tangerine Dream. I like them)
10 Hair Rock - Bon Jovi, Tesla, Whitesnake, Queensryche, Quiet Riot,
Jackyl, Helloween, Van Halen, Motley Crue...You get the picture.
Contributers to this thread will be read with interest, despite the
ever-present risk of setting yourself up for a flame. Come on, don't be
afraid--who do you hate?
James Greenhalgh
All generic rave/dance/house/jungle/(insert other identically sounding
but differently named types here).
I hate it.
Oh, also Simply Red, UB40, rap (all), and all those rather trite love
songs (r&b?).
There must be laws against noise pollution of this magnitude?
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Jamie Keane
Once upon a time (Tue, 04 Nov 1997 03:58:46 -0600 to be exact), AKICITA
<matthew.g....@ou.edu> (AKA AKICITA) penned:
>Who are they?
>
1) Spice Girls
2) Hanson
3) The Hootie Leigon (y'know the type... DMB, Sister Hazel, etc.)
4) Any of that Jeep Beat, drum&bass shite
5) Alanis Morrisette
5) new Marilyn Manson (the old stuff is kinda groovy but ACS is way too trendy)
And here's where I'll probably get flamed...
6) Alien Sex Fiend
7) Xian Death (though I really do like Faith & The Muse and Mephisto Walz)
8) I'm getting sorta sick of pop-industrial (ie Gravity Kills and Stabbing
Westward)... don't get me wrong, I *love* good industrial bands, but Ministry at
its worst is 10 times better than GK at its best.
Where was that asbestos nightshirt?
Off to bed... ZzzzZZzzzzZ
Jamie
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Tish Gomez
I just wanted to say I hate the same bands
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EphemeraI
I hate bauhaus. Sorry. I'm just really sick of them.
oh and all those Gratedul dead bands like phish and rusted root and i hate
sistermachinegun and i hate especially hate chemlab
jenocide
On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Jack wrote:
>>5) Snoop Doggie Dogg/any "bitches" and "ho's" rapper
>
>Gangsta Rap for some weird reason. (I used to wear a Public Enemy t-shirt
>to the club once in a while, back around '92 or so. It really kind of
>freaked people out. <g>)
actually i was waiting for someone to speak up and actually admit to
liking rap. of course, i was always more old-school (leaders of the new
school, de la soul, del da funky homosapian, etc....). then again pe was
always kinda cross over amongst the punk population.
>>9) new age stuff - John Tesh, etc. (except Tangerine Dream. I like them)
>
>Kenny G gives me a rash. Remember that scene from Waynes World II?
what about enya?
does she count.
>Waiting to be flamed. <g>
you can hide over at my house.
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AKICITA
not...like...bauhaus...omigod, my therapist just left for vacation and
now I hear this!...Blasphemy! The evil one speaketh blasphemy!
Has the lightning struck yet?
-Matt, who is ALSO listening to chemlab at this very moment ;)
Spurious
Hmm Music i hate..
1) "The beavis and Butthead expierence" complation, and all bands
associated with, Minus aerosmith.
2) Rap. Save one maybe two songs.
3) Hooty and the Blow up dolls. Sorry, Hooty, do you think you rock or
something??
4) "Mariah Carrey, Whitney Houston, any of those other high pitched,
canary
sounding, easy listening, female "vocalist" types. You know, the ones
who
spend all their time showing how cool they are by trying to hit long,
annoying high notes, while singing songs that are about absolutely
*nothing*?" --(jack.)
5) Alanis morrisette, I'm whiney and ranty, love me.. wait isn't that
everyone here??.. *ponder*
6) Meridith Brooks, Visited by aunt flo, and made millions. *sigh*
7) R&b, Soul, Bass music,
8) "The cardigans"
9) rod stweart. Sorry, any man who drinks one cup of Semen before a
concert, and lets it be known gets props, but his music.. sucks. *shrug*
10) Spice girls.
11) death rock, and anything sounding remotely like "gwar"
12) dave mathews band, Toad the wet sprocket, other preppy alternative
bullshit called alternative.
13) "80's frat rock" (my father has the cd, and Overkill doesn't begin
to explain.
--chris
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GraveEatr
> Manson is only crammed into the goth pigeonhole because he's spooky, and
> just plain gross, and that's not goth. He belongs with those Gwar
> jokers, not with bands of stark beauty and agony like Bauhaus,
HEY! I object to that statement! GWAR doesn't deserve such a spit in
the face as being catagorized with Manson. Fuck that. One BIG difference
between GWAR and Manson (besides EVERYTHING) is the fact that all of the
fans, and everybody and their grandmothers know GWAR's fake... it's just
a show.
Not the case with Manson. These little teeny-boppers listen to Manson,
and... oh wait, look! All of a sudden they start calling themselves
"freaks"... meant in a good way, according to them (why anybody would
consider being called a 'freak' a compliment is beyond me), and they all
suddenly are "satanists". PLEASE!!! I bet 3/4 of them never even picked
up any literature that LaVey wrote, know of any of the satanic holidays,
or even know what true satanism is all about. You don't see GWAR fans
take anything they (GWAR) say or do seriously... and you don't see GWAR
fans going out and chopping the heads off of priests, or raping dead
dogs or anything like that, just because GWAR happens to sing about
things like that... and do things like that on stage.
† GraveEatr † - Devoted GWAR fan for life.
AcidDragon
Just one question (from someone not in the goth community), what don't u
like about these bands, most are bad anyway, but led zepplin? Even bon
jovi's had some good ones (These Days was his best album, very emotional
and dark IMO). Ironic that u hate manson, since everybody calls him goth
(except me, and all of you).
Acid Dragon
Shadowchaser wrote:
> AKICITA wrote:
> >
> > Who are they?
> >
> > Me:
> >
> 1) Any Russian
> 2) Spice Girls
> 3) Witney houston
> 4) Queen
> 5) Oasis
> 5) Deep Purple
> 6) Led Zeppelin
> 7) Iron maiden
> 8) Dokken
> 9) babylon Zoo
> > 10) Hair Rock - Bon Jovi, Tesla, Whitesnake, Quiet Riot,
> Jackyl, Helloween, Van Halen, Motley Crue...You get the picture.
> That's pok except Queensryche, - I dare defend them
>
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GraveEatr
> Contributers to this thread will be read with interest, despite the
> ever-present risk of setting yourself up for a flame. Come on, don't be
> afraid--who do you hate?
Ok, these are the bands I hate. In no particular order.. because I
don't like thinking of these bands long enough to rate them...
1) Smashing Pumpkins
2) 2Pac
3) Norious BIG
4) Bush
5) Live
6) R&B (not any band in particular, but the whole genere)
7) Country (same justification as applys to #6)
8) Poison (or any hair/glam band for that matter)
9) Cake
10) 311
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> 7) Iron maiden
These guys used to be incredible..esp powerslave era..very intellegent
very complex...no stupid metal bad here!!They were just themselves and
they kick ass..listen to Rhyme of The Ancient Mariner and tell me how
this can be hated..
> > 10) Hair Rock
> Helloween.You get the picture.
> That's pok except Queensryche, - I dare defend them
Ok so helloween did have some bad hair action going on but as i remember
so did Queensryche before Operation Mindcrime era...and if you are
familiar with early helloween you'll recall that the vocalist at the
time sounded "exactly" like geoff tate of Queensryche and played with
the same intellegence as hem as well..the current helloween lineup...yea
they suck shit.... Der Lokust
Hemlock
So this Jack character tells us...
>
> AKICITA wrote in message <345EF1...@ou.edu>...
> >
> >4) Cranberries
>
> Early Cranberries stuff wasn't too annoying. Now though...
Agreed. I like the first two CDs. This last one though... ;P
> >5) Snoop Doggie Dogg/any "bitches" and "ho's" rapper
>
> I hate Snoop. Strangely enough, I actually kind of like some hardcore
> Gangsta Rap for some weird reason
Cube, Lench Mob, Westside Connection... aww yeah. I don't really mind
Snoop... I wouldn't buy any of his music, but then, I don't buy rap
anyways. Snoop lives like 5 miles from my house, so maybe that's why I
think he's cool ;) That, and the fact that I delivered pizza to him and
Daz one night a year or two ago (they didn't tip me). I see him driving
around in his Lexus occasionally. It's an odd sight... a city best known
for it's colleges is now Snoop's 'hood.
> >6) Fake Alternative - bush, no doubt, hanson...
>
> Fake Alternative is probably one of my biggest dislikes. I used to *like*
> a lot of the *real* Alternative bands.
Confession: I kinda like Bush. Not enough to buy anything of theirs, but
some of it's not *too* bad.
> >8) Green Day/fake punk (give me SubHumAns ANY day!!!)
Subhumans rock. As a former punk, I'm deeply offended by this punk rock
resurgence that's going on now. Korn, The Offspring? Pu-leez ;P Rancid,
311, that whole ska-punk thing makes me ill.
> 10. Mariah Carrey
My old roommate's biggest fantasy was to kill Mariah Carey.
> 11. The Smashing Pumpkins
My roommate like them... ick. Which brings me to my biggest gripe
regarding current "alternative" music... Tool. What is it with Tool? I
personally can't stand them. I know so many people like them, but I really
don't understand why. I've listened to them many times because of my
roommate and other friends, but I don't know what they see in it. It just
sounds like bad heavy metal to me. And PLEASE don't tell me they're
industrial or someone will get hurt ;)
> 12. Oasis. Just don't even get me started.
Eh, I like Oasis :P
Another of my big dislikes right now is a band I used to really like. It's
not their music, but the fact that they're still playing it (or playing it
*again*, I should say)... Jane's Addiction. I used to be a huge Jane's
fan... I still like listening to them, but this whole reunion thing is
wrong. I used to really respect Perry Farrell... He always said Jane's
would split up when they reached some sort of mainstream popularity, and
that's exactly what they did. That takes real integrity to choose breaking
up a band's existence over selling platinum records and making millions of
dollars. Porno for Pyros wasn't exactly what I had in mind when he said he
would spend time on his art... I didn't care for them at all. And this
reunion just stinks of Perry falling behind on his mortgage payments and
needing to line the bank account some. I don't like using the term 'sell-
out', but if the shoe fits...
> Waiting to be flamed. <g>
Me too!! ;)
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Ok I can undersand and agree with "artists" whom you dislike but c'mon
attackin an entire genre!!! Let's see here...
If you hate all country i must assume that you must also hate the likes
Patsy Cline!!! Please say it ain't so..she's gotta be one of the most
depressing vocalists ever!! And what about Johnny Cash "the man in
black" whom sings tunes smitten with death and despair..true country
goth!!!And let's not mention how far the likes of Nick Cave and Tom
Waits steer into the vein of country at times..I mean this horeshit
country popular today is not at all "country" by any means..just pretty
faced middle class asswipes whom once rode a horse at a fuckin petting
zoo when they were 3...yes i can agree that it sucks here..but not as a
whole.
And then we have R&B..lemme see..ahh assume then that you must hate
Sade..if so you have no passion..a true diva! Also remember that R&B
includes the likes of Billy Holiday,Nina Simone and Elaa
Fitzgerald...sureley your hate does not extend to such an extent...
der Lokust
>
>
AKICITA
Spurious wrote:
>
> Hmm Music i hate..
> 9) rod stweart. Sorry, any man who drinks one cup of Semen before a
> concert, and lets it be known gets props, but his music.. sucks. *shrug*
Huh? What's the story there? Truth orrumor?
GraveEatr
DeadXXDoll
<<When I was in my early teens Led Zepplin was great, but after year upon
year upon year of hearing Led Zepplin songs on the radio in the
godforsaken town where I grew up in Led Zepplin is on my never again
list.>>
See, I'm lucky in a way, cuz the crappy radio station never played Zepplin, not
now or ever. So I still like them.
Spurious
his lively hood. I repeat IT IS TRUE.. (to my knowlege, and that of a
die hard rod stewart vice pres fan club typish person)
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DeadXXDoll
<<As for Manson, we hate him (not all goths, but most). Goth music may be
spooky and sinister at times, but it also has a thread of beauty and
artistry running through it. Manson is called goth by everyone BUT us,
as you said--that should tell you something. It should tell you that
nobody BUT us can define for us what we are and what we will like.>>
Whatever Manson may or may not be, I still think that he isn't a bad
songwriter, provided he's actually the one writing the songs. Too bad he can't
make good music to go along with it.
DeadXXDoll, who wishes all mansonites would crawl into a hole and die.
Tetsab
I won't restate all those ones Hanson... Bush... Oasis... etc...
01. The Backstreet Boys.
02. Boyzone.
03. 98 Degrees.
04. I Mother Earth.
05. Moist.
06. Jane's Addiction (I've only heard newer stuff)
07. Sloan.
08. The Foo Fighters.
09. Beck.
10. The Wu-Tang Clan.
11. Daft Punk.
12. The Mighty Mighty Bosstones.
13. Hole.
14. Smash-Mouth.
15. Celine Dion.
And a whole lot more!
Tetsab.
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FairyMange
>As for Manson, we hate him (not all goths, but most). Goth music may be
>spooky and sinister at times, but it also has a thread of beauty and
>artistry running through it.
Exactly. There is the whole manson-thingy in a nutshell. I *completely* agree.
All the kiddies love to think that's what goth is, but Manson (to me) really
cheapens the word and the concept.
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AnArChY
On Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:48:57 -0600, "Jack" <thri...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:
>>2) Spice Girls
*retch* Spice Whores. damn them and their try-outs and whatnot. AND
DAMN THEIR MOVIE TO HELL!!!
>>5) Snoop Doggie Dogg/any "bitches" and "ho's" rapper
I agree w/ Jack about the hardcore rap stuff. some of it is actually
kinda fun to turn up and make your car shake. But I still like "gin
and juice"
>>7) Aqua
AHHHH!!! THEY SING THE BARBIE SONG!!!
>Can't stand Green Day.
*sniffle* leave them alone =( has anyone heard "Good Riddance"?
now for the bands I hate:
1. FIONA APPLE. I hate her. HATE. Despise. HATE my radio station for
overplaying her.
2. Sugar Ray: Boring. Overplayed.
3. Goldfinger: sick of that Lonely Place song
4. Matchbox 20
5. Verve Pipe
6. Alice In Chains *retch*
7. Mighty Mighty Bosstones
8. 99.99% of all rap music stars
9. 99.9999999% of all the alternative crappy music they OVERplay on my
radio station, which basically encompasses the afore mentioned bands
and many others who shall remain nameless
10. Offspring
11. Metallica, Pantera, etc etc <list many more metal bands here>
I could go on FOREVER since I don't like most of the music I
come into contact with. I like stuff from the 80's tho, from when I
was growing up *nudges oddlystrange* ;> Lame stuff like Vanessa
Williams, Enigma... etc etc. I *adore* Enya and a lot of celtic music.
But I DESPISE today's music. *gag*
niles the Kat
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is experiment for us. --Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Metamorph
AKICITA wrote:
> Contributers to this thread will be read with interest, despite the
> ever-present risk of setting yourself up for a flame. Come on, don't be
> afraid--who do you hate?
1) RapCrap
2) All most all Country/Western twangy stuff
3) Jazz that repeats the same 3 notes indefinitly
4) any band that thinks screeching is music
Metamorph
The Grifter
>FIRST AND FOREMOST: BAD 80's music (not all 80's!) don't make me name
>names! ok, if you insist! 99 red balloons
>any assortment of songs that can be heard at an 80's club...
grrrr....some of the BEST music came from the 80's! I personally love bands
like Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, Ah-ha, and all those kick ass bands.
Granted, they're not all purpose music. Should only be listened to while in
a certain mood. But they do not suck.
The Grifter
ryan mcmenamin
1-Stryper
2-Spice Girls
3-Anal Cunt (it's a kind of love/hate relationship)
"Harvey Corman is gay!!"
hahaha
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Doc G*thzo
I must say behaviour on this thread has been rather sensible ... I have
not felt compelled to dust off the Music Gauntlet for anyone yet. At
least whoever knocked Xian Death was polite about it. OK, here's mine, in
order ...
This is not the moshpit. This is not the way.
1. John Farnham
2. Bette Midler
3. Celine Dion
4. Dannii Minogue
5. Boyz II Men
6. Green Day
7. Mariah Carey
8. Prodigy [1]
9. Hanson
10. Tina Arena
[1] Based largely on an extreme and often physically violent aversion to
one track. I have not heard that much of their stuff.
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Jack
Midnight Rambler wrote in message <34603C...@earthlink.net>...
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<snip>
>Your post has a 1 definate error and 1 possible error. These errors
>can mean a possible flame session and /or worse. If you continue on
>this path, you may earn target status by agsf. This is not a wise
>thing to do as agsf is more likely than not still operating in
>HK(Hunter Killer):Terminate Account with Prejudice mode.
a.g s-f doesn't involve itself in the petty stuff. Sorry.
>
>Your definate error was your posting handle. You posted using html/non
>standard ascii characters. This does irratate, anger, and annoy the
>general group. This also makes you effectively Chaos Control 2.
Was it in MIME? I'm fairly sure that it wasn't in HTML. A posting handle
doesn't have to be in alpha/num characters to be valid, just so long as
they're standard ascii.
>
>Your possible error is sounding like you enjoy country as your first
>music type. You then appear to state that country is the best music
>possible. This is alt.gothic not alt.country. If you are really into
>country that much, I strongly suggest you leave and never return to
>this newsgroup. It is certainly possible some persons/posters in this ng
>like country yet you will never "hear" much about country outside of a
>poll. This is considered correct as for obvious reasons. Again, I
>suggest
>you either keep quiet about you like of country in here except for polls
>or be prepared for all the not so nice consequances.
No, actually, there are well respected regulars here who would agree with
him. There *is* a fair amount of good dark material in the *old* country
& western genre, like Patsy Kline, Hank Williams Sr., etc. I don't
usually sit down and listen to it by choice either, but I can respect the
content. It's the contemporary, CMT type crap that I reserve *my*
loathing for, and I suspect that you'd get very little argument from
anybody on *that*.
>
>It is your choice. 1 thing you must do if you are going to post in
>this ng. You must stop immediately with the html/non standard ascii
>character use in handle. Failure to do so will result in undesired
>energy directed towards yourself.
Well, I just checked, the post was indeed in mime, however, is was mime
using standard characters. This does *not* warrant threatening someone
with complaints to their provider. A simple note explaining the problem
(and *why* it's a problem) and explaining how to change their Netscape
settings so that they don't do it anymore would have been more than
sufficient.
>
>If King Smack and or Lord Smack agrees with me, do expect a smacking
>shortly. You most certainly appear to be a clueless newbie.
Actually, no, they don't.
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AnArChY wrote in message <345fc57c...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
>On Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:48:57 -0600, "Jack" <thri...@rocketmail.com>
>wrote:
<snip>
>>Can't stand Green Day.
>
>*sniffle* leave them alone =( has anyone heard "Good Riddance"?
Hey, if I can like Joan Jett, then I suppose you're entitled to like Green
Day. <g>
Haydn Black
Jack wrote:
> >7) Aqua
>
> Never heard of 'em.
Jack, Jack, Jack,
You have MISSED out, MISSED the boat.
Imagine if you will 2 Unlimited (Real McCoy et al) with a truly bizarre
sencs of humour, A Nina-esque ditty called 'Barbie Girl' and a truly
spun out video clip.
It's so plastic it's great.
"I'm a barbie girl
"In my barbie world... yada yada yada."
I might buy the 7" one day.... (or, rather if it were available on 7".
I'm not paying $7 for this shit on CDS)
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Jack
Haydn Black wrote in message <3461671A.4E6E@no_vampyres.goth.org.au>...
<snip>
>Imagine if you will 2 Unlimited (Real McCoy et al) with a truly bizarre
>sencs of humour, A Nina-esque ditty called 'Barbie Girl' and a truly
>spun out video clip.
>
>It's so plastic it's great.
Oh, is that who they were? Actually, I think I caught that one time when
I was flipping channels. Actually, they were pretty cool. <g>
ren
I hate Hootie and the Blowfish.
I hate Blues Traveller.
I hate any song the radio stations play over and over and over again.
"How Bizzare"
"How Bizzare"
I hate radio.
I hate Country Music. I want to vomit everytime I pass the CMT channel and see
those 10 gallon hats and fake tits. These bitches wear more makeup than we do!
:P
Shadowchaser
AKICITA wrote:
> For me, it's simply because these bands represent the mainstream.
YES!! Quite exact!!
The very word mainstream makes me vo*it...
And there has always been so much LZ talking round me that the very word
makes me sick...
> They don't represent anything unique, subversive, or private
> among a cult of people like Bauhaus might.
RIGHT
> Hearing a testosterone-driven
> shaggy-haired man screaming about "woman! You need! Every inch of my
> love!" just don't ring creative for me.
>But it's like
> taking talented musicians and having them churn out cockrock musicthat
> sells billions but claims to be counterculture.
Heh, you said instead of me
Bon Jovi is just too
> plastic for me, ... I
> can't think oif one single idea he'a put out that's new.
I wonder if bon jovi is able to have ANY ideas...
Thoughtlessness is the reason mainstream sucks in all its fields.
>
> As for Manson, we hate him (not all goths, but most). Goth music may be
> spooky and sinister at times, but it also has a thread of beauty and
> artistry running through it.
> But manson can't survive as an
> industrial artist because his music's not that interesting, and he can't
> be goth because he has no sense of beauty or brokenheartedness.
================Shadowchaser================
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/5451/
============================================
Loki265l
>>3) Jazz that repeats the same 3 notes indefinitly
>variations) the basis of blues, jazz, rock n' roll, and punk? it may be
>the same three chords and/or notes but are used to make basic music.
>can anyone back me up on this? i think i ran with the train going
>elsewhere.
>
>
>jen
the same 3 notes or the same three chords? i've never heard of 3 note
jazz...nor 3 note anything but "mary had a little lamb"(actually there are 4
in that.)
much,but not all,jazz is based around a twelve bar format.unlike blues
however...jazz usually substitutes polychords...which are open-ended chords
which can be considered to be part of the I-IV-V scheme...so it's virtually
impossible for jazz to be considered repetitive in the sense of the same 3
chords being repeated over and over.
Loki...@aol.com
the Rapture website:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/4888/rapture.html
Brian Sheehan Miller
In <345EF8...@sanger.ac.uk> James Greenhalgh <j...@sanger.ac.uk>
writes:
>
>All generic rave/dance/house/jungle/(insert other identically sounding
>but differently named types here).
>
>I hate it.
Okay. I'm going to have do disagree here. To say all
rave/dance/house/jungle all sounds the same means that you just have
very little familiarity with the music. The different names for the
categories wouldn't exist if there was no difference. It would be like
saying,
"All gothic music sounds the same. Why are there different names
like darkwave and spookrock when it all sounds identical?"
You do qualify your post with 'generic', but even the differences
between, say, a generic jungle artist and a generic house artist are
_very_ obvious.
I don't care for any 'generic' electronic music. But I like good
electronic music an awful lot. And there's a lot of crap out there, but
that doesn't mean all the crap sounds identical.
I don't have any problem with you not liking the music, just with
saying it all sounds the same.
Brian Miller
Loki265l
>I must say behaviour on this thread has been rather sensible ... I have
>not felt compelled to dust off the Music Gauntlet for anyone yet.
well then...i know you were dying to hear my contribution...:-)
anyways...
>I must say behaviour on this thread has been rather sensible ... I have
>not felt compelled to dust off the Music Gauntlet for anyone yet.
well then...i know you were dying to hear my contribution...:-)
anyways...
this thread is too easy...if you had asked: " whom do you hate and why?"
then it may have been a challenge...so i'll do just that:
1. throbbing gristle/psychic tv- no matter how "influential" and
"original" mr. P. Orridge may be considered...he still recorded absolute noise
and duped us into buying it...i know digging them is the "cool" thing to
do...but..well....i don't.
2.nirvana-for bringing music "back to the people"....which amounts to taking
the music "away from the artists".
3.punk-for representing the death of artistic values.
4.techno-for having the audacity to define within itself
subgenres(jungle,trance,etc.) which still all sound the same.
5.rosetta stone-for being brash enough to sell out repeatedly,but too stupid
to choose a form of music where they could actually make money.(along with all
other clones)
6.marilyn manson-for being not just a metal band in disguise,but for being a
bad metal band in disguise.
is there anyone i haven't offended? as far as the hating of entire genres
...my ears are open if anyone has exceptions to the rule.
Stained
Haydn Black wrote:
> Imagine if you will 2 Unlimited (Real McCoy et al) with a truly bizarre
> sencs of humour, A Nina-esque ditty called 'Barbie Girl' and a truly
> spun out video clip.
>
> It's so plastic it's great.
I love this song. I know all the words (not a great feat, mind you, but
still...)
> "I'm a barbie girl
> "In my barbie world... yada yada yada."
"Life in plastic,
Is fantastic!"
Thanks to Lady B for introducing me to the best ditz-pop song since
Betty Boo. (Which I also love, BTW...)
> I might buy the 7" one day.... (or, rather if it were available on 7".
> I'm not paying $7 for this shit on CDS)
The rest of the album doesn't at all live up to "Barbie Girl". I'd be
willing to pay cold hard cash to the first person that delivers a 12"
into my grubby little hands, though.
Sheryl
(Who has a well-rounded collection of tampon-techno. Technotronic,
anyone?)
--
Shut up and swing, baby!
Convergence 4, Toronto, August 21 to 23, 1998
http://www.interlog.com/~converg4
Holly C.
AKICITA wrote:
>
> Who are they?
>
> Me:
>
> 1) Marylin Manson
> 2) Spice Girls
> 3) Hanson
> 4) Cranberries
> 5) Alanis "screech" Morisette
> 5) Snoop Doggie Dogg/any "bitches" and "ho's" rapper
> 8) Green Day/fake punk (give me SubHumAns ANY day!!!)
> 10 Hair Rock - Bon Jovi, Tesla, Whitesnake, Queensryche, Quiet Riot,
> Jackyl, Helloween, Van Halen, Motley Crue...You get the picture.
>
> Contributers to this thread will be read with interest, despite the
> ever-present risk of setting yourself up for a flame. Come on, don't be
> afraid--who do you hate?
OK, I'm delurking because this thread is just too interesting to resist!
(Although after posting my choices I may get my GothCard revoked before
I ever receive it!) LOL
My nominees for worst bands:
1. Rage Against the Machine
2. Matchbox 20 (can we say Night Ranger did this 10 years ago?)
3. Third Eye Blind (I will kill if I hear "Semi-Charmed Life" again)
4. No Doubt
5. Cake
6. New Order
7. Whoever does that "How Bizarre" song
8. Sugar Ray and 311 (Coming together in concert here in Dallas, ack!)
9. REM since '90
10. Severed Heads <ducking> My husband loves them and I can't stand
'em!
11. Front 242 (see above)
Axel
The Grifter wrote in message <63pft4$jrs$1...@campus1.mtu.edu>...
>>FIRST AND FOREMOST: BAD 80's music (not all 80's!) don't make me name
>>names! ok, if you insist! 99 red balloons
But Nena won the Eurovision song contest, if that's not a sign of quality I
don't know what is :)
And she didn't shave her armpits.
Axel
Hail Eris...
...All Hail Discordia
<axelmaya@SPAM_is_not_very_NICEglobalserve.net>
Tom Fosdick
Jamie Keane (che...@cetlink.net) did say:
: 6) Alien Sex Fiend
You've had a frontal lobotomy haven't you?
--
Tom Fosdick
Tom Fosdick
Jack (thri...@rocketmail.com) did say:
: >Your post has a 1 definate error and 1 possible error. These errors
: >can mean a possible flame session and /or worse. If you continue on
: >this path, you may earn target status by agsf. This is not a wise
: >thing to do as agsf is more likely than not still operating in
: >HK(Hunter Killer):Terminate Account with Prejudice mode.
<snort>
: a.g s-f doesn't involve itself in the petty stuff. Sorry.
I should bloody hope not.
: No, actually, there are well respected regulars here who would agree with
: him. There *is* a fair amount of good dark material in the *old* country
: & western genre, like Patsy Kline, Hank Williams Sr., etc. I don't
The stuff drives me up the wall, but I do agree that it does have _some_ dark
elements to _some_ of it. Reading the lyrics I find far more rewarding than
listening to it though.
: >It is your choice. 1 thing you must do if you are going to post in
: >this ng. You must stop immediately with the html/non standard ascii
: >character use in handle. Failure to do so will result in undesired
: >energy directed towards yourself.
: Well, I just checked, the post was indeed in mime, however, is was mime
: using standard characters.
Actually, it wasn't, well not by the time it got here to midnight it wasn't. It
does have a MIME-Version header, but the body is plain vanilla ASCII and I
don't know of any news readers that take the MIME-Version header as a cue to
use MIME s/w on the article.
Out of 2984 articles in the spool here, 1090 legitimate posts also have this
header (newsreaders include Agent, TIN1.3, WinVn and Turnpike)
The article here has no EASCII chars either.
: >If King Smack and or Lord Smack agrees with me, do expect a smacking
: >shortly. You most certainly appear to be a clueless newbie.
: Actually, no, they don't.
Well Jack and I definately don't, and I think you'll have a hard time finding
someone who does. Just hold your horses next time.
--
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<> tom@midnight <> oiiyctliyi <>
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http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/4748/
Doc G*thzo
Aha, look who's here ... This _is_ an unexpected surprise ;)
loki...@aol.com (Loki265l) wrote:
> this thread is too easy...if you had asked: " whom do you hate and why?"
> then it may have been a challenge...so i'll do just that:
Indeed, but I'm sure those on most people's lists need no explanation.
> 2.nirvana-for bringing music "back to the people"....which amounts to taking
> the music "away from the artists".
I despised them when they were alive. But now that I have seen how much
worse all their imitators are, I have come to passingly respect them and
even like about one of their songs. ("Heart Shaped Box" I think it's
called.) It wasn't their fault that grunge happened. It's not like they
knew what they were doing.
[..]
> 5.rosetta stone-for being brash enough to sell out repeatedly,but too stupid
> to choose a form of music where they could actually make money.(along with
> all other clones)
"Hiding in Waiting". Sellout? To whom? Clone? Of whom? I don't think so.
Dante - iN oZ
AKICITA wrote:
> Who are they?
>
> Me:
Putting yourself at the top of your own hate list!
> 1) Marylin Manson
I really enjoyed watching him get killed in Lost Highway :-)
> 2) Spice Girls
Can I make a Spice Rack from their bones after they're assassinated?
> 3) Hanson
They should make a law prohibiting children from gaining musical
recognition.
> 4) Cranberries
Perhaps the next car bomb in Ireland will set her voice box straight - she
gets damn annoying after about 5 seconds but a lot of the material (lyrics,
music) is reasonable.
> 5) Alanis "screech" Morisette
She's responsible for making me tone dead. The only thing that won't be
screeching will be my tyres if she steps infront of my car.
> 5) Snoop Doggie Dogg/any "bitches" and "ho's" rapper
Wiggida wiggida wha! Don't worry - most of them will be dead from crack
smoking within the next ten years.
> 6) Fake Alternative - bush, no doubt, hanson...
I'm sure they try hard... but fail miserably
> 7) Aqua
Hmm.. I wonder if they can sing underwater with their feet set in concrete?
> 8) Green Day/fake punk (give me SubHumAns ANY day!!!)
Yes - why the hell did that assassin get John Lennon when there are so many
other good targets out there????
> 9) new age stuff - John Tesh, etc. (except Tangerine Dream. I like them)
New age? Sounds like an oxyMORON to me!
> 10 Hair Rock - Bon Jovi, Tesla, Whitesnake, Queensryche, Quiet Riot,
> Jackyl, Helloween, Van Halen, Motley Crue...You get the picture.
Studies have shown that the more extravagent the glam-hair-rock-style a
person had, the greater chance of survival in nuclear fallout. That's why
there were so many bad hair styles during the cold war.
> Contributers to this thread will be read with interest, despite the
> ever-present risk of setting yourself up for a flame. Come on, don't be
> afraid--who do you hate?
Here's my additions to the list:
- Cliff Richard (I don't care if he's wired for sound he's just to........
nice....)
- Human Nature/BoyzIIMen/Savage Garden (again... they are just too... nice
and icky)
- The Fugees
- Mariah Carey, Janet Jackson and Celine Dion
- Kenny G
- Billy Joel and Elton John (esp. Elton John when I saw that Diana tribute
song was actually the B-side track of the single, thus everyone bought it,
and the A-Side track shot to number one even though it was TOTAL CRAP -
Keith Richards is right... the only thing he's good for is singing about
dead blondes)
Regards,
Dante - iN oZ
narf...@mindless.com
Remove brain before rapping.
Raphrat
> 3.punk-for representing the death of artistic values.
punk was NECESSARY at the time. deny me this, i DARE you.
> 4.techno-for having the audacity to define within itself
> subgenres(jungle,trance,etc.) which still all sound the same.
you're not listening close enough, but i see your logic.
> 5.rosetta stone-for being brash enough to sell out repeatedly,but too
stupid
> to choose a form of music where they could actually make money.(along
with all
> other clones)
Brent, don't make me bitchslap you again. tell me Switchblade
and Faith and the Muse are making legitimate money...
-The Raphrat
rap...@tyranny.com............http://theratsnest.res.cmu.edu
Ed-in-Chief HAVEN Magazine....if I weren't us I'd hate us too
PGH.NYC.industrial.goth.punk.artmajor.nihilist.wHATEver
writercriticpublicistcardcarryingCorporateRockWhore
Jamie Keane
Once upon a time (Wed, 05 Nov 1997 15:10:25 -0500 to be exact), Tetsab
<Tet...@ibm.net#ANTI-SP*M> (AKA Tetsab) penned:
>ren wrote:
>>
>> I hate radio.
>>
>
>Yup. That covers it all. :)
>
More or less! The only radio stations here either play uber-VH1 soft rock, that
canned pseudotechno crap, or McAlternative (311, Bush, Nirvana... blah). Though
I do admit one of the stations plays a ton of good 80's music (though they're
pompous and yuppie about everything... that said, the music rules).
Jamie, who's still trying to figure out why the hell he's up so late.
--
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James Greenhalgh
Brian Sheehan Miller wrote:
>
> In <345EF8...@sanger.ac.uk> James Greenhalgh <j...@sanger.ac.uk>
> writes:
> >
> >All generic rave/dance/house/jungle/(insert other identically sounding
> >but differently named types here).
> >
> >I hate it.
>
> Okay. I'm going to have do disagree here. To say all
> rave/dance/house/jungle all sounds the same means that you just have
> very little familiarity with the music. The different names for the
> categories wouldn't exist if there was no difference. It would be like
*thump thump thump thump* *wail* *thump thump* (repeat ad nauseum). I'm
sorry, but all the types/tracks I have heard (my little sister has a
huge collection, so I've unwillingly sampled lots) - are just so
repetitive as to annoy the fuck out of me. The mainstream dance/house
they seem to play continually on the radio is not much better. IMHO, of
course.
> You do qualify your post with 'generic', but even the differences
> between, say, a generic jungle artist and a generic house artist are
> _very_ obvious.
They still suffer from chronic reiteration.
> I don't have any problem with you not liking the music, just with
> saying it all sounds the same.
It just depends on your viewpoint. If you don't like a complete style
or set of styles of something, they do all sound the same.
james
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The Sanger Center, Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge. (Ext 4736)
j...@sanger.ac.uk
David Gerard
On Thu, 6 Nov 1997 00:34:11 +0000,
timmie <squir...@twisted.org.SpamThingy.uk> wrote:
:Tetsab <Tet...@ibm.net#ANTI-SP*M> wrote:
:> 13. Hole.
:Courtney Love is a goddess.... and i'm afraid the subject is not open
:for debate... you're wrong.... <tonguepoke>
Indeed. I have the 1997 Courtney Love calendar on my wall (it's pretty
mediocre actually, but there are some *lovely* shots I will be putting
up on my wall) and I'm seriously tempted to buy the 1998 one *now* at
*full price*.
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email and Usenet messages are not boycotted by the rest of the net, and
for ISPs to continue to block earthlink.net email and Usenet messages from
Earthlink, until earthlink.net *stop* the flow of junk email and spam.
For more information, see http://www.best.com/~dkeith/spamlink.htm
Mike Campbell
Christabel La Motte wrote:
>
> > No, actually, there are well respected regulars here who would agree with
> > him. There *is* a fair amount of good dark material in the *old* country
> > & western genre, like Patsy Kline, Hank Williams Sr., etc.
Hear hear! A lot of the earlier-style country music, as well as a newer
offshoot known as 'insurgent country' is incredibly dark in nature, and
well worth listening to...
> > It's the contemporary, CMT type crap that I reserve *my*
> > loathing for, and I suspect that you'd get very little argument from
> > anybody on *that*.
Again, Hear hear! Country has gone down the proverbial poop chute ever
since it joined rock/pop in relying on videos as it's predominant media.
The glut of so-called 'hat acts' (The country music equivalent of a hair
band,) as well as the continual self-congratulation of it's audience is
more than infuriating.
"I think I'll go home and listen to some country music, the music of
pain"
--Xander
Octavia
AKICITA <matthew.g....@ou.edu> writes: > Who are they?
>
> Me:
>
> 1) Marylin Manson
> 2) Spice Girls
> 3) Hanson
> 4) Cranberries
YEAH! (hmmm... maybe except for M.M... yes, shame, I do listen to him
on occasion, even though I hate his fans and he is rather silly... but
anyway... ahem...)
> 5) Alanis "screech" Morisette
WHAT THE FUCK is WRONG with this Alanis character. She's an ex-dance-pop
star MADE UP to be the "perfect" alternative womyn figure, YEAH RIGHT!!!
> 5) Snoop Doggie Dogg/any "bitches" and "ho's" rapper
> 6) Fake Alternative - bush, no doubt, hanson...
> 7) Aqua
> 8) Green Day/fake punk (give me SubHumAns ANY day!!!)
> 9) new age stuff - John Tesh, etc. (except Tangerine Dream. I like them)
> 10 Hair Rock - Bon Jovi, Tesla, Whitesnake, Queensryche, Quiet Riot,
> Jackyl, Helloween, Van Halen, Motley Crue...You get the picture.
>
Add R.E.M., INXS, Jewel and the all new U2 to this list, too.
Not that I absolutely detest these bands
'cause I really don't care to listen to them and will never be set in a
situation where I'll have to... unless I've turned to a cabbage on the
couch and have the remote control stuck on MuchMusic (music video channel
in Canada, folks). Then I'll just writhe around in anguish until the
video is over and the other painful video comes about.
But, as a Canadian, I am absolutely SICK, SICK, SICK to DEATH of this band:
The Tragically Hip.
I hate them. I really really can't stand them. And it's not like I can totally
get away from it because it seems like EVERY frikken person here listens to them.
That's all I have to say, but I'm sure there's more stuff I hate if I'm
reminded of them, which thankfully I'm often not.
Octavia
http://www.globalserve.net/~octavia
(I'm in pain, people)
Carolyn M Shearer
you all have obviously not heard of hardcore, noizecore, acidcore,
gabber...most of which (with the exception of happy hardcore..but, who
really gives a sh*t about that anyway)..is not ANYTHING like the
commericial "dance" you will come across in your typical dance
clubs...then you've got the various forms of drum and bass which are
beginning to sound very dark, industrial and even ambient like....the
label "TECHNO" is just as large as "ROCK-N-ROLL"...now, you goths wouldn't
want me saying, "yeah peter murphy stinks doo-doo cuz i've heard marilyn
manson and that type of music is too heavy and evil for me"...i've been
into techno now for 5 years and even i couldn't explain all the different
genres of it...
carolyn
On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, James Greenhalgh wrote:
> Brian Sheehan Miller wrote:
> >
> > In <345EF8...@sanger.ac.uk> James Greenhalgh <j...@sanger.ac.uk>
> > writes:
> > >
> > >All generic rave/dance/house/jungle/(insert other identically sounding
> > >but differently named types here).
> > >
> > >I hate it.
> >
> > Okay. I'm going to have do disagree here. To say all
> > rave/dance/house/jungle all sounds the same means that you just have
> > very little familiarity with the music. The different names for the
> > categories wouldn't exist if there was no difference. It would be like
>
> *thump thump thump thump* *wail* *thump thump* (repeat ad nauseum). I'm
> sorry, but all the types/tracks I have heard (my little sister has a
> huge collection, so I've unwillingly sampled lots) - are just so
> repetitive as to annoy the fuck out of me.
[snip]
James Greenhalgh
Carolyn M Shearer wrote:
>
> you all have obviously not heard of hardcore, noizecore, acidcore,
> gabber...most of which (with the exception of happy hardcore..but, who
> really gives a sh*t about that anyway)..is not ANYTHING like the
> commericial "dance" you will come across in your typical dance
> clubs...then you've got the various forms of drum and bass which are
> beginning to sound very dark, industrial and even ambient like....the
> label "TECHNO" is just as large as "ROCK-N-ROLL"...now, you goths wouldn't
You're missing my point - they all sound the same to me, it's just my
opinion, and you don't actually need to get defensive about it.
Brian Sheehan Miller
In <3461FD...@sanger.ac.uk> James Greenhalgh <j...@sanger.ac.uk>
writes:
>You're missing my point - they all sound the same to me, it's just my
>opinion, and you don't actually need to get defensive about it.
The point is that you probably haven't heard them all. What you
describe your sister as having (thump thump wail thump) seems like
euro-dance, artists like Real McCoy and Technotronic that all pretty
much have a two bar synth line and a female vocalist singing about
'rhythm', 'lovers', and 'night'. Which is why techno has all these
categorizations- so people can be clear on what they're talking about.
My guess would be that your sister does not have, say, Autechre, Roni
Size, or Atari Teenage Riot, who, while all having a decent amount of
recognition, are amazingly dissimilar and farther from generic dance
music than Yanni is.
Brian Miller
DnA Dvorkin
Go by this simple rule: Any band or singer identified by a one-syllable
name starting with "B" will either a) suck from the beginning, or b) start
out mildly interesting and then start sucking as soon as the hype starts.
a) Bush
b) Beck, Bjork
Two-syllable b-names tend to have a lot more staying power, of course, a
la Bauhaus and (stretching it a bit) the Banshees ...
--
Daniel Dvorkin
Loki265l
>punk was NECESSARY at the time. deny me this, i DARE you.
necessary for what?for facilitating a rebellion against disco,wank rock,and
corporate selling?
uh....hey buddy....have you looked at the state of music today? it didn't work.
we still have
disco(techno),we still have wank rock,and punk is now corporate as any. the
"noble" ideal
that punk was trying to acheive turned out to be just another selling point.
if i thought that
anyone associated with such things was in the slightest bit intelligent i would
have said it
was a fairly decent marketing strategy.any underground that punk created is now
officially
exploited.so punk "idols" are now left with the reality that they wrote a lot
of bad music which
led to more bad music which finally became the standard for "good"
music(according to
the industry).
the problem with humans is that they don't see beyond the span of time that
they live in.
this rock music thing is so small. in a hundred years or so when everyone
does get sick of it all and rock music ceases to exist all together will punk
matter? will goth?
the point i'm trying to make is that music is not a moral arena. music is an
ideal unto itself.
i believe if you ask any of those punk "gods" from the 70s what they were
trying to
accomplish, writing good music won't even come up. they deliberately wrote bad
music
and i just don't see the virtue of this.
>Brent, don't make me bitchslap you again. tell me Switchblade
>and Faith and the Muse are making legitimate money...
switchblade is out. i won't touch on them. but william is still a damn fine
songwriter not to mention the only true guitarist in goth. i believe you
missed my point:
> 5.rosetta stone-for being brash enough to sell out repeatedly,but too
stupid
> to choose a form of music where they could actually make money.(along
with all
> other clones)
faith and the muse have always cared about what they were writing.rosetta
hasn't.if you are going to treat your music as a vehicle to monetary gain and
not art...then at least be intelligent enough to actually gain....don't pick
some off the wall underground(sort of) music as your stage.
as to the bitchslapping...when did this happen originally? maybe you hit me
so hard i don't remember it.
brent douglas-vox,guitars,synths,woodwinds RAPTURE
(forever a musical snob and forever content to stay that way)
ka...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Stained (sta...@interlog.com) wrote:
: Haydn Black wrote:
: > Imagine if you will 2 Unlimited (Real McCoy et al) with a truly bizarre
: > sencs of humour, A Nina-esque ditty called 'Barbie Girl' and a truly
: > spun out video clip.
: >
: > It's so plastic it's great.
Uh-oh...
: I love this song. I know all the words (not a great feat, mind you, but
: still...)
: > "I'm a barbie girl
: > "In my barbie world... yada yada yada."
<shuddering>
: "Life in plastic,
: Is fantastic!"
<convulsing>
Turnitoff!Turnitoff!
Aaarrrgh!
: Thanks to Lady B for introducing me to the best ditz-pop song since
: Betty Boo. (Which I also love, BTW...)
That's a little better...
Sometime, I'll have to get the words for the parody verison a local
station did... Ugly Girl.
--
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In chaos, all is possible.
Axel
Octavia wrote in message <63sql3$eif$1...@titan.globalserve.net>...
>But, as a Canadian, I am absolutely SICK, SICK, SICK to DEATH of this band:
>
>The Tragically Hip.
>
>I hate them. I really really can't stand them. And it's not like I can
totally
>get away from it because it seems like EVERY frikken person here listens to
them.
Except for everybody I know.
I'm doing a very good job of not having a clue who they are, or what they
sound like :)
Axel
Loki265l wrote in message <19971106223...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>>Loki...@aol.com
>>> 3.punk-for representing the death of artistic values.
>Raphrat
>>punk was NECESSARY at the time. deny me this, i DARE you.
>
> necessary for what?for facilitating a rebellion against disco,wank
rock,and
> corporate selling?
>uh....hey buddy....have you looked at the state of music today? it didn't
work.
> we still have
>disco(techno),we still have wank rock,and punk is now corporate as any. the
> "noble" ideal
>that punk was trying to acheive turned out to be just another selling
point.
> if i thought that anyone associated with such things was in the slightest
bit >intelligent i would have said it was a fairly decent marketing strategy
You mean like John Lydon or Malcolm Maclaren (The Great Rock & Roll
Swindle)
>so punk "idols" are now left with the reality that they wrote a lot
> of bad music
Like London Calling, everything released by Siouxsie & the Banshees, Killing
Joke, Damned, Damned, Damned, Unknown Pleasures, Prayers on Fire...
A LOT of bad music.
>i believe if you ask any of those punk "gods" from the 70s what they were
> trying to accomplish, writing good music won't even come up. they
deliberately >wrote bad music and i just don't see the virtue of this.
I'm not sure who you mean by punk 'gods' or indeed by 'good' music, but the
Banshees, the Clash, the Dead Kennedy's etc. were trying to make music that
expressed how they felt & how they saw the world. I believe that that makes
for good music.
little o
In article <63sql3$eif$1...@titan.globalserve.net>,
Octavia <oct...@globalserve.net> wrote:
[snipples]
> Add R.E.M., INXS, Jewel and the all new U2 to this list, too.
Jewel. Okay, yeah, she's pretty in a way, I suppose. And yeah, she can
yodel, has a nice singing voice, and plays the guitar decently. However,
she comes from the Alanis Morissette school of lyric-writing. I mean,
she made a happy face w/ the eggs, for fuck's sake. That ranks right up
there w/ the brilliant and deep sentiment of "...and as the plane crashed
down, he thought, 'Well, isn't this nice.'"
Please. I don't ask much of today's youth. I don't.
little o
(contrary to popular belief, *not* everyone can write poetry... hehe)
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> If you hate all country i must assume that you must also hate the likes
> Patsy Cline!!! Please say it ain't so..she's gotta be one of the most
> depressing vocalists ever!! And what about Johnny Cash "the man in
> black" whom sings tunes smitten with death and despair..true country
> goth!!!
Country makes me sick. I had a girlfriend once who all she did was
listen to country (Imagine that... a goth/metalhead dating a country
girl. Appalling, isn't it?) So I've unfortunately heard alot of country
in my time... and can say without any doubt that I cannot stand it. I'll
give Johnny Cash SOME credit... some of his songs were alright,
especially the one about the devil and the fiddle (I forget the name
right now). But as far as ALL country's concerned as a whole... *puke*
> And then we have R&B..lemme see..ahh assume then that you must hate
> Sade..if so you have no passion..a true diva! Also remember that R&B
> includes the likes of Billy Holiday,Nina Simone and Elaa
> Fitzgerald...sureley your hate does not extend to such an extent...
Sureley it does!!!!! Pretty much all R&B is, is a bunch of guys whining
and crying about some girl who they're in love with... that and paying
tribute to some dead gangster rapper, who deserved every ounce of lead
pumped into his thick skull that he/they got...
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GraveEatr
ren wrote:
>
> Pariah wrote:
>
> >gothic music isn't my "first musical type". (it's trip-hopp actually) Am I
>
> > no longer welcome here?
>
> I welcome you here.
I second that!!!!!!!!
† GraveEatr †
Ankhasanamun
In article <34611A...@concentric.net>, "Holly C."
<hcas...@concentric.net> writes
hullo holly C. I've nothing whatsoever to say to you, so I'll just give
you a *hig* instead. Nice de-lurk :)
Anyway. Myne are
1) M.Manson.
2)Alfucinkanis fucking Morrisfuckingette. And no, I do not apologies for
the language, I'm sorry.
And that's *it* I hate my ears for the simple reason that, once I've had
a song played to me for enough times, I suddenly like it. You can
actually *make* me like a music, just by playing it over and over again.
Even crap like Aqua and The Spice Girls. I've given up even *trying* to
dislike music. There's just no point.
Even OASIS!!!!!!!!!
*pout*
Also, I resent that you don't like the cranberries, ppl :P
I have a very good friend who makes a living out of busking their music
:]
--
Algernon
<Lowri>
~~
And if I die today I'll be a happy phantom
~~~tori
DO NOT STAND IN OUR WAY!!! WE WILL WALK AROUND YOU!!!
-perkygoth rallying cry.
Ankhasanamun
In article <63q705$g...@nntp02.primenet.com>, Pariah
<lovc...@mail.hvs.com> writes
>
>>You then appear to state that country is the best music
~~~~~~
>>possible.
>
>where was this stated again?
tut tut.
(I'm sorry, it's just that *everybody's picking on the poor flamer. Who
didn't *really* have any right to be flaming... But still. Always run
with the underdog, say I)
;)
But that doesn't mean to say I don't like Pariah though. :)
Perfectly welcome. *Perfectly* *perfectly*
My favourite isn't goth either. It's Tori. I have *no* idea which
category she falls under. If there is one.
--
Algernon
<Lowri><Who finds taking sides is difficult.
And will endeavour never to do it again. Yeah. Hum.>
~~
she's been everybody elses girl, maybe one day she'll be her own
Ankhasanamun
In article <slrn662ihk....@califia.sub-rosa.com>, Christabel La
Motte <lam...@grendel.net> writes
>
>Anyone who's managed to miss me or {exile} or David Gerard or sundry
>other folks who've been around here longer than the average bear, chatting
>about old dark country, obviously can't have been paying all that much
>attention.
Sorry Miss, I promise I won't do it again ;)
--
Algernon
<Lowri> (Who never listens to anything. Sometimes.)
Ankhasanamun
In article <3461671A.4E6E@no_vampyres.goth.org.au>, Haydn Black
<haydn@no_vampyres.goth.org.au> writes
>2 Unlimited (Real McCoy et al) with a truly bizarre
>sencs of humour, A Nina-esque ditty called 'Barbie Girl' and a truly
>spun out video clip.
ick.
>
>It's so plastic it's great.
ick.
>
>"I'm a barbie girl
>"In my barbie world... yada yada yada."
And yet, what is worse....
I'm a barbie girl, in a barbie world, imagination, this is your
creation,you can brush my hair, undress me anywhere, life in plastic,
it's fantastic,
come on barbie, let's go party, oh oh oh yeah,
come on barbie, let's go party, ooohoooh.
Don't ask. No. do.
Well... It all began with a school production and the fact that I had to
look after the brats they called a "supporting cast" needless to say,
the oompa loompas are now an endangered bloody species....
--
Algernon
<Lowri>
~~
oh god could it be the weather
oh god why am I here
if love isn't forever
and its not the weather
hand me my leather
Christabel La Motte
In <3461C5...@execpc.com>,
Mike Campbell <tig...@execpc.com> wrote:
> Christabel La Motte wrote:
>
> > > No, actually, there are well respected regulars here who would agree with
Actually, I didn't write that (tho' I obviously agree with it.) The stuff
you quoted was by Jack, not moi. Please be a bit more careful with your
attributions, hmmmm? ;)
> Again, Hear hear! Country has gone down the proverbial poop chute ever
> since it joined rock/pop in relying on videos as it's predominant media.
Yet another reason to favor acts so old or obscure that they'll never
get played on teevee. *grin*
--
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Lynyrd Skynyrd.
With the exception of drivin n cryin, I can't stand Southern rock
exile
On the day Wed, 05 Nov 1997 21:07:21 -0700, ren hathe written,
}Pariah wrote:
}>gothic music isn't my "first musical type". (it's trip-hopp actually) Am I
}> no longer welcome here?
}I welcome you here.
Just don't listen to it while you're posting.
{exile}
--
What you give is what you get... {Paul Weller}
Don't fucking mail me.
Loki265l
>> of bad music
>
>Like London Calling, everything released by Siouxsie & the Banshees, Killing
>Joke, Damned, Damned, Damned, Unknown Pleasures, Prayers on Fire...
>A LOT of bad music.
>
>
you said it...not me...hehe...
> but the
>Banshees, the Clash, the Dead Kennedy's etc. were trying to make music that
>expressed how they felt & how they saw the world. I believe that that makes
>for good music.
that's all it takes?so do gangsta rappers.and as we all know...snoop doggy dogg
is such a songwriter.
lrra
AKICITA wrote:
>
> Who are they?
OOOOooooooohhhh...... i *like* this thread. its rather interesting. i
cant resist the urge to contribute
> 1) Marylin Manson
> 2) Spice Girls
> 3) Hanson
...obviously.... no comment on those.....
> 5) Snoop Doggie Dogg/any "bitches" and "ho's" rapper
i must say i like 2pac despite his horny side
6. popular stuff overplayed on the radio
7. R&B
8. mariah _S_carey
9. country
10. annoying whiny stuff (i.e. whitney houston, brandy, toni braxton)
11. most stuff that refers to love (mostly cleched, old, overplayed,
nothing original... ack.
12. sugar ray
13. anything that (mostly) girls at school obsess over and carry pics of
around (prodigy, bush, sugar ray(again), smashing pumpkins, etc.)
there's more i just cant remember any right now. im in a good mood... a
little dazed out.
-Lrra.
Doc G*thzo
loki...@aol.com (Loki265l) wrote:
> faith and the muse have always cared about what they were writing.rosetta
> hasn't.
Evidence?
If Rosetta really didn't care what they were writing they would be tossing
off album after album every year or two just to keep stock moving. They
would have rushed their conversion to a more industrial sound like many
others did instead of taking their time to do a credible job of it.
Seems to me you just like to insult Rosetta's intelligence because your
conception of music is too incomplete/pretentious to appreciate it.
(forever a music _listener_ snob and forever content to stay that way)
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Kelly H Watts
On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Stained wrote:
#Haydn Black wrote:
#
#> Imagine if you will 2 Unlimited (Real McCoy et al) with a truly bizarre
#> sencs of humour, A Nina-esque ditty called 'Barbie Girl' and a truly
#> spun out video clip.
#>
#> It's so plastic it's great.
#
#I love this song. I know all the words (not a great feat, mind you, but
#still...)
#
#> "I'm a barbie girl
#> "In my barbie world... yada yada yada."
#
#"Life in plastic,
#Is fantastic!"
#Thanks to Lady B for introducing me to the best ditz-pop song since
#Betty Boo. (Which I also love, BTW...)
#
#> I might buy the 7" one day.... (or, rather if it were available on 7".
#> I'm not paying $7 for this shit on CDS)
#
#The rest of the album doesn't at all live up to "Barbie Girl". I'd be
#willing to pay cold hard cash to the first person that delivers a 12"
#into my grubby little hands, though.
#
#Sheryl
#(Who has a well-rounded collection of tampon-techno. Technotronic,
#anyone?)
#--
# Shut up and swing, baby!
#
# Convergence 4, Toronto, August 21 to 23, 1998
# http://www.interlog.com/~converg4
#
#
Actually, the band has yanked the single to get people to buy the whole
album. Apparently, no one wanted to spend fifteen dollars on one song.
Kelly
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ka...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Axel (axelmaya@SPAM_is_not_very_NICEglobalserve.net) wrote:
: James Greenhalgh wrote in message <3461B8...@sanger.ac.uk>...
: >Brian Sheehan Miller wrote:
: >> I don't have any problem with you not liking the music, just with
: >> saying it all sounds the same.
: >
: >It just depends on your viewpoint. If you don't like a complete style
: >or set of styles of something, they do all sound the same.
: It isn't not liking a style that makes it all sound the same, its not
: listening to it that makes it sound the same.
If I don't like the style... I tend not to listen to it.
If I don't listen to it, music in a similar style will tend to sound the
same...
(Though, the truth is most of the music I hate is the stuff that sounds so
similar to others in it's style that you actually have to be a regular
listener to discern the differences.)
Course, sometimes I do have to hear it... doesn't mean I listen to it,
though.
Kaos.
Loki265l
>Evidence?
>Seems to me you just like to insult Rosetta's intelligence because your
>conception of music is too incomplete/pretentious to appreciate it.
evidence?
pretentious possibly. incomplete...not hardly.
faile
*>But, as a Canadian, I am absolutely SICK, SICK, SICK to DEATH of this band:
*>
*>The Tragically Hip.
*>
*>I hate them. I really really can't stand them. And it's not like I can
*totally
*>get away from it because it seems like EVERY frikken person here listens to
*them.
Ditto. And it's even worse in Kingston: their hometown. I can't stand
them, so everyone thinks I am some sort of freak or something. How ironic.
faile.
--
"We live as we dream: alone"
~Joseph Conrad
Tetsab
Octavia wrote:
>
> But, as a Canadian, I am absolutely SICK, SICK, SICK to DEATH of this band:
>
>
> I hate them. I really really can't stand them. And it's not like I can totally
> get away from it because it seems like EVERY frikken person here listens to them.
>
Sort of a me too! But anyway.
As this thread goes on I'm reminded more and more of bands I can't stand
I was reminded of 'the hip' yesterday when my sister was listening to
'The edge' and they were on, I cringed and then was rather sad that I'd
forgoten to add them.
So regardless you are not alone in Can-a-ta. I think they're one of the
worse band around and can't understand why anyone would like them.
Most replies I get are either 'they rock, you suck.' Or 'I don't know',
or 'I just do' Wow great thank you for your intelligent defence of your
IMO crappy band.
Which brings me to something else I can't stand, people who cannot
justify the music they like. Even if they just say 'it cheers me up' -
'I can appreciate the talent of the players' *anything* say *something*
to explain. Just not 'because it's cool', or 'because the band members
are "hot"'. *SNARL*
Tetsab.
>^..^<
(who has a Tragically Hip song in her head *sob*)
--
"I'm standing on the edge of a
dream, I look down and see nothing."
Please remove #anti-spam.
Karrin
On Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:20:18 -0800, jenocide <jsi...@value.net> wrote:
...::>I hate Snoop. Strangely enough, I actually kind of like some hardcore
...::>Gangsta Rap for some weird reason.
...::actually i was waiting for someone to speak up and actually admit to
...::liking rap. of course, i was always more old-school (leaders of the new
...::school, de la soul, del da funky homosapian, etc....).
I can't be the only one here that likes Coolio. *Smirk*
Puff Daddy should just up and die.
I don't really understand this Tool phenom.
But most of all, I'm absolutely ill of all the 'electronica' hype. That whole,
futuristic-age thing. Yecgh. It's over, already.
Karrin.
...and maybe you think i'm not listening as you scream and scream...
...but rest assured, I hear every word.
bruce h. nagel
On Fri, 07 Nov 1997 16:56:43 -0500, Tetsab <Tet...@ibm.net#ANTI-SP*M>
wrote:
>Most replies I get are either 'they rock, you suck.' Or 'I don't know',
>or 'I just do' Wow great thank you for your intelligent defence of your
>IMO crappy band.
>
>Which brings me to something else I can't stand, people who cannot
>justify the music they like. Even if they just say 'it cheers me up' -
>'I can appreciate the talent of the players' *anything* say *something*
>to explain. Just not 'because it's cool', or 'because the band members
>are "hot"'. *SNARL*
So:
1) Why do you like the music that you like, and
2) What if words don't work to explain it? I sure as hell can't
explain why I love certain pieces of artwork so much, they just *fit*.
Just because someone can't explain something to you doesn't mean there
are no reasons. Your opinion of others' musical tastes is, in fact,
irrelevant. I don't know why you think it matters, or why someone
should defend their tastes before you, or why you feel the need to
complain about it... It's not hurting you.
Jack
Tetsab wrote in message <34638...@news1.ibm.net>...
<snip>
>Tetsab.
>>^..^<
>(who has a Tragically Hip song in her head *sob*)
As I've said recently, there's a cure for that. The mildest is, put a
copy of "Turning Japanese" on the CD player and listen to it about a dozen
times.
If this fails, it's time to get more drastic. Try listening to "My
Sharona" by the Knack repeatedly.
If *this* fails, then (although I hate to even mention it) you can resort
to drastic measures. The "Facts of Life" theme. "Oh, you take the good,
you take the bad, and in between you have...The Facts of Life, the Facts
of Life." Etc. It's incredibly obnoxious, but effective.
ObGoth: Molly Ringwald was in the first season of that. She would have
made a neat goth. [1]
[1] Okay, so it wasn't a very good ObGoth.
--
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mail there to contact me.
Christabel La Motte
In <LNa805A9...@creunant.demon.co.uk>,
Ankhasanamun <Lo...@uk.demon> wrote:
> >Anyone who's managed to miss me or {exile} or David Gerard or sundry
> >other folks who've been around here longer than the average bear, chatting
> >about old dark country, obviously can't have been paying all that much
> >attention.
>
> Sorry Miss, I promise I won't do it again ;)
Well, at least you have an excuse, what with vanishing for months at a time
and all... ;)
(welcome back, btw)
Martin de Koning
On Wed, 05 Nov 1997 21:26:18 +0300, Shadowchaser <sca...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>AKICITA wrote:
>
>> For me, it's simply because these bands represent the mainstream.
>YES!! Quite exact!!
>The very word mainstream makes me vo*it...
>And there has always been so much LZ talking round me that the very word
>makes me sick...
What pisses me off the most.. is the people who like "alternative"
music because it's now trendy.. Their taste is governed by what is
cool, if pop was the thing again, they'd be rushing after that
instead..
The whole reason I like alternative music is because it's the last of
the music with creativity and soul.. Alternative bands are not burnt
with a love of money, they are out there because they want to be
themselves and express themselves..
The deeper you delve away from the mainstream, the better it gets I
think.. I live in Australia and right now I'm listening to an german
industrial band called Sielwolf.. I'm sure many are familiar with it
[grin]
mdk.
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Charlotte Ashley
> In article <63sql3$eif$1...@titan.globalserve.net>,
> Octavia <oct...@globalserve.net> wrote:
>
> [snipples]
>
>> Add R.E.M., INXS, Jewel and the all new U2 to this list, too.
Jewel can die a pussing death of welts and bile, BUT
I really don't mind INXS and old U2
and anybody be fuckin' *touching* REM well be able to see out their arse....
Leanan Sidhe, who likes rem, dammit. :)
--
http://www.interlog.com/~converg4
My personal webpage has now been gleefully deleted
Online time left in Leanan's life: 10 days
Charlotte Ashley
faile (4a...@qlink.queensu.ca) writes:
> *>But, as a Canadian, I am absolutely SICK, SICK, SICK to DEATH of this band:
> *>
> *>The Tragically Hip.
> *>
> *>I hate them. I really really can't stand them. And it's not like I can
Um.
I *like* the tragicaly hip....
*d*cks*
okay, okay, HERE. TAKE my gothcard....
Leanan Sidhe, who as a rule gives Canadian bands three times the chance
she'd give any others. The Hip, Spirit of the West, Moxy (*bounce*),
Barenaked Ladies, and many, many indy bands can be found in my
collection...I even lay off slagging Sloan....)
Leveathana
>From: bi...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Charlotte Ashley)
>Date: Sat, Nov 8, 1997 21:51 EST
>I *detest* *all* female singers.
I used to, too. I have a thing for Delores O'Riordan,
though..(Cranberries).. I love the Irish and their voices.
Absolutely swoonable.
>fiona apple
<vomit> I hate that little heroin bitch.
Carrie, who likes Forest for the Trees, with that sweet
redheaded guy. Mmm.
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Charlotte Ashley <bi...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
: *leanan glances at her cd player*
: The Last Dance is in the cd portion, Tom Waits is in the tape bit.
: *gets down on knees and lets tears well in her eyes*
: Pleeeeeease don't make me listen to Last Dance....I beg of you...
Hey, Tom Waits is more goth than The Last Dance any day of the fuckin'
week.
Greg
(who's got hair on his chest, but doesn't really look that good without a
shirt)
Greg Clow
Charlotte Ashley <bi...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
: I am *so* sick of these
: grrlpower winey little "modern women" singers spawned from toir amos and
: sinaed o'connor... neither of whom I mind, much.... jewel, fiona apple,
But there's an interview with Fiona Apple in the new Propaganda, so she
*must* be goth...
Greg
(who can't believe that he just admited in a public forum to looking at an
issue of Propaganda)
Ankhasanamun
In article <slrn667dhu....@califia.sub-rosa.com>, Christabel La
Motte <lam...@grendel.net> writes
>In <LNa805A9...@creunant.demon.co.uk>,
>Ankhasanamun <Lo...@uk.demon> wrote:
>
>> >Anyone who's managed to miss me or {exile} or David Gerard or sundry
>> >other folks who've been around here longer than the average bear, chatting
>> >about old dark country, obviously can't have been paying all that much
>> >attention.
>>
>> Sorry Miss, I promise I won't do it again ;)
>
>Well, at least you have an excuse, what with vanishing for months at a time
>and all... ;)
>
>(welcome back, btw)
>
I don't vanish, I merely make myself a lot less conspicuous ;)
....Well. Ok, I vanish...
--
Algernon
<Lowri>
~~
I can scream as loud as your last one but I can't claim innocence
~~~tori
DO NOT STAND IN OUR WAY!!! WE WILL WALK AROUND YOU!!!
-perkygoth rallying cry.
James Greenhalgh
Brian Sheehan Miller wrote:
> My guess would be that your sister does not have, say, Autechre, Roni
> Size, or Atari Teenage Riot, who, while all having a decent amount of
She has the first two. Roni Size is irritating.
--
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The Sanger Center, Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge. (Ext 4736)
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Morrigu198
ex...@tezcat.com (exile) wrote:
>}>}>gothic music isn't my "first musical type". (it's trip-hopp actually) Am
>}>}I welcome you here.
>}> Just don't listen to it while you're posting.
> I suppose it's alright just as long as that electronic rythymn doesn't
> make its way into your writing.
Hmm...trip hop has an electronic rhythm?? I take it you haven't heard much
then. For example, the better known trip hop acts Tricky and Portishead, both
sample (or play) organic drums, which are processed to sound as, well, organic
as possible. I guess the assumption comes from the way American media loves
to lump everything that happens to have a sample in it into the "electronic
music" catagory (im not even going to breathe the evil "E" word), hence, we
get the instant "oh...tricky was on that Amp show...techno shit!" from
everyone whose only introduction into that realm of music is 2 Unlimited or
maybe the Prodigy.
gotta love the media.
--Ben
NP:David Bowie:I'm Afraid Of Americans EP
exile
On the day 8 Nov 1997 13:07:00 -0700, Pariah hathe written,
}exile wrote in message <63uafq$an1$2...@tepe.tezcat.com>...
}>On the day Wed, 05 Nov 1997 21:07:21 -0700, ren hathe written,
}>}>gothic music isn't my "first musical type". (it's trip-hopp actually) Am
}>}> no longer welcome here?
}>}I welcome you here.
}> Just don't listen to it while you're posting.
}Too late.
I suppose it's alright just as long as that electronic rythymn doesn't
make its way into your writing.
Mike Campbell
Charlotte Ashley wrote:
>
I am *so* sick of these grrlpower winey little "modern women" singers
spawned from toir amos and sinaed o'connor... neither of whom I mind,
better than those A W F U L sucking singerslike whitney huston and
*pukes everywhere* Celine Dion...
Bravo! I added Jewel to my 'People I really wanna smack' list after i
read an interview with her in the local 'alternative newspaper'(Pronoune
those last two words "Whiney hippie rag")when she admited she was
suprised by her sucess. Her comment on the subject was 'I didn't know
sincerity was enough.' Yeah, she's right up there on the list, right
after Ursula K. LeGuin...
Mike Campbell (tig...@execpc.com)
(Who is having trouble getting the image of Hello Kitty dancing to the
long version of Sisters of Mercy's 'Temple of Love' out of his head...)
Charlotte Ashley
exile (ex...@tezcat.com) writes:
> On the day Wed, 05 Nov 1997 21:07:21 -0700, ren hathe written,
> }Pariah wrote:
>
> }>gothic music isn't my "first musical type". (it's trip-hopp actually) Am I
> }> no longer welcome here?
>
> }I welcome you here.
>
> Just don't listen to it while you're posting.
*leanan glances at her cd player*
The Last Dance is in the cd portion, Tom Waits is in the tape bit.
*gets down on knees and lets tears well in her eyes*
Pleeeeeease don't make me listen to Last Dance....I beg of you...
Leanan Sidhe (goth shmoth. The stuff sucks money ass....)
Pariah
exile wrote in message <63uafq$an1$2...@tepe.tezcat.com>...
>On the day Wed, 05 Nov 1997 21:07:21 -0700, ren hathe written,
>}Pariah wrote:
>
>}>gothic music isn't my "first musical type". (it's trip-hopp actually) Am
I
>}> no longer welcome here?
>
>}I welcome you here.
>
> Just don't listen to it while you're posting.
Too late.
"and with my hand on your head, does it mean that I aprove or do I
scream...because I want to"
You are www.primenet.com/~bkern
What you do ICQ: 879171
When it counts. Pariah
-The Masao
Charlotte Ashley
Bands I hate... eeerrm,
I *do* hate country, new country, that is, my apologies to rockin' country
goths. :)
I *do* hate dance music, that Dance Mix '9X type, with the possible
exception of the Barbie Song, which I danced gleefully to twice in a row
at halloween. :) Don't kill me.
I *do* hate the Band Of The Week, normally, just on the basis that they
are the Band Of The Week and I don't think they diserve to be so. Alanis
Morisette and Oasis are two of my *least* favorites there. :/
I *do* hate certain goth bands who's names I won't mention, because I have
a reason to live and I want to enjoy him^H^H^Hit.
I've always been opposed to AC/DC 'cause that guy's voise grates on my
nerves... but I don't mind other metalic bands.
All those old eighties bands with sweaty, ugly old men in leopard tights,
leaping around making anthem-ish songs. *d*cks* Van Halen *runs* I
throw Bon Jivi, Guns and Roses into this category....
I'm not a large fan of gansta' rap, though I'm not sure I *hate* it...
I have this itch in the head like I've missed one really obvious pet-peevy
band, but I can't think of it now. :)
Leanan Sidhe, who's tastes may not be very goth, but are most certainly
not mainstream.
Charlotte Ashley
Ack! How could I forget?
I *detest* *all* female singers.
Okay, that's a little extreme. But hell, I am *so* sick of these
grrlpower winey little "modern women" singers spawned from toir amos and
sinaed o'connor... neither of whom I mind, much.... jewel, fiona apple,
hally msnarland, alanis.... they aren't any better than those A W F U L
sucking singerslike whitney huston and *pukes everywhere* Celine Dion...
ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew
Um, but anyway....
Has anyone noticed that pop music is getting better in some genres though?
Okay, I think I've gone crazy. I mean, I can watch Much Music (MTV)
these days. A lot of the top song s I *actually* like... or can at least
tolerate. That new Green Day song is *actually* decent... sounds like the
Stray Cats, dammit. :) Smash Mouth are cool, Great Big Sea made the top
thirty again, that Barbie song is fun,
and anyone who's had me near music lately can attest to the fact that I
*adore* that effing Chumbawumba song. *grin*
Leanan Sidhe ("... you drink the whiskey drink, you drink the vodka drink,
you drink the lager drink, you drink the cider drink...."
Dmentia
Hmm, so many to name but so little time. A short list of my most-hated:
Korn
No Doubt
Live
Oasis
Spice Girls
Rush (oh how I hate them!)
Alanis Morrisette, Jewel, Fiona Apple...all that new girlie-folkie shit
The Grateful Dead (happy hippies suck)
Dmentia
^^ ^^ My email address has been altered to prevent spam.^^
Fairieglo
Ack! How could I forget?
I *detest* *all* female singers.
wow...almost all of my favorite music is female vocalists...
Pariah
exile wrote in message <642qt2$m2$3...@tepe.tezcat.com>...
> I suppose it's alright just as long as that electronic rythymn doesn't
> make its way into your writing.
I was trying to come up with some way to write with an electronic rhythm,
but I'm drawing a blank...
exile
On the day 8 Nov 1997 23:24:52 GMT, Morrigu198 hathe written,
}ex...@tezcat.com (exile) wrote:
}>}>}>gothic music isn't my "first musical type". (it's trip-hopp actually) Am
}>}>}I welcome you here.
}>}> Just don't listen to it while you're posting.
}>}Too late.
}> make its way into your writing.
} Hmm...trip hop has an electronic rhythm?? I take it you haven't heard much
Ummm... this was a joke but... seeing as I can use all of the education I
can get...
} then. For example, the better known trip hop acts Tricky and Portishead, both
} sample (or play) organic drums, which are processed to sound as, well, organic
These are not electronically sequenced?
} as possible. I guess the assumption comes from the way American media loves
} to lump everything that happens to have a sample in it into the "electronic
} music" catagory (im not even going to breathe the evil "E" word), hence, we
} get the instant "oh...tricky was on that Amp show...techno shit!" from
} everyone whose only introduction into that realm of music is 2 Unlimited or
} maybe the Prodigy.
It's actually me that's lumping everything into a sort of rave techno
category.
What are you saying the differences are?
{exile}
}gotta love the media.
{You mean... other folks opinions?}
exile
On the day 9 Nov 1997 11:54:00 -0700, Pariah hathe written,
}exile wrote in message <642qt2$m2$3...@tepe.tezcat.com>...
}> I suppose it's alright just as long as that electronic rythymn doesn't
}> make its way into your writing.
}I was trying to come up with some way to write with an electronic rhythm,
}but I'm drawing a blank...
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shoot them dead
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we are the best
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{exile}
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zoe
Fiona Apple annoys the hell out of me. So does Prodigy and pretty much
all bands played on the radio here, all 5 of them. Variety, people!
Spice of life, remember?
How about something new? How about universities you hate? I hate the
UofA who had homecoming last night and f*cked up all the streets. Turn
lanes disappeared and then reappeared where they had no business being.
Took twice as long to get anywhere.
Rant? Yes. But Mel and I eventually made it to Bentley's to get her cigs
she'd left and our friends felt sorry and gave us free coffee.
Zoe